As I recently commented, if I was foolish enough to place a bet on when the “formal act of correction” (discussed HERE) is going to happen, my money would be on some time shortly after September 19th – the one year anniversary of the dubia’s issuance.
Well, that anniversary will arrive two weeks from today. So… let the countdown begin!
Starting today, just for fun (even though there isn’t much fun to be had with respect to Amoris Laetitia and its assorted heresies and blasphemies), you will see a countdown on the upper right hand side of the page set for midnight, September 19, Rome time.
From that point forward; until the correction actually takes place, we’ll start counting up to see how much longer it takes Cardinal Burke to do as he promised.
Then again, given that it has since come to light that Cardinal Burke apparently believes (as discussed HERE) that the consecration of Russia “has been done just as Our Lady asked, on 25 March 1984” as purportedly stated by Sr. Lucia herself (not!), maybe he’ll decide just to wait for that period of peace that she promised…
In any case, if and when the correction is issued, we’ll reset the timer to see just how long it takes His Humbleness to respond. (Remember, Cardinal Burke said that Francis would be “obligated” to do so!)
So, what do you think: Is the “formal act of correction” actually going to be issued? If so, will Francis the Loquacious respond or remain silent? If the latter, what do you think will happen from there?
Say what you will about the times in which we live, but one thing is certain; they are interesting indeed!
How anyone can allege that both the Third Secret & the Consecration of Russia have been carried out beggars belief. Both these instructions from Our Blessed Lady have been wilfully ignored by consecutive Popes & Hierarchies since they were made. It is all politicking nonsense to suggest otherwise. The shepherds we have had for decades have been monstrous. Few show any fear or love for God & His Word & since VII when evangelisation was ended, as it would offend the schismatics (false ecumenism), nothing but harm has endured. The Old Rite liturgy has been trashed, churches turned into meeting houses, lay men & women appointed as Readers & Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist, the priesthood sodomised leading to the worldwide Child Abuse Scandal, the Satanic NWO promulgating Adultery, Abortion, SSM, Euthanasia, forfeiture of Parental Rights, purposeful Islamisation of Europe etc.etc. How in heaven’s name can anyone with sincerity state that these events have taken place? Our Lady has promised that Her Triumph will follow upon the Consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart – what we are witnessing is anything but Her Triumph.
I believe that ++Burke is himself now obligated to get on with issuing the formal correction whether he likes it or not. It should have been delivered nine months ago. Many souls have been affected by the implementation of AL in those Dioceses that have interpreted the document in line with the present incumbent of the Papal Office. The Dubia Cardinals will have to bear a lot of responsibility for allowing this matter to take hold instead of nipping it in the bud.
Wanna, did you mean ” How one can not agree ” those things have come to pass?
It’s more than that the Gestapo crowd controllers have constructed new edifices in which to hold satanic rituals., all the while mocking Christ Jesus. Take the blasphemous Cross erected in Bressica depicting Our Lord bent forward as though heading into flames at the base.
The cruel twist came when the whole topped forward hit the ground and killed a man.
Read Chiesa viva for more details.
An then the Satanic church dedicated to St Padre Pio. Mocking the Holy monk and his Master. Padre Pio – ora pro nobis
I doubt there will be a formal correction, but, never say never.
The Bishop of Rome will not likely answer it unless he can bring some his own brand of social justice to whoever is the issue-ee.
Louie, I have to ask, do you believe there was a “fake Lucy”?
Well, since the consecration has been done than we must be living in the era of peace promised by Our Lady. Ignore North Korea, China, Russia and the slaughter of countless unborn children around the world. Yup, sounds like the era of peace to me.
“as purportedly stated by Sr. Lucia herself (not!), maybe he’ll decide just to wait for that period of peace that she promised…”
I was wondering the same thing that Evangeline asked, but from the sound of the above quote I am going to guess that Louie’s eyesight is clear. From a guy who doesn’t compromise, though, it would be nice to hear your outright opinion on this most obvious minor detail (not). If not now, then when? Now’s the time to remove the veil from so many poor eyes. Surprisingly there’s not many who will talk straight forward about this crazed, trumpeting elephant in the center of the room. It’s so bad. Now’s the time.
“It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter.” P. Henry
More important to make many sacrifices, perform much penance, and visit the Blessed Sacrament frequently but first, to lead good lives.
Monitor developments in Eastern Europe following the pope’s visit to Russia, (timetable soon to be announced).
Yes, I’m amazed how many conservative prolifers while knowing that Russia was the first country to legalize abortion and that this Russian “error” has been escalating and spreading far and wide throughout the world since the first day they legalized it can still accept the Vatican party line that the Act of Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary has already been done. Of course there’s many other obvious reasons but you would think just that one alone should easily be way more than enough proof.
Have you not seen this post on Tradition in Action?
There is most definitely a “fake Lucy.” Only the blind cannot see this
“crazed, trumpeting elephant in the center of the room” —– to borrow Cortez’s expression.
Thank you for your courageous words, Louie.
It has not even been one full ear since Our Lady saved you from your brain aneurysm. I do not think you have disappointed Her in your fight for Her cause. You continue to be Her intrepid defender.
May She continue to guard you and protect you as Her Own.
Please stop showing up at the NO buildings every Sunday, including the FSSP, and giving them your money. At the very least, search out an SPPX chapel.
Yes the Consecration was done and accepted. It was just the problem Our Lady had with prophecy. You see Heaven was unaware in 1917 that Pope John Paul Two would survive the assassination attempt on his life . The vision Third Secret released by Bertone and Sodano affirmed this . She thought he would be “shot dead”. I guess the memo wasn’t passed around in Heaven that he would prophetically survive.
On another note ,wondering if Cdl Burke read this?
VATICAN WEBSITE PUBLISHES THE INFAMOUS LETTER TO THE BISHOPS OF ARGENTINA
“It’s Essentially Official: Holy Communion for Adulterers Now on the Vatican Website”
Louie, from your lips to God’s ears. May it be so. However, clearly, it is not advisable to hold one’s breath waiting for His Humbleness to do anything within Catholic Orthodoxy…..let alone reply to a prima facia case of heresy.
PF could care less because (1) He is not Catholic; 2) he knows most in authority are not Catholic as well; 3) Those that are “Catholic” are weak at best or don’t know or give a flying flip about dogma or orthodoxy in the Conciliar Church; (4) It’s illogical to expect him to place any importance or react to something he neither knows or believes, to begin with. (5) To submit to any correction requires “humility” of which PF has absolutely zero.
My guess is that it will take nothing less than a supernatural intervention to get the attention of PF and the Conciliar Church. Let’s hope and pray it will be sooner rather than later.
There is very credible proof that the original Sister Lucy was replaced by a fake one. Nothing was heard from the true seer after 1960 when she said the consecration had not been done. The new – improved – version of Sister Lucy made it her life’s work to change what the true Sister Lucy had said; the most important one being that the consecration had been done which is a known and patent lie. Seeing the effect of Freemasonry in the Church, it’s not surprising that a terrible thing like this should happen.
Well John, here’s one conservative prolifer who isn’t one bit fooled by the Vatican party line. I know that the Consecration of Russia hasn’t been done and I worry very much that no-one in Rome will make any semblance of an effort to do it any time soon. Isn’t it mind boggling that so-called Popes and Prelates of the Church don’t understand that when Our Blessed Mother asks us to jump – we do not hesitate – we ask “How high!” Sancta Maria, Mater Dei ora pro nobis.
rich–Do you think the SSPX has already made a deal with Modernist Rome without actually making a formal publicized deal? The SSPX has been very soft on Francis and V2 and are so grateful for every crumb Francis throws their way. As far as marriage ceremonies are concerned, they will follow the procedure to have the ceremony performed by a N.O. priest. What is your take on that? Thanks, rich.
2nd Dubia cardinal dies
We know that some have argued Francis has answered the questions put forth in the Dubia.
Could the following be construed as a public slap in the face to the Cardinals who wrote the Dubia?
Although Cardinal Burke, who was not granted an audience with Francis, he did grant a 45 minute audience with a Stephen Walford, identified as a theologian, and his family (where they took many “selfies” with Francis) who had written an “Open Letter to the Four Dubia Cardinals” defending Amoris Laetita, published in Vatican Insider on 6/27/17:
Mr. Walford takes it upon himself to lecture the Cardinals about the teaching of the Church regarding obedience to the pope and ends his letter with these words:
“I will end by humbly asking you to reconsider your position on this issue. You may or may not be aware that there is a growing section of traditionalists and even some conservative Catholics who see you as the standard bearers for the rejection of this papacy. I know from experience that some of it is deeply troubling. The abuse from many, including those who run websites and Traditionalist blogs aimed at the Holy Father and those who are loyal to him, is nothing short of satanic. You are their role models and that is an intolerable situation. In reality, there is no confusion but only outright rejection and defiance towards the legitimate Pope and his magisterial teachings. If all the Cardinals had accepted and defended Pope Francis’ clear teaching, there would have been no fuel for the dissenting fire. In the desire for the Unity of the Church around Peter, it is essential to affirm the Pope has the authority— ratified in heaven—to make disciplinary changes for the good of some divorced and remarried souls, and so I ask you to bring to an end this situation by accepting the constant Tradition of the Church that Popes are free from error in matters of faith and morals and that derives from the specific prayer of Jesus himself: “I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail”. (Lk. 22: 32).
(1) “He is not Catholic.”
That truth alone makes it illogical as you say that a non-Catholic would defend Catholic teachings. So why do so many keep insisting that he do so? He cannot.
,,and then there were none? Is the Vatican doing their own countdown?
Mr. Walford sums up his position in his last sentence where he invokes the infallibility of the Pope, proving that this doctrine has been reduced to being nothing more than a political football for churchmen and pundits alike.
I was under the impression that all SSPX marriages were performed by validly ordained SSPX priests and supported by Canon law. I didnt even know that NO “priests” were called in to preside over SSPX marriages.
I personally wouldnt ever seek out a NO “priest” for anything, no less the conveying of a sacrament.
As far as the SSPX making a deal with the protestant v2 church…..I dont know. If and when they do they become an extension of the FSSP and therefore in communion with the heretical protestant v2 church.
I should add, in honesty, that I have a gigantic problem with the SSPX praying in communion with heretical “popes”. (thats an entirely different issue)
Mr. Walford is an intelligent moron (I know you know this, Im just seconding it). Excusing the mortal sin of adultery is not “disciplinary”, its simply heretical.
With the above being said, Mr Walford does make a valid point regarding the universal (ergo magisterial) teaching of a Pope. If a Pope teaches universally(faith/morals) we have to submit to said teaching….but what if said Pope teaches something universally that is heretical? There’s the rub. If you cannot teach error…but do…then you cant be who you are proclaimed to be.
I am aware that conservatives like Mr. Walford and sedevacantists like yourself agree when it comes to submission to the Pope. The “rub” for the rest of us is infallibility and it’s proper application.
The rub for R&R types is that you are just like protestants when you decide which papal teaching you are going to submit to and which one you will not. If Frankie is your Pope, then you need to submit, since it is Christ who gave him the authority to teach.
SSPX procedure for marriage courtesy of the Holy Father:
Why are they so grateful to a pseudo-church?
I don’t get bent out of shape over non infallible papal teachings. As Canon Hess used to say, unless the Pope declares, statutes, and defines, I’m not interested in what he has to say. Of course this is an exaggeration but the point is there. And this is equivalent to saying that I submit to the will of the Pope. But what is the will of the Pope? The will of the Pope will always be inside apostolic tradition. I hope you can see that this is not a protestant way of thinking.
John314, the Pope has the authority to teach and you have the duty to assent. It cannot be said any simpler than that. Infaillabilty is a charism of the Papal Office. It has nothing to do with the Pope’s authority and your duty. For the last 50 plus years, your Popes have been telling you that Muslims worship the same merciful God as Catholics worship. This is just one of many “new” things that the V2 NO sect has constantly taught since the 1960s. So if this teaching is from true Popes and Bishops, then you MUST assent. You cannot be your own magesterium and decide for yourself what you will or not assent to based on where on the infaillabilty scale it lands.