Last year at this time, many in Catholic media – both neo-conservative and “traditional” – were busy singing the praises of the Polish Bishops’ Conference.
Because they had created a draft document outlining guidelines for the implementation of Amoris Laetitia that, according to an official communique, ruled against allowing the civilly divorced and remarried (so-called) to receive Holy Communion unless their situation is first remedied according to the bi-millennial practice of the Church.
According to Fr. Pawel Rytel-Andrianik, spokesman for the Polish Bishops’ Conference as reported by Catholic News Agency:
The bishops understand that the Church thinks in a linear way; it’s not a change of teaching, but it is in one line. In Familiaris Consortio and Amoris Laetitia you have one line in terms of teaching on the family.
Fr. Rytel-Andrianik went on to say that the Polish bishops agreed that what Francis wrote in Amoris Laetitia is “the same teaching as Familiaris Consortio,” and “the bishops appreciate, very much, Amoris Laetitia” because they see it as “a treasure of the Church that builds on Familiaris Consortio.”
Clearly, as I stated at the time, the Polish bishops are collectively disoriented and diabolically so.
Fast forward to the present, and the proof is all the more undeniable.
As reported by the Catholic Herald:
Poland’s bishops have released their long-awaited guidelines on Amoris Laetitia, sidestepping questions on Communion for the divorced and remarried.
Contrasting the bishops’ final guidelines with the aforementioned draft, the Herald went on to report:
The final document, however, says the Church should serve those living in irregular relationships “according to the pastoral criteria proposed by Pope Francis: acceptance, accompaniment, discernment and integration.”
It also does not directly address the question of giving Communion to the divorced and civilly remarried. Instead, the document calls for “pastoral accompaniment” for those “on the path of discernment” according to Church teaching and the guidelines of the local bishop.
Hold it right there…
Sidestepping? Does not directly address?
The Polish guidelines include following “the pastoral criteria proposed by Pope [sic] Francis.”
If memory serves me correctly, those criteria are clearly stated in the guidelines established by the Bishops of Buenos Aires, and they have been enshrined in the AAS as “authentic magisterium” at His Humbleness’ explicit direction, and furthermore, according to him, “there are no other interpretations.”
In other words, the bishops of Poland have toned down the apparently too-Catholic rhetoric that was present in last year’s draft document.
And who can be surprised?
This is precisely what one should have expected given their utter detachment from reality as evidenced a year ago by their praise for a text (Amoris Laetitia) that literally contains the most odious blasphemies and heresies ever committed to Vatican letterhead.
At this, the Biblical warning concerning “a little leaven” comes to mind; just a dash of poisonous error can spoil an entire lump, and tolerating as much can spoil and entire national bishops conference, and indeed an entire Church.
Yuck. What ecclesiastical panty-waists. More evidence that Poland is largely simply culturally Catholic and the people and their shepherds quaff deeply of the cup of modernist poison.
“Let’s go to the border rosary march on Sunday, Janek” says second wife Agnieska, “after we drop the kids off at their mothers. Oh, and I just got a call from the chemists—my birth control prescription refill is ready. Can we pick it up on the way?”
I’ve heard from friends from Poland that the people/pastors have chosen Barabbas.
Now, what is saving from sin, if not obtaining the pardon of past faults and the grace to avoid others in the future?
The Sinners Guide
Louis of Granada
“…… just a dash of poisonous error can spoil an entire lump, and tolerating as much can spoil and entire national bishops conference, and indeed an entire Church.”
And so it has……what can one expect from the reign of Polish pope, the pride of Poland……for more then 50 years. Blindness, has been the cause of not discerning ‘error from truth’. Our Father who art in heaven, is a JUST GOD, a very loving God, He chastises every proud nation, and every individual……for the good of saving souls!
And Poland is not excluded, they have fallen into ‘the innovations’ after the Second Vatican Council with open arms…..
…sorry, meant more then 50 years from the Second Vatican Council…….
They ALL take the same ecclesial tap dancing classes.
What else would one expect from those who believe V2 was a Catholic Council and the conciliar popes are Catholic Popes.
I’d expect them to start reconsidering that, honestly.
Ah, these weak old men, they can’t hold up against the Francis tsunami. I am really sorry to hear this is the case. As long as someone is holding the line, it makes it tolerable for the rest of us. It’s discouraging to hear Poland is weakening. How long before they convince the people it is not Christian or Catholic to continue to keep out the Mongols? People must be led, or they eventually are lost.
We have no leaders. The flock has been scattered, and we have no shepherd save One.
Take heart Evangeline . We know the voice of our Divine Shepherd and He knows His sheep.
Rome celebrates serious mortal sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance.( according to Church teaching)
The Vatican stays silent.
The minions of the vatican 2 religion strike again (and again, and again, and again….etc). They continue to confuse and disorient lazy and selfish Catholics who REFUSE to read and learn. We Catholics have to be vigilant in 2018. Those who claim to be our hierarchy are actually the ones we need to stay furthest away from.
Yes, the false religion of ecumenism. Pope Pius XI warned about it in 1928 in his encyclical Mortalium Animos :
“Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little. turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.”
These men are already not Catholic. Why would they stay true to the divinely revealed religion?
Let’s wipe the smoke of satan from our eyes and follow the clearly marked trail.
“In a lecture at Fordham University during that time, Dr. Dodd unveiled what would seem to be an uncanny prophecy of future chaos in the Church.
Speaking as a former high ranking official of the American Communist Party, in 1950, a dozen years before Synod Vatican 2, Dr. Dodd said in part:
“In the 1930’s we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the [Roman Catholic] Church from within.”
The idea was for these men to be Ordained and progress to positions of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops.
“Right now they [the Communist infiltrators] are in the highest places in the Church” where they are working to bring about CHANGE in order to weaken the Church’s effectiveness against Communism.
She also said that these CHANGES would be so drastic that:
“You will not recognize the Catholic Church.” ‘
“Unfortunately, at this same time, the Communists were getting more extensive control in the Roman Catholic Church so that nothing of any real significance was ever done in the West since that time by the Roman Catholic Church in the battle against Communism.
Therefore, is it any wonder that Synod Vatican 2 had more than its share of Freemasons, Communists, Modernists, NEW Theology Theologians (automatically excommunicated Modernist Heretics), and Satanists attending this anti-Catholic CONVENTION??!! ”
Alice von Hildebrand said Dodd told her and her husband that ONLY homosexual Communist Party members would take on these assignments.
Hence, Vatican Two , the pederast clerical scandals, heresy after heresy and finally the cherry on the top of this poisonous treat, the communist by the name of Borgolio !
Our ONLY weapon……..the Rosary ! Our Commander in Chief ………….Our Holy Mother ,The Mother of God.
Follow up reading.
Polish false dulia to the Deuce = pure evil. Putting aside the source and conclusion of the following video for a moment here, the facts of apostasy and enshrinement of the false religion of ecumenism at Assisi were SO blatant that it appears to confirm that the Deuce really was an apostate beast, even if not the Beast of R13! https://youtu.be/VVf31G3q-RM
With all do respect Lenny please do not link to the Dimond Brothers.
Close to where I lived was the real MHF Monastery in Berlin NJ started by a Bro Natlie as an independent monastery for men who had physical or age impediments and could not join a Church sanctioned Order. Originally there were around twenty something independent monastics. John Vennari was one of them . Eventually he began to produce a newsletter called ‘Crying in the Wilderness ” which was circulated to Catholics in the area. People wanted the Latin Mass so Bro Natali brought in independent priests on Sundays and they created an Independent parish. I knew John back then and would go there o purchase some rare books.
The monastery began to fall apart and most of the men left. What was left ,Bro Natali died. John and a learning disabled man were left when Michael Dimond showed up. John taught him how to run his Press and they put on Seminars which attracted many Catholics . John was running everything and Baysiders comprised the majority of independent parishioners. He was becoming ill and one day when I went there to buy a book he told me he was thinking of going home to S Philly and that Fr Gruner had offered him a job as Editor of CFN. I encouraged him to leave because of his health. The monastery was left with nineteen yr old bro Dimond who had just become a Catholic and a Jewish man named Ricahrd Ibranya. The deed holders to the property were five people who frequented the TLM that was once offered there and they went to court to fight Michael Dimond and Ibranya and now Dimond’s younger brother who quickly became a Catholic through Fr Hewko at the SSPX in Eddystone PA across the river. The Dimonds were awarded the 80 acres in NY left to the monastery and they started their own quasi Order monastery in a trailer on the property. They fell out with Ibranyi over the money and property who the claimed to be a Catholic too. The original five laymen were awarded the deed to the original property in Berlin NJ. They were able to bring in Fr Ashley who was granted permission to start his own Order by the local ordinary Bishop McHugh.
Of course McHugh ONLY wanted the property and managed to get the deed through the Knights of Columbus and his Chancellor the filthy mouthed Monsignore Checcio , now Bishop Checcio of Metuchen Diocese. McHugh sent in a Fr Pasley to help Fr Ashley and report back to him how much money the Mission was making. He then was replaced by Bishop DeMerzio who kicked Fr Ashley out and made Pasley the pastor.
It was a horrible takeover and fraud by the Diocese and one of the deed holders who was very upset actually passed away at he time.
The Dimond brothers are NOT Brothers ,they are opportunistic frauds.
The TLM Mission Church parishioners are for the most part new Hispanic and older Italians who are clueless of the parish’s real history and the sexually disordered clique of priests that are in the Diocese placed there by the late Bishop McHugh.
John was married in the SSPX by Hewko and both Randy and I met at his wedding and backyard reception.
If i did not live in the area and know all the people involved ,including the lovely Catholic woman who was part of the original deed holders and passed away during the internal upheaval , I would not have known the real history behind the fake Dimond quick convert fake Religious either.
Apologies for all the typos above. I had to type quickly because I am really sad to see all the confusion among fellow Catholics. I really does help to know who is who. While M Dimond may have absconded with some good old Catholic reference books from the deceased Bro Natali’s library, he is not in anyway an educated cradle Catholic or even a genuine Religious. Over six hundred thousand dollars was discovered in Natali’s bedroom when he died there of a heart attack. Where that money went no one seemed to know. I should add Brio Natali was a real Benedictine monk who left his Order and started the original Most Holy Family Monastery in Berlin NJ coincidentally on Cross Keys Rd now far from where we resided. There are so many rightly disillusioned post Vatican Two Catholics that the illicit TLM has become a profitable business as have phony priests monks and even Bishops.
That’s horrible Sweep. This is why I’m afraid that if the head of the Church has been somehow removed than She has died. Ofcourse, She will be resurrected just as our Lord was but Novus Ordo isn’t Catholic due to heresy. This is from Satis Cognitum: The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative Magisterium. Epiphanius, Augustine, Theodoret, drew up a long list of the heresies of their times. St. Augustine notes that other heresies may spring up, to a single one of which, should any one give his assent, he is by the very fact cut off from Catholic unity. “No one who merely disbelieves in all (these heresies) can for that reason regard himself as a Catholic or call himself one. For there may be or may arise some other heresies, which are not set out in this work of ours, and, if any one holds to one single one of these he is not a Catholic” (S. Augustinus, De Haeresibus, n. 88).
But it also says this: “The unity of the Church is manifested in the mutual connection or communication of its members, and likewise in the relation of all the members of the Church to one head” (St. Thomas, 2a 2ae, 9, xxxix., a. I).
So I don’t see how the Church can be anywhere else either. It’s a problem; our Blessed Mother said to pray the Rosary. Until we have a pope, I don’t see any other options.
Although I did intimate the source of the video should be disregarded by
‘putting it aside”, for your sake Sweep I promise no more links to the DBros. However, I do appreciate and enjoy reading the insider information you often provide.
In your defense LennyB, Sweep has posted information about Freemasonry from John Salza that may have been accurate and I don’t think that he is any more trustworthy than the Dimond brothers. I think it’s fairly obvious that JPII wasn’t the Antichrist since he’s dead but it is very accurate that Assisi was what, heretical, sacrilegious, worshiping false gods, desecration, have I missed anything?
You just missed the remediation part ; ) http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A430rcAssisi1986.html
Melanie , I am still doing research.
I believe I posted about Marie Julie JaHenney. Fr Ripperger more recently mentioned that the Church should look into her life in more detail because in her time the Bishop of Nantes approved of her .
About thirty years ago I was given a copy of a booklet concerning her prophecies and life first written by the Marquis de Franquerie and his wife who knew her during her lifetime. A priest in NY gave it to a friend of mine at the time.
I read it and in one picture she is seen kissing a relic of the tip of the true Lance of Logenies (sp?) . Several years later I was invited to a private dinner with Prince Henri de Bourbon Parma (ala Sixtus) , nephew of Empress Zita an one of two or three contending heirs to the throne of France if they still had a monarchy.
I was seated between him and his translator the son of a French owned large farm equipment company. I pulled out that booklet and asked him about Marie Julie and showed him the copy of the photo and he told me, “Yes, the niece of the marquis still has the relic in her possession it was retrieved prior to the destruction of Le Biblioteque (sp? ) just prior to the storming of the Bastille.” i cross referenced it with the book “Relics’ by Joan Carol Cruz and found that indeed it disappeared during the French Revolution ,the remaining parts and a blueprint of the broken tip are in the Vatican.
I will look to see if the booklet in it’s entirety is posted online.
Marie Julie talks about all the changes in the Liturgy that were to come.She implicates the Jewish Masonic Lodges in the formulas of the wordings.
She talks about the Chastisement and interestingly suggests some remedies for afflictions of anxiety and heart ailments people will suffer during those times.
She mentions St john’s Wort and Hawthorne berries both of which have since become popular as herbal treatments.
She talks about the church that will appear to have been buried in a tomb but with the help of Our Holy Mother will resurrect again.
I do not know if this edition is exactly what I have but you might find it of interest.
Melanie and anyone else interested .I believe this is the same as the booklet copy given to me some thirty years ago. It might be somewhat confusing but the changes in the Mass that was to come are clearly described as are other ecclesial changes.
Your very welcome Lenny B . I am older and have been paying close attention to our Church especially since 1963 when our Church pastor took on the responsibility of teaching our 6th ,7th and 8th grade religion classes. He gave us a blow by blow daily update of what was being decided and talked about during V2. I apparently enraged him when I questioned the wisdom of not teaching seminarians the Rite of Exorcism any more , because ,” They know that Satan is not a real entity but instead evil is in the heart of man.” I simply asked how they expect the new priests to believe in God if there is no Lucifer or Satan?” As an adult my mother told me he called the house demanding to know what I was reading……….Yes Blunder I was reading the Bible because even back then I reasoned from my Baltimore Catechism questions that if “God made me to Know ,Love and Serve Him here on earth so I could be happy with Him in Heaven “, I better first get to Know all about Him so I can truly Love Him.
That is why I went into an eastern Rite when they bastardized the Mass I was raised in and in which I sung Gregorian chant in the choir .
Sadly, after getting to know the priests and Bishop very well ,after twenty years we discovered the same rampant plague of disordered priests and Bishops. I do mean RAMPANT . Average Catholic laity has zero understanding of just how many there are and how good priests have to evade them and or leave which many many have done. For the most part THEY are now in control.