Raymond What formal act of correction? Burke, a supporter of the “Cura Pastoralis”
On May 2, yet another petition drive launched in the face of the Bergoglian menace was made public; this one designed to collect the signatures of priests who wish to politely request the bishops’ help in addressing the present crisis.
In other words, they are essentially asking the bishops to behave more like fatherly men then like limp wristed lemmings, which is most ironic given that the tenor of the appeal offers a prime example of priestly pusillanimity (or, if you prefer, presbyteral pansiness).
Going by the formal name, Cura Pastoralis (Pastoral Care and Concern), the “Pastoral Appeal to the Bishops for an Apostolic Reaffirmation of the Gospel” is carefully worded to avoid naming the problem.
It begins:
As priests ordained to assist in the pastoral care of God’s people, we write to request your help in dealing with a mistaken approach to the Christian moral life that we frequently encounter and that grievously harms those misled by it.
What exactly is this “mistaken approach”?
… the mistaken approach asserts that those who commit objectively evil acts and judge themselves subjectively free of culpability must be allowed to receive Holy Communion … it denies that certain behaviors are always evil and claims that in some circumstances those behaviors are the most realistic good that can be achieved or, indeed, are simply good … [it] declares that those behaviors can be approved or proposed by God.
And where do they “frequently encounter” this “mistaken” (i.e., it’s not deliberate!) approach?
They don’t say, but every Catholic with an ounce of give-a-hoot knows the answer:
They are having it jammed down their collective throats by “The God of Surprises” – aka Jorge Mario Bergoglio – a flaming heretic who has deified himself to the point where he genuinely desires to see his every diabolical whim embraced by Catholics worldwide as a gift of the Holy Spirit.
The so-called Cura Pastoralis continues:
Although this approach claims to be a new and legitimate development…
What a load garbage! “The approach” doesn’t claim anything; Jorge Bergoglio does; primarily in the text of his ersatz “Apostolic Exhortation” Amoris Laetitia, but the authors of the appeal are way too sissified to say so.
On this note, Christopher Ferrara wrote a fairly decent response to this appeal for the Remnant, asking rhetorically:
With all due respect to the distinguished signatories, does not their resolute avoidance of the obvious even tend to render their appeal something of a joke?
Mr. Ferrara correctly referred to their avoidance as “transparently obvious,” but if one was to imagine that this is the point; namely, to cleverly make precisely the case that the heretic Bergoglio and his Love Letter to Lucifer are the problems without actually saying so, they would be incorrect.
On May 16, the organizers of the appeal issued a press release stating in part:
Some of the early coverage mistakenly cast the Pastoral Appeal as a veiled criticism of Pope Francis, especially of Amoris Laetitia.
Can this effort be any more pathetic?
Actually, yes, it can.
That the appeal is a joke is obvious enough given that the authors of the text don’t have the guts to speak plainly, but if anything truly distinguishes the signatories it is the not so funny errors and contradictions to which they have chosen to attach their names.
For instance:
We believe much of the damage could be healed or mitigated if you were to reaffirm Christ’s teachings and to correct those errors with the full authority of your apostolic office.
Nonsense. This is the Council speaking: No need to actually condemn heresy, much less the heretics that are spreading them, just regurgitate the truth and it will magically attract souls to Christ.
The appeal concludes by sheepishly offering ten “affirmations” that the bishops might consider making their own, a number of which cry out for clarification if not condemnation.
For instance:
Christians in communion with God may suffer from ignorance or from impediments to freedom to a degree that mitigates or entirely removes culpability in a particular embrace of evil. Although what they do is actually (i.e., objectively) evil and thus harmful to themselves and others in various ways, they can be personally (i.e., subjectively) not culpable of sin and therefore remain morally unharmed.
There is an obvious contradiction being stated here:
1) Objectively evil acts are harmful – this is true.
2) Objectively evil acts for which one is not culpable are not morally harmful – this is most certainly false.
Any time one is living in opposition to the Divine Law, harm is being done – if nothing else, by virtue of the false witness being given to the ignorant. A lack of individual culpability does not change this.
Secondly, there is an omission here. It should be noted that individuals and their pastors are not capable of making a subjective judgment of inculpability for mortal sin; that is for God alone to judge. (I’ve written on this many times; e.g., HERE)
Christians who embrace evil without culpability remain in communion with God, but are trapped in situations that are actually harmful and prevent them from fully sharing the abundant life Jesus came to bring. The task of the Church is to help heal and free them by patiently bringing the grace and truth of his Gospel.
Once again, the error in item #3 is made plain: embracing evil without culpability is actually harmful – this is true, but the opposite of what was stated previously.
Reception of Holy Communion in specific cases by those who have remarried following a divorce depends on the objective reality of the bond of their first marriage and on the avoidance of sin and public scandal, not only on their private intention to avoid future sexual activity, their subjective evaluation of the current relationship, or their subjective judgment of innocence regarding sexual activity in that relationship (see Mt 5:32).
The failure to mention that the Church alone can issue a ruling concerning the objective reality of a marital bond, especially in light of the present situation, is another grave error of omission.
So far, it looks like roughly 250 priests have signed this weak and misleading text, and though I trust that the signatories mean well, my advice to them would be to man up, stop fretting over what the bishops are or are not doing, and focus on carrying out their own duty – that is, to condemn in no uncertain terms, by name, both the heresies and the heretics who are spreading them – even if doing so invites persecution.
They’d probably get more results if they wrote to this letter to the local Imams and asked them to name the Francis.
I’m sure the Bishops, not wanting to be left out of the ecumenicist circle will follow suit. We all know it was never the Pope or Christ who led them, but the world, and right now, Islam’s heirarchy of influence is at an all time high with this crowd, even putting the homosexuals down to second place!
This is why in Canada, Islamic children in school can comfortably avoid liberal immoral sex-ed courses that Catholic children are forced to take! There will be no flying of LGBT rainbows over there, but the rest of us must remember to salute.
Yet another PR ploy by Francis’ Vatican knowing full well that the previous Papacies of ,JP2 and Benedict encouraged the Bishops to transfer and cover up for clerical pederasts.
https://apnews.com/33b208ef4bc84576a503b059629607db/Chile%27s-bishops-resign-en-masse-over-sex-abuse-cover-up
All 31 active Chilean Bishops offering to resign???? All out of some huge sense of shame and responsibility for what they’ve been just fine with for the past how many years? Something is really weird here. I’m not buying it.
Linda the way I read it they are ticked off that the Vatican has been publicly shifting the blame onto Bishops for transferring and covering up for clerical pedophiles. Ratzinger as head of the CDF under JP2 sent letters out to one Bishop who literally begged to defrock a pedophile priest telling him,” For the good of the Church and since the priest was young just transfer him.” That was the serial pedophile Kiesle.
” But additional reporting in April complicated the matter further. American newspapers and the AP produced another story raising questions about the narrative of Ratzinger as hero, complete with a trail of documents including letters that he had signed in the 1980s. This was the lengthy saga of an Oakland priest named Stephen Kiesle, whose case languished for much of the decade in Ratzinger’s CDF.
In 1978, Kiesle pleaded guilty to charges of molesting two boys, ages 11 and 12, in his rectory. In 1981, Oakland bishop John Cummins passed on to Rome a request for laicization that originated with Kiesle himself. Four years later, Cummins received a letter from Ratzinger saying he needed more time and that “the good of the church” had to be considered in the final decision.”
The bishops in Chile are angry that Borgoglio is making an example of them when all along the Vatican had been encouraging them for decades just to transfer the Chester molesters to avoid scandal thus, losing pew payers.
“As the scandal has deepened,” the New York Times’ Goodstein and Michael Luo reported on April 10, “the pope’s defenders have said that, well before elected pope in 2005, he grew ever more concerned about the scandal and weeding out pedophile priests. But the case of the Rev. Stephen Kiesle, and the trail of documents…shows that, in this period, at least, his concern seemed much more avoiding scandal in the church.”
http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/RINVol13No1/Losing%20Patience%20with%20the%20Vatican.htm
Oh, dem bones dem bones, here dey come, right out the closet do’, rattlin right out, just when you think they are dead and buried! If those bones come out, let em come! Let the church own what’s it’s done for lo these many years, how many boys and young men were corrupted and what did they suffer all these years from our own perverted perverts, and yes, we own those skeletons, they’re our Catholic priests and bishops and God knows what else.
What sustains God’s arm, I am sure I do not know. But it is impossible to argue with Protestants about the Roman Catholic Church. But whatever comes, I know this, those actors in Rome will put on a good show of outrage, and there will be platitudes and apologies, long faces and sackcloth and ashes, but it is means zero, absolutely nothing. It’s all show, it’s all meaningless, they are only sorry they got caught, there’s no change to seminaries, and the next day it will be back to “who am I to judge” and all the rest of the malarkey. Oh feh, I’m entirely sick of them all.
Does anybody get this yet?
https://apnews.com/33b208ef4bc84576a503b059629607db/Chile%27s-bishops-resign-en-masse-over-sex-abuse-cover-up
The way I see the it.
First Borgolio says the abuse victims are guilty of calumny when they tell him Bishop Barros was there watching them being sodomized. It creates an international publicity nightmare. So then Borgolio send Archbishop Scicluna of Malta over to Chile to investigate. He tells Borgolio what they state is credible . Then Borgolio invites the victims to Vatican for a sit down chat and apologizes.
ArrchBishop Scicluna is famous for telling the Vatican the Bishops should be held accountable. BUT no one seems to get that ultimately it is the VATICAN who gets rid of these perps or not and the Vatican has a history of dragging it’s collective footsies and cautioning the Bishops to avoid scandal at all costs………..Hence, all the secret payoffs and transfers and repeated abuses.
The Bishops in Chile are rightly ticked off.
Does anyone here understand this?
Evangeline well stated! You get it !
Never forget that the snake eats it’s own tale and consumes itself in the end.
The only document which should be signed by Bishops, priests and all clergy to be presented to Bergoglio is an eviction notice.
Louie,
“pusillanimous” is an excellent adjective for all of them including Burke himself.
Anyone else need to look up the word? I did.
Recall this?
“In January 2015, the Pope provoked outcries when he named Bishop Juan de la Cruz Barros Madrid to head the Osorno diocese. Bishop Barros had been a close friend of Father Fernando Karadima, a priest convicted on multiple charges of sexual abuse. As public protests against the Barros appointment arose, a group of Chilean bishops wrote to the Pope, urging him to reconsider his choice.”
“At the time of the appointment in Osorno, the Vatican announced that Pope Francis was fully briefed on the facts regarding the ties between Bishops Barros and Father Karadima, and was persuaded that the bishop was innocent. The Pontiff said in 2015 that the complaints against Bishop Barros were “unfounded allegations of the leftists,” and expressed regret that public opinion had been “carried away by the garbage everybody says.”
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=34903
And Borgoglio warns us about “FAKE NEWS”???
Perhaps he should clean his own stables out of his pro LGBTQ hand
selected advisors, like Fr James Martin and homoerotic art lover the Pontifical Academy for a Sinful Death , own ArchBishop Paglia.
Okay thanks for the history on the case and I do understand what you are saying. I still think they could have done something more all those years though. Just my feeling.
Linda , You are most welcome and I agree with you, but that is because they are ALL “Pusillanimous”as Louie so rightly points out !
Linda, and Vox agrees.
http://voxcantor.blogspot.com/
IMHO a disgusting and stupidly transparent PR stunt staged
on someone’s advice and authority by the Vatican ,which clearly demonstrates how ignorant they believe the Catholic laity to be.
Our Lady of Good Success , LaSalette and Fatima ,
Pray for US !!!
sweep–I clicked on the Voxcantor link above. The close up shot of Bergoglio almost made me jump out of my seat. It’s enough to give someone nightmares. Am I exaggerating?
Louie , I am truly sorry to have capitalized on this latest news report away from your blog topic post. I do hope you give us your expert analysis and opinion on the Chilean events . My impression from my own reading has been that for a very long time the Vatican has been more concerned about the image of the institution and particular personages occupying positions of power , rather than the salvation of souls as the Church was charged with by Jesus Himself.
2 Cents, yes the picture is creepy as are many of the photo ops that seem to be designed to portray some kind of impression for the viewer.
It is too difficult a task to please all the groups, all the politicians and all the factions in a severely polarized and fractured global Church.
Now is the time to pick up the Word of God , look back to the Early Church Fathers and focus on God’s Truths without trying to twist it to fit the cultural trends in a world driven mad by the evil of it’s rationalized sins. Mammon will not save the church institution in the end, only God will with Our Holy Mother’s intercessions through our tears and rosaries.
Agreed. There’s something else going on. It stinks to high heaven.
Louie, I admit I did not know the full meaning of the word “pusillanimous”. However, when I looked it up in the dictionary, I couldn’t help but think of Bishop Fellay, who, if he were a true warrior and leader, could have made the SSPX a force to be reckoned with in the battle with Christ’s enemies. What a great loss! Soldiers who never enter the battlefield, but keep their beds made according to military regulations and keep their boots shined. No way to win a war. The N.O. V2 church will not give us the warriors. SSPX will not. Who will?
And with all of this happening, Bergoglio is preparing, yet again, to stack the College of Cardinals with more Masonic cronies.
Bp Fellay is trying to serve two masters. On the one hand he must placate the SSPX clergy and pewsitters and on the other hand he must not offend Rome. He has painted himself and the Society into a corner. Our Lord said that one cannot serve two masters. Bp Fellay has forgotten this basic lesson.
And when the next “pope” is worse than the last, then what?
Tom A–I agree with you to a certain extent. However, there are a number of SSPX clergy and pewsitters who want the SSPX to hold their ground and fight Rome without worrying about offending anyone. The chapel in my area has lost 100 parishioners, so I am told. In any event, Fellay has definitely painted himself and the SSPX into a corner (well said). Will the election of a new Superior General in July make a difference? Only time will tell.
I think what is really bad is that the next pope could be much better than Bergoglio. I’ve read an uncountable number of comments saying that even a Billy Graham would be more Catholic than Bergoglio and I think that’s true. The real problem is how do we get the actual Catholic faith back, whole and entire and make it indefectible AGAIN? That last sentence I just made doesn’t even make sense, not to be an alarmist. And very few people are on the same page about even getting to the crux of the problem. How do we get back to indefectible when that very concept belies the meaning of the word “indefectible?” We could just forget about the fact that the last SIX popes were questionably even Catholic and implement a military solution as Mary suggests but Catholics are not united. Catholics are a really weird diaspora now, ranging from Communist Novus Ordo to sedevacantist and what’s in between varies wildly. It’s crazy; I can’t in my wildest imagination picture a solution to this. I wish I could be like Blunderbuss and just chalk it all up to people stink sometimes, even the Pope, but I don’t know how he overlooks the fact the teaching of the Church is supposed to be true.
I agree with a lot of what you said although I can’t go as far as saying Billy Graham is Catholic in any sense.
That said, I actually think it would be worse if the next “pope” was someone like Benedict or Mueller or Burke because then Novus Ordites will foolishly think the Church has been restored and remain blind to what has been happening for decades.
I’m so sorry too, but did you all hear that Bergoglio just said that God made that Karadima abuse victim gay?!!! A Catholic Priest made the kid gay and this evil sob says that GOD made him gay. I think these poor kids become gay just so they don’t have to kill somebody, to be honest. This is horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. My head is going to explode. I’m going require a Pinterest break for a week so I don’t lose my mind. God please, give us SOMETHING, please.
Lord Have Mercy! Today they are reporting today that Borgolio told the one Chilean victim of clerical pederasty that ,”God Made him gay”!
Couldn’t have been psycho sexual trauma from sodomite rape by adult men ?
No no ! Jorje said he loves him and is blaming God for his gender confusion and not his sodomite priest adult rapists.
http://voxcantor.blogspot.com/
Did God make Bergoglio stupid?
Guess who is celebrating all over the www?
https://www.facebook.com/FrJamesMartin/posts/10155314223036496
https://twitter.com/JamesMartinSJ/status/997850895315546112
Wow, I really thought they’d try to back away from this one, say he wasn’t recorded or something. These people just have the pedal to the metal and nobody is standing in the way. Martin SJ is their communications guy, his job is to get the word out that the “Pope” says sodomites are born that way. They are literally spreading a false Gospel, so so bad. I just really can’t believe this is happening. And THIS specific sodomite was sexually abused by a PRIEST; he was corrupted and robbed of his innocent by some animal who was supposed to be Alter Christi. Their brazenness is truely breathtaking.
That comment from the Heretic in chief is enough to make me vomit or grab my pitchfork and head to Rome or both.
I’m confused. Isn’t this effectively what the Novus Ordo church has been saying all along?
2 Cents ,
At first I chuckled and then I thought, I have to really think about this one.
Perhaps all he does and says is by design and he is not just intentionally stupid but intentionally devious with a very evil agenda in mind.
I really do not know however, I remember looking right into Malachi Martin’s
eyes when he told me he really felt so sorry for the young people who would try to raise their children Catholic in the next millennium. For all the “double agent ” accusations , I knew in that moment he was telling me the truth.
He also told me he would not live to see it but it will be very hard for Catholics.
It has been and continues to be, and at this juncture I am convinced Borgoglio is not Catholic or professed Christian at all. It is one thing to be a bad Pope or an anti pope , but I believe he is something entirely different such as we have never seen in the history of the Church and we have had some pretty bad actors before on the Chair of Peter. As time unfolds we will know for sure.
He just blasphemed God to the world and Our God will not be mocked for very long.
Well, the Novus Ordo church is getting worse and worse and the Catholic Church was crucified I guess and everything is going to Hell in a handcart and it’s very upsetting. Just because you think Bergoglio is an imposter doesn’t mean his actions don’t affect the entire world, this is very bad.
And where did I say his actions don’t affect the entire world and that this isn’t bad? My point was that I don’t see his comments all that different than what the post Vatican II church has been saying all along. Don’t take your frustration out on me just because I “think Bergoglio is an imposter” (ie. just because I am a sedevacantist).
I didn’t mean to sound like I was taking frustration out on you, I suppose I’m a sedevacantist as well. I will say that sometimes sedevacantists maybe in an effort to stress that whatever error occurring is not that of Catholicism but that of an imposter church, make it sound a little bit like to hell with them, they’re Novus Ordo. If the Novus Ordo church taught that people were born sodomites and they should be happy about it, I honestly never new that. I think it’s a little disingenuous to act like this isn’t something new and shocking but whatever, I don’t know what the heck is going on. I’ve been Catholic even when I was at a Novus Ordo Church, did I make up my own religion that was different from Novus Ordo? No wonder everyone hates sedevacantists.
“No wonder everyone hates sedevacantists.”
I honestly don’t get you. One minute you say you are sede and then you say this. Huh?
“If the Novus Ordo church taught that people were born sodomites and they should be happy about it, I honestly never knew that. ”
I’m not saying that this *is * what they teach *officially*. I’m questioning whether what the Novus Ordo church teaches in practice is really all that different. No one can argue that there has been a huge softening towards those with “same sex attraction” in the post Vatican II church documents compared to before Vatican II.
OK, so wait a minute here. I assumed what you reported is what Francis actually said. After reading the link you provided I can’t make heads or tails of who is saying what. Did Francis actually say that “God made [this man] gay” ? I’m not so sure that he actually said this….even though it is quite believable.
But all of this is entirely predictable, and I say, necessary when truth is replaced with deceit. How in the world could anything be different if you understand Modernism?
Melanie: The first edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church included a statement that people who were homosexual did not have a choice. That sentence was eliminated in the rewrite. I’m sorry I no longer have a copy of the first edition (I threw it in the garbage) but know it was there and honestly, was more than shocked.
I love morons that think homosexuality is a choice. Really?
As a man, I would rather be tortured than have sex with another man. The very idea is revolting. Does that mean my heterosexuality is a choice?
Recall that Pope St. Pius X spelled out extensively the methods and goals of the Modernists in his encyclical, Pascendi Dominici Gregis and said: “their system means the destruction of not of the Catholic religion alone, but of all religion.”
Bergoglio could not carry out his work if his predecessor Modernists had not also done their part. All in their own way, they established the foundation necessary for the eventual destruction of religion and Bergoglio is simply carrying on with their plans.
I picked up a copy of the CCC years ago. Actually it was given to me when a friend could not sell it. .
At some point in the past 7 years I picked it up to take a good look at just who was involved in it’s compilation. It is oft quoted on the Voris site so I was a bit curious.
When I spotted Bishop James McHugh’s name whom I knew all too well, I walked right out to the trash can and deposited it within.
Not really, it just may mean you were not the pre adolescent or adolescent victim of a sodomite pederast’s repeated abuse that left you with a psycho sexual traumatic case of gender confusion or, that you were not repeatedly bullied by siblings or a parent figure who labeled you as “gay”growing up so that you thought perhaps you should look for a male partner to feel accepted.
The fact that you choose to sound off as being machismo though, could indicate something.
God did not design the human male’s genitalia however, to deposit it’s seed in someone’s feces.
Common sense is not all that common anymore.In fact , it is becoming scarcer every day.
Melanie. You have the Faith as taught prior to 1958. You also have the Rosary. Between the two you have what is needed for salvation. You have more than most souls who ever lived could have hoped for. You have two treasures beyond all human value. While we do not have the apparent Church structure that our forefathers enjoyed, we still have enough.
Melanie, I think everyone hates sedevacantists because we are right and they cannot logically defend their position. In all arguments with non sedes, we are eventually attacked ad homenim or simply deleted or banned. The most vile opponents of sedes are usually fellow trads.
Have you ever met an actual Real Live Gay? Have you ever been bullied? Did it turn you gay? The most bullied guy I’ve ever met did the opposite of “turn gay” – he put two of his antagonists in the hospital. The most horribly molested guy I’ve ever met isn’t gay and devotes his free time to pushing for tougher jail sentences for molesters. And how exactly do lesbians fit into your world?
I laugh every time people rant about gays being astoundingly promiscuous and breathlessly decry the depravity of what happens in gay culture and put it all down to their being “perverts”. It’s because it’s two guys, not because they’re gay. If women were as willing to hop into bed as men are, the stuff that people like Sciambra and Engel sensationalize would go on in every single non-gay bar in the world, only it would be men and women instead of men and men. (Go to a bar and see how heterosexuals hook up and pair off, by the way.) And really crazy heterosexual stuff actually does go on in plenty of places – you just have to pay to get exactly what you want it if you’re a guy.
You’re blindly repeating stuff you’ve read online.
No Blunder boy,
I retired after caring for the dying. Heard more than a few confessions of poor ravaged souls on their deathbeds, including priests. Your commentary above is indicative of your own chosen lifestyle experiences .
Just a thought BlunderBoy,
Do you know why they called AIDs a politically protected disease? I filled out more than my share of death certs and even though a client may have passed as a direct result of AIDs , it was required that the cert only named the secondary immediate opportunistic infection that brought about the death.
Yes you bar hopping toad , I met more than my share of homosexuals.WITHOUT exception they all recanted their first experience with sex. They “…..knew they must have been gay …, when the priest , or other older male sodomized them and found them attractive.”
Maybe you missed out because you were not a cute little boy?
Randy Engel is spot on about the causes and btw , so is Joseph Scambria.
Borgoglio on the other hand , has too many prelates and a UN whose feathers he is busy preening.
I suggest Blunder and anyone else read this excellent article. Blunder share it with the porn addicted guys you know from the bars.There might be still be hope for some who do have children and poor wives they abuse at home.
http://josephsciambra.com/homosexuality-as-the-universal-untreated-mental-illness/
Every single Physician I knew who told me they had patients who were victims of sexual abuse as youths , also stipulated their patients had trouble with normal relationships as adults. The root cause they identified was a traumatic sense of rejection from any significant other directly related to the sexual abuse they experienced as children. They continually transferred the same emotion onto their present partners and had trouble maintaining any lifelong loving relationship and deep depression an anxiety plagued their lives unless they accepted lengthy therapy.
Now a question for YOU Blunder. Did YOU ever know any school shooters personally? Why do you think THAT is on the rise in this country?
Maybe they were all BORN THAT WAY ?
Anything that doesn’t fit your worldview seems to trigger some very – er – passionate responses. This “bar-hopping toad” (as you put it) isn’t offended, merely confused. You seem to have embraced the dark vision that nearly everyone is a sex-crazed maniac out to molest kids. Or that school shooters are gay or molestation victims? I can’t tell. The notion of AIDS as “politically protected” is absurd. Public numbers were always available and in the news. Twenty years ago, you were probably promoting the hysteria that you could very easily catch AIDS – kisses, surface, etc.
You’re right that abuse damages victims’ ability to form relationships, but that’s true for male or female, gay or straight victims. Statistically, they’re also far more likely to become molsters themselves, according to police stats.
Even the Church acknowledges that some people just naturally have “inclinations” toward homosexuality. Why can’t you?
sweep-You bring up a very good point. How many young boys become homosexual because their first sexual experience was due to an encounter with a man who was abusing them? To think that this disgusting experience was with a priest makes it even more horrific. Can a pedophile be cured of this disordered tendency? We know by now that the Catholic Church was and still is infiltrated by gay men who were, in fact, knowingly invited into the seminaries. On the other hand, straight men who entered the seminaries to discern their vocations were either shown the door or left the seminary because they realized they did not fit the mold more acceptable to the disordered sick “catholic” church. Is this “the cesspool” Our Lady warned us about? Where did this demonic infestation come from? I shudder to think of the immense damage done to innocent young boys for decades. Heaven help us!
You two are getting all caught up in the internal forum of people who engage in sodomy. Christ called those people sodomites. They choose with their will to conduct such acts. These acts are sinful and destroy ordered society. The Church and the State have the duty and Authority from God to protect souls and social order. Neither of them do anymore. Except in Muslim lands.
Psalm 106 …
27 They were troubled, and reeled like a drunken man; and all their wisdom was swallowed up.
28 And they cried to the Lord in their affliction: and he brought them out of their distresses.
29 And he turned the storm into a breeze: and its waves were still.
Simply because that is BLASPHEMY against the Natural Law of God. You live under a worldly propaganda delusion.
2 Cents, You ask where did this demonic infestation come from?
Search the Scriptures. There is a clear warning against masturbation. It is written that it is better for your seed to go into the belly of a whore than to be spilled on the ground. The Word of God goes on further to explain that this is because more happens to man than just the act itself.
The mind invites into the soul the demonic, through the gateway of the imagination by meditating on that which has been forbidden and condemned by God. Martin chronicled one such possession and exorcism in “Hostage to the Devil “.
Be forewarned that now even in the Parochial schools they are teaching students the means to invite demonic possession and destroy their souls.
Practically speaking so that even Blunder can comprehend, pornography incites illicit desires, it is one of the primary root causes now in divorce. It is recognized as a bona fide addiction.
https://onemadmomblog.wordpress.com/tag/fr-peter-stravinskas/
…….Now what I know for a fact from a Cisturcian Monk whose Order’s Fatima chapel is where I attended daily Mass back in the eighties and early nineties.
He continually asked us to write to our State Reps against proposed sex ed K-12. i as did others did and suddenly he no longer reminded us. He must have recognized my perplexed expression so he waited in the parking lot and before I got into my car he called me over. He told me the Bishops in NJ lobbied for sex ed K-12 to be taught in the Public Schools under the direction of Bishop James McHugh. A year or two later I was coerced by several mothers to attend a meeting McHugh sponsored in his parishes all over his Diocese.
There his pro life ( joke title) office employee handed out pamphlets with crude drawings of sodomite practices with literal definitions to all the parents and grandparents present. They were warned that this is what sex ed will be like for their children in the public schools so they should enroll their children in Parochial schools on the spot and said ,”Your children will also be given condoms to prevent HIV.” Afterwards ,audience member were invited to the microphone to comment which I was urged to do. I offered an alternative which was Catholic Homeschooling . I explained about recent discoveries concerning HIV transmission . A man jumped up screaming I did not know what I was talking about. In response another older man stood ,trned around to him and explained he had been a Pediatrician for thirty years in Haddonfield and this woman is exactly correct on the facts !
The next day the phone rang and a Pallotine pastor from an entirely different Church who was not even present the day before, congratulated me for thwarting McHugh’s plan to increase enrollment in his schools. He told me when Mchugh arrived after I left and enraged by the turn of events he fired his Parochial School Superintendent on the spot( the man who stood up and challenged me)
…….a year or two later I sat across from Fr Hardon discussing the attempts of Stravinskas and others to control home schoolers by using a ploy of Sacramental Guidelines to ostracize them from the sacraments. Fr Hardon suggested, “Building bridges with your Bishops.”At which point i replied, “With all due respect Father ,we tried that with their filthy sex ed in the Catholic schools.” He just put his head down and looked embarrassed. He knew.
Yes this is what our disgusting aberrosexual Bishops thought about doing to im
prove their financial bottom line. In hindsight, I am sure they themselves were well educated in sexual perversions . How else could they have designed that perverted tell all sodomite how to ,hand sketched booklet?
Parents are still fighting the same battles.
https://onemadmomblog.wordpress.com/tag/fr-peter-stravinskas/
Now we have an alleged Pope who blasphemes God !
The Talmudic Jews who want to impose Noahide laws on Gentiles and their subservient freemasons seek demoralization and degenerecy to destroy faith in Christ. Sodomy fits the bill in spades for these subverters. Sodomy was introduced to the Catholic Church, encouraged and is now almost expected in the clergy. This is something that only an enemy of Christ would want in the Church.
For further reading on the late so called “pro Life “Bishop McHugh…….
http://www.newengelpublishing.com/products/McHugh-Chronicles.html
For an entertainment view of one of McHugh’s merry boyz .
Here was one of his favorites whom he sent as a catholic priest rep to the UN.
After McHugh died in Rockville Center NY of the same disease as his friend Cdl Bernadin, Fr Marucci donned his outed identity for the world because he lost his Bishop protector.Look at the expressions on the face of his poor mother who must have been so proud to have two Ordained sons become priests. One is still a priest in the Diocese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2NLRCstr8
You disgusted me with your assumptions that men naturally are inclined towards sexual aberration . Do you speak for yourself Blunder ?
I was waiting for someone to non sequiturially blame the Jews. Normally that is handled by Reichsleiter Herr AdolphusJr, but way to step up and make sure this combox didn’t lack for bigoted propaganda. Did you hear this from TradCatNut, by any chance?
Most men, myself and all here included, are naturally inclined toward wanting sex and lots of it. This is found in many – actually all – species besides Homo Sapiens (or perhaps you would prefer “Hetero Sapiens”? lol) If offered the chance of frequent anonymous sex with many random women, no heterosexual man would turn it down if he were simply following his natural inclinations. But most women do not prefer this, and this naturally puts the brakes on this sort of behavior, as does societal structure and most religions. Denying how men think is just silly and the Church doesn’t deny it. It simply says that we are not animals and should control our desires and inclinations.
What was that about HIV transmission?
If your argument is that masturbation leads to homosexuality (is it? I can’t tell…) then the human race would not have lasted very long at all.
Not so and not what the Church teaches, either. The Church teaches that different people do have different inclinations toward different vices, be it homosexuality, unsanctioned hetetosexuality, gluttony, alcoholism, anger, etc. in fact, the church urges special compassion toward those with this particular inclination and you instead argue for special stigmatization. You are choosing to declare – based upon a few fringe positions, and against scientific consensus and Church teaching – homosexuality solely a product of nurture and exclude nature entirely. You are conflating natural law with fallen human nature.
Blunder blunder blunder.
Perhaps you can explain the astounding increase in the call for Exorcists?
Re: masturbation, everyone does it so it is okay , right Blunder?
Speaking for yourself?
Dr Omar Bagasra leading Retrovirologist and researcher at Jefferson Hospital published his findings way back in the nineties regarding the suppression of T cells in human saliva from consumption of only a moderate amount of alcoholic beverages over one weekend which were proven to have a lasting effect in the blood for days. Licensed medical professionals must continue to take ongoing CEUs on the spread of HIV ,especially in certain states where the virus is spreading exponentially. Medications are expensive and can only suppress the virus but cannot cure it because it is a retro virus which means it continually morphs .
Keep enjoying life hanging out at the bars with your friends who can attain any kind of sex hey want Blunder!
WHO???
Mary , no more pearls for swine. Waste of time .
Blunder you are here by on notice your stupidity is being ignored by certain comment posters. Are you even a Catholic?
May you glean some piece of knowledge from people who know more than you. Put down the beer can and just keep reading !
Another appeal going nowhere.
Bergoglio just named 14 new cardinals. With the new nominations, the number of cardinal-electors who can vote for the next pope will be 125 and almost half of them elected by Bergoglio. Add the 47 created by Ratzinger, the 19 created by Wojtyla and you can guess that the Modernists aren’t going to be worried about losing power.
I think we can reasonably replace the word “Modernist” now with the clearer definition, “agents of the antichrist”.
A word about them that has fallen into the stop thought phrase “conspiracy theory”.
I met the Retrovirologist mentioned above on the invitation of a priest in a private meeting with a few others.. He showed us slides of his research and someone asked if the disease was man made or naturally occurring. He gave us a detailed explanation . Coincidentally it matched a recent totally unsolicited letter I received in the mail . I shared it with a friend at the time and she sat next to me during this presentation. She kept elbowing me throughout the entire lecture because the information from the microbiologist matched the conclusions in the letter.I asked him why he does not speak about this on a major public platform. His answer was simply that he will lose all his funding.
http://healingtools.tripod.com/who_africa.html
This was also about the time Fr Paul Marx of HLI, was also being heavily criticized for publishing information concerning Tetanus contaminated vaccines findings that caused spontaneous miscarriages and infertility in women in island nations in the Pacific. He was later removed from his life’s work in preserving Life in combating abortion , eugenics and artificial birth control and sent back to his Order . The Truth is certainly stranger than fiction and much more frightening.
Randy Engel encouraged her Pediatrician to make this public.
For years she said he thought she was repeating conspiracy theory in her own findings , until he went to a seminar for General Practitioners and Pediatricians.
Suddenly his eyes were opened because she had kept talking to him about her research and her words were confirmed spades . She encouraged him to make it public. What resulted was ‘The New Order of the Barbarians” , I hope you will read it in full.
https://www.amazon.com/New-Order-Barbarians-World-System/dp/1484809971
Here Randy narrates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qUQgsR4n8E
Thank you Sweep for this info from Randy. I will get it Wrt the new cardinals, I will say this… there is a good reason for a new inquisition, and the infiltration of the Church is that reason. It’s not necessary that ordinary Catholics be tested as to their faith, but it is absolutely necessary that anyone who calls himself a priest be an agent of Christ, and not the devil. The need to wake up Catholic Europeans is more urgent than ever, and in particular those who clearly see the EU as the enemy and the need for a pope who would be the champion of Christians, and not a champion of the New World Order. These Catholic Europeans would be doing themselves a favor by evicting Francis from the papal throne on both the temporal as well as the spiritual plane.
Right, everyone knows AIDS can’t be cured. But it can now be managed pretty well. I would love to know in what states AIDS is “exploding exponentially”, especially outside of the gay community and drug users. Or is there a massive conspiracy at work to pretend AIDS doesn’t exist?
I’m quite Catholic. So Catholic that I find it it unacceptable to spread anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to other Catholics.
“If offered the chance of frequent anonymous sex with many random women, no heterosexual man would turn it down if he were simply following his natural inclinations.”
This theory is simply not true in practice. Men get bored and eventually want a relationship with depth.
I have only one question for you Blunder. Do you worship the same merciful God that the Muslims do?
True. Right about the time young women no longer find them attractive.
ISIS sez kill gays. AdolphusJr sez kill gays. I worship the God who says don’t.
This is a video of a dude proposing to another dude. How does that McHugh and Bernadine died from AIDS, outside of your own mind?
Note to Francis and anyone else who believes people are “born gay”.
http://www.pagadiandiocese.org/2017/12/12/no-science-behind-gay-gene-theory-research-from-johns-hopkins-university-shows-no-one-is-born-that-way/
Here Randy – an alleged journalist – talks about how supposed noted on napkins full of absolutely devastatingly explosive revelations have at last come to light after being hidden because, you know, the only guy who wrote down or remembered any of the explosive New World Order population control plans happened to be too busy for 20 years to share them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3ZbPb0NuU
Right.
Ok.
So. Credible.
There is an enormous amount of evil in this world. No need to make up more.
Malachi Martin was a great writer and a helluva storyteller. The Apocalypse has not happened in nearly 20 years since his death. He was not a prophet.
What is your point in life? I personally believe that you are either surely of Satan OR that you are currently lost and in need of a kick in the rear-end. Of the two options that I put forth I believe that you are evil (Ive read many of your posts). I would encourage anyone who reads your posts to denounce you. Your voice should be rejected as it currently speaks. You are no good right now.
Kathrine , Although I personally do not ascribe to reading this man’s blog ,
listen carefully to what this man is saying about Cardinals of influence. He does make some good points by way of observations. I came away from watching in fear of just who will be electing the next alleged Pope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=568&v=TR22T_8vwfc
I do not care about your squabble about sodomites. You call yourself Catholic, but are you? You speak like a modernist. A typial modernist ploy is ambiguity and avoiding direct questions (see Pascendi). Your answer to my question demonstrates your modernism. If you were truly Catholic you would have easily said no and rejected the false V2 teaching on false religions having elements of salvation. If you were honest you woild have answered yes affirming yoir modernism. You answered neither affirming your dishonesty. and your modernism.
The question is quite serious Blunder because the pre V2 teaching was NO and the post V2 teaching was YES. Both cannot be right.
Blunder is getting a lot of attention on Louie’s blog. He loves the attention. It feeds his ego. May I suggest ignoring his comments and return to the topic as presented by Louie. Thank you and God bless.
You need to pluralize your questions. There is no single individual behind “Blunderbuss” but several paid trolls. It is likely these trolls are funded by the SPLC. “Blunderbuss’ ” comments consistently and clearly differ across AKA posts in writing style and attitude. You can see the different Blunderbusses always end up diverting the conversations in the comment sections away from the issue at hand, and towards a much different agenda: Homophobia and anti-Semitism.
sweepoutthefilth: What do all those who have power do but elevate to positions those who they believe share the same goals and are trustworthy to ensure their success? When the powerful are Godly and upright and their goal is to increase the Kingdom of God, it is entirely different when they are ungodly, corrupt, and serving Satan.
The success of the Revolution against Christ and His Church depends upon the Modernist anti-Christ’s to remain in power. The best way to accomplish that is to make their own the future leaders and when you have possibly the worse anti-Christ of them all sitting in the Chair of Peter (who knows, there might be a succession of “Francises” worse than the current one), their future seems pretty secure. Until this Revolution, as all others, is ended either in our lifetimes or the future.
I agree, this guy is multiple trolls. Sent here to cause doubt and dissension. I can imagine the troll center he writes from.
LennyB – you clever man, you’ve figured out that we’re really 50 Jews and Freemasons sitting in a room trolling while George Soros showers us with money. Also we’re all gay.
Or…
I’m a serious Catholic who firmly believes that you can be Catholic and a Traditonalist without being a bigot or tying your faith and worldview to insane conspiracy theories, or false, dubious, or entirely fabricated prophecies and self-declared prophets. A serious Catholic who thinks that this sort of behavior is harmful to Traditon and to Catholicism as a whole and needs to stop. A serious Catholic who recognizes that the One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church is composed of 70% minorities and that that is a wonderful thing because it means the Faith is indeed reaching everyone. It also means that viewing it through a white Euro-American lens is absurd. And that God isn’t making decisions about ending the world solely based upon what the white minority of the Church does. In other words, a normal Catholic who relies on reason and faith and doesn’t believe that they’re mutually incompatible.
2 Cents, actually all these posts are connected to Louie’s topic. “Pussilanimous”has to do with timidity, lacking courage which are oft associated with limp wristed effeminate males. Sadly , this is what has been attracted to , and encouraged to enter our seminaries for over half a century while matured hetero Godly men have been barred from entrance. There have been studies done on these poor souls who are stunted in their emotional and sexual maturity. Not all sodomites are limp wrist or effeminate flirts in demeanor. Quite a few are bisexuals. Celibacy requires a commitment that stems from a mature well developed individual . While I do not agree with all of Richard’s conclusions, I concur with him on this point.
http://www.awrsipe.com/Docs_and_Controversy/Remove-the-Plank.pdf
Recently I read a direct quote alleged to have come from Bishop Hubbard in which he rationalized sodomy between males as not violating the vow of celibacy, because it did not involve sex with women. Similar thought to the immature posts on sexuality and Catholicism by several alleged males commentators above.
Sadly, this has been the prevalent rationalization among much of the aberrosexual clerical minds.
To stand up against the confusion and heretical thought that is so pervasive in the institutional church , it takes courage. Well educated mature Godly courage which is sorely lacking in all of society , especially in a narcissistic clerical careerist culture. To risk their income pension and identity is in most cases , too much to ask for.
May God Bless all the priests , religious and laity who have been whistle blowers for the protection of the innocent and God’s Truths.
Agreed, the succession of Vatican Two Popes has been leading the Faithful in one direction.
Hell.
God in His Mercy has been removing the veil off of Borgolio .
Previous Vatican administrations have been more cloaked .
Those who profess the Faith who choose to see can make informed and educated decisions.
BTW, on Oct 14th , they will be elevating one of their own to Sainthood.
“fr” James Martin, Cdls Dolan and Wuerl will sure to be celebrating although, the two Cdl friends do not have the option to do so on one of their favorite PR platforms , the “Charlie Rose Show”, where they made more than one appearance together promoting their hero Borgoglio.
sweep–I agree with what you say. However, I still feel Blunder gets too much attention. I think he loves it and keeps coming back for more. I agree with Lenny B. above.
Couldn’t care less about attention. Please see above regarding my Soros-funded, 33rd Degree FreeGaysonic cabal that is trolling this site.
You two started with the anti-gay stuff. Much like others start with anti-Semitic remarks. I’m merely presenting the Catholic viewpoint, in contrast to your remarks.
Awwww, all worked up in a lather. Your palms must be all hairy with rage. Move along out of this blog now and go do what you do best: defend known pedophiles.