On October 19th – less than a week after Francis insisted, “It’s not right to convince someone of your faith … proselytism is the strongest venom,” Professor Roberto de Mattei, in an article published at Rorate Caeli, posed the question:
To which Church does Pope Bergoglio belong?
Though he stopped short of providing a definitive answer of his own, he went on to quote Fr. Paulo Ricca, a pastor and theologian known for his ecumenical activities, as saying, “the Pope is going to Lund, to the home of the Lutherans; as if he were one of the family.”
Professor de Mattei offered no rebuttal; the implication, therefore, is quite clear – Pope Bergoglio may well be understood as belonging to that community of heretics known as the Lutherans.
That was bold enough, but on November 4th, the good professor appeared go a step further as he weighed-in on the recently concluded events in Lund.
Writing once more in an article published by Rorate Caeli, he said:
What surfaced during the ecumenical meeting between Pope Francis and the World Lutheran Federation on October 31st in Lund, seems to be a new religion.
In this, Professor de Mattei is suggesting that the words and deeds of Francis indicate that he more properly belongs to a heretical protestant sect of his own making; a “Bergoglian denomination” unto itself, if you will.
This is quite an allegation; especially when one considers the source.
Professor de Mattei is without question, in my opinion, on the right track in suggesting that one can discover to which Church Pope Bergoglio belongs simply by observing the way in which he interacts with non-Catholics.
Taking that same approach, I must insist that one would be mistaken to assume that Bergoglianism qualifies as a “Christian” sect; no matter how loosely one defines it.
Consider, for example, the so-called Address of His Holiness Pope Francis to Representatives of Different Religions given on November 3rd.
In an address of roughly 1,200 words, Francis saw fit to cite generic “religion” and “mercy” nearly a dozen times; even as he failed to invoke the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ – the personification of God’s mercy – even once.
The “authentic” religions, according to Francis, are those that practice “mercy” defined in strictly earthbound, humanistic, terms such as:
Fraternal service, sincere sharing, dialogue … Opposition to conflict, division, intolerance, misunderstanding, closed-mindedness, disrespect, violence and discrimination … Concern for those in sickness, disability, poverty, injustice, conflicts and migrations …
To this end, Francis called his audience’s attention to “the words of an ancient proverb: ‘Death is hard and stiff; life is soft and supple.’”
No, this isn’t a Biblical citation taken from the Old Testament Book of Proverbs inspired by Almighty God, but rather a quote from Tao-Te-Ching – the fundamental text of Taoism.
And what exactly is Taoism?
It is a pantheistic religion that reveres the “formless, unknowable guiding principal of all reality” known as the Tao, which literally means “the way.”
I should dare say that I need not elaborate further on the degree to which Bergoglianism is incompatible with Christianity; the worship of Jesus Christ who alone is the Way.
So, if not Our Blessed Lord, before whom do the practitioners of Bergoglianism bend their knee?
The founder tells us:
“To bow down with compassionate love before the weak and needy is part of the authentic spirit of religion…”
This is nothing new.
Readers may recall that this is the same Francis who refuses to genuflect before Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament at Holy Mass and yet urges Christians to “kneel in veneration when a poor person enters the church.”
So, then, it is clear: To which Church does Pope Bergoglio belong?
He belongs to the church-of-man.
Francis went on to exhort the “representatives of different religions” in his midst, “May this be the path we take.”
At this, I feel compelled to quote the final line from Professor de Mattei’s article about the “different religion” that emerged at Lund; making it my own:
We cannot follow Pope Francis along [this] different path.
My friends, think about just how far we have come…
In a matter of mere months following the introduction of Jorge Mario Bergoglio to the world as “Pope Francis,” it was made clear in this space that he is not just a member of the church-of-man; he is its illustrious leader and perhaps the boldest and most tireless evangelist it has ever had.
Saying so invited an onslaught of derision from numerous sources – others in Catholic media, various clergymen, and even my bishop. It eventually cost me my livelihood.
As for today?
What was once considered needlessly controversial is being repeated, in so many words, by men of impeccable stature like Roberto de Mattei, who has essentially declared that the Church to which Jorge Bergoglio belongs is not the Holy Catholic Church!
Let us hope and pray that this trend will continue – even to the point where Cardinals and Bishops will do likeiwse, taking whatever steps may be necessary to rid the Church of this dangerous interloper lest even one innocent soul follow him into perdition.
I live in a senior citizen apartment complex. I have a 93 year old neighbor woman who was brought up Traditional Catholic but now worships with the folks at the Salvation Army. I keep trying to convince her to return to the True Faith but she keeps quoting Jorge Mario Bergoglio . What is one to do-?
Louie, you are obviously a narrow-minded bigot who hates humanity. Don’t you realize that we are all part of the human race, regardless of color, religion or whatever? Come on now, as long as one had a good heart , or even a heart , he or she or whatever their preferred pronoun is a member of said race. Isn’t that enough to get everyone to Heaven? Of course it is and your being obstinate may just keep you out of Heaven. Maybe at one time there was one true Church but now that Church has morphed into the only one that counts: The Church of Man. Finally, we have arrived!
“We cannot follow Francis”. Of course not. We follow Jesus whose Church on earth is the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church. All roads lead to Rome. When Rome is demolished they may lead instead to Fatima, but it will always be the CC.
And the Church of man will bow down for Satan. And man will be lost forever.
I wish trads would stop quibbling whether bergolio is pope or not or if jp2 is or not. It simply doesnt matter. The consensus among trads is that the concilior church must be resisted and restored to the true faith. Recognizing is irrelevant. I urge all to focus on the true enemy of the Catholic faith. That is Vatican 2, the Novus Ordo, and Bergolio/aka pope francis. I would advise all true Catholics to simply have absolutely nothing more to do with the concilior Church. The sacraments are doubtful, the teachings are heretical, and your soul is at risk being exposed to so much error.
Sermon For The Ordinations
Ecône, Switzerland, June 29, 2002
By Bishop Bernard Tissier de Mallerais:
“…I conclude, so much in its dogmas than in its worship, the new religion has emptied our Catholic religion of its substance. The Passion of Our-Lord is used only to reveal in a very intellectual and abstract way the love of God the Father for us. As for the love of Christ for His Father or for us, one knows nothing of it. And then, in addition, the christian worship is only a memory. Thus to become aware in sum of the great work of the great feats of Christ, in taking so much care that this work becomes present in the assembly in prayer, like a common auto-consciousness.
This NEW RELIGION is nothing different, my dear faithful, than a GNOSTIC SECT. I think that it is the word which characterises it perfectly, since it is a religion without sin, without justice, without mercy, without penance, without conversion, without virtue, without sacrifice, without effort, but simply an auto-consciousness. It is a purely “intellectualist” religion, it is a PURE GNOSTIC SECT.
Then my dear future deacons and priests, be sure that I ordain you neither deacons, nor priests, to be deacons and priests of this gnostic religion. And I am persuaded that such was also your intention to receive the Catholic priesthood today, from the hands of the Catholic Church, and not to receive the gnostic priesthood from the hands of I do not know which gnostic system.
REJECT WITH HORROR, my dear faithful, my dear ordinands, THIS NATURAL RELIGION, THIS INTELLECTUALIST RELIGION, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CATHOLIC RELIGION, and be on the contrary very firm, always more firmly persuaded of the reason of our combat, of the reason of our priesthood.”
“How could it be more clear?! From now on it is the conciliar church one must obey and be faithful to and not to the Catholic Church. This is precisely our problem. We are suspended a divinis by the conciliar church, of which we do not want to be a part. This conciliar church is a schismatic church, because it breaks with the Catholic Church of all time. It has it’s new dogmas, it’s new priesthood, it’s new institutions, it’s new liturgy, already condemned by the Church in many official and definitive documents. This is why the founders of the conciliar church insist on obedience to the church of today, making abstraction of the Church of yesterday, as if it didn’t exist anymore. […] The church which affirms such errors is at one and the same time heretical and schismatic. This conciliar church is therefore not Catholic. In the measure in which the Pope, the bishops, priests or faithful adhere to this new church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church. The church of today is the true Church only in the measure in which it continues and is one with the Church of yesterday and of always. The norm for the Catholic faith is Tradition.”
“Which Church are we talking about? Are we talking about the Catholic Church, or another church, a Counter church, a counterfeit of the Church? Now, I think sincerely, that we are talking about a counterfeit version of the Church, and not the Catholic Church. It does not teach any longer the Catholic faith. It teaches something else, it leads the Church to something else other than the Catholic Church. It is not longer the Catholic Church. They are sitting in the chairs of their predecessors, […] but they are not continuing in the line of their predecessors. They no longer have the same faith, nor the same doctrine, nor the same morality as their predecessors. So it is no longer possible. And principally, their great error is ecumenism. They teach an ecumenism which is contrary to the Catholic faith. […] The Church is occupied by this counter- church which we know well and that the Popes knew perfectly, and that the Popes have condemned throughout the centuries; for what will be soon four centuries, the Church did not stop condemning this counter-church which was born especially with protestantism, and which was developed with protestantism, and which is at the origin of all modern errors, which has destroyed all philosophy, and which has led us to all the errors we have known, that the Popes have condemned; liberalism, socialism, communism, modernism, sillonism. We are dying from them. The Popes did everything to condemn that, and now behold those who are in the chairs of those who condemned these errors are in agreement with this liberalism and ecumenism. Now we cannot accept that. And the more things become clear, the more we perceive that this program […] all these errors, were elaborated in the masonic lodges.”
2 Peter 2
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their riotousnesses, through whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their perdition slumbereth not. ..
Bergoglio promotes the religion of freemasonry.
Bergoglio’s religion is one which is constantly recreated through interaction of man with nature, man with man, and man with God. (You can see in the way this is worded how homosexuals may be attracted to this conception of religion.) The hope of these modernists is that through the interaction of various religions, new religions may be created, and therefore new communities. And vice versa: through the interaction of different peoples, new communities are created, and from them new religions too. It’s the interaction (i.e. the dialogue) that makes the religion such that “becoming” is worshipped and not God as Being. It is placing “becoming” before “being.” Or it is a Being trying to realize, or actualize itself from “becoming.” Homosexuals make banal and idolize the interaction of “man with man.” The interaction of man with nature used to be called “divination.” It is man rediscovering or creating God. In short, it is idolatry.
And yet, as Ive been saying for at least three years on this site, the longer we keep acknowledging this degenerate as a Catholic Pope (and all of his degenerate vatican w predecessors), the longer we help to damn the souls of those who currently do not know any better—and think about all of those who have not known better since he was elected “pope” who have since died. You who have stubbornly continued to call this man a “pope” are complicit in their damnation. Sorry to be blunt but it is what it is.
Can. 211 All the Christian faithful have the duty and right to work so that the divine message of salvation more and more reaches all people in every age and in every land.
“It’s not right to convince someone of your faith … proselytism is the strongest venom,” Jorge Bergoglio
By what ever name , Jorge and his “cardinals” are false teachers, blind guides, a brood of vipers, sons of Satan.
The remnant faithful Catholic laity already know this.
If you are a priest reading this, then you are part of the problem if you are silent.
And by the way, even if you are a traditional priest saying the Latin Mass, don’t think that gets you off the hook. You cannot be silent – you must oppose this man.
Bergoglio’s motto is: “I will not serve!”
Jorge Bergoglio is a proud follower of Satan, attacking God, the Holy Faith and the most basic moral law of God and Nature on a continual basis. He promotes the satanic people and the satanic agends in government, politics, academia, Media, which is why they are celebrating him and his evil “religion”. I have seen Hell through Bergoglio and his evil work. Satanists and their perversion of sex took over shadow government of the institutions of the Church a long time ago, just as they have the temporal world power institutions. Satan was truly “unchained” and has taken over all man’s institutions. Reparation! Lord, save us. God, come to our aid. Man has shown contempt for God and basks in Satan and his demons. Dear Lord, let Thy Purge be soon and save all souls who would repent and believe. If it be Thy Will, though we do not deserve it, send us true holy priests, bishops, pope and religious. Let us not run from martyrdom.
OUTRAGED AT SIN ??
And behold, a woman in the city who was a sinner…stood at His feet behind Him weeping; and she began to wash His feet with her tears.
Learn here, that sin is a debt; and all are sinners, are debtors to Almighty God.
Some sinners are greater debtors; but whether our debt be more or less, it is more than we are able to pay.
Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary
If the Archbishop felt this way about the concilior hierarchy, why did he seek reconciliation with them?
I urge you to read the book “Lefebvre and the Vatican” (available at Angelus Press), which outlines the communication that occurred between the Vatican (primarily Ratzinger) and Apb. Lefebvre leading up to the Episcopal consecration of 1988. He was not so much seeking reconciliation with them but rather pleading and hoping that they reconcile with true Catholicism. At the very least he was seeking a water-tight agreement that would allow the Society to continue it’s work uninterrupted and safeguard its future. The book describes Lefebvre’s attempts to reason with Rome until he finally realised that his efforts were in vein and that he had to, as a shepherd of the flock, take certain actions to safeguard the faith.
Yet why does the SSPX seek reconcilliation with a heretical sect? Just because they sit in what was once the halls of the true faith. The vatican is just a bunch of buildings.
Jorge is surely of satan. I see it, you see it, the posters and the author of this site see it…..and yet we (in general) keep calling him “pope”. He needs to be denounced as an anti-pope by those of us who know and care about our Catholic Faith.
Its only my opinion, but I dont think that this word will ever become “more Catholic”. I firmly believe that things will continue to get worse. Our world, almost universally, murders unborn children…..we (collectively) deserve nothing from God here on earth.
The “church of man” began long before the rise of Jorge Bergoglio.
It began with the pontificate of Pope Pius XII when he gave the liturgical revolutionaries the green light to begin their eventual destruction of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the source and summit of our faith.
This was the essential first step in introducing the religion of man to the Catholic who, like the English Catholics in the time of Crammer, would be incrementally indoctrinated into it every time they went to Mass.
The obvious problem for the TRUE Catholic Church is that, if there is no pope, then there is no valid authority through the hierarchy on which all Catholic authority rests. How do we solve this riddle?
Who could disagree? However, at least Pius XII still condemned error and upheld some semblance of orthodoxy. His failure in trusting too much those within the hierarchy (concerning Liturgical renewal) can be forgiven. He was not a knowing party to their plan of destruction.
John XXIII intentionally plowed the road for the heresies of false ecumenism and false religious liberty to be woven into the Council’s designs. These became the dogmas of the Conciliar Church in 1965; all else has been abandoned. Paul VI formally promulgated these heretical VaticanII “dogmas.” These new dogmas were enforced beginning in 1965. Heretics (inside and outside of the hierarchy) were praised and the orthodox were punished beginning almost immediately. The only difference is that Francis is more bold and less concerned with appearances. The takeover of the hierarchy and most of its lay members is virtually complete. Only remnants remain.
JPII explicitly included all men as members of this new Conciliar Church as a result of Christ’s incarnation. Benedict XVII (slightly less radical but no less a heretic) included all baptized men as members of the Church by virtue of baptism regardless of denomination. Not only has the Mass been radically altered it is doubtful whether any of the Sacraments are still valid except for baptism and marriage (on a case by case basis). The Sacrifice of the Mass is no longer anything of the sort.
Those who persist in accepting these heretics as popes and their Vatican II heresies as dogmas must follow them. There is no choosing: Either they are (or were until death) Vicars of Christ and must be obeyed or they are heretics, no longer members of the Church and have no authority to bind any Catholic to anything they promulgate.
Yet many here continue to resist the obvious.
I pointed out the fact that possibly without the complicity of Pope Pius XII with the Progressive/Modernists and their agenda to destroy the true faith, there may never have been either a Vatican II which was clearly the vehicle these enemies of Christ used to foist the church of man upon us, but never the possibility of the apostate, Francis, sitting on the Chair of Peter.
Each successive pope has also contributed to the destruction of the true faith. They set the stage for the election of Francis and are as complicit as he is in des
Sorry – I failed to complete my last sentence.
They set the stage for the election of Francis and are as complicit as he is in destroying the true Catholic faith.
I wish I had a legitimate answer to provide. I dont.
Katherine makes two claims which are likely unsupportable :
1. Pius XII was actively and intentionally involved in the schemes of the progressives (Katherine used the more concise “complicity.”)
2. In the furtherance of this progressive conspiracy Pius XII committed specific acts (or failed to take specific actions) without which Vatican II (and its aftermath) may never have occurred.
In fact, dare I to say, that Katherine couldn’t support these claims if her life depended on it. Pius XII had failings (as do we all) but the “rats were in the walls” long before Pius XII held the keys. If Pius XII was indeed a progressive enemy along with the heretics that followed him then all need to know. The floor is now yielded to Katherine.
Explain that the Chair of St Peter is vacant.
Seriously, what else is there to say?
There have been hundreds of papal interregnums, and 40 or so antipopes in history.
We are so modern that we think that unusual situations of history couldn’t possibly happen in our time.
The teaching of the Church is clear and simple. Public heretics are not Catholics, and cannot hold any office in the Church. Bergoglio is a public heretic, ergo, he cannot hold the office of the Papacy.
A well known sede told me that once. It doesn’t matter what you think of the post VII popes; what matters is that you practice the Faith as it was before Vatican II, because that is the only certainty. Have nothing to do with the new religion. Do not go to the new mass. Unfortunately we cannot approach priests ordained in the new 1968 rites of Paul VI, or who are ordained by a bishop concescrated in the new rite, as the Church forbids us to go to sacraments which are merely probable. They may be valid, but we don’t know, so we can’t go.
Since Vatican II, all must be treated as doubtful and suspect. All bets are off. One day the Church will decide all these issues. We are living in a mystery that has not been solved yet. In the meantime, this means SSPX or the other groups that have preserved valid orders and sacraments. If we can’t get to them, then it is like the Japanese who had no Mass or sacraments administered by the Church for over 200 years, but kept the Catechism, the Rosary, Baptism and Matrimony.
There must be a bit of tension between +Fellay and +Tissier de Mallerais.
+Tissier de Mallerais treats the new ordinations and episcopal consecrations as either invalid or gravely doubtful.
+Fellay is simply pragmatic. He is trying to make everything regular, and sets the mysteries and contradictions aside. He continues along the last known trajectory of +Lefebvre, who once earlier held that the Society could possibly take up the sedevacantist position one day.
The changes brought in under Pius XII were imprudent, but none of them denied or supressed any Catholic teaching. It simply opened up the principle of change, which was eventually used to actively supress Catholic doctrine in the new mass, and almost certainly produce an invalid mass with the tampering of the consecration of the chalice.
Pius XII did not teach any heresy, and is in a completely different universe to the men who came after him.