From the laughable notion that recreating the Petrine Office in one’s own image and likeness is a mark of “humility,” to the dog-and-pony press conference that presented the 40,000 word Eco-Marxist manifesto Laudato Si’ to the world as a contribution to the social doctrine of the Church, the current pontificate is so lacking in genuine Catholic character that its official messaging often gives off the unmistakable stench of a spin job deliberately crafted to deceive.
The farcical tones that began emanating from Rome in the early evening hours of 13 March 2013, apparently detectable to but a relative few early on, have been growing louder and louder ever since.
Today, the alarm bells being sounded by the Franciscan pontificate are so deafening that even some among the slumbering class of the neo-conservatives can’t help but be stirred.
Viewed through the eyes of faith (still possessed by far too few in our day), the entire charade comes off as a cheap imitation; a low-budget and supremely unconvincing production replete with bad supporting actors (like Walter Kasper and Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga), crappy costumes (like papal vestments sporting patterns more appropriate for boxer shorts) and hastily constructed props held together with shoe strings and bubble gum (like the shipwreck “altar” and ambo used by the pope in Lampedusa).
From its very inception, the pontificate of Pope Francis has been, it seems, but one long series of offenses our Holy Catholic faith; so much so that those rare occasions when Pope Francis has managed to act in a manner consistent with his sacred obligation to teach the Faith with clarity, even if only marginally so, have been properly treated as headline news.
The Franciscan Follies is perhaps best described as a tragic comedy wherein the star-in-white titillates the world with dubious gestures and condemnable orations that are then packaged up in “Catholic” shrink wrap and peddled through various media channels, beginning with the Holy See Press Office, to adoring fans, some of whom have no blessed idea that their search for the one true faith has scarcely even begun.
With the promulgation of Laudato Si’ faithful Catholics everywhere were moved to look skyward while pleading, “My Lord and my God, how much worse can it get?”
Well, last week, we found out.
Pope Francis’ so-called “Apostolic Journey” (false advertising for an event more accurately described as a Bergoglian Junket) to Latin America seems to have provided him with a number of too-good-to-pass-up opportunities to outdo even himself in derogating the Office of Peter, which is no small feat for the man who will forever be remembered for ushering in the age of the papal selfie.
It’s almost as if Francis made up his mind well before departing Rome for his Hometown Boy Done Good Tour that he was going to do his level best while in the continent of his birth to bear as little resemblance as possible to a Catholic; much less an Apostle.
In which case, mission accomplished.
If nothing else about his South American tour seems congruent with objective truth, we must admit that Francis’ use of a Bolivian Burger King as a makeshift sacristy, while repugnant in its disregard for the dignity of the papal office, actually provided an uncharacteristically spin-free image of this otherwise highly propagandized pontificate, the motto of which might as well be “Have it Your Way.” ™
Among the various affronts that were heaped upon Christ and His Church courtesy of Pope Francis over the last week, two things in particular stand out as especially worthy of mention; namely, his pathetic plea for forgiveness, and his presentation of a sacrilegious icon to the Blessed Mother.
On Thursday, speaking at a gathering in Santa Cruz, Pope Francis said:
I humbly ask forgiveness, not only for the offenses of the Church herself, but also for crimes committed against the native peoples during the so-called conquest of America.
The following day, he placed the “gift” that was given to him by Bolivian president Evo Morales (that hideously bastardized crucifix featuring the corpus of Our Blessed Lord affixed to the hammer and sickle) before a statue of Our Lady of Copacabana, Patroness of Bolivia, praying:
Receive as a gift from the heart of Bolivia and my filial affection the symbols of affection and closeness that – in the name of the Bolivian people – Mr. President Evo Morales Ayma has bestowed on me with cordial and generous affection, on the occasion of this Apostolic Journey, which I entrusted to your solicitous intercession.
It’s enough to make one wonder if Pope Francis is deliberately trying to vex the faithful; in some ways, however, he’s simply picking up where John Paul the Great Humanist left off.
In October 2013, I proposed that the pontificate of Pope Francis is not so much a break from Pope Benedict XVI as it is a rather aggressive return to his immediate predecessor’s program promoting the eminently anthropocentric conciliar aggiornamento.
After more than two bitter years of life under Pope Francis, it is more obvious now than ever just how much he and John Paul II have in common.
In fact, I would argue that the aforementioned papal shenanigans in Bolivia provides solid evidence that Francis is simply carrying the failings of Pope John Paul II closer and closer to their logical conclusion; all out apostasy.
How so?
Where the Polish pope was pleased to personally venerate the blasphemous Qur’an as if it were sacred, his Argentinian successor went further still by offering a blasphemous image of Jesus Christ to His very own Mother as a “symbol of affection.”
In the first instance, Wojtyła, as his defenders weakly argue, was simply showing respect on a strictly human level, albeit clumsily, for those who see the Qur’an as something sacred; i.e., he wasn’t anointing it as such.
Francis, for his part, by contrast, has taken the next logical step by treating that which is blasphemous as if it were actually Catholic; i.e., as if it were objectively sacred.
While one might argue, and rightly so, that John Paul II was rather unlike Francis in his vehement rejection of Liberation Theology (as memorialized in that iconic image of the Holy Father wagging his finger at Fr. Ernesto Cardenal on the tarmac in Nicaragua), the foundation upon which both men’s social convictions rests is the same; namely, the post-conciliar model wherein the Social Kingship of Christ has been supplanted by the so-called “primacy of the human person.”
With this being the case, there was nowhere for the social doctrine of John Paul II to go but to where Francis is taking it – from the former’s overtly earthbound commitment to the “preferential option for the poor” and his hyper-inflated focus on human dignity, to the latter’s desire for “a poor Church for the poor” and his astounding declaration that man is “king of the Universe.”
This trend wherein Francis is taking the Wojtyłan (and ultimately conciliar) humanism to its logical conclusion is also evident when one considers that while John Paul II was content to go about apologizing for the supposed misdeeds of Catholics throughout the ages, his current successor is now unabashedly begging forgiveness “for the offenses of the Church herself!”
So, back to the question that is posed in the title: What on earth is Pope Francis doing?
Well, I hate to say I told you so, but he’s doing precisely what I expected him to do.
Forgive me for once more calling attention to my assessment of the present pontificate dating back to October 2013:
The unfortunate truth, far too unsavory a reality for many to admit, is that the current pope is the long awaited generalissimo of the humanist revolution that was unleashed in earnest in 1958.
The infantrymen of the revolt, the modernists who were in the previous century consigned to operating clandestinely, were set free to move about in the light of day the moment Angelo Roncalli assumed the throne of St. Peter.
After decades of war planning, the rebels were by far the more prepared of those who took to the battlefield known as Vatican Council II, masterfully outwitting the Miles Rex (the faithful Soldiers of Christ the King), sealing in the conciliar text the terms of their bloodless takeover.
With every passing day, Pope Francis – the generalissimo of the humanist revolution – is showing those with eyes to see all the more clearly what, God forbid, the once nascent post-conciliar church-of-man is inevitably going to look like when it’s all grown up:
A Church without Christ, with an edifice scarcely recognizable as Catholic, in spite of the propagandizers’ best efforts; in short, a rudderless ship traversing a world just begging for Divine chastisement.
Remember Angelo Cardinal Scola? Generally regarded as the 2013 conclave front-runner, the Italian anti-mafia police conducted a much publicized pre-dawn raid on Cardinal Scola’s diocesan offices in Milan just hours before the conclave commenced and (presumably within ear-shot of the Cardinal electors). So certain was the anticipation that Scola would be pope that as ‘Vatican Insider’s’ Giacomo Galeazzi reported on 14 March 2013:
“…just minutes from the Proto-Deacon’s announcement, an unfortunate statement by the Secretary General of the Italian Bishops’ Conference (CEI) expressed ‘the feelings of the entire Italian Church in welcoming the news of the election of Cardinal Angelo Scola as the successor of Peter.'”
But the god of surprises intervened and continues to run interference for Bergolio.
Louie, you are so right – this is really becoming laughable except it is so serious we want to weep. Three short years! In olden times the symbol for the Devil was a man upside down. What we have here is our Holy Catholic Church upside down. The signs of diabolical influence are startling.
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Here is a site for those who would like to compare some of Pope Bergoglio’s statements with the authentic magisterium.
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http://denzingerbergoglio-en.com
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The site is basically a translation of a Spanish site – translated by a group of US priests. It’s quite thorough and worth a look if anyone wants the nuts and bolts of exactly where Pope Bergoglio goes wrong. They don’t cover everything but have 50 instances posted where he introduces diabolic influence into our Church. In each case Bergoglio’s statements are directly opposed to the perennial magisterium.
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Thanks for a great job again, Louie. Depressing as all get out, but desperately needed for our continuing education in the truth.
Speaking about the demonic, I posted this in the comments of Louie’s last post – as it might get missed now here it is again:
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Father Ripperger who gets mentioned here a bit has left the FSSP to form a group of exorcists in the US – with approval of his superiors and bishops, of course. He states that demonic activity has ramped up to a very high degree in our world and is becoming bolder. This would be laughed at by millions but we know the truth of it.
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There is a lay association affiliated with Father’s group ‘Auxilium Christianorum’. Here are the aims of the association:
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“To provide prayers for those priests associated with the Auxilium Christianorum so that their apostolate in driving out the demons is efficacious. To provide prayers for the protection of the priests, members of the Association and their families and friends so that they are not adversely affected by the demonic.”
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There is a set of prayers, which I believe you can get from the above named site. It’s quite a commitment as the prayers are not short and must be prayed daily.
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He suggests, of course, daily Rosary and an even closer devotion to Our Lady under the title of Virgo Potens (Virgin Most Powerful), and for those who can afford it, to have a statue of Our Lady, and one of St. Michael, in the home with a vigil light burning all the time – where practical naturally. And an increased devotion to our Guardian Angel.
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We must put on the armour of God before we go out to battle.
Shortly after Bergoglio was elected Pope, I gave him the name “Pope Chip Chip” because it was becoming more and more apparent that his mission was to slowly and methodically chip away everything Catholic from the Papacy and the Catholic Church. In the beginning, the chips appeared to be seemingly “little” things which may not amount to re-forming or re-designing the structure of Catholicism. As time goes on, these chips are now boulders making the Catholic Church unrecognizable. While we could trace this behavior back to the first postconciliar pope, Bergoglio has raised it to an art form. There are many who say he looks like Stan Laurel (sorry Stan!), it would almost be a relief if Bergoglio had the naive innocence of Mr. Laurel. He is NOT naive and he is NOT innocent. Things can only get worse and the Bishops are useless!
Many who visit this blog will no longer put one cent in the parish collection basket and rightly so. Louie’s hat is a good alternative. Thanks Louie for looking out for us.
Louie writes: “the alarm bells being sounded by the Franciscan pontificate”.
Alarm bells?
As a wise man once said (I adapt but a little):
The time for bell-ringing is over.
IT’S OVER!
I simply can’t tell you how sad I am about all of this. If Francis is the pope to consecrate Russia to Out Mother’s Immaculate Heart; it’s going to take a Road to Damascus experience to get his attention. I’m beginning to think like the sedevacantists.
Not to downplay the bad he did, but at the very least, at least Paul (saul) truly believed he was doing the right thing by God. I cant possibly believe that francis believes the same.
THE
POPE
The Pope
Is the Pope
In cope
Ya dope
But never
Was there
Such a Pope
To cope
I hope
This Pope
Won’t have
To grope
When he
Finally comes
To his
End.
The Pope
Has a head
Of argentine
Taupe
But never
Was there
Such a Pope
Oh nope
No trope
Of hope
He makes
Me mope
But he’s
Real
And not
Pretend.
The Pope
Is the Pope
Not soap
On-a-rope
But never
Was there
Such a Pope
To lope
His passive
Pride will
Make you
Tope
But he’s
Pope
I must
Contend.
The Pope
Throws a rope
Round
Cantelope
Oh nope
The Pope
Eats
Antelope?
With Christ
Elope
From this Pope’s
Scope
And pray
For this
Pope
My friend!
d*mn
I also recommend the site for a description of many of Francis’s oppositions to the Deposit of Faith and morals.
I have to disagree. The more I listen to this pope the more I realize he really does see the Church in a different way. I think he believes the changes he proposes will make the Church better.
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Of course, the sad thing is he has been so deformed by his seminary training and any and all training he had after that, that he is completely unfit for any position, even as a simple priest.
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So for me that’s the bottom line: we have a man who is completely convinced his path is the right one. Just look at the twisted, perverted philosophy that has been promulgated in the past 200 years! Francis is steeped in it. It pours out of his mouth daily. He can’t imagine what the fuss is about, if he even notices.
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On the plane coming home he made note of the fact that there was some disagreement coming from the US about his economic nuttiness. What did he say? “Well, I guess I don’t know much about economics – duh! I guess I’ll have to study this a bit, and then we can dialogue!!!” How can anybody in public life be so stupid?
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It is almost hard to believe, but I believe it – until this man dies we are going to have more of the same.
Bishop Schneider said in the Voris interview that when priests and bishops get this bad there is often sent a persecution – Our Father in Heaven’s way of PURGING His Church. He mentioned the Mexican persecution – he said there were many bad priests, lazy priests, and perverted priests – but many were murdered – and the seeds of a resurgence in Faith came from it.
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Is that what we expect? That the only way out is for real persecution to come? All the bad priests and bishops will be swept away, as well as many good ones – and the kernel of a pure Church will grow from the ‘mess?’
Charming and on point as usual Long-Skirts. Would that I could wax so pointedly poetic.
These days we’re passing through remind me of a song that was popular in 1971, “Have a Nice Day” by Hoyt Axton. Some of you may have heard it. I’ve included the link below.
“When it all comes down I hope it doesn’t land on you.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPBpD-MkGlo
What makes you think this won’t all continue when Francis does depart this world at some future point? It certainly could: this is not a phenomenon of one man’s personality. The cardinals who elected Francis had a plan. There are plenty of them, with several more of like mind elevated during this pontificate. The next conclave will either be a continuation of this new path or perhaps a pendulum swing back as a short-term reaction. But overall, the die is pretty much cast, as it is with the decline of civilization. Welcome to the 21st century, folks, what a brave new world that has such people in it!
No, that is not what we expect. That is romanticizing the Faith. That leads to fear and error, not better understanding of how to hold fast to Truth. Anyway, why expect a persecution when we already have two going on? The Islamic State in many countries, and the United States government. Let us cope with the real persecutions we can combat, not the overblown drama from the past.
As much as respect your opinion Barbara and value your words, I have to disagree with you as well. You are proposing that Francis is a seriously misguided man who acts in good will..I propose the exact opposite. When he first got elected…for the first few months at least….I thought the same thing (maybe this guy is just really not too smart and speaks in ignorance). I have long since then abandoned that way of thinking. I am a stupid man and yet see what is going on….I cannot accept the fact that this man is somehow dumber then I am and is leading the Church to hell because of ignorance and/or misguided good intentions. He is a Jesuit….he is not stupid.
Hmmm….I think you may downplay how much worse things can become. What is the “overblown drama” which you allude to? Do you really think we’re being truly persecuted right now as compared to what the martyrs had to deal with?
Rich, this is not “overblown drama.” But it is a drama being played out in the Church and the world.
I can only believe that we are close to something great. We have to be close to the crucifixion. Soon, all will believe the Church is dead. There is not much left now. Her breathing has slowed, the pulse is very weak, Her heart is being torn our of Her chest.
This is a punishment from God. He gives us the Pope we deserve. We have rejected the faith and now, he wants us to realize how far we have run from Him. We are close if this is not at the moment when Our Lord cried out: “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me.” Soon comes the resurrection. That will be the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
2tipsea–I agree! The majority of Cardinals thought Bergoglio was the best they had??? They are as guilty as he is (or more?) for this mess. Remember, Bergoglio is not the CAUSE. He is the PRODUCT!!! That is why we don’t hear a peep of protest. Even our so-called “good” bishops remain silent. That is why Bergoglio will never be declared the heretic that he is!
I agree….the person I was posting to seemed to indicate (I may be wrong) that what had either happened in the past (the deaths of the Catholic martyrs) or what was prophesied in the past, was somehow “overblown”. To downplay either would be wrong. The “drama” from our Catholic past is nothing to be scoffed at.
Thanks for the link, Barbara. The site looks thorough, although I didn’t see the famous quote from Bergoglio at Santa Mart last year, where he spoke of “God spray” and said, “…God does not exist.” Maybe they haven’t gotten to it yet.
my2cents
Jorge Bergoglio is surely the apostate he already is. We as Catholics who know our Faith surely dont need a bunch of vatican 2 apostate “cardinals” to declare the fact. We know and therefore it is known. To refuse to declare him an apostate/heretic because a bunch of other apostates/heretics did not “officially declare him as such” is an exercise in true futility. All vatican 2 adherents at any level reject the Catholic Faith and have separated themselves from the Church. They are not Catholic and therefore cannot be obliged. This is actual Catholicism.
He’s so bad, it’ll be easy to move beyond his nonsense once he’s retired to Pyongyang.
More turgid Vogon doggerel from the disciple of the excommunicated old Bourbon Mr Lefebvre.
Why don’t you do everybody a great favour and just bugger off?
All the charm of a rutting rhinoceros.
Charm??? You don’t know what the word means punk!
My question would be how anyone who takes the comparisons seriously could still consider the Vatican II heresiarchs the Vicars of Christ? One cannot be for AND against Christ.
Thing is, his internal ‘will’ is none of our business. His external words and deeds are by what we MUST judge him. And if Bergoglio was called to meet his maker tomorrow, the counterfeit church of VII would still be squatting in the sees that were created by the Catholic Church and once occupied by Catholic Bishops. While VII and the Novus Ordo Rites remain it really doesn’t matter who the Novus Ordo Cardinals ‘elect’ – the results will belong to the same. Until people begin to understand Novus Ordo is to Catholic, as Protestant is to Catholic, and that Vatican II is to the Church as the Reformation is to the Church, it will keep going full steam. People who insist on seeing the Protestant 60s Reformation Institution as the Catholic Church will continue to enable the Protestant 60s Reformation Institution to pass itself off as Catholic on the basis of pure ‘popularity’ – even if some of that popular vote is of the disgruntled kvetching sort. By saying the Novus Ordo is Catholic, you have cast your vote for the Novus Ordo (Protestant) Vatican II (Reformation) Institution AGAINST the Catholic Church, and her true Popes.
“The unfortunate truth, far too unsavory a reality for many to admit, is that the current [anti-pope] is the long awaited generalissimo of the humanist revolution that was unleashed in earnest in 1958. The infantrymen of the revolt, the modernists who were in the previous century consigned to operating clandestinely, were set free to move about in the light of day the moment Angelo Roncalli assumed the throne of St. Peter. After decades of war planning, the rebels were by far the more prepared of those who took to the battlefield known as Vatican Council II, masterfully outwitting the Miles Rex (the faithful Soldiers of Christ the King), sealing in the conciliar text the terms of their bloodless takeover.”
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Every one of those ‘rebels’ and ‘revolutionaries’ belong to a revolutionary and rebellious institution. And, everyone who prays ‘in union’ with them ‘assists’ them.
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Every person who prayed in union with Bergoglio over the past few weeks at the Novus Ordo (or any other) mass that prays in union with him, assisted in the blasphemy he just directed toward the Our Lord and His Mother – Mother of divine grace, Mother most pure, Mother most chaste, Mother inviolate, Mother undefiled, Mother most amiable, Mother most admirable, Mother of our Creator, Mother of our Savior. Likewise such ‘union’ causes one to ‘assist’ in every other public act of defiance/impurity/falsehood. Who you pray in union with is crucial to whether or not you are a Catholic.
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“The unity of the Church is manifested in the mutual connection or communication of its members, and likewise in the relation of all the members of the Church to one head…If [a man] be in communion with [the Roman Pontiff] he should be acknowledged by all and everywhere as faithful and orthodox.” Satis Cognitum.
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Anyone who claims that communion with the heads of the Novus Ordo is the visible sign that he should be acknowledged ‘by all and everywhere as faithful and orthodox’, has had a lobotomy of the soul.
This pope, and the hard core modernists in general have lost supernatural faith. However, they see the church as an institution as too valuable to let fade away. The Church as a powerful global institution can, in their minds, be a force for good (in the naturalist, masonic sense) in the world. All this is their attempt to “save” the church. They truly think they are “saving” the church.
I pray for Bergoglio – a dope on a rope if one is being kind. Christ, however, warns me not to pray in union with him. The Catholic prays in union with the Pope, not a squatter in a vacant see, rendered vacant by the invasion of something called the Counciliar Church of New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Rites of Worship, Ordination, Baptism, Confirmation, New Disciplines, New Theology = The Novus Ordo. As has been pointed out, a long vacany in the See of Peter is perfectly in conformity with the teachings of Holy Mother Church. A true successor of Peter publicly perverting dogmatically defined Faith and Morals is not.
Peter. The real question is, how does David know so much about the rut of a rhinoceros?
Rich, we know that Bergoglio is a heretic without any declaration from anyone. But for the sake of the world at large, he must be formally declared such because the vast majority of the “catholic” world are clueless. It is for their sake, not ours. Countless “wake up calls” and our fellow catholics are in a deep slumber. Public declaration of heresy is what is needed!
Salvemur, I love you! 🙂
That’s a relief. It means I haven’t had a soul-lobotomy. I hear they are really bad for the digestion.
salvemur–that anesthesiologist Ratzinger, by means of his faux “traditionalism,” managed to sedate multitudes to prepare them for the type of surgery you name.
I agree. Public declaration is needed – even if at this stage it can only come from individuals or small groups. Every self-professed Catholic clergyman should be warning his flock away from Bergoglio. Bergoglio is a public apostate and blasphemer, doing the devil’s work; yet people believe he is the approved shepherd of the flock of Our Lord Jesus Christ because of the communion kept with him. It is this ‘communion/approval’ with/of belial that is keeping the intellectual delusion or intellectual dishonesty going, I reckon. There was once an oath against modernism. There should be an oath against Vatican II and the Novus Ordo Rites which are the imposition of modernism upon formerly Catholic districts.
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The Tradition of the Church suggests three possible ways to resolve the current crisis: “1. Direct Divine Intervention. This scenario is found in the writings of some approved mystics. 2. The Material/Formal Thesis. This holds that should a post-Vatican II pope publicly renounce the heresies of the post-Conciliar Church, he would automatically become a true pope. 3. An Imperfect General Council. The theologian Cajetan (1469–1534) and others teach that, should the College of Cardinals become extinct, the right to elect a pope would devolve to the clergy of Rome, and then to the universal Church.” http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/TradsInfall.pdf
de Maria – I guess it could be a sort of modernist morpine. take the blue pill, sheeple, and everything will be juuuust fine. And on that note here’s an interesting critique of the speech the ‘Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’ gave in 1993: “The Waldensians and the followers of Vatican II are united — in not knowing what the future of the Church will be like!..How can a “cardinal” not know what the Church ought to be like, when it was founded by Christ two thousand years ago? One could say that Ratzinger has the same notion of the Church that Teilhard has of God: the Church does not exist…yet, but it is evolving towards its omega point, the final goal of the ecumenical movement.” http://www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=62&catname=15
crawler, they don’t cover everything! Who could? Pope Bergoglio never stops talking.
Yes, but one can be a vicar of Christ, and be a bad vicar.
“By their fruits you shall know them” Pope Bergoglio is the fruit of a long vine of bad philosophy. Because he is basically a stupid man who doesn’t seem to notice much of the reaction to his blatherings we miss the background – the teaching that he was given. John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger also were taught the same evil, but it has taken until this pope for the fruit to ripen.
Yes, we must put on our armour before we go out to battle but I need to point out that the website Denzinger/Bergoglio and Father Ripberger’s armour is weak indeed. I read their comments and defense on the topic of contraception and they have definitely drunk the coolaid of NFP. They are ill equiped in this crucial area of Church doctrine that is the heart that has been chipped away at and attacked and has brought on the devastating sexual moral decay we are witnessing today. They are confused lambs going to slaughter. I left a response on the Denzinger website under their defense of large families if anyone is interested in revisiting what the Church Fathers and Scripture had to say about the primodial teachings of the Catholic Church on Marriage and its meaning as institute by the author and architect of marriage our Lord Jesus Christ.
This is a reply to several of the comments above. We know from millennia of Church teaching that no one reaches for evil. Eve reached for the apple because it was presented to her as ‘good.’
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Many do reach for evil, but always because they perceive it as a good. This is just the way we are wired.
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That said, I realize there have been hundreds of evil people doing truly evil things. But Satan always makes any deed seem ‘a good.’
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We have to face the way our brains work. Read Fr. Ripperger’s “Introduction to the Science of Mental Health.” He explains very clearly that man is only able to choose evil because it presents itself as good (direct influence from the demons) or because the man himself has been taught that evil is good, or because he is mentally ill.
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We see this all around! Pope Bergoglio is just like that. He has been taught error in thinking. He’s simply incapable of doing anything other than what he is doing.
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We can understand this better when, as someone pointed out, we always speak to act rather than motive.
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When Pope Bergoglio gets up in the morning he does not think out a plan to destroy the Church. He plans how to make the Church conform to what he has been taught and that he BELIEVES is the right way.
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Is he stupid? I think so. Is he a blunderer? I think so. Is he an egotist? Definitely. Is he humble? No, he has an ego beyond size. That’s why he says “I’ll have to look at the magisterium to see what it says,” when it is pointed out to him that he may be mistaken in his preference exclusively for the poor. He means that he’s just been blathering on and on with what he’s been taught, in each concrete situation as he stumbles through his papacy, without even considering there could be a different perennial teaching from his Church!!!!
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Has he produced evil? Yes. Is he evil? Our Dear Father in Heaven will judge that.
Dear Craig,
This comment of yours makes good sense to me.
Now salvemur you were being so good!
Overblown drama from the past? That’s your opinion of course, but if we don’t ALWAYS look to the past we can’t prepare for the future.
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What we have now is NOTHING. Wait. Read a bit about what things were like when Marxism first came to Russia. You think it’s bad now because we are being laughed at and our priests and bishops have become wolves? Wait until your husband loses his job and can’t get another. Wait until your children are beaten up at school. Wait until your parish Church is torched.
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Overblown? History tells the future.
I certainly don’t pray with Pope Bergoglio, or my local bishop either. I pray for them. Our Lady is waiting. Did she not ask the Fatima children if they would volunteer to make sacrifices for sinners? Does it occur to us that she, and HE, have no need of our prayers? Why does she and HE ask for them? We are invited to participate in the redemption. We are invited to pray with Our Lord Jesus, to the Father, and join our intentions with His.
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No one is asking any of us to pray with Pope Bergoglio. But we are asked by The Blessed Mother of God, Mary, and Our Lord Jesus to pray for him.
a) new liturgy is at war with liturgical tradition
b) ecumenism is at war with evangelization
c} dialogue is at war with the Church’s duty to teach
Jesus send out HIS APOSTLES to PREACH? NOT TO DIALOGUE!
THE
LILY
“The martyrs were bound, imprisoned, scourged, racked, burnt, rent, butchered —and they multiplied.” St. Augustine
NO BURNING, TEARING,
SCOURGING SKIN
IT’S PSYCHOLOGICAL,
ALL WITHIN.
NO ROTTING FLESH
OR PUTRID BLOOD
IT’S STERILE, CLEAN
NO RANCID CRUD
FOR BUTCHERED,
TORTURED, BOUND UP SKINS
REVEALS THE TRUTHS
OF BISHOPS’ SINS.
THEY WANT IT NICE,
THEY WANT IT HUSHED,
WITH VEINS OF ICE
GOOD SOULS ARE CRUSHED.
THE SILENT COLD
IS BETTER YET
FROZEN, SOLID
CAN’T BEGET.
FOR MARTYRED BLOOD
REVEALS THE CHURCH
BLIND SOULS SEE TRUTH
AND END THEIR SEARCH.
“WE CAN’T HAVE THAT!”
THE BISHOPS’ SAY,
“SO LET’S IGNORE…
THEY’LL GO AWAY.
ENLIGHTENED MEN
DON’T SCOURGE THE SKIN,
ENLIGHTENED MEN
KEEP BLOOD WITHIN.”
BUT THEY FORGOT…
THE WOMAN BLEEDS
AND MONTHLY MAKES
A BED FOR SEEDS
WHERE “NICE” AND “HUSHED”
THEY’LL GROW TO MEN
AND SEIZE THE OARS
FROM WRISTS THAT BEND…
ON PETER’S BARK
WHERE BLOOD STILL FLOWS
FROM WOMAN’S WOMB…
THE LILY GROWS!
Dear Barbara,
Remember you pray IN UNION WITH (una cum) him at every NO, or SSPX mass you assist at.
Dear Barbara,
Had only Bergoglio been involved, then your assessment of him might have been true, but he is not an isolated case. He is the current incumbent in a series of heretics dating from Roncalli. The background and history of the assault on the Church is now well documented and widely known – dating from Weishaupt and the Alta Vendita. Bergoglio was carefully selected for the job, as were all his predecessors, by their judeo-masonic masters. He knows exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it – to promote a New World Order. Do these men think that the evil they do is good? Certainly not! They have, of their own free will, sold their souls to lucifer, whom they knowingly and faithfully serve.
Yes, we are referring specifically to that which is found within the context of the Sacred Canon in the Traditional Latin Mass. Unless the FSSP, SSPX celebrants are actually, perhaps even secretly, non-una cum – which many are. Today one needs to ask, especially an SSPX priest, if he is una-cum or non-una cum. Just the reality. It’s a very serious matter for an individual to withold assent from praying “una-cum” – if the individual holds, with all conviction, that Bergoglio is actually the Vicar. http://www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=46&catname=12
We’ll try to remember to also post the above link in the forum since it’s a very touchy issue, we’ve found, with many trads for varied reasons.
Barbara,
Sadly, I believe that there are some people who are evil merely for the sake of evil. I’m not referring to Bergoglio here.
Dear Salvemur,
Are you referring to Eucharistic Prayer I when you claim we pray in union with Francis at a Novus Ordo Mass?
If not please tell us to what you are referring.
If so, we’d like to point out that the prayer is directed to Our Heavenly Father, asking that the gifts, offerings, the Holy and unblemished etc which are offered first for His Holy Catholic Church, be accepted through Christ Our Lord.
Next it petitions Our Heavenly Father :
“Be pleased to grant her peace, to guard, unite, and govern her throughout the whole world. TOGETHER WITH our Pope (Francis)
and our Bishop (name). and all those who holding to the truth, hand on the Catholic and Apostolic Faith.
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Looking honestly at those words, we are NOT praying with the Pope.
We are praying to God to guard, unite, and govern His Church together with him. If effect, this is the same prayer we pray when we ask God to “fix” what is wrong with Frances and prevent him from harming souls.
p.s. When we pray daily for the “intentions” of the Holy Father, it is for those listed by the Vatican as the Holy Father’s intentions.
We have not seen any that have been contrary to Church teaching so far, but our prayer is for God to convert any part of him that need conversion, and for any of his intentions that are pleasing to God.
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So we can still see him as a “bad” Pope, as Barbara mentioned,
and continue to participate in the Mass, as Catholics aware of a time of tribulation being allowed by God, while we petition our Bishops and Cardinals to do whatever it takes to officially remove this Pope from office.
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Dear Salvemur,
This charge of people who attend the N.O. Mass, praying with the Pope and uniting ourselves with his blasphemy is untrue. Please see our response to your similar charges –above.
Dear Barbara,
Amen. As we noted above, the actual words of Eucharistic prayer #1 have us praying, asking GOD to do the guarding, uniting, and governing of His Church WITH the Pope and Bishop. We aren’t uniting ourselves to their modernist intentions or actions in any way.
You miss the irony in all of this…
http://time.com/2947156/burger-king-debuts-gay-pride-whopper/
Careful, you may just be putting your own soul at risk here. As St. Thomas Aquinas teaches:
Nothing but mortal sin deserves the eternal punishment of hell. Now railing or reviling deserves the punishment of hell, according to Matthew 5:22, “Whosoever shall say to his brother . . . Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Therefore railing or reviling is a mortal sin.
The above post was went for Salvemur.
Like “THY WILL BE DONE”?
de Maria, I don’t see this as a touchy issue at all. As usual in discussions when people differ in fundamental things one is correct and one is in error.
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I believe Pope Bergoglio is the elected pope at present. Is he the worst pope there has ever been for 2,000 years? I believe he is. But he is the pope. You and others here take the other position – that because he is an apostate and a heretic he is not the pope.
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One of us is correct and one is in error. I will still continue to pray the Mass from my missal and leave the rest to my Heavenly Father.
Barbara,
Over time, you & I have always agreed that Bergoglio is elected. That said, it’s not a matter of opinion, nor is it a position that one takes, when one holds that an apostate cannot possess the Authority given directly from Jesus Christ. Rather, it is the teaching of Holy Mother Church.
Hence, the sedevacantist starts from this point, realizes that this is a matter of eccesiology & theology. There is much mystery vis a vie the future, but there is no contradiction, such as somehow The Vicar of Christ can feed tainted food to the sheep-which is not only a contradiction, but an impossibility.
In interacting here with sedevacantists, although you’ve expressed some honest trepidation, you’ve always shown yourself to be of good will. I hope you see me (& us ) not to be otherwise.
Dear Salvemur, I think everyone of reason and goodwill here acknowledges that a manifest pertinacious heretic is automatically excommunicated in the supernatural realm, and that Francis, is on all appearances, not pope in the supernatural realm. However, there is not general agreement that there is definity of Church teaching regarding the continuance in office in the external juridical realm until certain procedures have taken place. Isn’t this where the main difference lies?
Well done. The orthodox and traditional Fathers of te Council realised the terrible ramifications of changing the teaching on marriage at the a Council so that procreation was no longer stated to be the primary aim of marriage.
He cannot reasonably think it is for the objective good of the Church. He is not an idiot.
Mr Timbs, that is a most rude way to address a commenter. Disgraceful. Dear Mr Verrechio, would you please remove this slur on Longskirts? The respect between any two commenters here has usually been very good, and admirable. The vast majority of commenters have avoided personal attacks. This is a low that ought not be accepted.
Alas, not ironic at all – but rather, very apt. Lord, have mercy!
Reason and the Church teaches us that repeated cooperation with evil, eventually changes one’s character to evil. The will becomes wholly confirmed to evil.
I’d love to know where practising Catholics who hold to the Deposit of Faith and morals, and refuse to cooperate with evil, are not being persecuted? I wish I could move to such a place.
This couldn’t be more serious. Countless souls are at stake, including those we know personally. The Great Apostasy is a catastrophe for the Church, for souls, for the world. Lord, have mercy. Reparation!
Lynda, if anyone needs to be removed from blogdom, it’s you. Look at the way moderators delete the comments of anyone who calls you on your nonsense.
Without fail, it is your daily mission to migrate from site to site bad mouthing Pope Francis, trumpeting and sloganeering about the Natural Law when you can’t even explain where it can be found in the public forum, what it contains and where it came from. You bleat endlessly about the latin mass of 1570, vilifying the Ordinary Form as diabolical and Vatican II as the smoke of Satan. You are just pushing the line of ignorant cryto-sedevacantists.
Get help.
You are probably now moaning about the austerity of Econe.
Another psycho-pathological dirge that would kill a brown dog.
The appalling personal morals of the ‘bad’ Vicars never spilled over into them deviating from the Faith in their teaching capacity. To compare the Vatican II heresiarchs to the ‘bad popes’ only gives enables the heresiarchs who are acutally destroying the faith and therefore the souls of others, rather than their own souls like the ‘bad popes’. It also denies the First Vatican Council’s dogmatic definition of Papal Infallibility.
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“Pope John XII (reigned 955-963). Prince Octavian (his birth name) was only 16 years of age when elected, and he was a complete moral reprobate : “Nothing in his life marked him for this office, and everything should have kept him from it. He was rarely seen in church. His days and nights were spent in the company of young men and of disreputable women, in the pleasures of the table and of amusements and of the hunt, or in even more sinful sensual enjoyments. It is related that sometimes, in the midst of dissolute revelry, the prince had been seen to drink to the health of the devil. Raised to the papal office, Octavian changed his name and took the name of John XII. He was the first pope thus to assume a new name. But his new dignity brought about no change in his morals, and merely added the guilt of sacrilege. Divine providence, watching over the Church, miraculously preserved the deposit of faith, of which this young voluptuary was the guardian. This Pope’s life was a monstrous scandal, but his bullarium is faultless. We cannot sufficiently admire this prodigy. There is not a heretic or a schismatic who has not endeavored to legitimate his own conduct dogmatically: Photius tried to justify his pride, Luther his sensual passions, Calvin his cold cruelty. Neither Sergius III nor John XII nor Benedict IX nor Alexander VI, supreme pontiffs, definers of the faith, certain of being heard and obeyed by the whole Church, uttered, from the height of their apostolic pulpit, a single word that could be an approval of their disorders. At times John XII even became the defender of the threatened social order, of offended canon law, and of the religious life exposed to danger.” Rev. Fernand Mourret, A History of the Catholic Church, Vol. 2.
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“[At the First Vatican Council] the question was also raised by a Cardinal, “What is to be done with the Pope if he becomes a heretic?” It was answered that there has never been such a case; the Council of Bishops could depose him for heresy, for from the moment he becomes a heretic he is not the head or even a member of the Church. The Church would not be, for a moment, obliged to listen to him when he begins to teach a doctrine the Church knows to be a false doctrine, and he would cease to be Pope, being deposed by God Himself. If the Pope, for instance, were to say that the belief in God is false, you would not be obliged to believe him, or if he were to deny the rest of the creed, “I believe in Christ,” etc. The supposition is injurious to the Holy Father in the very idea, but serves to show you the fullness with which the subject has been considered and the ample thought given to every possibility. If he denies any dogma of the Church held by every true believer, he is no more Pope than either you or I; and so in this respect the dogma of infallibility amounts to nothing as an article of temporal government or cover for heresy.” Abp. John B. Purcell, quoted in Rev. James J. McGovern, Life and Life Work of Pope Leo XIII.
Indignus: ‘una cum’ means ‘in union’ with. It is often in Paul VI English translated as ‘we offer them for…’ The ‘una cum’ is as much a part of the Paul VI missal as the 62′ used by the SSPX. The intention is to unite the “holy unspotted sacrifices 62′” (just ‘them’ or ‘it’ in the Paul VI English), in union with ‘OUR POPE’ and ‘OUR BISHOP’. This is very clear. The ‘una cum’ Mass is always in union with the said ‘pope’ and said ‘bishop’.
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The Popes whose teachings are now ignored, fought against praying with heretics, schismatics and apostates – all false religionists.
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To pray with a non-Catholic ‘distorts true religion’ as Pius XI put it. It teaches that the Church of Christ is no better than any religion.
James, to the comment:
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“The unity of the Church is manifested in the mutual connection or communication of its members, and likewise in the relation of all the members of the Church to one head…If [a man] be in communion with [the Roman Pontiff] he should be acknowledged by all and everywhere as faithful and orthodox.” Satis Cognitum….Anyone who claims that communion with the heads of the Novus Ordo is the visible sign that he should be acknowledged ‘by all and everywhere as faithful and orthodox’, has had a lobotomy of the soul.
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You probably agree that communion with the heresiarchs of the Novus Ordo is not at all a sure sign that one is ‘faithful and orthodox’ – so far, no risk of anyone’s soul being put in danger from the statement. That the the Novus Ordo heads are indeed rebels and revolutionaries is plain and I would guess no one would try to deny this. The sticking point is defending being united with the rebels and revolutions. Who would expect ‘all and everywhere’ to acknowledge that this is an unarguably Catholic thing to do? The difficulty of the heresiarch in pope camouflage is not easy to overcome. But its not like God isn’t trying by giving everyone the ‘gift’ of Bergoglio – the logical fruit of VII and the Novus Ordo.
Hey Lynda. Well said (and with much goodwill). What a big ‘difference’ though. As big a difference as risking recusance under Henry VIII in a way.
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As to the arguments over jurisdiction – they continue despite the clear teachings of the Popes and the Bellarmine contingent of theologians. The Church has recorded precedence – the community of Irene breaking with the Bishop, Nestorius (his episcopacy not belonged to the visible One, Holy Catholic and Aposotlic Church); St Athanasius and his generation of Faithful breaking with most of the Bishops; the Reformation recusants who broke with the English Bishops who were validly ordained and confected a valid sacrifice, but due to their breaking with the Holy See they were outside the Church and the faithful recusants suffered torture and death rather than be ‘in communion’ with Henry VIII (a King, no less (these days most people would simply say his authority to oust Catholicism was approved by God by virtue of the fact that he was sitting on the throne (messing up God’s will with our will, which is permitted)).
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The rupture imposed by Henry VIII and by the Henry VIIIs of the Novus Ordo is a pretty good analogy. The Novus Ordo Henrys claim God’s approval of their jurisdicition just as Henry did. The Faithful, however, seeing their words and deeds and the universal error (doctrine, discipline, worship) imposed, know differently. What we do with that differently is where the difference lies.
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An SSPX priest, can’t remember who, once said that placing error and truth on the same level is like equating health and the lack thereof. To afford to a wolf the power of the shepherd is to make the ‘doctor’ and the one who poison’s you the same person.
Thing is, Indignus, if someone says, ‘that person blaspheming and attacking the teachings of the Popes, is actually Christ’s Vicar’, how is one keeping free of enabling the people attacking and blaspheming Christ? It says that Christ is divided against Himself, in which case everything is approved by God – in which case no one could ever not have jurisdiction to lead souls to hell.
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On the ‘una cum’: http://www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=46&catname=12
It’s called the Catholic Church. Try it.
Yes Lynda, you are perfectly correct. The heretic Bergoglio excommunicated himself in the supranatural realm by his sins of heresy, thereby losing his jurisdiction and office, i.e. he is no longer Pope formaliter, or even a member of the church. However, he was legally elected Pope in terms of canon law and therefore legally occupies the Chair of St. Peter and remains Pope materialiter, until he is legally deposed by formal declaration of the proper authorities who elected him.
Dear Barbara,
We are both correct. You are correct in that Bergoglio is the elected pope at present, i.e. he is Pope materialiter; we are correct in that he is powerless and is not Pope formaliter.
David Timbs must be my first trog. I think that’s what they call nasty little psychos who float around the internet posting vicious brainless comments. Being perverts, they apparently get some sort of psycho kick out of doing this. I suppose they were rejected by their mothers, or something like that and crave attention at any cost. Poor little twat. Louie why don’t you simply block this little troglodyte from the site?
Mr Timbs, Your conduct here is disgraceful. You have shown mala fides in your irrational personal attacks. Are you not the David Timbs who plays a public role in the Australian organisation that exists to oppose the Deposit of Faith and morals of the Catholic Church? And in this group, through which you cooperate with other organisations and persons
with similar nefarious aims, such as the notorious Joan Chittister, etc.?
http://www.catholicchurchreform.com/test/advisoryGroup.html
Dear Mr Lamb, See my comment further on where I ask Mr Timbs to own to his public activity in an Australian and international organisation, the purpose of which is to oppose the Deposit of Faith and morals of the Church. All the notorious persons and organisations promoting heresy cooperate together in this group. http://www.catholicchurchreform.com/test/advisoryGroup.html
Give it a rest. You don’t want people to find ‘David Timbs’ under the definition of ‘bitter and twisted’ in the urban dictionary.
Well spotted, Lynda. If Mr Timbs is showing up here, perhaps your comments here and elsewhere are pricking his conscience as the synod approaches. Keep up the good fight.
dear Lynda,
We wish to thank you for your obvious Catholic good will & open mind. Your example of good will & also that of Mr. Verrecchio himself, is in reality exemplary of the overall interraction of sedevacantists in the Catholic world at large. That, not being one of animosity, which some take as a given.
That said, we all of us, often focus on Jorge Bergoglio. However, Bergoglio is **not** the problem. The problem is Vatican II. *******
http://inveritateblog.com/2014/09/01/francis-is-not-the-problem/
The man calling hinself Francis is doing exactly what he said he’d do, implementing the religion which is a false ecumenical harlot, not the Bride of Christ. The VII religion is a sect borne of an heretical council. One day, Bergoglio will be gone. Then, just doing the Catholic math is all that’s required, to figure out what’ll (continue) to happen when/if another Modernist heretic, putting forward this same false VII religion, settles in the Chair.
Agree with salvemur, dear Lynda.
Lynda,
WOW!!! This is beyond unbelievable. Includes Association of Women Catholic Priests. This is pure horror! All these poor, misguided souls racing to hell. How can Luther and Weishaupt every repay for what they have done. This explains poor David Timbs completely. Let us all pray for him and his associates. Lord have mercy on them; Beloved Immaculate Heart of Mary pray for them.
Amen, Mr Lamb. God bless.
Thanks de Maria.
Thanks, Salvemur. Salve!
I appreciate your wisdom but in reading your comments you make sweeping generalizations that condemn all. I can see that some have been scandalized by your words and have taken exception to you passing judgement on their faith. I think you should be more prudent in your comments and not let anger (if only for modernist hierarchies) take over ….allowing your words to be dangerous to your Faith and the Faith of those that may be lurking. If memory serves you were once a Protestant, no? Perhaps some people are still on a journey, much like you.
James. I appreciate the plain talk. I have to say I’m rarely if every feeling ‘PO’d when I leave a comment. I’m not sure I’d say I was ever a protestant – defenitely have been agnostic. I was raised with half-Catholic-couldn’t really care, and half-not-Catholic but couldn’t really care, influences. I reckon that not being thoroughly indoctrinated in the Novus Ordo was and is no small blessing because my understanding of the Catholic Church was in keeping with an old rosary that has stayed with me all my life. Having reached the point of at least experiencing a tippy-toe on the narrow Way (being not at all the crunchiest cookie in any Catholic packet I could claim no more), the demands of communion are paramount to me. We rail against the synod’s proposal the we accept to being in communion with unrepentant adulterers at the level of the laity, whilst we quibble, side-step and dismiss the concept of being in communion with spiritual adulterers at a universal level. Stranger things happen at sea. I dunno.
Did John Paul II 1) place an idol (Golden Buddha) on the Sacred Altar? 2) offer sacrifice (cucumber) to a Hindu God or Goddess?