Pope Francis’ “Earth Day” exhortation

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1. Thanks, Louie,
   We needed a moment like this. We may not know whether to laugh or cry over some of those lines, but we carry a deep hope that when the Consecration of Russia get’s done, this type of change might not be too much to expect. It’s more motivation to keep Praying and making those daily offerings of Sacrifices as Our Lady requested.
   God Bless you.

2. The “Earth Day” ideology and Catholicism (including the Natural Law) are mutually exclusive.

3. A pope cannot be a heretic. I pray and fast for God’s will in regard to the current leaders of this world and my fellow citizens. “What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath, fitted for destruction, ” Romans 9:22 “For the scripture saith to Pharao: To this purpose have I raised thee, that I may shew my power in thee, and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.” Romans 9:17 “And the Lord said to Moses: Go in to Pharao; for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants: that I may work these my signs in him.” Exodus 10:1 “And the Lord hath not given you al heart to understand, and eyes to see, and ears that may hear, unto this present day. ” Deuteronomy 29:4 “Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. ” Matthew 13:13 “the rest have been blinded. As it is written: God hath given them the spirit of insensibility; eyes that they should not see; and ears that they should not hear, until this present day. And David saith: Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompense unto them. Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see” Romans 11:7-10 “And these three men (Noah, Daniel, Job) be in the midst thereof: as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they themselves alone shall be delivered.” Ezekiel 14:18 “The Lord hath made all things for himself: the wicked also for the evil day.” Proverbs 16:4 “Because the wicked man is reserved to the day of destruction, and he shall be brought to the day of wrath. ” Job 21:30 ” The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly from temptation, but to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be tormented.” 2 Peter 2:9 “And lead us not into temptation. But deliver us from evil. Amen. ” Matthew 6:13

   P.S. I’m celebrating the Solemnity of St. Joseph today.

4. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42711922/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/earth-day-co-founder-killed-composted-girlfriend/#.VTgAdebD8SJ
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Einhorn

5. All very much in compliance with the principles of “Earth Day”.

6. How many people who celebrate earth day believe in the current theories of evolution? If they do, they should believe that the earth regenerates itself no matter what life-forms walk across its face, and that the life-form known as the human being will be extinct billions of years before the sun dies out and the earth breathes a last sigh. Why bother celebrating that?

7. To those who know the true degree of wickedness behind the “climate change” agenda, this forthcoming encyclical could be a very big step toward tearing off the mask of the revolution within the Church.

   Though for those who can’t see through the mask thus far, perhaps not even the most blatant partnering up with the Church’s enemies will be enough.

   We shall see.

8. I agree that the contemporary ‘climate change’ cult is based on tortured digital data willing to ‘confess’ to any lie. The actually observed data constantly contradicts the computer models. The scientist who plainly observes through his in situ studies that the island shows no signs of being swallowed by the ocean, is constantly contradicted by the software scientist who insists, that the island is sinking (the software scientist is also paid about 100 times more than the in situ chap by some politcal force with an agenda).
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   http://www.thepiratescove.us/climate-change-data/
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   Still a rather cryptic comment, CraigV. Can you elaborate?

9. Only that the people at the top of the pyramid know that anthropogenic climate change/global warming is a lie.

   The lie is a means to am end. One end is “filthy lucre”…the scam of fleecing the masses with the carbon credit packet. Along those same lines is the “power” that the few at the top could gain over the masses.

   But the ultimate end is even more diabolical….mass De-population of the earth.

   It’s tied in with the evil behind Agenda 21.

   To think that the Vicar of Christ could be in on the scam is what I’m driving at. Is this possible? Or is there more to Benedict’s abdication than meets the eye?

10. Forgive me for the auto-spelling bloopers above. I’m on my phone.

11. http://youtu.be/TeMshRKDSkQ
    2min vid
    http://youtu.be/tD1QHO_AVZA
    Richard dawkins debates cardinal pell
    Watch from 28min 37 sec
    Cardinal pell answers question can atheists get to heaven 42min 20 sec
    http://youtu.be/lSDb7iBTg70
    1h 6mins vid kent hovind on creation (non catholic)

12. “To think that the Vicar of Christ could be in on the scam…”
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    Utlimately anyone in on the scam is in no way the Vicar of Christ. It is one thing to have lots of failings whether or not one of those failings is great ignorance; but it is entirely ‘other’ thing to be working to complete the ‘revolution’ – “The Masonic ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity became the Vatican II doctrines of religious freedom, collegiality, and ecumenism, which form the bedrock of the Novus Ordo religion.”
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    http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.VTiIMJPsdOU
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    The above article looks at the ‘end times’ as explained by the likes of Cardinal Manning and Fr Faber.
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    “[Many] shall fall from their fidelity to God. And how shall this come to pass? Firstly by fear, partly by deception, partly by cowardice, partly because they cannot stand for unpopular truth in the face of popular falsehood; partly because of an overruling contemptuous public opinion…[which] so subdues and frightens Catholics, that they dare not avow their principles, and, at last, dare not hold them…[there will be a] dethronement of the Vicar of Christ [which] is the dethronement of the hierarchy of the universal Church, and the public rejection of the Presence and Reign of Jesus…The direct tendency of all the events we see at this moment is clearly this, to overthrow Catholic worship throughout the world…” Cardinal Manning
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    Those who end up not ‘daring to hold’ Cathlic Truth have apostatised.

13. Just about the whole nation of the US (the entire west for that matter) is under the impression that Israel is their friend. In on it or duped?

14. We know the gates of hell cannot prevail. So by dethronement I believe he means rendered ineffective due to the things he mentioned. Jesus said, forgive them Father for they know not what they do. That’s why it is important to pray for our leaders. NOwatch would have us believe that the hierarchy is our enemy and therefore withdrawal prayer for them. St. Paul said flesh and blood is not what we are fighting, but principalities.

15. I suppose that would depend on how close to the top of pyramid they are.

16. Well, I would agree that NO watch would have us believe the hierarchy is the enemy. I personally dont see how most of the hierarchy isnt the enemy. I would however disagree with you that they would have us not pray for them.

17. Since I don’t go to sedevacantist chapels I can only assume that since they reject Francis as Pope then they do not pray for him in the greatest prayer given to man, the Holy sacrifice of the Mass? Nor have they prayed for Popes before him, correct? Would this not also be a rejection of Christ the King, since the Pope is the vicar of Christ?

18. How come every single comment section in Louie’s blog now digresses into sedevacantism being crammed down everyone’s throat?

19. Francis, it seems, is breathing life into the sedevacantis thesis. Both for the sedes who believe the seat has been vacant since John XXIII, and for those who suspect Benedict XVI’s abdication was “invalid.” Either way, alot of folks are trying to make some sense of the words and actions of the current apparent Bishop of Rome, which seem impossible to reconcile with Our Lord’s promise.

    Things be comin’ to a head.

20. The first mark of the true Church is “One” – “There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call—one Lord, ONE FAITH, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all”

    Canon of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass prior to liturgical changes (that I attend & sedes use): “We…pray…Thee…to accept and bless…these…holy unspotted Sacrifices which in the first place we offer Thee for Thy holy Catholic Church to which vouchsafe to grant peace, as also to preserve, unite, and govern it throughout the world, one with (una cum) Thy servant our Pope N, and our Bishop N, and ALL ORTHODOX BELIEVERS and PROFESSORS of the Catholic and Apostolic Faith.”

    Since Frances professes (and preaches and teaches) ANOTHER faith (as every one of Louie’s blogs on him points out), how can anyone true to Jesus Christ and His Church state they are ONE with him? Your misunderstanding of sedes leaving out the una cum w/the pope and not praying for the soul* of Bergoglio could be because of “the changes” made by those you trust to pass on the faith to you and yours (i.e. w/life of your immortal soul):

    (P)Euch1: “we offer you firstly for your holy catholic Church. Be pleased to grant her peace, to guard, unite and govern her throughout the whole world, together (one) with your servant N. our Pope and N. our Bishop,* and all those who, holding to the truth, hand on the catholic and apostolic faith.”
    (P)Euch2: “Remember, Lord, your Church, spread throughout the world,
    and bring her to the fullness of charity, together with N. our Pope and N. our Bishop* and all the clergy.”
    (P)Euch3: “Be pleased to confirm in faith and charity your pilgrim Church on earth, with your servant N. our Pope and N. our Bishop,* the Order of Bishops, all the clergy, and the entire people you have gained for your own.”
    (P)Euch4: “Therefore, Lord, remember now all for whom we offer this sacrifice: especially your servant N. our Pope, N. our Bishop,* and the whole Order of Bishops, all the clergy, those who take part in this offering, those gathered here before you, your entire people, and all who seek you with a sincere heart.”
    http://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/catholic_mass_full_text.php#preface

    *Another good research project is how many references to “soul” were taken out of the NO Funeral Mass.

21. It’s a good idea to read everything about the Marks of the Church in the Catechism of the Council of Trent. That way you can know not only what they are, but what they are not. If you memorize the Marks as they are taught in the Catechism then you can better refute a lot of sedevacantist’s arguments, at least for your peace of soul.

    I agree with JamesTheLesser about the comments really going off topic. I wish more writers would come on here to help souls to be steadfast during this scandalous era.

22. Exactly, Louie could you possibly do something about this? Otherwise your blog is going to be a Sedevacantist Haven.

23. I trust that Mr. V. welcomes us long time commentors who hold the position that we have been in a state of interregnum for quite some time because he knows that we are Catholics, as we recognize that those who do not hold that position are Catholics as well.

24. JamesTheLesser

    And how can one rail against the true Vicar of Christ (as you call Bergoglio), like we do en masse on this site, and still consider him the true Vicar of Christ? This is how the sedevacantist sees it: it is morally impossible to defame Bergoglio’s PUBLIC teachings/words/etc WHILE still believing he is a valid pope (as per Catholic Dogma). If I am personally “digressing into sedevacantism” I will only say that this was not my goal. I frequent this site daily, as it is a great place to further learn the Faith, but post infrequently…and am not trying to sway anyone towards my way of seeing the reality of the situation as I see it (though I hope that people do eventually see what I see).

25. I second Christopher’s comment: Louie provides a valuable service to Catholics searching for Truth in this confusing era. But every statement is intercepted by sedevacantists who repeat their argument and co-opt every discussion. There are many intelligent posters who no longer comment on this site, to the detriment of all of us. Why is it that most of us can make one or two comments on a post, or just try to read and absorb, yet those with some agenda (or lack of their own blog) post repeatedly on every comment, returning all comments to ‘sedevacantism’ or just personal stream-of-consciousness chat?

26. marykpkj

    Do you believe that Pope Francis is true to the Faith? Do you believe that Nostra Aetate is heretical? Is Nostra Aetate a significant piece of Vatican 2? Has Pope Francis not embraced the fullness of Vatican 2? How, if he has, is he not a heretic? Can any heretic be the pope? You seem to be bashing a group of people who will not abandon the Faith. I dont understand what your goal here actually is.

27. ps marykpkj

    You state that this era is confusing. Why would anyone who abides by the Faith be confused? There is nothing confusing at all going on right now….it is as clear as day, as to what is taking place, as long as you abide by the Truth. Rome is full of heretics, including the “pope”, who have abandoned, or never cared to learn, their Faith….end of story….and also end of “this confusing era.”

28. Dear de Maria numquam satis,
    We know Louie does, because he has stated his intentions to make this a place of open discussion among people of diverse opinions, despite expecting occasional flare-ups to result.
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    At any rate, you don’t qualify as one of those whom James described above -who seem to want to “cram” it down people’s throats. You stand out for your tact and kindness, and would more likely offer us a cup of your Puerto Rican Coffee, than beat us over the head with a sermon.
    🙂 🙂 God Bless

29. We’ve already gone through this before. The neo-catholic minders of this blog always add little comments when sede-vacantism issues are implicitly raised by a post along the lines of “although the apparent deviation from the faith of those holding teaching offices in the Church is terrible, sedevacantism should never be considered.” Or, another one I like, “a friend of mine was flirting with sedevacantism after he became disillusioned with office holder x’s apparent heresy but I persuaded him that by embracing sv the heretics in office win because sedevacantism is actually a worse heresy”. Then, when those who know that there is NO DOGMATIC TEACHING THAT AN OFFICE IN THE CHURCH IS NOT TO BE HELD TO BE VACANT BECAUSE AN APPARENT MANIFEST AND PERTINACIOUS HERETIC HOLDS THE OFFICE UNTIL THE CHURCH DECLARES THE OFFICE VACANT point out the fact that a Bull, pre-VII canon law, saints and doctors of the Church all teach the opposite that an office does become vacant ipso facto when an office holder professes heresy from the office they go all SPLC on sedes.
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    Just follow the neo-catholics and their “solution” to the apostasy in the Church – continue recognizing the NO as a valid rite of the Catholic Church and calling Cardinal X and Pope Y Cardinal X and Pope Y instead of Heretic X or Heretic Y and I guarantee the institutional Church you belong to will fade into oblivion while those who hold to the true faith will be initially banished to the peripheries and then later martyred. The neo-catholic approach in other words is to continue doing the same thing and expect a different result – a working definition of insanity.
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    So if the neo-catholic minders don’t want to have to deal with sede comments in the blog posts they can stop their minding task and not mention sedevacantism at all, or do what the blog owner already requested, confine off-topic disputes to the forum.

30. Christ is King. But we can choose another authority to follow with our free will. Ironcially, Montini literally took off the papal tiara in a public act of ‘dethronement’ in 1963, symbolising surrender to temporal power. It hasn’t been worn since. What are we to make of this?
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    In this talk between John Vennari and Louie Verrechio ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOlfGig0J7Q&list=PLtLZ3BcBezkJRQZ4LuQOJgOa3bnG7Ragi&index=5 ) Louie reminds us that Christ’s Kingship is what gives the Church her mission. ‘All power is given to Me in heaven and in earth…Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’ This is a command from the Risen Christ, King of Kings, to bring all nations and its people into His Church. ‘Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.’ I don’t see how the act of Montini could be anything other than a betrayal of this mission. To me, this act seems to outright deny Christ’s fundamental command to His first Pope and His Bishops. What else could have been going on? The doctrine of the ‘convergence’ of Catholicism with false-faiths and the ‘world’ in general that VII enforces is, without a doubt, a denial of Christ’s command.
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    Also interesting, the above interview addresses the use of, ‘My Kingdom is not of this world’, which many people use to deny an earthly Kingdom, but it is pointed out that Christ’s Kingdom comes from Heavenly authority which is above all wordly authority, but it has been established in the world, to baptise ‘Kaisar’ and make him a disciple as well.
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    PS. I can’t remember reading a recommendation on Novus Ordo Watch not to pray for our enemies – even if we are somewhat confused about who exactly they are.

31. Hello, de Maria. Thanks for reminding me of the word ‘interregnum’: ‘a period when normal government is suspended, especially between successive reigns or regimes.’
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    There has certainly been a ‘suspension’ of the promulgation of authentic Faith and Worship under the rule of the Novus Ordo. The ‘convergence’ (to achieve union or a common conclusion) with the world taught by the Novus Ordo ‘government’ since the 1960s is in direct contradiction to Conversion – taught by the Magisterium established in Christ.

32. Well said Cyprian. The subject is supremely important – of paramount importance. The false, masonic religion has eclipsed the Church. The NO religion is diabolical and leading poor souls to hell. The evidence is mountainous for all who have eyes to see. What could be more important than to fight for the Catholic Faith of our Fathers? One soul saved would amply justify one’s existence. Please read Fr. Villa’s work to see just how diabolical the whole NO is. Just read “Padre Pio and Fr. Villa”, “A Letter to Cardinals” and “Francis” to get an idea of the satanic horror of what is really going on and then tell me a Catholic, who received the grace to be a soldier of Christ in his Confirmation, should sit idly by and prefer polite chatter. http://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/

33. Of course the Pope can be a heretic, material or formal. We’ve had both in the past. But A) it’s not up to us laity to judge him it’s up the proper church authority B) papal infallibility only covers very narrow parameters. Heck, the first Pope denied Christ. We’ve had some uber evil doozies…murderers, fornicators, liars etc. God bless~

34. Rather than just falsely accusing with sheer nonsense by accusing your critics as neo-catholics (which is really what you are), why don’t you and your friends stop derailing every posting and turning it into a Sedevacantist platform.

    Sorry Louie, but I’m not visiting this site again. I wish you all the best. God be with you

35. Dear marykpkj,
    We’re not sure if our own frequent postings have been part of what you have in mind while with this complaint, but assuming they may have been, we’d like to apologize for any aggravation that may have caused you.
    — We love to research and share what we learn and try to stay very on-topic, but would definitely not be among those you noted who only post once or twice and keep it short. We’re not sure Louie would agree with the restrictions you would prefer, as he has thanked us a couple of times now – once mentioning he learns a lot from our posts himself, and he must be aware of the frequency and length of them. But if they do bother you, please let us know here, and we’ll try to do a better job of keeping them shorter. Can’t make any promises about the frequency, but then there ARE two of us, so we should at least be allowed double the usual rate, no? 🙂 🙂

36. Dear maryk,
    Just something to think about …
    Though you’re right to be critical of some of the demeanors we’ve seen lately–attack mode–instead of conversation, don’t you have to admit that the sede position is not at all OFF topic these days?
    If we’re not mistaken Louie himself asked in one of his more recent posts–something like How can this man be Catholic ? referring to Pope Francis.
    Doesn’t that invite sede-vacantists to comment not in the forum but right here? We agree it’s not very enjoyable when it turns all preachy and holier than thou, as it has recently with some. But Louie has said he welcomes that ongoing conversation.

37. Those aren’t false accusations. There are posters here who like to throw gratuitous anti-sedevacantist statements into their comments BEFORE anyone else raises the issue of sedevacantism.

38. Sorry for the duplicate post: Here is my comment in the right place.
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    Those aren’t false accusations. There are posters here who like to throw gratuitous anti-sedevacantist statements into their comments BEFORE anyone else raises the issue of sedevacantism.

39. Judging from all the fanciful opinions and novelties being articulated by certain “types” throughout this site, both liturgically and doctrinally, it is self-evident that an astonishing broad-spectrum of those who claim membership in the Mystical Body, ranging from deluded neo-con “Catholic” Answers devotees to feverish Dimond Brothers sede-minions, are completely queer for that bankrupt fantasy of modernism known as evolution and its equally satanic conjoined twin, heliocentrism (neither of which are compatible with Catholic Truth).

40. Hey, Inquisitor P,
    Thanks a lot for the cut and paste puzzle-we LOVE word games.
    Used EVERY letter!
    Did we unscramble it right? :

    it is from that completely queer, enraging, feverish bankrupt, fantasy of modernism devotees- known as evolution, and its equally Dim satanic-minions conjoined twin-heliocentrism (fanciful opinions and novelties being articulated by certain deluded “types” who claim an astonishing broad-spectrum of Judging compatible with Catholic Truth) that self-evident “Catholic” Answers from all the Brothers throughout this site, which are those in the Mystical Body both liturgically and doctrinally, neither second nor deem too hip For fat, sober men.

    Is there a prize? 🙂 🙂

41. Dear Indignus,
    Well done! LOL! I was completely stumped! 🙂 🙂

42. Who are the oft mentioned Diamond Bros?
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    PS. Vatican II officially approved ‘fanciful opinnions’, and ‘novelties’.

43. above reply to InquisitorP

44. Dear sede haters, Where were you at the DC March for Marriage? Evangelical Hispanics and Protestants outnumbered the N.O. Catholics 95 to one. Could be there were more N.O. bishops giving speeches there than there were geriatric Catholic marchers.

    P.S. I am still awaiting an apology that sedes don’t pray for Bergoglio. I am also wondering how none of you have any comments on the changes to the Canon of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass or can’t you see that YOU are actually being used to PRAY for ALL the changes Louie is blogging about (which now include burying a dog as a Catholic) not to mention giving the protestant governor of Illinois communion or being in the same church that ADVOCATES abortion (Danneels & all the politicians getting communion and being buried as Catholics). Amazing how you would rather march with a heretic than admit the truth.
    P.P.S. For recognize and resisters, this video is a must see:
    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/truth-about-the-sspx-mc-similar-groups/#.VTwDJ-bD8SI

45. See my post below w/must see video
    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/

46. Dear TWN,
    We’re not among those you’ve listed above, because we don’t hate anyone, and in fact truly would like to see all divisions cease in the Church, by everyone coming to know the Truth, and then doing God’s will. Obviously there are major disagreements about the things you mention above and more.
    —If you really are passionate about the Faith, and are sharing your ideas out of love for people you think need to hear them, how is it helpful to address people as “haters”, demand apologies for what they say in general that offended you personally, and then proceed to beat up the straw-man you contruct, which takes them “all” in making every word of your statement sound like it’s coming from a very bitter, hateful, resentful person who is out to make others feel belittled in intelligence, Faith, and genuineness of intentions. THIS kind of rant is what the posters we’ve seen objecting to the take-over of Louie’s blog by sede’s -as some of them see it- have every reason to dislike. It not only gives sede’s a bad name, but really achieves nothing more in the way of convincing those who believe other than you do, that you are on the right track, and they are not. Our Lords first law is one of love.
    Tough love doesn’t belittle, it speaks truth firmly. There’s a big difference between that, and what we see in your paragraph above.
    We hope you’ll re-read it and assess it for the qualities it’s missing, which would induce others to actually have a meaningful conversation with you, that would allow those matters you really care about, to be discussed by anyone who cares to join you. Intimidation isn’t going to bring that about.

47. Well, I don’t know what to call people who ask for my posts to be deleted because they are “sede” posts. Who say they are leaving the site if my posts are not deleted. Who say that “sedes” don’t pray for the pope. And at least one other person chimes in to agree w/them. Those aren’t ‘straw’ posts. Those are the intimidating posts. I don’t see you dealing substantively with any of my posts. It doesn’t matter to me whether you do or not, but to eliminate posts because they are ‘sede’ as if that is a reason in and of itself to delete them is pretty crazy — especially when all we do all day long anymore is quote the heresies coming out of the mouth of the person occupying the chair of St. Peter – but you want to shoot the child stating that the emperor has no clothes rather than admit the emperor has no clothes.

48. Michael Voris would have us simply watch the Emperor with no clothes and say nothing – and if we are to look away from the pope out of shame, then he is no longer visible to us and thereby pointless. Voris used, in his attack on his bretheren, the example of ‘covering up Noah’s nakedness’. But, unlike Noah, Bergoglio does not want his ‘nakedness’ covered, he glories in his scandalising.
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    Priests and Bishops who have concluded ‘sede-vacante’, such as Bishop Sanborn of the Most Holy Trinity Seminary and Fr Cekada of Saint Gertrude the Great, are orthodox Catholics minsitering the sacraments and keeping the Faith. Because they haven’t investigated many of the ordained men who concluded ‘the chair is still empty’, most don’t consider that these men were at ground zero through the ‘silent apostatising’ of the majority, not all, but the majority of an entire generation of Churchmen. They followed Archbishop Lefebrvre out of that crucible of apostasy. They watched as men claiming the chair of St Peter worked to destroy the Church, worshipped with the devil, and preached modernism. The sedevacantist came to be called that because, what he could not agree on with the SSPX is that we resist someone we recognise as the Vicar of Christ (at any rate they could not recognise Christ or His Vicar in those ‘popes’). However, along with the SSPX, resist they must because the men instigating an ‘auto-demolition’ of Church are the enemies of the Faith. Paul VI’s ‘smoke of satan’ is something one with a ‘sense of the Faith’ chokes on in the average NO parish (Montini must have had his tongue in his cheek when he ‘lamented’ that smoke since he was the one who laid the red carpet for satan and gave him a guided tour). The Sedevacantist’s, like the SSPX, resist the heresies and abominations by keeping the Faith, preaching the Truth, condemning heresy and offering the Mass (without the ’55 and ’62 innovations). They do not, however, offer up to God during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the name of Bergoglio as if he were a ‘Faithful servant’. For them, this is a lie and has no place during the Holy Sacrifice.
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    We have reached a point where ‘catholic’ has been reduced to a nominal idea so effective has been Paul VI’s invitation to satan. 60 years of anti-Christ modernism imposed upon Mass goers from the pulpit, from the sanctuary, from the pews, from the ‘popes’, from the Cathedrals has all but completely evaporated our ‘sense of the Faith’. Any priest or layman, who stands up for the restoration of the Faith should be embraced.
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    PS. Vatican II and its New Order, could be said to have seceded from the True Faith when it embraced the ‘judgement’ of the ‘spirit of the age’ in opposition to the perennial Doctrines, Discipline and Worship of Holy Mother Church. Vatican II, it seems to me, can be likened to the ‘private judgement’ doctrine of Protestantism. Private Judgement, like the ‘spirit of the age’ is transitory and will continue to secede from what preceded it. The Novus Ordo Church was put into a process of perpetual secession based on the ‘private judgement’ of one New Order pope after another. Bergoglio has already seceded from JPII and Benedict. JPII seceded from Paul VI in many matters, from mixing Catholic and devil worship to permitting altar girls etc. Paul VI and John XXIII seceded from every pope that went before by inviting into the Church the ‘synthesis of all heresies’. When protestants don’t like the church to which they belong, they secede and start a new one. Rebellion (revolution) against that which precedes is Protestantism. It is difficult not to see the popes of Vatican II and the Novus Ordo as substantially Protestant, and thereby, with no claims to spiritual authority, even if they have a great deal of earthly authority. There are still remnants within the Novus Ordo of that which preceded it, but those remnants are quickly disappearing.

49. At any rate, if there are Catholic Priests offering Mass in as unadulterated manner as they possibly can, working for Restoration of the Faith, telling the Truth about the Faith, living the Faith and shepherding their flock with their lives, these are the Priests we should be supporting. Ideally no one should be supporting Bergoglio in his errors, or any Bishop in his errors, or any priest in his errors or any layman in his errors. So who can tell us who is in error these days?

50. Dear TWN,
    We’re not attacking the messenger, we’re trying to help you, and everyone else who likes Louie’s blog, to take a look at what happens when retaliation becomes the rule.
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    You ask what you should “call” a person who… followed by listing more criticisms of a particular commenter. That’s our point. You don’t have to “call” that person anything derogatory or indicative of your judging their internal motives. You can point out what’s wrong from a Christian point of view with their behavior, if anything is, and then calmly go on explaining your point of view, in a way that demonstrates to everyone reading, how we should all behave towards one another, as followers of Christ. Holding a “them first” attitude about that, get’s us nowhere good.
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    There will likely always be some popping in to goad and provoke . Some will be immature or even evil. Spot them and avoid engaging them, or expect to have to exercise extreme patience, while pointing out what is immoral about that behavior once or twice. If it persists, what is the use of continuing to engage them? Just pray for them, and find another post to which you can respond expecting civility in return. We all win that way. The Soap operas disappear, and intelligent, respectful conversation prevails. Don’t demand answers from people you address. Respect their right to decline, as we sometimes do, without berating them for it. That’s all we’d like to see.
    Let Louie’s wishes prevail, that everyone is welcome here, who treats others respectfully.
    .

51. Thank you for your replies. In my haste left out most important part of my post – that main reason for attending March for Marriage was when realized April 25 is date set for Procession of the Greater Litanies followed by Rogation mass (which is about prayer, repentance and converting sinners), I attended to recite the litany and prayers. http://liturgialatina.blogspot.com/2011/04/april-25-greater-litanies.html
    Like at March for Life most people marched silently or laughing & talking among themselves w/occasional cheer or evangelical slogan in Spanish. What is the difference between “marches” and prayerful processions that beseech God for blessings upon our nation? N.O. would tell us these marches are the SAME. Just like Eucharistic Prayers above are the same as 2000 year old Canon: “we offer Thee for Thy holy Thy holy Catholic Church to which vouchsafe to grant peace, as also to PRESERVE, unite, and govern it throughout the world”
    (1) we offer you firstly for your holy catholic Church. Be pleased to grant her peace, to guard, unite and govern her throughout the whole world
    (2) Remember, Lord, your Church, spread throughout the world, and bring her to the fullness of charity
    (3) Be pleased to confirm in faith and charity your pilgrim Church on earth
    (4) remember now all for whom we offer this sacrifice
    2000 year old Canon: ”ALL ORTHODOX BELIEVERS and PROFESSORS of the Catholic and Apostolic Faith.”
    (1) all those who, holding to the truth, hand on the catholic and apostolic faith”
    (2) and all the clergy
    (3) the entire people you have gained for your own
    (4) those who take part in this offering, those gathered here before you, your entire people, and all who seek you with a sincere heart.
    http://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/catholic_mass_full_text.php

    The mission of the Church for 2000 years : “And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”

    Now w/Francis: “SAVE The EARTH”

    I agree, VCII hierarchy and clergy are purposely trying to confuse people. But one can only remain confused for so long. As Jesus said if you don’t believe my words, look at my works. Well, the works are 60 million murdered babies, $20 trillion debt, 50% divorce, 50% illegitimacy, homosexual ‘pride’ and slut walk processions, homosexuality, transgender and contraception taught to 1st graders & kindergarteners; S&M taught to middle-schoolers and “legalization” of: drugs, “assisted” suicide, death panels, unisex bathrooms in schools & places accessible to children, bestiality, homosexual and polygamous marriage and adoption, — and that is just the United States. Prayer & fasting are serious business–not just some “safe” way to conclude a blog post. Also prayer not an excuse to take place of action–like praying that someone will stop stealing when taking place right in front of you and could do something(James 2:16-17) — i.e. how many who ask Louie to remove sede posts have gone to their priests and said they won’t attend/belong to a church that gives communion to those who profess and legislate abortion, contraception, divorce and remarriage, homosexual marriage, etc.
    “Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven.” Matt 12:31
    [31] The blasphemy of the Spirit: The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church.
    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/47012.htm

52. Thank you for your replies. In my haste left out most important part of my post – that main reason for attending March for Marriage was when realized April 25 is date set for Procession of the Greater Litanies followed by Rogation mass (which is about prayer, repentance and converting sinners), I attended to recite the litany and prayers. http://liturgialatina.blogspot.com/2011/04/april-25-greater-litanies.html
    Like at March for Life most people marched silently or laughing & talking among themselves w/occasional cheer or evangelical slogan in Spanish. What is the difference between “marches” and prayerful processions that beseech God for blessings upon our nation? N.O. would tell us these marches are the SAME. Just like Eucharistic Prayers above are the same as 2000 year old Canon: “we offer Thee for Thy holy Thy holy Catholic Church to which vouchsafe to grant peace, as also to PRESERVE, unite, and govern it throughout the world”
    (1) we offer you firstly for your holy catholic Church. Be pleased to grant her peace, to guard, unite and govern her throughout the whole world
    (2) Remember, Lord, your Church, spread throughout the world, and bring her to the fullness of charity
    (3) Be pleased to confirm in faith and charity your pilgrim Church on earth
    (4) remember now all for whom we offer this sacrifice
    2000 year old Canon: ”ALL ORTHODOX BELIEVERS and PROFESSORS of the Catholic and Apostolic Faith.”
    (1) all those who, holding to the truth, hand on the catholic and apostolic faith”
    (2) and all the clergy
    (3) the entire people you have gained for your own
    (4) those who take part in this offering, those gathered here before you, your entire people, and all who seek you with a sincere heart.
    http://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/catholic_mass_full_text.php

    The mission of the Church for 2000 years : “And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”

    Now w/Francis: “SAVE The EARTH”

    I agree, VCII hierarchy and clergy are purposely trying to confuse people. But one can only remain confused for so long. As Jesus said if you don’t believe my words, look at my works. Well, the works are 60 million murdered babies, $20 trillion debt, 50% divorce, 50% illegitimacy, homosexual ‘pride’ and slut walk processions, homosexuality, transgender and contraception taught to 1st graders & kindergarteners; S&M taught to middle-schoolers and “legalization” of: drugs, “assisted” suicide, death panels, unisex bathrooms in schools & places accessible to children, bestiality, homosexual and polygamous marriage and adoption, — and that is just the United States. Prayer & fasting are serious business–not just some “safe” way to conclude a blog post. Also prayer not an excuse to take place of action–like praying that someone will stop stealing when taking place right in front of you and could do something(James 2:16-17) — i.e. how many who ask Louie to remove sede posts have gone to their priests and said they won’t attend/belong to a church that gives communion to those who profess and legislate abortion, contraception, divorce and remarriage, homosexual marriage, etc.
    “Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven.” Matt 12:31
    [31] The blasphemy of the Spirit: The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church.

53. Dear TWN,
    I get what you are saying and I agree with you.

54. There is no comparison between heresy by a pope and St Peter denying knowing Out Lord out of fear for his life, which he repented of, and this before, the Descent of the Holy Spirit upon him and the other apostles.

55. God bless your corporal and spiritual works of mercy. I live in Ireland but had my name on a banner that the American organisation, Tradition, Family and Property had on the March for Marriage.

56. PTL & Lynda, thanks for your kind remarks and encouragement, and also, Lynda, for supporting the March from Ireland. God bless you also.

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