Given from the humble hand of Francis on September 3rd was yet another motu proprio; the document, Magnum Principium, which grants greater authority to bishops’ conferences to translate liturgical texts into the vernacular.
Liberals, of course, found this latest pronouncement from Occupied Rome a cause for celebration; while neo-conservatives and more tradition-minded persons, on the other hand, were largely horrified.
Adding to the angst of the latter group is what Marco Tossati at First Things called the “calculated humiliation” of Cardinal Robert Sarah, who was publicly corrected by Francis after suggesting that Rome’s authority to establish binding liturgical translations according to the norms set forth in the 2001 document, Liturgiam Authenticam, had not actually been ceded to the bishops.
Francis’ publicly published correction reads in part:
Magnum Principium no longer holds that the translations must be in conformity on all points with the norms of Liturgiam Authenticam, as was done in the past.
Cardinal Sarah, of whom the Catholic Herald declared in June, “terrifies his opponents,” has long been a neo-con idol. Today, it seems, his stock in such circles has never been higher.
In truth, however, it should be the exact opposite.
This isn’t the first time Cardinal Sarah has been called to the carpet by Francis, who saw to it that the cardinal was publicly chastised for calling on priests to offer the new Mass ad orientem back in July of 2016.
At the time, I wrote:
Now that the battle lines have been clearly drawn, and in a most public way, we will find out what Cardinal Robert Sarah is made of:
Will he serve the Lord, or will he dutifully serve his earthly taskmaster, Francis?
Time will tell.
Well, time has told, and far from being the great protector of tradition that some imagine him to be, Robert Sarah is a nebbish who terrifies no one in Bergoglian Rome, which is presumably the only reason why he has retained his position at the CDW.
Writing about Magnum Principium, Sandro Magister recently stated:
It must be noted that when this was drafted it was kept in the dark from Cardinal Sarah, prefect of a dicastery whose middle management has long been rowing against him.
Let’s be honest, Cardinal Sarah is the very definition of ineffectual, and truth be known, what he apparently desires to promote – a pious-appearing Novus Ordo – is still poison; albeit better disguised.
This brings me back to Magnum Principium.
For us so-called “traditionalists” (aka Catholics), modernist Rome granting bishops’ conferences the authority to customize the Novus Ordo according to local sensibilities, presumably even those that are theologically dubious, is something to be desired.
It will accomplish far more good than anything Cardinal Sarah might have in mind for the simple reason that it will serve to tear the mask off of the bastard rite; revealing it for the manmade affair that it always has been.
For this reason, I’m not inclined to bemoan Magnum Principium; on the contrary.
I welcome the day when we will hear “for all” spoken in Germany, gender-inclusive pronouns employed in France, and pedestrian language intoned at new Masses in nations all over the globe.
The bottom line is that the Novus Ordo Missae was not given to the faithful by Holy Mother Church; it was dispensed from the hands of mere men who abused their authority, and it is largely responsible for the unprecedented loss of faith that has come to define the post-conciliar age.
If Magnum Principium makes this truth clearer to more people, and presumably it will, I say bring it on!
Louie, you are like a bracing gale of clarity that slaps one in the face, or shakes one by the shoulders and says, for heaven’s sake, wake up, HERE is reality.
Louie, how right you are. The Novus Ordo (lets call it the , No mass) is poison in any form. I avoid it as if it were a plague, which it is. It has caused more Catholics to leave the faith than the protestant revolt. Worse yet, it has repulsed generations of younger Catholics that would have loved the traditional mass. So many young Catholics will never know the beauty of the traditional mass because all they are exposed to is insipid, banal protestant hymns incessantly sung, usually by old ladies in funny hats. Yup, that’s what a young man looks forward to on a Sunday. God have mercy on us.
VCR, you mean there are still women who wear hats in the Nervous Order?
I do not remember any hats back in 1978 , the last time I went ,on anyone’s noggin! By golly does this mean they are returning to tradition?
Sarah, Burke, Schneider. These are the most deadly enemies of Catholicism. Bergolio is such an obvious heretic that no trad falls for his lies. But the orthodox neo caths can get most trads disoriented with a few TLM masses and maybe some Latin here or there.
I foresee that by the end of this year, Tom A would have founded the “One True, No Really We Promise It Is, No SSPX, Death to Fake Trads Catholic Church”, with Mad Louie V. as Pope, and Randy Engel and Cornelia Ferrera (sp)? as Deaconettes. I’ll even donate $1,000,000,000 in Monopoly money to help you get started.
Instead of frothing over here, Louie & co., why not take out your repressed anger using something harmless? Look, I’ve even set up accounts for you, “parce que je suis bon prince!”
Mad Louie V: http://mad-louie-v.mybrute.com/cellule
Comes with a club, knife and spear. Symbolism optional.
Terrible Tom A: http://tom-a.mybrute.com/cellule
Comes with a knife, spear and extra hit points.
No, no, don’t thank me. Thank St. Francis de Sales who gave me the idea. =)
Prof Q a confirmed troll complete with attached access to fantasies. Says it all.
You know, son, if you learned to write in proper, grammatical sentences, people might actually read them.
If you want to join them, just log in here:
Comes with a flail and a club. Will take on Pope Francis in single-handed combat.
Louie, where is your boot?
“and truth be known, what he apparently desires to promote – a pious-appearing Novus Ordo – is still poison; albeit better disguised”. SO TRUE!
“it will serve to tear the mask off of the bastard rite; revealing it for the manmade affair that it always has been.” EXACTLY!!!
My dear Professor, what is it that you actually profess? What are you trying to convince us of here? Save yourself the stress that akaCatholic is clearly giving you and go visit other websites that specialise in meeting modernism half way. I could provide you with some recommendations names as I used to view them. Theyll make you forget about all this truth and reality stuff and keep you hooked up to the Vat 2 matrix.
Even if so they would still be more Catholic than Bergolio & Co. Inc.
Bravo! Great response to the “professor”. I wonder who pays him/her to present his/her mildly amusing but juvenile attempts at home grown ‘diabolical disorientation’?
Criticism Must Be Practiced. Francis de Sales practiced criticism to an admirable degree. He was very much aware of the fact that, as bishop, it was his duty to put into place the decisions of the Council of Trent, to expose the mistakes and faults of others, and to OPENLY BRING THEM TO DISCUSSION. Often enough during his twenty year tenure as bishop he had to practice such criticism for the sake of the Gospel. St. Francis de Sales: Patron of Journalists, page 13
Definition of condescension
1 :voluntary descent from one’s rank or dignity in relations with an inferior
2 :patronizing attitude or behavior
scoffing condescension by the “we know better than you” people —A. J. Anderson
The constitution gives every American the inalienable right to make a damn fool of himself
If you are advocating that evil be done so that good may come from it — I am not with you.
So our Lord and our Lady will use it for a giant trap that will backfire on all those
who profess the Novus Ordo Mass. And then some may finally open there eyes.
I love it!
From the Crucifixion came the Resurrection!
Its already coming no matter what (unless you think that the NO church is suddenly going to start reverting back towards the Faith)…..I think that LV is simply saying that the sooner the inevitable happens the better.
God said to the prophet Ezekiel, “If you do not speak up and warn the wicked man, he shall die for his sin; but I will hold you responsible for his death.” (Ezekiel 33:8)
To rationalize sin and to “never let a good catastrophe go to waste” is to dig one’s hole a little deeper — while the slippy slope gets steeper.
Ok. So what sin do you propose that Louie is guilty of?
I believe that Louie is simply welcoming the separation of the wheat and the chaff. God has always used this type of method to do it. It’s the old “give him enough rope and he’ll hang himself” approach. There is nothing that any of us can do to stop it and you sound a little silly implying that Louie is in any way bringing it on or that he can prevent it from happening. Many of us who have been in this fight for what seems like a very long time now, welcome anything that will demonstrate to all Catholics of good will, just exactly what they are signed up for with the post Vatican II anti-church.
Yes, I could not have said it better. Thank you, J-Bomb.
I’m not inferring that Louie is guilty of sin. The sin I’m referring to in my comment is the sins of churchmen abusing the liturgy and teachings of the church and pandering to the people, etc. That’s the sin that I claim is being rationalized for the purpose of using it to bring about a desired result.
You are so right Tom A! They are the most dangerous because they are the ones who the lost and confused are listening to. I have a whole family full of them who think these men are going to be the saviors of Catholicism .
If you have a point, make it. If you are here to mock and try to intimidate by using screen names, that’s rude. Your snarky comment to Simple Shepherd was just mean, but illuminating as to your status.
Is this your best effort to defend a pope gone rogue?
Join the club….I have many who are close to me singing the praises of the FSSP. The same FSSP that was purposefully instituted by jp 2 to draw good men away from the SSPX. Who’s the first FSSP bishop? Oh thats right, he doesnt exist.
That is an excellent comment. I have thought the same thing many a time about Louie’s clarity, but not been able to articulate it as eloquently as you have here.
Yes, nail hit on the head Tom!
I lived in a Diocese that bragged they have the first TLM under the Diocese as a mission parish. I knew the Bishop all too well and I also know undoubtedly just who his priests were and are that are the “stars” for the Diocesan Latin Mass effort. I have friends inside these rectories both priests and Diocesan employees who heard first hand and saw their homosexual shenanigans. Everything from bragging about twenty five pound vestments hand sewn with real gold thread made in a French convent for many thousands of dollars to hosting their significant same sex partners for rectory parties.
Meanwhile the likes of Fr Z online promoting them as “friends” and “Traditional priests”. Their masses are packed with pew people who have no idea and are so grateful to have such “holy” priests donate heavily. how does one answer friends who ask why you do not attend?
Do you tell them Fr X is an active sodomite?
I should have written “Frs” X,Y and Z , since there is a clique of active hx’s celebrating the TLM in our former Diocese along with their additional NO counterparts. Some parents have even pulled their sons from serving at the altar because their adolescent boys have complained they sensed they were “being groomed”. (being invited over to the rectory to watch movies on a weeknight because the priest or priests say they think they have a “vocation”).
So feel free Prof Q to complain and be sarcastic towards genuine Catholics who know the score, but know this …….you are complicit with these sodomite types in your sarcasms here.
That guy in Kansas in his mothers kitchen has a better claim to the Papacy than Bergolio. For starters he professes the Catholic faith.
Most Catholics who follow this blog consider attendance at Mass the opportunity to give honor and praise to God alone.
Prof Q , maybe you and a few others who defend the New Order of the Mass and Borgoglio ,actually think the new order of everything is a fun time gathering to celebrate katholicism with hoop de doo masses like that of Scranton Diocese’ Polka Masses featuring Skanky and the Coal Miners ?
Or like the charismania in Philadelphia ArchDiocese, which frequently hosted the Enneagram Mystic Eileen George, who oft gave retreats for priests and seminarians at Malvern Retreat House . I am sure you would have enjoyed attending Mass followed by her telling fortunes like the amazing Kreskin at the Basilica of Sts Peter and Paul and have listened to this multi Bishop approved “mystic” pick you to tell you the name of your Guardian Angel ! ( she sees angels and has mystical wine in a barrel which floats in her basement that ” Butchie” aka Jesus transformed from vinegar . ) She is deceased now , may God have Mercy on her soul.
Or how about Your Church hosting the now defrocked Fr Ken Roberts who had a penchant for young men considering the priesthood, holding up the palms of his hands to demonstrate his “reverse stigmata” for the impresses pew sitters. ( white spots in the center of his palms).
Prof Q , “Pope” Francis is the pinnacle of all of these formerly localized atrocities allowed by our Bishops sitting in the Vatican itself. I recall when Palm Sunday was renamed Mother Earth Mass at many of our local parishes , something I am sure this present Pope would applaud. Now these same Bishops will be loosed to create even more innovative Liturgies?
So call posters here whiners and mock away .
From what I read , the posters here for the most part have their Faith in tact and know going to Church means giving Honor and Glory to God alone.They are tired of it having been replaced with a celebration of man.
Sweepoutthefilth–I never understood how a priest could celebrate both the TLM and the N.O. “mess”. The theology behind these two rites (I’m being generous here) are totally opposite and opposed to one another. Is the priest’s belief in the Real Presence turned on and off like a faucet? Also, the diocesan TLMs are at the “generosity” of the bishop who could decide tomorrow that this “favor” is no longer granted. The way things are now (or it appears to be)is that the SSPX is not under the control of perverted Modernist Rome. How long will that last? Perhaps, I’m wrong, but I don’t trust a priest who celebrates the N.O. “mess” at 10 AM and the TLM at 12PM. Something just isn’t right. What do you think?
2 Cents, at the Diocesan TLM Mission parish, the priest ONLY celebrates the TLM. His friend at another big parish ( who was demoted to a poorer mainly Hispanic parish, used to throw in a few “Dominus vobiscums” in the nervous ordo ,to the delight of the pew people in awe of his “traditional” image. Several of their other priestly friends did the same when they observed Mass attendance at these parishes.
These priests are part of the disordered clique.That makes it easy to understand when you know their proclivities first hand.
SSPX……..big sigh here, they have had their own disordered …..Marshall Roberts, Ensey, Urrutigoity AND their friends who also exited to start their own resistance.
FSSP…….well I know one pastor for certain who, before he was Ordained attended an SSPX chapel and personally confided his disordered orientation on a trip.
i cannot believe the FSSP was in the dark when they accepted him because he was flamboyant enough to complain that the SSPX parish pew sitters eyed him as satan himself.
For many of us the visible institutional Church appears shot. There are still a very few marginalized old priests though. These priests confide the Church has left them.
Pray pray pray the Rosary.
Is Bergoglio getting ready to “bring it on”?
Abomination of desolation version 2.0. Can’t wait to see the look on the faces of the Remnant crowd when this is imposed at the same time the TLM is suppressed definitively by Bergolio&Co. Matt will still be raging at us for not according Bergolio the respect due the Roman Pontiff.
Well said Tom.
Reporting a local FSSP priest that his Bishop is Francis of Rome.
I read that too last night and my stomach turned remembering when Borgoglio was elected and I asked an Argentine acquaintance about him.”Well, I can tell you this. He destroyed everything Catholic in my country.”
It seems that destroying Catholicism in Argentina could not satisfy his boundless hatred for all things Catholic. I don’t think we’ve seen the end of the Bergoglio Reign of Terror. He won’t stop until there is nothing left and there is no one courageous enough to stop him. Our Lady, help of Christians, pray for us.
Happy Feast of Christ Our King, Louie!
I always remember you (and pray for you) on this day. You are a staunch defender of the Sovereign Rights of Jesus Christ Our King …… and of His Holy and Most Blessed Mother.
Amen to that 2 Cents !
I think we are watching the End Times unfold before our eyes and that it will take great supernatural series of events to change direction.
Our Lady of Fatima save us through the Graces of Your Immaculate Heart !