– The darkened intellect of the liberal left
– The Holy Father’s “traditional” homily
– And finally, could the blinders finally be falling off of our “conservative” friends?
See January Newsletter of EWTN program host Marcus Grodi
News and Notes
January 20, 2015
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Thank you for an excellent reflection, and to the link to the inspiring Mr Marcus Grodi, from whom I have learned so much over the years watching The Journey Home…a superb example of speaking the truth in love, all well reasoned,and well articulated.
I hope and pray that his letter to the Vatican is the spark needed to enkindle the flame to produce encyclically clear instruction on the need for everyone to make that crucial Journey Home to the One True Faith
Thanks for the video. I know that it takes time and effort to put something like this together, so it’s greatly appreciated.
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That letter from Marcus Grodi is a bit of a stunner to me. I bailed on EWTN a little over a year ago, but it used to be a big part of my life. The response is garbage. It is 100% impossible to reconcile Francis’ words about heretics in the light of Mortalium Animos. On the other hand, my cat could cough up a hairball that could be reconciled with Evangelium Gaudi in five seconds flat, so that’s probably what the writer meant. By the way, since when did Evangelium Gaudi become an encyclical?!?!? At this rate, it will be in the New Testament by the end of the decade.
THEY COUNT ROSARIES, DON’T THEY?
Yowsa! Yowsa! Yowsa!
Here they are again, with a Pope
Ecumenical religious, kids
Aging but full of hope.
Yowsa! Yowsa! Yowsa!
As the clock of fate ticks away
A marathon dance of destiny
How much longer can they stay?
Yowsa! Yowsa! Yowsa!
It’s not a contest. It’s a show.
I may not know a winner
But the destruction of the Faith, I know.
Yowsa! Yowsa! Yowsa!
They’re the people of God on their perch
But there only can be one winner
And that’s Christ and His Catholic Church.
Yowsa! Yowsa! Yowsa!
“Why Tradition boy, the old way?”
“It’s not about old; it’s Truth, the Faith –
And they count Rosaries too, don’t they?”
(with apologies to They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?)
Don’t worry guys, a possible Vatican III will be the answer to the crisis our conservative friends are looking for!
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“This concern for the peripheries is the reason behind the rumor of papal trip to Erbil, Iraq: to meet Christian refugees. The upcoming encyclical on ecology – which the Pope made clear he will strive to complete in March – will certainly be filled with references to a missionary Church. Meanwhile it is also rumored that a first draft for the announcement of a Third Vatican Council is circulating, but no source has confirmed the report. However, other sources acknowledge the possibility of a papal documentthat would increase the limit of Cardinals voting in a conclave (i.e., Cardinals under the age of 80) from 120 to 140, thus increasing by 20 the limit that Paul VI established.”
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http://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-five-revealing-details
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Hopefully this stays a rumor.
It looks like Grodi and his ‘apostolate’ were satisfied with that response. Unbelievable really. But hey, if he’s happy, I’m happy.
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Wheat/weeds; sheep/goats; wolves/shepherds.
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I think I will make an aluminium conical hat and wear it when I go outside….just in case.
Excellent analysis, Louie, but it appears that even healthy arms and legs must be sacrificed to “the left’s golden calf”.
Take a look, for example, at this transcript from a BBC science program of fifteen years ago. There you will find, amongst other things, the following extract (emphasis in bold added):
“REPORTER: A hospital in Falkirk, near Stirling has confirmed that it carried out leg amputations on two patients at their own request. The consultant surgeon who carried out the operations was Robert Smith.
ROBERT SMITH (Consultant General Surgeon): Certainly when I was first contacted by the patients who wished an amputation of a perfectly healthy limb it struck me as being absolutely utterly weird. I was worried and concerned about whether in fact we should even consider this procedure, but I became intrigued and I did a lot of research on the topic. It’s quite a difficult change of view on my point really, to remove a healthy limb is an anathema to a surgeon, but I’ve become convinced over the years that there is a small group of patients who genuinely feel that their body is incomplete with their normal complement of 4 limbs.”
I’ve become convinced over the years that there is a small group of surgeons without a shred of honour, decency, moral sense, integrity, or compassion for the mentally ill.
Dear Louie,
Your several topics, came together for us, on the issue of the deafness that results from sin and false beliefs ; and how that affects those who would assist them with God’s grace and the voice of truth.
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The “silence” of the Church about which Mr.Grodi wrote to the Pope, reminded us of the reference in Revelations to the “silence in heaven for about a half hour” which precedes some rather serious chastisements, and is described as “a time of general consternation and dread”. The “apparent” change in Church mission and direction, haphazardly articulated by our Pope, left Mr. Grodi understandably confused and shaken regarding his work. We noticed many of the converts he helps, said they were attracted by the Church’s sound, clear teachings, in contrast to the unanswered questions and contradictions they found in their former sects.
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Our Pope’s confusing statements seem to be worsening by the day, (with his latest barrage about 3 children being the right number for “responsible” Catholics- who aren’t supposed to reproduce like rabbits) and will likely prove to be a great deterrent to Mr. Grodi’s future work. Unfortunately he sounds temporarily reassured by the Vatican’s insisting all is well and his concerns about the Pope telling people to stay as they are, with no need to convert, were just some big misunderstanding due to bad press. We hope for his sake and all those he tries to help, that he’s not so naive as he sounds, and will be able to hunker down and weather this spiritual hurricaine, as we all must, putting his trust in God and hanging on to the ages-old Faith he knows so well.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I read the Vatican’s response two times last night, and again just now. I caught “catholicity” and “prayerful” and the rest was just a fog of words. I need a drink.
There is absolutely no doubt that poor Francis, as well John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger share the heresy of Modernism. (To say nothing of Kasper, Marx, and a host of similar Heretics)
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Here are some quotes from “One Hundred Years of Modernism” by Father Dominic Bourmaud of the Society of St. Pius X – listen for language that is all around us, especially from poor Francis.
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The modernist speaks: “Revelation is a moving experience lived in the intimacy of the consciousness. Religion is the fruit of our own mystical thirst to sense God WITHIN US. With such a foundation, dogmatic formulae become mere SYMBOLS of the individual experience of God in oneself, variable according to the vast array of revelations. (This is directly where poor Francis gets his ideas that we are all on the same path and no one must convert to the One True Church.)
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“…Christ is the divination of all humanity, and the Church (sic) is the collective, living consciousness of THE PEOPLE OF GOD, sole possessor of infallibility. The church (Tyrrell) of his dreams is a school of CHARITY, a WAY of LIFE rather than a system founded on a revelation or A PRECISE DOCTRINE. It would look more like a Buddhist COMMUNITY than a society held together by a substantially IDENTICAL CREED.” (This is where poor Francis gets his crazy idea that those who hold to the security of doctrine are closed in on themselves.)
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Father Bourmaud states what Modernists are all about. “The wolves in sheep’s clothing obstinately remained within the fold in hopes of converting it into a den of wolves. Modernism is more than a heresy and more than apostasy; it is a fifth column. Pascendi speaks of the simulated multitude of authors hiding behind pseudonyms, the better to hoodwink unsuspecting readers (of course now this is old fashioned – all is out in the open, “loud and proud.”) He continues, “we cannot overstate this point: a modernist is not only an apostate, he is a dyed-in-the wool traitor. Treachery and deceit are integral to the very system of modernism. (Say doctrine can never change, yet insist on mercy to change practice.)
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This is key to understanding poor Francis: again Father Bourmaud, “The bona fide modernist is the one who can affirm his personal faith from the pulpit and then contradict that faith in his writings (or from off his cuff) as a scholar and an historian (or as pope!).
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I can’t recommend this book (One Hundred Years of Modernism) enough as it really helps to know we are in the grips of a heresy – we are not crazy – we are not mis-interpreting poor Francis words – there is no bad translation.
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That’s it. The formal heresy of Modernism IS alive and well. Saint Pius X pray that we the remnant will not be swept away. Pray that we will hold fast to the Truth. Pray that we can survive this evil time with charity for those who want to destroy our Faith and give us husks to eat.
Pope Francis is “contextualizing” his rabbit reference. Now large families are a blessing. I’m getting dizzy.
Yes I couldn’t agree with you more that the heresy of modernism is alive and well especially in the most recent foul mouthed words on procreation from this NFP promoting pope. Words can’t describe my rage and agony with the fruits of this scandalous heretical modernistic perverted teaching on human sexuality and procreation that emanates from NFP when it teaches and blesses separating procreation from conjugal intercourse. And they even go so far to say it is our responsibility to do so! What blaspheme! This pope is an example of the vast majority of so called Catholics who think that one can separate procreation from conjugal intercourse with God’s blessing and that this is not looked down upon.
I so wish that I could throw up so as to have the feeling of purging the rot on human sexuality that we are being constantly bombarded with on a daily basis. I am attaching this link in the hopes of helping someone somewhere out there. http://sspx.org/en/danger-marital-love-and-fidelity-nfp
As a voice in the wilderness crying, I feel called to yell from the rooftops that the primary purpose of marriage is the procreation and education of children for God’s glory and that it is a grave sin to separate procreation from conjugal intercourse in thought, word or deed. Prayer and the sacraments are God’s mercy to help us follow this only path for purity and to holiness. If you don’t get this you will never get the meaning of marriage or God’s meaning, purpose and order for marriage and conjugal intercourse and your soul will be at stake. God come to our assistance, O Lord make haste to help us.
Goodness me: I pity those who convert to the Catholic Church after being catechized by this Grodi, who does not even understand properly the authority of the Roman Pontiff or the very nature of the ecclesiastical magisterium.
I hear you, and feel the same way. Here’s something from the Pius X site from Bishop Fellay:
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“Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domini,” our help is in the Name of the Lord. We must look at God. And in a crisis as terrible as this one, it is all that we have left. As far as men are concerned, it is over, it is hopeless. The situation of the Church is a nameless catastrophe. So there really is reason to be frightened. But we do not have the right to let ourselves be paralyzed, we must go forward, we must reconquer, and that can only be done in the Name of the Lord. Looking at God and seeking the help promised by God.
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Gee, I wish he was my bishop!!
Yes. Hardly know if I should pray for converts. Converts to what? But then we must leave that up to God. He will not leave converts to the wolves – he will send good priests if we ask Him in Jesus Name – He promised.
pity
ˈpɪti/
noun
1.
the feeling of sorrow and compassion caused by the sufferings and misfortunes of others.
“her voice was full of pity”
synonyms: compassion, commiseration, condolence, sorrow, regret, sadness, distress, sympathy, fellow feeling, understanding, feeling, emotion; More
antonyms: indifference, cruelty
2.
a cause for regret or disappointment.
“it’s a pity you didn’t contact us first”
synonyms: shame, crying shame, cause for regret/disappointment, source of regret, sad thing, unfortunate thing, bad luck, misfortune; More
verb
verb: pity; 3rd person present: pities; past tense: pitied; past participle: pitied; gerund or present participle: pitying
1.
feel sorrow for the misfortunes of.
“I could see from their faces that they pitied me”
synonyms: feel sorry for, feel pity for, feel for, feel sympathy for, sympathize with, be sympathetic towards, empathize with, commiserate with, have compassion for, be compassionate towards, take pity on, be moved by, bleed for, have one’s heart go out to, condole with, weep for, grieve for
“I could see from their faces that they pitied me”
Dear Roman Watcher
Thank you for your sympathy,empathy and feelings of compassion,weeping for , and having your heart go out to me, a simple soul who has learnt so much from watching many Journey Home programmes.
Perhaps you might learn something from them too….
TY (AP) – Pope Francis praised big families on Wednesday as a
LEFT IS RIGHT, UP IS DOWN..
:VATICAN CITY (AP) – Pope Francis praised big families on Wednesday as a gift from God, after his comments that Catholics don’t have to breed “like rabbits” made headlines this week.
-“-Francis said numerous children don’t cause poverty in the developing world, as some have suggested, and that the real cause of poverty is an unjust economic system that idolizes money over people.”
http://www.jsonline.com/news/usandworld/national/pope-praises-big-families-after-like-rabbits-remark3f7bd451aa42416791cc88af31f9d59f-289267121.html
Dear Ever mindful,
We hope you will believe us, that we see no inherent disrespect for you or anyone who has ever benefitted from Mr. Grodi’s work, in the criticisms posted regarding his letter to the Pope. In fact, reading what others have said, caused us to re-read the letter, in order to clarify precisely what it says that should be causing concerns -even for those he teaches in the future.
It pains us to have to say this because for many years now, we have received his monthly publications and learned much about the thinking of converts from them. But truth is truth.
He wrote to the Pope asking: :
. “Are we running contrary to how you and the Church have come to understand salvation outside the Church? Should we quit trying to help non-Catholic Christians come home to the Church, and instead help them to find Jesus in their own community?. Should we encourage Evangelical pastors to remain where God has already planted them, guiding their congregations to their faith?…..”
“We are committed to the teachings of the second Vatican council and are fully willing to be submissive to the Magisterium in union with you. But it has become difficult to understand the trajectory of the Church’s teaching concerning our Baptized separated brethren, and if our apostolate is not in line with the Church, then we either need to modify our mission, or cease to exist”.
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Two things strike us about the above quotes. If he is sincerely saying he’ll change his teaching to go along with whatever the Pope tells him to do, then God help anyone learning from him, because he is mistaking the Dogma for the man. What if Francis had called him and told him yes, do that, change it all?
– Papolotry is defined as “excessive veneration or worship of the pope”
The other thing that occurs to us, is that Mr. Grodi was not intending to change anything, knowing the difference between the dogma and what Francis was teaching, but wishing to make a very public statement about the obvious discrepancies, in a way that appeared docile.
–If so, we think it was a big mistake, because of what he implied to so many others, -without explaining that intention. Also the relief and joy he expressed upon hearing the rather “lame” reply ( that that different weights should be given to press statements, and that of course everything the Pope says should be understood in light of the Church’s teachings….which we all know is only what they say for public consumption while going about their modernist destruction on a daily basis.) bespeaks a genuine relief which, sorry, doesn’t lend itself to him attempting a public denouncement of false teaching, but rather to his real concern that he got it all wrong.
THAT tells us, he doesn’t understand that the Pope can’t change things that way.
So, much as we love the man and respect his past service, we all have to face the fact, that there’s a BIG problem with his thinking on the Papacy and Magisterium. We also take issue with the “teaching of Vatican II” loyalty, as the Council was not dogmatic, and as we’ve all discussed here many times, some of them seem downright poisonous. Though we’ve never seen any of that in Mr. Grodi’s writings all these years. Thank God.
So our advice is pray for him and write him a letter explaining these concerns.
God Bless you with peace about this matter..
Dear Barbara,
Or maybe God will direct them to good websites like Louie’s so they can understand the crisis, and get encouragement from others who are also in for the duration. 🙂 🙂
p.s. Just so we don’t contribute to bad spelling: 🙂 🙂
1.We see papolatry as the most common spelling (dictionaries)
2. We see papolotry in a number of articles on line. We probably should have used the first one ending with -atry..
First Vatican Council, Session 3, Canon 4:3
“If anyone says that it is possible that at some time, given the advancement of knowledge, a sense may be assigned to the dogmas propounded by the Church which is different from that which the Church has understood and understands: let him be anathema.”
Yep. Mr. Grodi doesn’t understand the simple basic fact that the truth doesn’t change. He’s been taught wrong and is teaching wrong. Far from some insignificant little doctrinal detail, this is HUGE, and is at the root of the entire post Vatican II crisis in the Church. The whole “conservative” neo – catholic racket is infected with this error. They are part of the problem. Worse than the most blatant liberal, because the error is harder to spot and is presented as orthodoxy.
It’s interesting that seemingly a lot of the writers who are defenders of Catholic Tradition and are still carrying water for the current Pope are converts. If the acceptance of papal infallibility was one of the last obstacles to overcome, it might explain why they would almost fall into papolatry. While I understand why you used the term “pity”, (I’m at a loss to think of where to send a potential convert for RCIA), if Marcus influenced them to convert, great. We should always rejoice when someone “comes home”. Let us also make sure we pray that their walk may lead them ever deeper in the Truth.
Dear Barbara,
Thanks for this reference to Father Bourmaud.
We’ve all see this played out again and again, eliciting lists of guesses about the causes including everything from deception to insanity and diabolic disorientation.
“The bona fide modernist is the one who can affirm his personal faith from the pulpit and then contradict that faith in his writings”
Maybe everyone is right, and it takes a disoriented, self-deceiving nut-job to
buy into modernism in the first place….
Dear Craig V,
Very well put. Makes our hearts even more anguished for people like Mr. Grodi,
who did all that gut-wrenching searching for Truth, said goodbye to those who rejected him for what they viewed as his betrayal of his upbringing; and left a full ministry and way of earning his living that he passionately loved and felt was in direct service to our Lord–, knowing he had come to a point where there was no other choice but his full commitment to the original Church His Lord founded.
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And he had to walk right into the middle of this mess that has confuses everyone it touches-including most cradle Catholics. 20 years ago, the Pope had responded to all the calls for women priests, with “Ordinatio Sacerdotalis”. And that was only one small problem in retrospect.
People like him definitely deserves our thanks for his tremendous efforts, our sincere prayers, and any help we can give him in straightening out his beliefs.
If anyone is interested Contact the Coming Home Network.
The Coming Home Network International.
P.O. Box 8290, Zanesville, OH 43702.
–Telephone (800) 664-5110 .
–There is also an email link at:
http://chnetwork.org/information/marcus-grodi/
Maybe he wouldn’t dare call a council with the Ivereigh book making it possible for the validity of his election to be the number one item on its agenda?
–number 2 being how to go about nullifying canonizations……
Yeah, we know.. in our dreams……
Some of us converts are doing fine, regardless of whether others pray for us or not. It’s as much a matter of converting “from what” as much as to “to what.” I looked long and hard at what the Proddies offered and noted the vacuity behind their individual interpretations of Scripture. I was fortunate to have a good RCIA formation, and took it as a springboard to traditionalist Roman Catholicism. This website and many of the commenters are a daily education. I know that there are many problems emanating from the Vatican leadership on a regular basis, but I strengthen my resolve with the knowledge that it’s not really their Church. That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.
What hasn’t been emphasized in the above very good comments is this: yes, the Pope is now teaching that we are not interested in converting anyone to the One True Church. He has said it many times – what is it about poor Francis’ words that Grodi doesn’t understand? Why did he have to write for clarification? I suspect he thought he had ‘mis-understood’ and was asking beyond all hope of getting a different answer.
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The talk now is convergence not conversion. Look at the modernest heresy full in the face and we find de Chardin in all his craziness – the big consciousness in the sky – the omega point which all creation (including all faiths or no faith) is evolving towards, and all that delusional crap – this is what we hear from the lips of deluded ‘shepherds’ who have quaffed at the same poisoned well.
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It is very hard for sincere folks like Mr. Grodi to believe his own ears and eyes. That’s why he wrote – hope against hope that he was mistaken. He is so fearful of the consequences of poor Francis’ words that he immediately settled back into his personal comfort zone and will carry on.
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I don’t blame Grodi at all. We are all experiencing the same terrible foreboding – can this really be true?
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Many of us have realized that this is the TRIAL. The Spiritual Combat is no longer just our own passions and appetites we must fight, or ‘the world’ that we must battle – now it’s our own pope and his couriers – those who used to fight with us, on our side.
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Heresy is a terrible crime against God and one’s fellow man. Those who teach heresy will suffer in Hell simply because their evil spreads far and wide – like that pillow we shake out of the window of the tower – one cannot retrieve all the feathers – too late. So not just their personal pride that they know better than all Tradition and Teaching, but that they pass this on under the guise of love and mercy.
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THIS is the time for mercy. Once this trial is over only the sentencing phase is left. There will be no lawyer to plead that we were too afraid to face the truth, or that we didn’t want to commit further sin – the sin of lack of mercy and tolerance. Even Our Lady won’t be there to beg on our behalf – She and our chosen Saint friends do this NOW to obtain graces to help us fight the battle NOW.
God give us strength!
Dear Barbara and all,
we should be careful not to judge Mr. Grodi’s motives for writing the letter too quickly. Perhaps not all is as it seems. The letter may have been written less for clarification than to address ‘in-house’ warfare within EWTN itself.
There may be something rotten in Denmark that must be played out.
I am amazed my pity was thought so objectionable.
Understand, and I will speak in black and white terms: if you “converted” by being fed false doctrine — and I am not saying anyone was — then you never converted to the Catholic Faith, but to some sort of heresy (objectively speaking) and did not receive the justification which comes with baptism or the forgiveness of your sins in your first confession. That is why I pity you; if I were catechized by this man, I would tremble with all the fiber of my being, that I was potentially robbed of so great graces.
This reminds me of the error I fell into as a youth, on account of the doctrinally absurd translations present in the NO, I came to believe that sanctifying grace was an ontological participation in the Sacred Humanity, and that one was ontologically changed as a human being, by receiving the Sacrament. When having read G. LaGrange on Grace and discovering my error, I wept bitterly that I had received so often with a soul in the state of objective error!
A TASTE OF MARCUS GRODI
Reflections after 20 years as a Protestant minister, on verses that he somehow missed,as he slowly discovered the Truth of Catholicism
THE VERSES I NEVER SAW-MARCUS GRODI
“I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these instructions to you so that, if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth”
1Timothy 3:14-15
Scott Hahn pulled this one on me. “So, Marc, what is the pillar and foundation of truth?” I answered, “The Bible, of course.” “Oh yeah? But what does the Bible say?” “What do you mean?” When he told me to look up this verse, I suspected nothing. I had taught and preached through First Timothy many times. But when I read this verse, it was as if it had suddenly appeared from nowhere, and my jaw dropped. The Church!? Not the Bible? This alone sent my mind and essentially my whole life reeling; the question of which Church was one I was not ready to broach
FURTHER REFLECTIONS OF MARCUS GRODI AS HE JOURNEYS HOME TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
MARCUS GRODI-VERSES I NEVER SAW
Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church.
I don’t know if I purposely avoided this or just blindly missed it, but for the first 40- years of my life I never saw this verse. And to be honest, when I finally saw it, I still didn’t know what to do with it. Nothing in my Lutheran, Congregationalist, or Presbyterian backgrounds helped me understand how I or anyone could rejoice in suffering, and especially why anything was needed to complete the suffering of Christ: nothing was lacking! Christ’s suffering, death, and resurrection were sufficient and complete! To say anything less was to attack the omnipotent completeness of God’s sovereign grace. But then again, this was the apostle Paul speaking in inerrant, infallible Scripture. And we were to imitate him as he imitated Jesus. It took a reading of Pope John Paul II’s encyclical on the meaning of suffering to open my eyes to the beautiful mystery of redemptive suffering.
Dear Alarico,
We think most here are not judging Mr. Grodi’s motives, but his understanding.
As you’ll notice is the last paragraph of what we wrote under #12 above,
Even IF he was addressing some other problem in a “subtle” way, or his letter was meant to expose those errors, (which we hope was the case) it is very damaging to have it out there, with it’s strong implications that he would have changed his whole ministry to CONFORM to those errors, if he were so instructed by the response. His sending out the letter with his response and that of his advisor who said it was “great” referring to the response, sends a very confusing message to his readers. A dangerous one.
Are they now to have full confidence that Francis always thinks with the mind of the Church, because they SAY he does? And that all those things printed by the press were false, or misrepresented his speech and ideas to all those people on all those separate occasions? That’s Hogwash, and we all know it.
So whatever Mr. Grodi was trying to do there, it’s worth pointing those damaging things out to people, with vigorous denunciation of what is wrong with them.
He needs to speak plainly if he’s denouncing those errors. He has a huge following.
Dear Indignus famulus,
thank you for your acute reply to my remarks. It is greatly appreciated.
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It was also right of you to replace the word ‘judgment’ with that of ‘understanding’ as it better reflects the meaning and intention of my remarks. I stand certainly and happily corrected there.
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Your most pendantic and much more ‘indegnus’ colleague,
Alarico
What you describe is a prominent feature of the new-theology. When Logos became ‘man’ he divinized all ‘men.’ Thus we all participate in God – we are all ‘gods.’ Thus poor Francis can say all are saved (and so can Fr. Barron), and that atheists can go to heaven, even against their will – they all have this spark of the divine – we are all evolving into one People of God who all evolve at the end of time into The Divine Consciousness….and on and on – total crap but thoughts we’ve been taught since Paul VI. DEMONIC
If only John Paul II was faithful to Tradition, as well as the Bible in ALL he said. No use dropping ‘beautiful’ pearls among the slop fed to swine.
Oink,oink,oink!
When will your blinders fall off that Francis is the false prophet? Don’t you know that all religions leading to God in different ways is a Freemason belief? Hence there is never a call to conversion.
Evil beyond words. And, presumably, this mutilator for hire was not prosecuted for the grievous bodily harm he calculatedly carried out on a person? This was permitted by the state, on behalf of everyone. So, it involves the public and its leaders. And what did the bishops and priests say about this evil??
Unfortunately, Mr Grodi, by publicising the response from the Holy See as in accordance with the unchanging Faith and the Moral Law, he is assisting in the lies, the heresy and apostasy continually being manifested by the occupier of St Peter’s Chair. Lord, have mercy! Reparation! Reparation! Reparation!
Terribly, I still see a majority absurdly denying/ignoring the constant opposition to the doctrine of the Faith and morals, by Pope Francis. The bishops have a grave duty to convene, investigate and declare on his heresies, on his Modernism and Socialism, utterly anthetical to the Faith, to the moral law.
Thank you for persevering in speaking the truth, Anastasia.
Dear Alarico,
Thanks for your kind response. Sounds like we’re on the same page in leaving the judgment of hearts to God, Who knows them best. .
We really did hope Mr. G. was doing something along the lines of what you suggested, but the level of awareness of the damage being done by this Pope, seems missing completely from that joyful news he was sharing with his readers. It’s hard to believe he could write all those quoted which demonstrate so clearly the preponderance of evidence that the Pope really thinks and talks in those ways, and then just swallow the return “assurances” all in the form of vague implications, that he doesn’t. It’s likely wishful thinking at its worst.
–By the way, do you know what’s going on with EWTN these days?
We’d heard of the Bishops taking it over and trying to stifle Mother Angelica’s criticisms of them, but not much since.
Dear remnantclergy,
Can you cite something you’re read here that led you to think there is anyone commenting on these matters, who thinks Pope Francis bears any resemblance to a true prophet or a good Pope or even a Catholic who is on track and not duped by Satan? If not, then would you please explain what “blinders” you think any of us in need of dropping?
If he turns out to be the Biblical False Prophet, we’ll know when he starts calling down fire from heaven as people watch, and makes a statue of the Beast talk, compelling all to take a mark on forehead or hand in order to buy or sell, and to worship the statue of the Beast.
In the meantime, speaking for ourselves, we’re in no danger of putting any trust in his non-dogmatically promulgated off-the-cuff instructions for proper breeding and global-warming prevention, rest assured.. 🙂 🙂
So anyone who eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily is guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. That is why you should examine yourself before eating the bread and drinking the cup. For if you eat the bread or drink the cup without honouring the body of Christ, you are eating and drinking God’s judgment upon yourself.
St Paul
1Corinthians 11:27-29
Dear Lynda,
It took a majority to elect him, and among those, we now are being told there was a “team Bergoglio” working who were automatically ex-communicated.
That’s not a very promising reality to live with, but :
1. Our Lady said “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph”
and
2. In the meantime, what you just pointed out is becoming easier and easier to see, which means more and more people who were formerly in denial, will be realizing something’s very wrong at the top–making our work of sharing the truth, easier. We’re aware you’ve said you have family connections that anguish you, as do we. Let’s keep praying for one another’s loved ones, that this coming awakening to Truth, will renew the Church and call them to re-order their lives with sincere remorse and willingness to do penance, that brings joy to all our families.
Dear LeGrandeDerangement
We may frame your above comment and hang in on a wall in our home.
When St. Catherine of Sienna said, “Let a hundred thousand tongues cry out…
this is kind of thing she meant for them to be saying!
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It IS a matter of “.. converting “from what” .. “to what.” and of “..the vacuity behind individual interpretations of Scripture.” and the need for…..a good RCIA formation… as a springboard to traditionalist Roman Catholicism. …and ” a daily education.”
–Seeking Truth, Finding Truth , Increasing knowledge of Truth, Holding on to Truth and helping to Spread the Truth.
” I strengthen my resolve with the knowledge that it’s not really their Church.”
— “That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.”
AMEN! Thank you for sharing it, and more importantly, for stickin to it with those of us who are doing the same. Nice of Louie to invite us over to his place like this… 🙂 🙂
Dear Ever mindful,
Obviously very True- and St. Paul’s warning about unworthy reception has been further clarified by many Saints/Church Fathers and Councils who have all made it clear what a grave sacrilege it is to receive in a state of mortal sin.
but…may we ask what prompted you to post that just then? We’ve been trying to follow the ongoing thread of the conversation, and are wondering how you think it fits….