This past weekend, the big news story was that the owner of the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, VA, Stephanie Wilkinson, had asked Whitehouse Press Secretary Sarah Sanders to leave her establishment because her boss is “inhumane and unethical.”
To which Mrs. Sanders politely replied, “That’s fine, I’ll go.”
According to Washington Post reporter Avi Selk, who spoke with Wilkinson:
Sanders went back to the table, picked up her things and walked out. The others at her table had been welcome to stay, Wilkinson said. But they didn’t, so the servers cleared away the cheese plates and glasses.
Apparently, Sanders was the last in her party of eight to arrive at the restaurant that evening, and upon recognizing her, some of the employees had a little hissy fit.
The reason, according to the Post:
Several Red Hen employees are gay, she [Wilkinson] said. They knew Sanders had defended Trump’s desire to bar transgender people from the military.
It wasn’t immediately clear if Wilkinson’s husband and son (see photo below) were among the employees in question, but that’s beside the point.
What really matters, at least insofar as this post in concerned, is how the predictably bad behavior of a morally bankrupt liberal compares to the actions of certain self-proclaimed defenders of Catholic tradition.
In a matter of days, the inaugural edition of The Catholic Inquisitor will be rolling off the presses. Over the long journey leading up to this point, I’ve encountered a few bumps in the road; some foreseeable enough, but others of a sort that I never would have expected.
There is an underbelly to the world of “traditional” Catholic media, the narrative of which is largely controlled by a relative few who, apparently, will stop at very little to protect their stronghold.
Brace yourself, folks, this story ain’t pretty.
It concerns at least two traditional Catholic writers, each an expert in their chosen field, who were pleased to accept my invitation to contribute articles to The Catholic Inquisitor beginning with the July 2018 issue.
One of these gentlemen had already submitted his article to me for publication. About a week after doing so, however, Michael Matt apparently got wind of it.
Having had a number of his articles published in the Remnant in the past, this writer thought he had a sincerely good relationship with Matt. That was all about to change.
Michael got in touch with our would-be contributor to say that he and others in the traditional Catholic media world (their identity should be obvious enough) found news of his association with the Inquisitor offensive. So much so, Matt informed him, that unless he disassociate from the Inquisitor, his days of collaborating with the Remnant are over.
Why? Well, because according to Michael Matt, he has been “personally attacked” by yours truly.
Now, we can debate to what extent that’s truly the case, or whether that’s even Matt’s real motive, but the bottom line is that his claim has nothing whatsoever to do with the Faith or defending tradition. By his own words, it’s strictly personal.
Though I am loathe to take up my time and yours doing so, I can make a good case – no, a far better case – for having been personally attacked as well. The bigger difference here is that I couldn’t possibly care less. This isn’t grade school. We’re supposed to be focused on a bigger mission.
Even so, Mr. Matt wasn’t finished leveraging his influence just yet.
The other writer that I mentioned is a man who prides himself on getting along with everyone in traditional Catholic circles; in spite of certain disagreements. He’s an extremely knowledgeable writer and speaker who desires nothing more than to edify Catholics wherever he may reach them; working with a broad cross section of apostolates.
I am certain that readers of the Inquisitor would have benefited greatly from his insights, but for now, that’s not going to happen.
Knowing very well that this gentleman wants to avoid exactly the sort of thing that I just described, I felt obligated to let him know what had happened so he could determine for himself how to proceed. He’s known Michael for some time and seemed taken by surprise by what I told him.
So, he picked up the phone and asked Matt directly if contributing to the Inquisitor would jeopardize his relationship with him and the Remnant moving forward.
If we can say nothing else positive, Michael Matt shows no favorites. He let this gentleman know as well that if he should choose to associate with the Inquisitor there would be no future collaboration between them.
Now, I don’t look down on either of these writers for backing down – they are my friends – but if it were me on the other end of Michael Matt’s bullying, I’d let him know exactly what he can do with his newspaper, and even offer to help him get the job done. Not everyone is like me in that regard and I will grant that perhaps the world is a better place as a result.
In any case, think for a moment about what these writers are being threatened with losing. It’s far more than just space in the pages of one publication; it’s really about being consigned to the fringes of the traditional Catholic media world in general.
In addition to publishing the Remnant, Michael Matt is one of the chief organizers of the Catholic Identity Conference. His right hand man of many years, Christopher Ferrara, has close ties with the Fatima Center – publisher of Catholic Family News and organizer of numerous traditional Catholic conferences of their own throughout the year.
Like it or not, folks, these men and their tightly knit network enjoy a practical monopoly on traditional Catholic media. Get on their bad side for whatever reason, and you’ll earn a place on the blacklist.
None of us – including both Michael and Chris – do what we do for either fame or fortune. Even so, all of us have families to care for and bills to pay, and God gave each of us certain gifts that allow us, not only to build up the Kingdom of Christ on earth, but to uphold our temporal obligations in the process.
Strong arming these two writers as Michael Matt has is like a grocer threatening to fire an employee for daring to take a part-time job at a store across town because the owner may have insulted him. I think we all realize that this sort of intimidation is just plain immoral.
To be clear: If Michael Matt is unwilling to publish me in the Remnant, or invite me to his conferences, fine. He has no right to do what he is doing to these Catholic writers. They are men of good will who have done absolutely nothing to invite this mistreatment.
All of this being said, if you sense that something more is going on here, you’re not alone.
There’s a reason you haven’t seen articles from Cornelia Ferreira and Peter Chojnowski in hard copy for quite some time now. It’s the same reason these one-time fixtures at traditional Catholic conferences are no longer invited to speak.
And guess what, folks – it has nothing whatsoever to do with “personal attacks.”
PLEASE NOTE: I heard via email from Brian McCall, the newly appointed Editor-in-Chief of CFN. He was contacted by a few of our would-be writers, and unlike Michael Matt, he assured them that simply having an article published in the Inquisitor would not render them banned from CFN.
Brian is a gentleman of the first order and I trust in what he said. Let us hope that those for whom he works agree with him on this point. That, however, remains to be seen.
My response to Brian was to say that I strongly believe that those of us who have a voice in so-called “traditional” Catholic media have a very serious obligation to avoid in any way misleading the naive about what is, and what is not, compatible with tradition. If we ever get to the point where the traditionalists “old boys club” doesn’t dare criticize its own when warranted, then we’re no better than the neo-cons who labor to build their own little empire at the expense of Christ’s Kingdom and the salvation of souls.
As such, I let Brian know that if any traditional apostolate or person publishes something questionable or that otherwise may lead one into error on an important point concerning the Faith, I intend to address it head-on. To ignore such a thing would be irresponsible; especially if the source is widely trusted, and I would expect, and welcome, the same from him and anyone else in traditional media if and when I might err.
I also want to let you know that I spoke with James Vogel, Editor at Angelus Press and organizer of the Angelus Press Conference for the Society of St. Pius X.
Jim Vogel is another gentleman of the first order, and even though we don’t see eye to eye on some important matters, he’s a valued friend. (Hey, it’s entirely possible!) He, like Brian, has no intention of severing ties with those who contribute to the Inquisitor.
Look, it’s no secret that I’ve had my disagreements with Michael Matt and Chris Ferrara in the past. As a review of my posts indicate, however, I do at least try to make it a point to engage other people’s thoughts and ideas and not the people themselves; not their deeper motives and not the interior disposition of their soul.
Have I always done so perfectly? Absolutely not. I can do better.
If you’re wondering where the personal nature of this dust-up began; it started the day that Matt decided to condemn me on social media for an article that I wrote about Antonin Scalia in February 2016; even going so far as to compare me to Fr. Paul Nicholson, who denigrated the memory of Fr. Nicholas Gruner following his death.
Readers can follow the links and determine for themselves if that comparison has merit.
Insofar as Mr. Ferrara is concerned, his animus came to light in May of 2017 when I invited him to join me in calling on Cardinal Burke to issue an apology to Fr. Gruner (one that I still insist is long overdue) in light of his Roman Life Forum presentation. That resulted in Chris accusing me (to his credit, only privately at this point) of simply wishing to “score points” and to “humiliate” Burke.
Last September, Ferrara went public, launching his own invective-laced assault on my character; using his Fatima Perspectives column to accuse me of seeking nothing more glorious in my writing than web traffic and attention. Go ahead, click the hyperlinks above if you wish, and decide for yourself if those accusations have merit.
As noted, this isn’t grade school; i.e., that’s not what really matters.
That is why, just two months later, I didn’t hesitate to come to Ferrara’s defense following his debate with Kevin Symonds at last fall’s Angelus Conference (HERE), and as recently as last month, I positively cited one of his Remnant articles in a post (HERE).
The point is, there is no room for competition here. Our work is not for our own glory.
What’s more, regardless of any personal attacks that have come my way, I would never even think to tell a writer that he or she must sever ties with the Remnant, or any other traditional Catholic apostolate, in order to contribute to the Inquisitor. The very idea is reprehensible.
Even Stephanie Wilkinson – the lunatic liberal restaurateur – was willing to continue serving Sarah Sanders’ party without demanding that they first renounce their relationship with her. It’s a sad day indeed when a rabid feminist can be outdone in heavy-handed intolerance by the publisher of “America’s oldest…” (you know the rest).
I reached out to Michael Matt directly last Wednesday; offering him an opportunity to explain himself. He has yet to respond.
In conclusion, while some readers may fault me for revealing the underbelly of traditional Catholic media, the facts are the facts, and closing one’s eyes to them won’t make the situation any prettier.
As for what will, I don’t really know for certain, but I do know that all of us (including me) are obligated to pray for our detractors and welcome any opportunity for reconciliation that may present itself.
I am all-in on both counts.
Such a shame to witness during the last few years the increasing diabolical disorientation of these formerly bright stars in the truly Catholic firmament. As they’ve slid towards CatholiCuckery, their lust for mainstream respectbility has thereby been increasingly stoked.
Sadly, Catholic Family News isn’t immune from CatholiCuckery, as proven by their having purged the following essay from their site:
“Tactics of the Homosexual Movement,” by John Vennari
Multiple emails to CFN about this have gone unanswered.
Like avowed liberals, CatholiCucks frequently and shamelessly flush material and people down the memory hole.
Michael Matt is a bully. Ann Barnhardt wrote the absolutely most inane article for the Remnant one time and in it she tells of how she lived with a male roommate during College. She doesn’t say, it was a youthful error in judgement but instead that it was totally fine because it was platonic. One gentleman, made a very mild comment in the comment section that it is not good for males and females that aren’t married to cohabitate. That’s basic Church teaching. I’m pretty sure it’s still even New Order teaching. He was very matter of fact and was not cruel or condescending in anyway. He was subject to the most unreasonable and hostile attack by the moderator, I’m assuming Mr. Matt since the buck stops w/him. I’ve never been back to that site again, it was disgusting.
I looked up this article after my above comment to see what exactly was said to that poor commenter and it’s funny there are 0 comments now. Is that normally the way news sites operate, by removing all the comments from a past article? I’ve never encountered that before. https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2339-diabolical-narcissism-go-clean-up-the-kitchen-you-stupid-stupid-woman
Down the memory hole.
And yet Mr. Matt is the first to repeatedly warn us all about avoiding the circular firing squad we trads continually find ourselves in…
He should take his own advice.
In that context I believe he was talking about Cardinal Burke, saying something like, “sure we don’t all agree 100% with what Burke is saying/doing, but what other choice do we have? We have to work together!” Ditto for Donald Trump – Sure he’s not the ideal man, but what else have we got?
Okay… I can understand that…
But apparently Louie Verrichio and a few other Catholic writers are expendable?
So Mr. Matt only finds the need to compromise and make nice with those who hold influence or power?
But if you’re beneath him or hold no public influence greater than what Michael Matt has, then there’s no necessity to get along or work with you?!
It’s one thing to fire a writer if, for example, elsewhere he/she holds non-catholic views and writes pro-sodomy articles for some LGBT rag on teh side. Because that contradicts the ethics of everything your paper stands for.
But what’s the spat with Louie?
For rightly pointing out that Scalia compromised his Catholic Principles to hold the office of a judge in the U.S. and make rulings at odds with the faith in favour of the constitution? It’s not as though Louie condemned Scalia to Hell, Louie was simply rightly pointing out an error in Scalia’s thinking that we need to be aware of and not gloss over.
Or for pointing out that Burke slandered Fr. Gruner and misinterprets Fatima? Well he does! Burke is also not favourable to the SSPX, and no doubt that doesn’t sit well with Michael Matt. But why does Matt go out of his way to criticize Voris, who likely listens to Burke about the SSPX, yet not be critical with Burke over that affair? For good working relations? Because Burke attracts a following and Matt needs Burke to attend his conferences?
Isn’t that akin to the same way the Catholic Church under Vatican II compromises to work for ‘the greater good’ with non-Catholics, secularists, communists, leftists etc.??? The same sort of thing Matt criticizes??? Yet Matt criticizes Louie for pointing this out with regards to Scalia and Burke as part and parcel of the whole aggiornamento mentality? And Matt can’t see the forest for the trees?
All this tells me is that Matt, like Michael Voris, apparently needs to placate certain interests to keep his operation going. And thus like the leftists they criticize a certain ostpolitik / Trad political correctness is in order. Voris won’t criticize the Pope, and will even pencil-spin a vortex of subterfuge to make Francis look like a misled naive saint. And Matt will not criticize Burke because he needs someone out there with a clerical rank high enough to do some good. Nor Scalia, least the discomfort of dealing with Americanism and compromise make voting Republican more difficult, because we need the Republicans to do some good.
If Matt needs to compromise for some pragmatism, I have no problem. But that needs to go both ways here. Louie is correct and Matt knows it. He just doesn’t want Louie’s correctness to put a boulder in the path of Burke’s papability, or Trump’s re-election. The capital-T Truth might confuse the poor folks out there. But the point is that at the end of the day, Matt has to admit that Catholics are held hostage by the heretical American constitution and government as well as by Americanist heretics in the clergy, and we need to make the best of the situation or else it all goes to flames.
Louie on the other hand has faith in the Truth, and in God and in divine action to solve our issues through Our Lady of Fatima. Not in the plans of princes and men.
This is what is actually being put to the test.
Do we have faith in God?
Or are we going to have faith in the political process? Whether with regards to the State or the compromised Church hierarchy who are increasingly no different than state actors and politicians?
Who is going to turn out correct?
My bet’s on Louie.
Scalia is an idol of cuckservatives; thus he’s also an idol of CatholiCucks.
It is sad to see that many who believe they are catholic and like to see ‘traditional’ in their description objectively speaking allow the devil into their decision making. It is a privilege to further Catholic teaching through the press but an obligation to also follow Christ’s Teachings in all they do. We should pray that they have eradicated the devil out of their life in case their judgement time suddenly occurs.
Maybe they are all taking their cues from CMtv. People post and then it is removed by the Moderators. But not as fast as readers who get a chance to post back……so when the comment is gone the combox is a mish mosh of disjointed replies to a person whose comment has vanished.
The Remnant is not of God. They lie. I have had many post “detected as spam” this last year or so. The real reason is of course they will not post any comments that disagrees with their post v2 narrative. Its their website and they have no obligation to post my comments, but why the lie? Why not just say “comment deleted by moderator per editorial policy” or some such statement. It is a deceitful practice of theirs to stifle debate. At least Skojec gave me a few warnings before banning me.
Scalia = Opus Dei ,so maybe that’s the love fest?
Skojak = convert, then Regnum Christi Legion joiner, then ?
As I always asked , isn’t anyone just Catholic anymore?
……and in saying that I include those sedes etc. who have taken a stand because they cannot find a parish that is Catholic anymore. The Vatican sure isn’t it.
While I have everyone’s attention, I have 2 serious prayer requests:
1. Please pray for the health and recovery of Mr. Rick Delano, who is currently hospitalized with a serious heart condition and even given the last rites. He is the producer of the documentary film ‘The Principle’ and the upcoming ‘The End of Quantum Reality.’ Mr. Delano has been INSTRUMENTAL in bringing to light scientific issues that have VINDICATED the Catholic Church and the Papacy, as well as currently working on making known a truly Catholic framework for physics as a whole from the work of Dr. Wolfgang Smith. Those not familiar with what is going on have NO IDEA HOW INCREDIBLE this will be for the entire world when it comes to re-framing our thinking about reality to be more in line with the existence of God and forever destroying the nonsense that reality is determined from the bottom-up; alongside the distinction of the separation between the corporeal world and the potential world and its implications for even spiritual matters! Losing him would be a MONSTROUS loss for the Church in our time when it comes to re-establishing its credibility in a time when many reject the distinction of simple things like male and female anatomy. Please PRAY FOR HIS RECOVERY! Or if God so wills that he must depart, then pray for his soul!
2. Another request, on behalf of a certain priest I know from the U.S. who is currently in danger of losing his faculties and possibly having to seek incardination elsewhere, but this might be made difficult due to a rumour mill spinning against him. Seems that he stood up for some things he observed were not right, and this has put him at odds with many people and even his bishop, and thus he has been threatened with this disciplinary action. The details of this are not shareable, but please pray for him and for a just end to this affair. Also, given that he is a Novus Ordo priest, that he be brought to the Traditional rite and Traditional faith as I’ve been trying to make him open to it. (And yes, I am aware several of you would prefer he just leave the ‘N.O. Church’ altogether, invalid ordination etc. etc. okay… but anyway, please pray that what is right and just be granted to him.)
Thank you to all who respond. God bless you.
With heartbreak I have witnessed converts who joined the Legion cult in order to further their career. After the public was made aware of the Legion’s underhanded lies geed and perversions like that of their Founder , some of the same people jumped headlong into Opus Dei, Why? Because they get backing and support and they are made to feel they are special Catholics who are better than the rest of us with secret society knowledge , better priests and spiritual directors and retreats ,all to guarantee they will be Sainted like the founder , Escrtiba.
A whole clip was emptied on MSgr Patrick Perez after one of his talks at a Fatima Conference. His talk didn’t jive with their narrative, kind of like LV takes. That whole situation is worth investigating and an article. He was tight with Fr. Gruner and pushed out by one of the aforementioned folks in this article. Very sad, stupid and bizarre.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
The Remnant’s slide into CatholiCuckery really accelerated when The Remnant Moderator was installed. As a cuckservative and thus a perpetually virtue-signaling, pathologically altruistic white ethnomasochist desperate to be eternally and publicly gang raped by Paco, Jamal, Abdul, Wong, and Schlomowitz as the ultimate form of virtue-signaling, this hysterically muliebral moderator is especially prone to getting his panties in a twist whenever even a hint of race realism is injected into the comment section. Thus I was booted after questioning why The Remnant seems to be just fine with Minnesota becoming a stinking Somalian colony.
I’ve had good dealings with Msgr. Perez. I like those willing to speak the unvarnished truth without any considerations of mainstream respectability.
AdolphusJr and Sweep, dancing on the grave of a good Catholic man. No surprise there.
I have a mom and dad still alive (Im 48), four brothers and a sister, ten children, and a wife. With that being said I can count on one hand, and have some fingers left over, who are my true friends in this world. Stay the course my friend. The harder you stand for what is right the more you will be persecuted and ostracized. Michael Matt (whose paper my own dad contributed to for DECADES) and his slick haircut and slick suits means little to actual Catholics. Matt is a joke.
All one needs to do is look at a man like our great St. Francis of Assisi, and compare him to a guy like Matt. St Francis was of Heaven, Matt is of the world. I have a huge problem with guys who are “about the bucks”. We werent put here on this earth to get rich.
Michael Matt is a small-time hack with a small-town mind acting like a small-time thug.
It’s all about “protecting the brand”, and his website says so explicitly.
He’s lost the plot these last few years and has become shrill, rather aggressive with an IP5-like inability to hear criticism of any kind.
“Shrill” is an apt word. He’s become quite a whiner. Indeed, whenever I hear his voice in my mind now, it’s in the tone of a whine. Alas, even those presenting themselves as actual (“traditional”) Catholics now sound ever more like conciliar castrati.
It won’t suprise me if, like the pitiful Blunderpuss the Bugman, Michael Matt soon starts incessantly whining about how we need to start embracing stinking sodomites and perfidious Jews while going butts up for the horrific reign of Paco, Jamal, Abdul, Wong, and Shekelsteinowitz.
The dividing line in the trad wing is sedevacantism. If bergolio and the conciliar popes were/are Popes then we need to assent to their teachings. If not Popes, then we are to have nothing to do with their lies. Michael Matt and the R&R crowd advocate disobedience to legitimate authority based on their own conscience. So did Luther. He is trying to put square pegs in round holes and at some point it will take deception to convince others that it fits together.
Upon the death of John Vennari (RIP), Michael Matt became the “go-to-man” for Tradition in the media. When I first came to re-discovering the Catholic Church of my youth (via the SSPX), I was so grateful to both men for their defense of the True Catholic Church and felt very safe knowing they were in our corner, so to speak. I don’t regret for one moment supporting their newspapers, attending their conferences, and promoting their hard work. Lately, I’ve been discouraged with Michael Matt’s view of Cardinal Burke as being the warrior who will fight the enemy within. I view Cardinal Burke as a Vatican 2 supporter in spite of his so-called “traditional” leanings. His statement regarding attending the TLM Mass at SSPX chapels sent me over the edge. Attending a bad N.O. “mess” is better than attending a TLM celebrated by an SSPX priest?? If that doesn’t show his true colors that I don’t know what does. Matt didn’t agree with Burke, but he forgave him because he is a work in progress. Putting your hopes on a work in progress is very weak. Louie, when can we expect your newspaper in our mailboxes? I am so looking forward to this new publication.
Was St. Athanasius a sede?
Scalia put his obligation to his position above his obligation to God. Thats why a true Catholic cannot possibly be a judge/lawyer in these United States. Total conflict of interests. The US is NOT Catholic.
Well done, Louie. You have my support 100%. Too bad Mr. Matt is choosing an unchristian way of handling differences of opinion. You, on the other hand are doing what we, your readers, would expect of you.
Was his pope a formal heretic?
I think that most of us who post here were booted from “The Remnant”. Im pretty sure that its been about 2 years since I was banned.
It would parallel our current situation.
I would argue that sedevacantism is the real issue behind the OP. Since Louie believes that Bergoglio is not a true pope he is now an outcast among the other trad writers. Their motto (along with the other dogmatic anti-sedes) is “Thou shalt not fraternize with those sedes”.
ANYONE who requests prayers is automatically on my list !
I never take prayer requests lightly.
Note to readers: Blunderass is no longer with us; not for being disagreeable, but for having nothing whatsoever of value to add to the conversation. My apologies for not exterminating the vermin sooner. I’ve been a little preoccupied. Carry on.
It is so difficult to know how to handle these matters. If you say nothing, that doesn’t seem right, and if you say something, you’re embarrassed because it all sounds so juvenile. I work in education, and I can tell you, grownups do exactly what children do, same kind of stuff, the isolating, the silent treatment, vendettas, it’s kind of shocking. And we aren’t even fighting for “printing rights” or whatever else is making folks nervous.
I’m not interested in playing the devil’s advocate, but do writers have kind of an exclusive relationship with newspapers or blogs? If a writer writes for one, does that kind of preclude them writing for another? If that is how it done, that I could understand. If that’s not the case, it makes less sense. People do get nervous, and never more so when the almighty dollah is threatened. Makes people act WEIRD.
I think we are witnessing the collapse of the Catholic Church, and the secular world, all at the same time. The only thing right now keeping us afloat is a man named Donald J. Trump. You think I’m kidding? I’m not. We are possibly on the verge of civil war. When you have the violent threats and rhetoric that we are seeing, (coming from members of Congress!), then you are in dire straits. We don’t know what’s coming. I’d just as soon we all get along, because who knows what all is coming folks. I’m encouraging all to put aside past hurts and work together for the good of the Kingdom. We have NO leaders, NONE. We are doing this on our own, and all the power resides with the Lavender Mafia.
We need each other.
Very well said. You nailed it. Louie keeps his eye on the Truth (Our Lord) while others try and connect and avoid calling out the failings of those in power who are closest to Tradition but still a long ways out.
Good job. God bless~
Done! Prayers sent. Thank you for posting about them:+)
But it doesn’t. Liberius was not a heretic. Neither did teach heresy to the Universal Church.
But it doesn’t. Liberius was not a heretic. Neither did he teach heresy to the Universal Church.
As a lawyer, I say there’s much truth in your words. Thus I fled the practice of law.
Much truth in your words.
As for civil war, we’ve been in a cold civil war for years. It may soon turn hot. Hence I’m delighted to have most prudently fled the land of Paco, Jamal, Abdul, Wong, and SixMillionowitz–i.e., California–and moved to the very red–and thus RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCISSS–state of Idaho. The last place I’d want to be when things turn hot is in a blue state–especially Cal–surrounded by Rico, Jermaine, Muhammad, Yang, and Shekelstein.
I would say that disgusting rant the other night was his “jump the shark” moment.
As a retired cop, this is one of the very few times a lawyer gave me an “atta boy”. lol
When it all comes down you need to be as far away from any highly populated site as possible. My dad, a JBS member, was preaching this to me as a little kid back in the late 70’s.
Seems so. It’s now kind of a badge of honor to have been banned by The Remnant Moderator, so banal are the comments sections there now. Such is cuckservatism; so banal because of the unquenchable cuckservative lust for mainstream respectability.
“Now, I don’t look down on either of these writers for backing down – they are my friends – but if it were me on the other end of Michael Matt’s bullying, I’d let him know exactly what he can do with his newspaper, and even offer to help him get the job done.”
When Fr Ratzinger passes away before Jorge, there is going to be a large influx of new sede’s. Im not trying to be funny here at all.
Quantity is surely part of it. But so is quality. The last people I want to be around are those–namely: Jaime, Lamar, Ahmed, Dong, and Holocaustowitz–who have been relentlessly indoctrinated for the past 50+ years to hate my people while sucking the lands of my ancestors dry. When things get hot, all restraints will be abandoned and the hate will be fully indulged.
Sadly, legions of my own people have been infected by the pathological complex of WEOSX (white ethnomasochist oikophobia and suicidal xenophilia). They’re to be found even in red states. They’re deathly afraid of being called RAAAAAAAAAAACCCISSSS, even if they consider themselves conservatives. These cuckservatives burn with unquenchable lust for mainstream respectability. Still, I expect that many of them will wake up when things turn hot.
Agreed on Pope Liberius who was under great pressure. However, St. Athanasius understood that the various Episcopal Sees were vacant when an Arian heretic was occupying it.
Yes, that is their motto and to large degree they think Sedevacantism on a tactical basis inexorably leads to conclavist debacles like Pope Michael, Schuckhardt, etc. Very few Trad anti-Sedes understand what the Cassiacum Thesis is and how it enables a retaking of the formal & material outcome of a truly Catholic Pontiff through abjuration of the modern V2 “Robber” Council.
His true colors are nasty. He made hell for the life of a sincere woman who questioned him as to why he gave the okay for a transgender to start a religious Order of women. A friend called her and heard the entire story of how he put the word out to priests in the Diocese of Madison she was a personal non grata.
He got angry at her for asking a sincere question ? A parishioner who wanted to know if he knew about his/her transgendered status ?
Note to Louie, thanks but it was kinda amusing watching the contortions he went through putting his foot in his mouth. a reflection of the hate we are seeing growing in politics by the day. Maxine Waters comes to mind.
The BBC whines about Italy’s Salvini’ and that his “ ferocious anti-immigrant rhetoric is proving very popular.”
Trads worldwide should move to Italy and follow Salvini’s plan with respect to Vatican City:
“Also in Italy, we need a mass cleaning, street by street, quarter by quarter, piazza by piazza. A strong manner is needed, because there are entire areas of cities, entire parts of Italy that are out of control.”
Evangeline , we have Our Lady and her Rosary. I’m serious here . Personally I have found how much easier it is to deal with serious heartbreaking dilemmas to the mild agitations of daily life when I start the day with a Rosary.
She’s the best Mother we could have and She is our Battle Commander too.
OK, cards on the table. I don’t comment, well rarely anyway, because I don’t feel I have the knowledge to add to conversations that knowledgable people are having. But I feel the need to mention a concern (to put it mildly). I was brought up in the NO world – not my fault, I didn’t know any different until a few years back when Francis started his antics and I could not in good conscience make excuses for or justify what he said/did. It made me look at my faith more closely, and I learned so much.
There are very few traditional sites worth their salt, and I have relied so heavily on them while re-learning my faith with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. It’s taken some of us longer than others to wake up and see the errors of the NO, that doesn’t make us stupid (as has been said in some posts), it just means that we didn’t have the right guidance while growing up, and that our journey was different. Here’s the confusion…what I’m seeing now is conflict, not togetherness; nit-picking, not understanding. It’s like there’s a schism within the trad movement. Such a shame when there are newbies who genuinely need good, solid advice and direction. It makes it hard to know who to trust (and trust is everything when everything is on the line). Where else do we go?
I advise getting off this site, and all others, and just subscribing to The Catholic Inquisitor. If you can avoid reading the comments here, then avoid them. But I’ve found them to be irresistible.
The problem for you as a total newbie to actual Catholicism is that you’re not yet equipped to sift truth from error in the comments. Thus my advice is as above, and to supplement that reading with books like Iota Unam, The Catechism of the Crisis in the Church, and above all with St. Alphonsus Liguori’s Prayer: The Great Means of Salvation.
Reality Is Inevitable
Im probably the biggest dope on this site and Ive been posting here since 2012 or 2013.
So any attempt for traditional Clergy to go into a conclave and elect a Pope so that Catholics can have valid and licit Sacraments will lead to a Pope Michael debacle? Wasn’t that some Catholic Mom making her son Pope? I’ll tell you what, if the guy is Catholic and I haven’t heard anything to the contrary, they may not be dumb but faithful. It seems to me that it was one of the few reasonable things anyone did. Everyone else followed a new religion or just started receiving illicit Sacraments.
AClay, If I was the one who called everyone stupid, I’m sorry. I definitely called random people that I don’t know, who don’t know that the sodomites are communists, mental defectives and I’m sorry, that’s not even necessarily accurate, I guess. You can learn a great deal more reading about your faith in books. If you haven’t read the Catechism of the Council of Trent, I think that is a great start. 1P5 also has a book list of recommended reading that I thought looked pretty good, https://onepeterfive.com/the-top-40-a-traditional-catholic-reading-list/
You’re not going to find togetherness in a comment box on AKACatholic. This is a what the heck is going on in the Catholic Church site? If we all sat here blessing each other, it would be a complete waste of time. Not that I don’t keep all in my prayers but this is a place for discussion not lock step agreement. Of all the blogs that I read and respect so much, I don’t agree 100% with a single one of the authors, we’re in a real conundrum, us Catholics. If you like the Remant, you shouldn’t let it bother you that others don’t. Personally, I have a great deal more respect for Mr. Verrecchio than pretty much any of the others. He has a great deal of integrity.
Ofcourse Johnno, will keep both of these men in my prayers. Sorry to hear this.
Taking another look at that list, I don’t want to be responsible for recommending Joseph Ratzinger or Jacques Maritain. I wouldn’t read those but I’d read Denzinger, Liberalism is a Sin by Felix Sarda, Ott, Ottaviani. I’d add Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism. Here is another list I’ve been using for yrs http://frcoulter.com/books/booklist.html, I’d just avoid Scott Hahn and Fr. Groeschel and maybe more and anything written after 1960.
It would be worthwhile if Louie could tell us what he agrees with and doesn’t in the Traditional Catholic publishing world. In other words, Michael Voris who won’t criticism Pope Francis, Michael Matt, Steve Skojec, etc.
I subscribe to most Traditional publications and blogs including a subscription to the Inquisitor and have been banned from Church Militant for criticizing Pope Francis.
As an aside, my main interest is reading and making Traditional Catholic comments on Crisis Magazine and The Catholic Things because the readers of these publications are typically not Traditionalist. There is not much point in making comments on Traditional sites as we all tend to agree on the essentials.
Hopefully, healing can take place between Louie and Michael. Let us pray. The devil just enjoys this fight too much.
What strikes me so odd about The Remnant is that they call Francis every name in the book, attack his papacy in every issue (rightly so), but still refer to him as The Pope. If he is, in fact, The Pope, where is the respect due to The Pope. Apparently, The Remnant is walking a tightrope. Make up your mind. Is he or Isn’t He????
Here is my take. The reason there is no unity among traditionalists is because we have noone to unify us: a true pope. Think about what makes the Catholic Church different from all of the rest: the pope. We are behaving as if we are part of a church without a pope …. because we are. Things are getting worse because Francis’ antics are worse. His heresy is more blatant. Having said that his antics are really just his heading further down the slippery slope of Vatican 2.
I find that trads find most agreement when discussing the main errors of Vatican 2: ecumenism, religious liberty, collegiality. Those who possess the Catholic Faith recognize what came before it can not possibly be the same Faith as what issued forth from it. Once one sees this they can not unsee it and sees everything that is happening through that (Catholic) lens. And when I speak of trads I speak of only those who see this not those who just “like” the Latin Mass better.
The differences occur when one tries to explain how the Catholic Church can promulgate and teach these errors in Faith and morals for decades when it is impossible for Her to do so.
As sedevacantist I would recommend the CMRI website to find numerous references to pre Vatican 2 papal/Church documents. Then just Google those documents. And yes any pre Vatican 2 catechism. Steer clear of anything written after V2. CMRI is sedevacantist but does not come off divisive or polarizing. It is a good place to start.
You are not stupid. As I wrote to Isle in the last piece, we all were once Novus Ordo. THANKS BE TO GOD that you are also now waking up. 🙂
Sursum, no he wasnt a sede because Liberius was a Pope who was exiled because he would not excommunicate Athanasius. The protestant and orthodox enemies of the Church smear Liberius’ name to promote the “popes can teach heresy” line. In all of St Athanasius’ writings he never condemns Liberius. Of course the SSPX and other resisters take up where the protestants and gallicans left off smearing Liberius.
“They like to have their Pope and beat him too,” as said by someone much smarter than me. Also said by someone much smarter than me, “we have a ringside seat to the death of civilization.”
If you are so sure that the sacraments are “illicit”, then why are you quick to assume that the election of a “Pope” Michael can be licit?
Furthermore, if you believe that the sacraments provided to the Faithful in these dire times by the traditional clergy are all “illicit”, why would you/how could you simultaneously believe that their election of a pope would/could be licit? That seems contradictory to me.
While deplore the tactics of harassment used to control Catholic Media, I think its much worse for us Catholics to fall into the mentality of trying to keep the Church going without a clergy which is authentically Catholic. Laicism, the error that says the Laity ought or can run the Church in place of instead of the clergy, is an error we all agree we should avoid scrupulously, but nevertheless, in the practical order, its an error we who are not clergy can easily fall into, especially in an age in which any decent believing faithful Catholic who is a member of the Clergy is targeted with all kinds of persecution if he but act out his faith as a priest.
The Church once had, and ought to have, an Holy Office of Inquisition. The Necessity of the Church to defend Herself from error is why Our Lord entrusted to the Clergy to rule the Church and gave the legitimate successors of Saint Peter the grace and charism of infallibility in the exercise of their official ministry.
Without such an Holy Office, the natural propensity to defend our Mother the Church can easily lead laymen to the excess of trying to control orthodoxy on their own authority. Which is why in the past the Church never allowed laymen, without ecclesiastical approval, to publish newspapers.
I agree, therefore, that in a time of utter chaos and disfunctionality among the clergy, that we all should refrain from trying to control what other laymen, who disagree with us, say, and hold more to the Rule of Faith, that beating each other over the head or black listing certain groups or banning them from running advertisements in their newspapers. I know of groups which have experienced the latter behavior from the major Catholic Newspapers in the USA, both NO and TLM, and no explanation was ever given. But it does seem to have to do with the same attitude you reprimand in this article. That’s for speaking about it.
The other uninteded consequence of giving Blunder the boot is that we’ll once again hear the constant preaching and recruiting of the sede herd, which has already started.
I need to research more. This has been on my radar for a deep dive. I don’t do history lessons from chat rooms. Not saying your wrong, and conversely, I’m not saying you are correct.
Supposedly there still is such an Office. It’s called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The problem is that Catholics don’t head it up anymore.
And of course that sort of uncharitable comment “adds to the discussion” too. /s
It is not just The Remnant, but many ‘trads’ who walk on a ‘tightrope’ sowing confusion to many. To the joy of the Modernists, the heretics, the Jews and every stripe, ultimately Satan.
This is what we may call ‘THE BEST SHOW ON EARTH!’
……..’FATIMA IN TWILIGHT!…….diabolical disorientation amongst us Catholics!
Make it a habit to listen to sensus fidelium (YouTube). Sensus is 95% awesome, but there is a smidge if Cuck. You will learn which priests teach well. Even among those, they tend to have 1 or 2 notes that are out of tune with the exception of Fr. Ripperger. Also, go to svfonline.org. That is a great resource.
Traditional Catholicism does have its kooks. Everywhere does, they are just more visible in these parts.
If the combox bothers you, don’t read it. I agree with Alphonsus. Get solid in your faith first.
Congrats and welcome to the party. Traditional Catholicism, aka Catholicism, is beautiful and wonderful.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia:
“It should be carefully noted that the question of the fall of Liberius is one that has been and can be freely debated among Catholics. No one pretends that, if Liberius signed the most Arian formulæ in exile, he did it freely; so that no question of his infallibility is involved. It is admitted on all sides that his noble attitude of resistance before his exile and during his exile was not belied by any act of his after his return, that he was in no way sullied when so many failed at the Council of Rimini, and that he acted vigorously for the healing of orthodoxy throughout the West from the grievous wound. If he really consorted with heretics, condemned Athanasius, or even denied the Son of God, it was a momentary human weakness which no more compromises the papacy than does that of St. Peter.”
You do realize that if Ratzinger dies before bergoglio, the author of this very blog, in essence, will also become a sede, right? He denies that bergoglio is a pope (I agree with him of course).
Whoa Dowd , things are morphing at Church Militant tv, they pander to their audience .I too was banned but not for the same reason. Now there is noticeable comments being allowed to remain posted criticizing his humbleness !
I think Voris, realizing the bulk of posters respond to his stories of a sodomite clergy , cannot deny the Papacy has opened the door very wide by appointing perverts of all stripes to positions of Vatican influence and authority
AClay, you are giving me hope for one of my children and so many of the younger Catholic homeschooling parents. All brought up in the NO religion they simply felt anyone ,including their parents, who spoke out on Traditional Catholicism were/are kooks. ( I never will forget one mother laughing her head off when I showed up with beautiful Fatima statues at 12 dollars a piece from a Fatima priest who took a financial loss himself ,wanting home school families to all have one) She through her head back and roared with laughter in front of other families asking ,”Who would want a statue of the Blessed Mother in their home?” Years later she placed a statue of Our Lady of Grace in her front window. Sadly, the family learned the hard way .They moved to Catholic Familyland where the husband got a job ,but it only lasted for three months before they became disillusioned. Then onto the Hahn’s home school group for a few months……..they again were disillusioned and returned back to the state they left but sadly the husband died of a heart attack when he picked up the moving truck for the move.
The moral of this story from my memory hole is that I believe they were searching for True Catholicism in Novus Ordo cults and organizations , but older Traditionally minded Catholics were just kooks in their minds.
Actually maybe Francis is a blessing in disguise ! AClay realized something was wrong in the Church thanks to Francis. I pray many more younger Catholics raised in the NO will too and continue their search for the Truth.
2Vermont, Can you tell me what made the election of “Pope” Michael illicit? I’m not being argumentative, but sincerely asking. I don’t have much knowledge about this event. Do you know if the man is a heretic?
2Vermont, If they are valid Priests and Bishops and it seems without doubt that they are, why wouldn’t their conclave be licit? Again, honest question.
For AlphonsusJr, Yet another story from my past life. Just ignore if you are offended please.
After 9/11 My husband’s company went belly up with the mass move of hardware computer designs and manufacturing to China. We moved down to a fixer upper we could buy outright near the shore. Our little development was surrounded by 55 and older communities just outside of Atlantic City. It was a little historic touristy village . After almost three years he finally found a job ( searching all day everyday) and we had to move again albeit , at less than half his previous salary.
One day years later we decided to return for an early dinner at a restaurant we used to like . One the way home I asked husband to stop at the local grocery store where we shopped when we lived there. The store used to be filled with senior citizens. Husband waited in the car while i ran in to use the bathroom. ( two glasses of wine at dinner)…….Now all I saw were black Muslims the women wearing full burkas , the men in shorts and tee shirts. I ran down a long hallway passing the men’s room to get to the ladies room ruminating as to why I was the ONLY Caucasian in the store. I sensed someone was following me….In the ladies room I was alone and turned to see a very tall large African man inside now blocking the doorway looking down at me. I resolved to confront him in a split second ( must have been the alcohol ) figuring if I was going to go down it would be with a fight. I got right up to him and looked him in the eye. ( can’t believe this even as I write it and glad Blunder isn’t here to call me a liar again . (But before Our Lord I tell you this is all true) . Anyway he raised his arms as if he was under arrest and mumbled something like he must have made a mistake. He ran literally out the door and through the store……….I never did go to the bathroom but hurried out to husband in the car. Immediately he said to me I would not believe what he just saw and I responded in like manner.He went first telling me about a drug deal right out in the parking lot between a cashier and another man . No concealment effort whatsoever. I told him what happened to me in the Lady’s Room. We wondered why the demographics changed so dramatically since we lived there only a few years before.
That’s when I found https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/ online and discovered our Bishops resettled nine thousand Somalians just outside of Atlantic City where there are many senior living communities !!!!!
I guess they thought the elderly would not complain or notice much.
P.S. Husband is sure St Michael was with me in that bathroom but he resolved always to accompany me and wait outside in the future just in case.
Moral to this story is that while the Bishops are making money from the Fed for re settling immigrants , So many of these people come from countries where crime is the main means of support and bring that work ethic here.
I don’t know much about “Pope” Michael/David Bawden either but I would bet that he’s actually Catholic (versus the post Vatican II Novus Ordo “popes”). His election is illicit/invalid because he was elected by folks without the authority to do so.
Let the circular firing squad begin! But I’m out. Hold the traditional Catholic Faith whole and entire and abjure V2, then there are only brothers and sisters. How you practice and live out your abjuration is your business. That’s why I enjoy reading the comments of 2V, TomA, SursumCorda, AJ, Melanie, Sweep, Rich, Johnno, The Papal Subject, among others.) Valid/Invalid Sacraments? BennyVacantist/Sedevacantist? Trads have to pray and do the best they can with these questions. Don’t have time nor inclination to listen to whiners, sodomites, and cucks who have the stink of controlled opposition (traitors) all over them like Matt and Voris.
The answer to your question is complicated.
I am just questioning your thinking … if you believe that their election would be licit, then why aren’t their sacraments licit?
In certain respects this blog’s commenters remind me of a “Trad” Dread Ilk, especially when Louie took up the title of Inquisitor!
Remember you are not alone, a good advice from Bp. Sheen;
“Faith is the acceptance of a truth on the authority of God revealing……The torch of Faith has been given to us not to delight our eyes but to enkindle the torches of our fellow men. Unless we burn and are on fire for the Divine Cause a glacial invasion will sweep the earth which will be the end, for “The Son of men, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?”
A hard-hitting condemnations of many of today’s most noxious errors, please read “The Popes Against Modern Errors” arranged and edited by Anthony J. Mioni, Jr.
‘On Liberalism’ (Mirari Vos, Pope Gregory XVI)
‘On Current Errors’ (Quanta Cura, Pope Pius IX)
‘Syllabus Of Errors’ (Pope Pius IX)
‘On Government Authority’ (Dituturnum Illud, Pope Leo XIII)
‘On Freemasonry and Naturalism’ (Humanum Genus, Pope Leo XIII)
‘On The Nature Of True Liberty’ (Libertas Praestantissimum, Pope Leo XIII)
‘On The Condition Of The Working Classes’ (Rerum Novarum, Pope Leo XIII)
‘On Christian Democaracy’ (Graves de Communi Re, Pope Leo XIII)
‘Syllabus Condemning The Errors Of The Modernists’ (Lamentabili Sane, Pope St. Pius X)
‘On Modernism’ (Pascendi Domini Gregis, Pope st. Pius X)
‘Our Apostolic Mandate’ (On the ‘Sillon,’ Pope St. Pius X)
‘The Oath Against Modernism’ (Pope St. Pius X)
‘On the Feast Of Christ The King’ (Quas Primas, Pope Pius XI)
‘On fostering True Religious Unity’ (Mortalium Animos, Pope Pius XI)
‘On Atheistic Communism’ (Divinie Redemptoris, Pope Pius XI)
‘On Certain False Opinions Which Threaten To Undermine The Foundations Of Catholic Doctrine’ (Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII)…..We have been warned!!!
Also, I highly recommend to get hold of the ‘Children of the Latter Days’ CD’s on the Apocalypse (from Catholic Family News)…..all are great, but my favorite is by Louie Verrecchio….. ‘Cardinal Pacelli’s Prophetic Warning: Ecclesial Suicide and the Virtual Enthronement of Man!’
2Vermont, I don’t understand where you find my contradiction. The Traditional clergy don’t say that their Sacraments are licit, do they? I was under the impression that they operated under emergency type procedures and kind of, if you can’t get permission ask forgiveness theory. But you don’t need permission from a the dead Pope to elect a new Pope or we’d never have gotten a second Pope, so how could it be illicit to elect a pope, and then you could ask his forgiveness and I’m sure you’d get it plus faculties plus more Bishops plus a functioning Church.
Every Catholic publication has (or should have) a Mission Statement. Any well-written logical article submitted which conforms with this statement should be considered for publication. For an editor to reject a writer because he submitted an article to another newspaper is an adolescent response. It is not the author who will suffer. It will be the editor who demonstrated that his own personal goals are more important than the mission of his publication. Brian McCall took the high road. He should be applauded.
Presumption, rash judgment on your part. After the new CFN site (catholicfamilynews.org) launched, the old and dormant CFN website (cfnews.org) rerouted to the new, and then expired. I’m sure that you have not found the cited article *only* for that reason.
What email address have you used to contact CFN? Did you use their web contact form? Did you try calling them, toll-free? 1 800 474 8522.
The traditional clergy absolutely say their Sacraments are licit in order to bring means of salvation to the Faithful. Divine Law.
You are confusing things with what the “home-aloners” say. They believe that the traditional clergy do not have licit sacraments…which is why they refuse to participate in their sacraments going as far as saying that those who do participate in them are committing sacrilege and mortal sin.
In the life of the church, that is a wide range. Does that mean 10 seconds or 10 years? That makes a huge difference and I suspect that “momentary” was quite a bit longer than you think.
Ha! Indeed, he/she was quite confused and, unfortunately, the ways of the world pulled through his/her veins.
2Vermont, If that’s truely the case than there’s no problem and we’re wasting a great deal of time considering all of this.
When LV writes an article on Sedevacantistism or whether the pope is the pope, I would consider arguing the merits of Sedevacantism valid.
Turning every single combox discussion into validating your SV position is not charitable to us simple folk. It’s boorish. Furthermore, I would add that it is a sign of weakness as it shows low confidence in your position. Think about how people living in sin want to be validated in their sin. Same principle.
Also, I see a commonality amongst all “Trad” groups; nobody is proposing a path towards filling the chair of Peter. Even though Catholics have done this over 200 times. SSPX tells me I’ve got a Pope and CMRI tells me that God will send a Pope. Why don’t any of these guys want a Pope? I don’t like that.
“Momentary” In the life of the church, that is a wide range. Does that mean 10 seconds or 10 years? That makes a huge difference and I suspect that “momentary” was quite a bit longer than you think.”
Of course you can’t take the one word out of the CE entry’s full context. The CE entry states: “it was a momentary human weakness WHICH NO MORE COMPROMISES THE PAPACY THAN DOES THAT OF ST PETER.
Bottom line: Pope Liberius was no heretic.
Well, all good things must come to an end. But if my remarks have helped even one person to steer clear of this toxic smorgasbord of disaffected, non-churchgoing ex-Catholics, I’ve done some good. I’ve certainly been vulgar on occasion, but only to those who were vulgar first. Evidently that’s not even why I’m being purged. lol
Louie, I guess the irony of your censoring a dissenter in the combox of the very article where you whine at length about the lack of journalistic integrity of a competitor is lost on you. I hope removing me helps unbunch your undies and those of whichever financial supporters bombarded you with complaints.
Over the course of the past year, you’ve self-radicalized to the point that entire raison d’être for your writing, this site, and your new print venture, is to excoriate Pope Francis and other consertive Catholics whom you, as self-appointed Grand Inquisitor, deem insufficiently Catholic. You inconceivably tolerate, and even embrace and encourage the condemnation and denigration of minorities, alongside calls for persecution of gays and Jews plastered in these comboxes by your enthusiastic newspaper subscribers, while mocking the “apostobusiness” of Catholic Answers and Church Millitant. Seems to me you’ll strenuously avoid offending the worst of the worst ex-Catholics in your rabble, provided they keep supporting your efforts. A truly unique take on “defending Catholic Traditon – without compromise.” I initially thought you were just misguided, but between the parody videos, the long posts picking fights with other Trads, and the constant effort to be the altest-right and Raddest Trad of all, I see a lot of ego and fanaticism instead. Regardless of your motivation, which I can’t judge, I do hope you understand the gravity of regularly urging – in writing – “just about 700” people to leave the Catholic Church.
No hard feelings, though. I have purchased a gift subscription of “The Remnant” for you so that Michael Matt’s mug will regularly appear in your mailbox for the next year. You will also receive a copy of Karl Keating’s latest excellent book.
AdolphusJr, although you are the most vocal and repugnant of the bigots here, I have nevertheless donated $24.99 each to the NAACP, the ADL, and Courage in your name.
To anyone else reading, I would urge you to remain in, or return to the Catholic Church. Pray, and look for a good parish and good priests. They’re all around. If you refuse, remember that since you’ve deliberately placed yourselves outside the Church, that “invincible ignorance” loophole you grudgingly acknowledge is pretty narrow. Apply reason to the arguments you read about how this is the end times, there are no more priests, etc.; it’s “invincible ignorance”, not “invincible stupidity”.
Well, that’s all the admonishing and instructing I’ll be doing here. I’ll leave you with the words of St. John Paul the Great: “Do not abandon yourselves to despair. We are the Easter people and hallelujah is our song.”
– Vermin Blunderass
Okay, last thing 2Vermont. If their conclave was illicit, not sure of all the legalities, I’d still think this would fall under ask forgiveness not permission. Unless I’m mistaken, illicit is not the same as invalid and the Pope binds and looses. Once he actually exists, he can punish and pardon as he sees fit, no?
Blunder you were removed because people are tired of liberal/homosexual nonsense. If we wanted to hear that garbage we’d be posting on the myriad of vatican 2/homo/pro contraception-abortion sites that exist. We dont want anything to do with your sicko “church”. With that said, I do wish you well.
Blunder Vermin. I for one know exactly what you are all about.
Couching your vile rhetoric behind outrage of Catholic/ Jewish historical evidence is a farce.
“Traditional” to you means a return to disgust for the efforts of sodomitic acceptation and normalization of the vice in polite society and the institutional Church today. You are not a passionate Papist cheering on Francis. I doubt if you are even religious to any degree.
Your own words have always given your real purpose for posting here away.
“….alongside calls for persecution of gays”
No one ever called for this here and you know it !!!
Melanie, actually no one here has any authority to declare Pope Michael’s election valid or invalid. We only have our reason to accept his claim or not. As wierd as the case sounds it is kind of ironic to see so many trads dismiss Michael even though he speaks like a true Catholic and was actually elected by those who were Catholic. Whereas the imposter Bergolio was probably never Catholic and was elected by a gaggle of modernist heretics. But so many say Bergolio is Pope because he wears a white cassock. The Cassiacum theory is interesting and may turn out to be true one day, but until there is a Pope, we wont know for sure and can only endlessly debate. Its a lousy situation but it is our only option since we can have nothing to do with the Novus Ordo V2 sect. In essence, we have no Pope or at best we have a Pope-in-waiting scenario. It doesn’t matter because from a practical sense, we trads are all sedes in one form or another since we do not heed one word that fool Bergolio utters. The neo-Caths are slowly coming around to see this harsh reality.
Sursum, I would start with the Catholic Encyclopedia (pre V2 of course). It has excellent articles on all the so called “heretical” Popes. I would absolutely avoid Michael Davies unless you then immediately read John S.Daly’s Evaluation of Davies. Davies was the SSPX go to guy to justify their “resistance.” Turns out his academic work was very shoddy. But he told many what they wanted to hear so they swallowed hook line and sinker.
Sursum, here is the website:
Thank you for your many posts, and your understated humour which was greatly appreciated.
I thought your insights and comments were of great value, and am amazed you are now barred from commenting…
“Praise adds nothing to your holiness, nor does blame take anything from it. You are what you are, and you cannot be said to be better than you are in God’s sight. If you consider well what you are within, you will not care what men say about you. They look to appearances but God looks to the heart. They consider the deed but God weighs the motive.”
Thomas a Kempis
If that is what he truly believes, than what else would you expect for him to say here? I see NO weakness in any of 2Vermont’s posts…ever. Calling someone “weak” just because you disagree with their position has no merit.
Combox’s are FOR discussion….that’s why we go to any blog….for DISCUSSION.
If you have to wait for LV (who I think is a great guy….thats why Ive been here for about 6 years now) to write an article about sedevacantism before you do your homework, than you’re simply a lazy person.
One wonders whether traditionalists truly believe in Our Lord’s promise to Peter at Caesarea Philippi: “The gates of hell shall not prevail against It” (the Church). Also, the First Vatican Council in Pastor aeternus states: “And indeed, all the venerable Fathers have embraced, and the holy orthodox Doctors have venerated and followed, their Apostolic doctrine; knowing most fully that this See of holy Peter remains ever free from all blemish of error, according to the Divine promise that the Lord our Savior made to the Prince of His disciples: “But I have prayed for you, so that your faith may not fail, and so that you, once converted, may confirm your brothers.” (Lk 22:32). ”
Just because a particular teaching hasn’t been defined as infallible, Holy Scripture is infallible and the teaching of the First First Vatican cannot be denied or opposed without mortal sin. But the antics of Bergoglio are absolutely UNDENIABLY in opposition to the the Church’s millennial teaching. And even though not defined the declaration that Bergoglio is not Pope is not without historical precedence. St. Vincent Ferrer supported an anti-Pope, which is to say nothing less than that the real Pope was not the Pope. St. Vincent eventually embraced the true Pope.
Once the pompous parade of Francis with his favorite perverts from the fringes has been acknowledged as outside the Church the Catholic and Bergoglio had never been Pope, Cardinals can study the situation to determine whether Benedict is actually still Pope, or if he has died they can hold Valid Conclave to elect a true Pope.
Yeah, the same vatican 2 clown “cardinals” who “elected” this current wolf. Im sure that will end up well.
All of these men are of the same cloth my friend. Vatcian 2 “cardinals” have no authority to do anything. They have rejected our Faith because they adhere to the vatican 2 religion. Not ONE validly ordained priest from back in the day, who wound becoming a Cardinal over time (there are likely very few left and I dont even think that THEIR rise through the ranks could be valid) has damned the vatican 2 church. When ONE of them does that, I’ll start to listen.
I vehemently disagree with the SSPX on major issues, but they have valid bishops, and there are others off of the grid who are also valid. THEY need to get together and elect a true Pope. No bishop/cardinal in the vat 2 bastard religion is valid.
Not so fast, s/he IS BACK!
I’m going to miss blunder. Say what you want about him, but he was witty and entertaining, and brought a different perspective. He even made some good points. I think Mr. Verrecchio should invite him back.
Not rash judgment. I searched the site and the essay isn’t there. I then sent multiple emails to CFN through the contact form on their site. They failed to answer the question of why that essay has been flushed. Hopefully, the new editor McCall will restore it. But if it remains memory holed, then the quite logical conclusion is that CFN is going full CatholiCuck. Sad!
Just stop it. Surely, Thomas a Kempis had Blunderass in mind when he wrote that! You’re Blunderass, right? Only the British version with your “understated humour”?
That quote is in honour of the Blunderass is so rich!
“Thus we can see that Thomas a Kempis; in spite of all his fame, held a very negative and derogatory view of jews and is the kind of character who reminds the discerning reader of the militant and fairly brutally anti-jewish nature of medieval Christianity. Therefore making it all the more amusing that those who preach ‘tolerance’ and ‘equality’ have a tendency to cite ‘The Imitation of Christ’ as being an inspirational book (even if they don’t believe in the truth of Christianity).”
(1) Thomas a Kempis, ‘The Imitation of Christ’, 3:40
(2) Ibid. 4:2
(3) Ibid. 4:18
Posted 29th April 2014 by Karl Radl
Melanie: “I’ll tell you what, if the guy is Catholic and I haven’t heard anything to the contrary, they may not be dumb but faithful. It seems to me that it was one of the few reasonable things anyone did.”
If you think the election of Pope Michael was reasonable, you will be elated to learn that he’s not the only “pope” elected by sedevacantist heretics. The reasonable act was repeated many other times, producing over a dozen of so antipopes, each claiming to be the head of the “true” Catholic Church.
So gamma. What a cuck. Just pitiful.
That may be so Ignatio, but he’s the only one I’ve heard of. I’m going to look into it; not sure why I haven’t.
Melanie: “Okay, last thing 2Vermont. If their conclave was illicit, not sure of all the legalities, I’d still think this would fall under ask forgiveness not permission. Unless I’m mistaken, illicit is not the same as invalid and the Pope binds and looses. Once he actually exists, he can punish and pardon as he sees fit, no?”
Welcome to the wacky world of sedevacantism, where a half dozen lay people can get together and elected one of their own “pope”, and the election is considered valid, just not licit.
TomA: “no one here has any authority to declare Pope Michael’s election valid or invalid. We only have our reason to accept his claim or not. As wierd as the case sounds it is kind of ironic to see so many trads dismiss Michael even though he speaks like a true Catholic.”
Google “Pope Michael Documentary” to meet the person TomA doesn’t doesn’t dismiss as being the pope.
Ignatio, Christ, the Son of God was born in a manger and not in a palace. Why cant a Pope come from a kitchen in Kansas? While personally, I do not accept Bawden’s claim based on the issue of his electors, he is 100% Catholic in his teachings. On that fact alone, he has a better claim to the office than Bergolio. The establishment thought Christ was a nut job. Don’t be too harsh to judge someone the mob calls whacky, else you fall victim to the same mentality that the Jews did when they screamed, “Crucify Him.” Bawden raises a good question that needs to be properly discussed in the trad community. What does it take to properly elect a Pope? But if you rather belittle and poke fun, go ahead and become the new blunderass.
Since the issue of Bawden and Conclavism was brought up, here’s a good hypothetical question. If God told you that either Bawden or Bergolio was the True Pope, and you had to pick one and then pledge your undying allegience to that man and obey him and assent to all his teachings and disciplines. Who would you pick and would could you give your allegience to? Since many readers here actually believe Bergolio is the Pope, then why aren’t you pledging your allegience to him and obeying and assenting to his teachings and disciplines? Why do you resist the man who Christ Himself gave His Authority to in order to teach, sanctify, and govern all Catholics. What reall irks me about RR types is how disrespectful they are of the Pope and the hierarchy that they believe Christ has ordained they follow. You are like rude disobedient disruptive children in the classroom. Causing problems for those who want to learn. We sedes realize that the teachers are from hell and we have left that classroom. Better lost in the wilderness with our Rosary than corralled into the NO V2 School of Hell.
Those who believe that this clown Jorge is actually a pope (smh) and STILL abuse him will no doubt have to suffer at some point (it doesnt matter that he wasnt a Pope….what matters is that they BELIEVED that he was a Pope and STILL abused him). Thats just unacceptable behavior…..its worse than spitting on your mom or dad.
Thank you everyone for praying!
Some good news is that Mr. Delano’s heart condition has been stabilized and he is awake now and in good spirits, though there’s still a way to go until a complete recovery. So please keep at it!
God bless you all!
I’ll just leave this here:
It’s about time more people paid attention to the verbal clues in the speeches of all these modernist heretics that stink of Jewish Mysticism known as the Kabbalah!
That’s what all this “togetherness” “we are becoming ‘church'” “care for the environment” “opening of windows to the world” “dialogue and unity” “noosphere” “becoming one with the godforce” bullshit is really all about!
The Vatican is the equivalent of Solomon’s first temple and the state of Israel prior to their schism form Judah, the destruction of the 1st Temple and Exile. History is repeating itself.
You nailed it, I’m lazy.
If you don’t see weaknesses in 2V’s arguments, it is because you don’t want to see them, or your lazy. I’m guessing it is the former.
Sursumcorda…. that “momentary” post of yours? THAT was weak. YWIA.
By the way, any comments I have made that touch on the SV position somehow relate to the OP or the other posts here. I rarely, if ever, start the topic. Much to your surprise I am sure, sometimes others actually ask sincere questions about it too .. and so I answer them!
So far Louie doesn’t have a problem with the way I conduct myself nor the content of my posts. It is interesting that my posts do get under your skin though. I would argue that the fact that they bother you so much and the fact that you think it is “uncharitable” of me to include them here (lol) means that it is YOUR position that is the weak one.
That’s where I got the quote about Pope Liberius. The CE is a good place to start because, assuming the entry was from before Vatican II, it doesn’t take sides with respect to the current Crisis.
TomA: “But if you rather belittle and poke fun, go ahead and become the new blunderass.”
It is interesting that more often than not it is the non-sedes (anti-sedes) who belittle and poke fun, isn’t it?
“As weird as the case sounds it is kind of ironic to see so many trads dismiss Michael even though he speaks like a true Catholic and was actually elected by those who were Catholic. Whereas the imposter Bergolio was probably never Catholic and was elected by a gaggle of modernist heretics. But so many say Bergolio is Pope because he wears a white cassock. ”
Now that’s pretty wacky.
“The Popes Against Modern Errors”: yes!
Hi A Clay. Welcome.
My journey toward Tradition started with Benedict’s ascension and the MP of 07/07/07. My flight to Tradition accelerated with the horrors of Bergoglio. I live in a wasteland diocese much of the year but have intermittent access to the SSPX.
Stick with Louie. He is solid. He has journeyed in a way similar to us and was even once a Vatican II NuChurch darling. Having utmost intellectual integrity, the scales fell from his eyes.
Louie won’t compromise—his love of Truth shines through his every post. All for the Glory of Christ Our King. Louie never obscures the truth written on all our hearts. He angers many who have a lot of crazy foibles and darkened intellects to one degree or another.
It is our delight that Louie is so articulate, talented, humble, and forthright.
Thanks, Louie. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Ever Mindful ,obviously you are un mindful of the various posts in which Blunder casts the most vile sexual slurs about?
Or where he describes what he believes his genitalia appear to be to him?
Hardly acceptable conversation for any person who claims to be Catholic to be engaged in ,especially on a public site in mixed company.
I offer you the benefit of the doubt that you missed those posts.
They became increasingly offensive to where even poor Melanie begged another poster not to address them by copying and pasting them again.
I have to agree with you Akita. I don’t agree with Louie wrt the other post Vatican 2 popes but I really admire him. He truly seems sincere in his quest for truth and he has no fear.
A classic “Secret King”
Ignatio: Do you have any idea what percentage of so-called “sedevacantists” accept the claim of Pope Michael? Do you know how it breaks down according to affiliation? For example, do those who hold to the sedevacantist position and attend SSPX Chapels accept Pope Michael’s claim? Do those who hold the sedevacantist position and attend indult masses accept the claim of Pope Michael? Does Father Cekada accept the claim of Pope Michael? Isn’t the example of Pope Michael used by the lay, non-expert spokesman of the SSPX in a dishonest way to cast aspersions on those who hold the sedevacantist position? Isn’t that what you are doing here? I could believe that if a Pope Michael didn’t exist, the R&R camp would create one because the existence of a Pope Michael is so useful to their business model!
Speaking of Brian McCall, his new book has been published:
The Architecture of Law: Rebuilding Law in the Classical Tradition https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/026810333X/ref=dbs_a_w_dp_026810333x
One of the book’s endorsers says: “The book is nothing short of a masterpiece.”
All biblical citations are to the Douay-Rheims.
The book is dedicated to Abp. Lefebvre.
It looks quite promising.
Most astonishingly, it’s published by Notre Dame Press.
If “Pope Francis” wore the blackest denim jeans, a black-and-white-striped French fisherman’s sweater, a black beret, black chuck taylor basketball sneakers, small circular black sunglasses, and sported a pony tail and soul patch, and smoked expensive cigarettes using a cigarette holder, do you think people would take his claim to the papacy more or less seriously? The point I am making is that if he dressed like he talks, no one would take him seriously, but the fact that he alone is allowed to dress as Pope makes the deception so much easier!
St. Cyprian, In Ignatio’s defence, he didn’t even bring up Pope Michael. LennyB brought it up. I think he was equating Catholics who imagine that we can elect a Pope to Pope Michael’s mother. He evidently ascribes to a more sensible approach that he thinks recognize and resisters will be more amenable to, called the Cassiacum Thesis.
Melanie: You gave him the opportunity, e.g., to utter this:
“Welcome to the wacky world of sedevacantism, where a half dozen lay people can get together and elected one of their own “pope”, and the election is considered valid, just not licit.”
It is clear that he welcomed the opportunity presented in this thread to discredit so-called “sedevacantists” with the example of Pope Michael. It isn’t the first time partisans of the SSPX – of which he most likely is one – have used the example of Pope Michael to influence those who are confused by the predicament of the Church.
I gave him the opportunity? I’m not the one who suggested that Catholics electing a Pope when the seat is vacant can only lead to a Pope Michael debacle. That’s, quite frankly, gaslighting. I’m supposed to think I’m being crazy to imagine that Catholic clergy can get their stuff together and elect a Pope to leads Christ’s Church. Get out.
Melanie: “Giving him the opportunity” was a statement of fact because he replied to YOUR comment, apparently in an attempt to persuade you. It was not in any way intended to be an accusation. Ignatio is apparently on orders from the SSPX to discredit this blog – note his comment on Randy Engel’s article. Was that the best way to “help” Randy Engel, ya think? Immediately call her a mortal sinner and discredit her judgments? Mr, Verrechio is treading on dangerous terrain here where the hirelings who above all else love money and position will be seeking to discredit him and those who contribute here and to his new venture.
What do you suggest St. Cyprian? Or do you just think that we should all just keep quiet, so we don’t give the mean man an opportunity to make fun of us? What grade are you in?
I’m sorry, I was sharp w/you St. Cyprian. But SSPX is one ridiculous jumble of cognitive dissonance. I’m not going to be silenced by them, just because this guy uses scorn and derision instead of reasoned debate. People reading can see that too and it does nothing to elevate their untenable position. They are lying; maybe to themselves before anyone else but truth will out. It may be that it’s not possible to elect a Pope, maybe we’ve lost the favor of God to do this but I think it’s worth discussing.
And please Mr. Verrecchio, if you think that my comments in your comment box can damage your new venture, I will not be hurt in the least if I go the way of Blunderbuss. If you publish why I’m given the boot, that might hurt my feelings.
Melanie: I don’t think you’re understanding StCyprian’s posts. I doubt he is saying you shouldn’t have said/asked what you said/asked re: the traditional clergy electing a pope. I think he is merely showing that Ignatio used your comment about “Pope” Michael to discredit all sedevacantists and their position. Ignatio knows full well that it is an infinitesimal percentage of sedes that hold that he is the true pope.
I happen to think all of your questions are valid to ask. Unfortunately, not all of the questions we have can be answered. I think all of us are just trying to do our best to get by in this mess…including the traditional clergy. By the way, if I’m not mistaken, I think TomA answered that last question you had for me.
You must have missed this one:
Hello there Great Stalin! I remember seeing some comments of yours on 1P5 a little while ago and asking where you’ve been and why I don’t see you on the Remnant anymore. Then you explained how Remnant banned you. I rarely view Remnant or 1P5 but check AKA on a daily basis. Good to see you here.
I see, 2Vermont. I believe that if your premise has a “Pope” Michael vulnerable point, it’s best to hash it out. It’s good to know where his mother went wrong, because they had the right idea when nobody else did. If it was that no valid clergy supported them and their candidate was subpar than shame on the clergy for failing their flock. These folks tried to remain Catholic while many will just say stuff this. Now, I say that if there is something to be done and they continue to fail, it will not be good. They sure make a tremendous effort to recruit Priests and maybe their strategy is numbers but a Pope is more important than Priests. And, I think no matter how many Priests they ordain big problems will start to arise if we remain w/out a head.
I always enjoyed your comments on 1P5 too, oh Great Stalin! Now, it’s just Rod H and Margaret.
The issue Melanie is that the sede traditional clergy do not believe they have the authority to elect a pope. Recognize and Resist clergy think we already have a pope despite the fact that the man isn’t Catholic. They also believe that the Novus Ordo clergy have the authority to elect another pope despite the fact that the they aren’t Catholic either.
It certainly is a conundrum.
Wow, really? If that’s the case, than I’m sure they are correct to believe that. I do have confidence that they are educated and intelligent men. I’m sad to hear this. Thanks.
Per Vox Day: “One significant characteristic of the Gamma male is that he cannot deal with being publicly shown to be wrong. Such an event punctures the delusion bubble in which he, the Secret King, always triumphs, so it creates a wound that never heals, and festers much longer than any higher-rank man can imagine. Even if he manages to control himself and not let it show immediately, it eats away at him and preys on his mind.
The way the Gamma usually deals with a festering wound is to attempt to negate it by subsequently demonstrating his superiority to the party who dealt it to him. This means that he will lie in wait, for years if need be, for what he sees as an opportunity to prove the offending party wrong. This, he believes, will disqualify and discredit the party, which somehow means that the Gamma was not wrong the first time, even though he was. But no matter, the Secret King triumphs in the end!”
Hey, AlJr. of anyone else: I have a Q about Fatima. When Our Lady said in 1917-18 “errors of Russia”, didn’t she mean Bolshevism? and therefore communists/Jews?
How can we square this with blaming ethnic white/slav Russians? What errors do normal Russians make? Communism was Bolshevik and Jewish in origin, not “Russian”.
Thank you Comrades JBomb and Melanie. TGS has been resting at his humble Crimean dacha but the time has come to once again heed the cries of the downtrodden Peasant and Worker, submit to the loathsome Krupskaya’s plates of boiled beets and resume Leadership of all those who follow the Line of Lenin!
“Actually, maybe Francis is a blessing in disguise!” I have been saying this for a long time, SPTF. Remember that God writes straight with crooked lines.
Johnno, your comment is extremely important. I hope that the readers of this blog will investigate further. ‘Tikkun olam”, which means “repair of the world”, is Kabbalistic in origin. This philosophy is at the heart of the so-called ‘social justice movement’ that has cemented itself within the Catholic Church. So, who is running the Church?…….
Meow! Does this catfight ever end? You cite previously published material but it seems like most of it involves Matt or Ferrara responding to your attacks, not the other way around. This site has grown increasingly acrimonious in the last couple of years…seemingly against everyone. There is, indeed, a circular firing squad. It just seems like you keep firing away and acting shocked, mind you, shocked that others then question your opinions or motives. I was going to subscribe to your new publication in order to support a trad media outlet, but I’m afraid it’s just going to include personal attacks and defensive tomes against all those imaginary enemies. I’ll wait and see.
Right. Only those who don’t believe he is pope are allowed to abuse him. You sedes are allowed to say whatever you want about Francis, but those who believe he is pope HAVE to believe everything and do everything he says, and not complain. That’s the convoluted thinking of sedevacantism.
If we are not allowed to question or judge anything that a true pope says, then how did the first sedevacantist ever arrive at the idea that the pope is in error and therefore not the pope? That requires a judgment, which is not allowed at all (according to sedes). That’s another reason why sedevacantism is ridiculous.
And that’s what sedes love most – a front row seat in watching the death of civilization, because they love destruction.
About fifteen Ministerial members of the first Bolshevik.government were Jews. Most of the higher ranks of the CHEKA were Jews. Yet by the early 1930s, Stalin has de-jewified both to a great extent. And then came the madness of the Yezhov and Yagoda purges. So lovers of the deathcult were very far from.being only Jewish.
The errors of Russia?
2. Materialist atheism.
Indeed, it’s wonderful that you have ventured from your dacha, TGS. You have been missed!
Looking forward to your (and often, humorous) insights.
No problem. I will subscribe in your stead since I, like most other supporters of Louie’s honesty and integrity, actually READ what he’s saying and accept the truth of it . Your whole post is made up of “it seems like” rather than informed judgement.
If you can’t see the “old boy’s network ” within the Catholic media, it only proves your lack of understanding of how they’re system works!
Sorry “How THEIR system works.
1 P 5 were just as bad. I was banned from their site for life along with 4 others in the same week. Their moderators are, putting it mildly , incompetent.
Standing ovation for you Johnno! God bless you.
Bravo. No man can serve two masters………..
You’ve got it. Both of them are now on my prayer list too. May God hold them in the palm of His hand.
Great post I couldn’t agree more. Louie picks up the Cross to follow the footsteps of Jesus daily and carries it. Matt expects others to carry it but he takes the credit!
Ouch! But oh so true!
“The only thing keeping us afloat is Donald J Trump.” That Pedo-Zionist, Illuminati stooge? LOL