On 24 July, Cardinal Seán P. O’Malley, OFM Cap, issued a statement, published on the Archdiocese of Boston website, on the “Uncle Ted” McCarrick case.
Many observers have been anxiously awaiting as much given that O’Malley serves as President of Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors.
The statement is being applauded in many circles, largely thanks to the following:
These cases and others require more than apologies … Transparent and consistent protocols are needed to provide justice for the victims and to adequately respond to the legitimate indignation of the community. The Church needs a strong and comprehensive policy to address bishops’ violations of the vows of celibacy in cases of the criminal abuse of minors and in cases involving adults.
My experience in several dioceses and my work with the members of the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors have brought me to this conclusion.
OK, let’s talk about Cardinal O’Malley’s experience, shall we?
He has been at the helm of the aforementioned Pontifical Commission since its inception in March of 2014 – a full four years before McCarrick’s suspension.
According to well-documented reports, however, any number of allegations of sexual abuse (homosexual abuse, that is) on the part of Uncle Ted had been submitted to Rome over the course of many years.
Where did all of these reports of McCarrick’s homo-shenanigans go? Is it possible that this information never made its way to Cardinal Seán, as he likes to be called? (How very humble!)
Consider O’Malley’s brother in the College of Cardinals, Joseph “Nighty Night” Tobin, who revealed that the Archdiocese of Newark that he has led since 2016 was forced to pay out settlements in cases of sexual abuse involving McCarrick and three adults.
Is it possible that Tobin never whispered as much as a peep to O’Malley (or even bothered to send him a Tweet) that might put Uncle Ted on the Pontifical Commission’s radar?
At this, let’s talk about Fr. Boniface Ramsey, O.P. As reported in the July 22nd edition of the Washington Post:
Ramsey said he called the Vatican’s U.S. representative, [Papal Nuncio, Archbishop] Gabriel Montalvo, in the fall of 2000 and told him what he’d heard about McCarrick, who had just been named to the post of D.C. archbishop. Montalvo strongly encouraged Ramsey to put everything in writing, Ramsey said. Ramsey later told Montalvo that he was afraid McCarrick would find out. “He told me: ‘Send the letter! What do you think we are — fools? Send the letter.’ So I sent the letter. I never got a response.”
Montalvo died in 2006.
In March 2015, Ramsey said he ran into McCarrick at the funeral of Cardinal Edward Egan of New York City and became upset that the cardinal was still out and about, he said. He wrote a letter a few months later to Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston, one of Francis’s key advisers on preventing clerical abuse, saying the issue was about “a form of sexual abuse / harassment / intimidation or maybe simply high-jinks as practiced by Theodore Cardinal McCarrick with his seminarians and perhaps other young men” when McCarrick was in New Jersey.
Within a few days, Ramsey received a note back from the Rev. Robert Kickham, O’Malley’s secretary. O’Malley, Kickham clarified, as president of the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, is responsible for “evaluating child protection policies and procedures . . . and to offer recommendations to improve” those policies. Commission members don’t review individual cases that fall under local authorities, he wrote. “Please know of our appreciation for your care and concern for the good of the Church and the people of God.”
Ramsey provided copies of his letter to O’Malley and Kickham’s response to The Post. O’Malley and his spokesman declined to comment.
In his statement of July 24, Cardinal O’Malley broke his silence on the matter, stating:
Recent media reports also have referenced a letter sent to me from Rev. Boniface Ramsey, O.P. in June of 2015, which I did not personally receive. In keeping with the practice for matters concerning the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, at the staff level the letter was reviewed and determined that the matters presented did not fall under the purview of the Commission or the Archdiocese of Boston, which was shared with Fr. Ramsey in reply.
So, are we to believe that Fr. Robert Kickham simply took it upon himself to keep Fr. Ramsey’s letter and its contents to himself?
This afternoon, on behalf of The Catholic Inquisitor, I reached out to Mr. Michael Kieloch, Director of Communications for the Archdiocese of Boston, for further information. I specifically asked the following:
Is Fr. Kickham willing, or planning, to publicly confirm that he chose, of his own volition, not to forward Fr. Ramsey’s 2015 letter (re: Cardinal McCarrick) to Cardinal O’Malley as addressed? Is he likewise willing or planning to state publicly that he never even mentioned it to His Eminence? Lastly, where is the actual letter presently, and to whom, if anyone, was it or a copy ever forwarded?
In return, I received the following response from Mr. Terrence Donilon, Secretary for Communications & Public Affairs for the Archdiocese, stating:
Mike Kieloch forwarded your email to me from this afternoon. I would refer you to the Cardinal’s statement…
In other words, the answer is no – Fr. Kickham will silently allow himself to take the fall for failing to alert Cardinal O’Malley about the serious allegations that were leveled against Cardinal McCarrick by another priest.
If you believe for even a moment that Cardinal O’Malley was genuinely ignorant about the homo-predatory tendencies of Uncle Ted McCarrick until very recently, and what’s more that he is, as he claimed in his July 24th statement, “deeply troubled by these reports that have traumatized many Catholics and members of the wider community,” may God help you overcome your naiveté.
Even so, it seems that Cardinal O’Malley is widely considered by many to somehow be above the fray in such matters.
With this in mind, I also reached out for comment to Randy Engel, whose research into the clerical sex abuse scandal is unparalleled, as is her keen sense for related lies and cover-ups. She replied:
The prelate (O’Malley) is a washout on the clerical sex abuse issue. It is impossible that he didn’t know about McCarrick. O’Malley has headed the Vatican’s Sex Abuse of Minors Commission for years. The Commission has done nada, zilch, zero to clean out the Church’s homo stables. Until the McCarrick mess, O’Malley showed no interest at cracking down on the abuse of seminarians by their bishops.
The man has a great public relations staff. That’s the best that can be said for him.
All of this having been said, I agree wholeheartedly with Cardinal O’Malley’s contention that the Church needs a strong and comprehensive policy to address bishops who either engage in sexual abuse or fail to properly address it.
If such a policy should ever be put in place, providing it be worth a wooden nickel, Cardinal Seán may very well find himself banished to a remote location and perhaps even bunkmates with one Uncle Ted McCarrick.
May it please God to let us live to see the day.
“If such a policy should ever be put in place, providing it be worth a wooden nickel, Cardinal Seán may very well find himself banished to a remote location and perhaps even bunkmates with one Uncle Ted McCarrick. May it please God to let us live to see the day.”
Amen Louie, there can be no real renewal of Traditional Catholicism
until we sweep out all the filth !
i believe however, it will take a long time for a genuine purge to complete.
Is there an ecclesiastical version of Serv-Pro? Sweep out the filth like it never happened? Please, God!!!!!
Sean is a publicity hound, much like Bergoglio, never missing for a good photo-op. Whether giving communion through a border fence, or receiving a “blessing” from a female protestant “clergy-person”, showing off his designer sandals – there always seems to be a photographer present to capture the humble moment, followed by a good write-up in the Pilot. He’s a fake just like Bergoglio. Massachusetts is ground zero for pervert clergy – and he does nothing about it there and nothing about it at the Vatican.
Ah yes, the whole “we’ll put a ‘policy’ in place” lie…that will fix it!
How about MY idea of a policy, Cardinal? How about every predator priest, bishop, cardinal, brother etc. who has ever raped a child be tried in court and depending on the depth of the crime, either be a) pushed up against a wall and shot b) hung until dead or c) burned at the stake? I think that might make child predators think twice about entering the priesthood, eh? Good policy. Pope St. Pius the V agrees.
Then of course what to do about all those predator priests, bishops, cardinals and brothers who were predators to seminarians and other adults under their authority? Maybe just the bullet to the head will do.
And then there are all the coward, evil prelates who know about all of this and not only did nothing but in some cases actually promoted these predators. I think the secular law courts call this “accomplice to a crime” and the penalties are the same as if you actually committed the crime. So again, depending on how bad the crime is either a) a bullet b) hung or c) burned alive.
All of this with the caveat that all involved be given a fair trial and offered the sacraments if found guilty. I for one would be front row center and smiling as they squeal and scream…thinking of the innocence they have destroyed and the justice being rendered.
Maybe it was those public executions that helped the survivors of abuse recover? Maybe it prevented countless abuse? Maybe it helped avoid setting up pervert monasteries where these sick men would have to be housed, watched and endured while they worked and did penance in seclusion until their dying day. Actually I think the kindest thing you can do to these predators is to offer the sacraments and put them out of their misery. To allow them to roam this earth in any way is a danger to souls and the innocent.
I might sound cruel and heartless to our emo Church of nice…but if Pope St. Pius V and our much saner Catholic ancestors thought this kind, sane and healthy…well I think we need to adopt their policy asap. That might just put a necessary “fire” under our sick Bishops and have them running from office.
MMC, now there’s a “strong and comprehensive policy”. Self defense, no?
The sodomite NO sect is not going to clean itself up and suddenly correct itsef. It is laden with sodomites and it compromises all those who associate with them. It is a natural product of modernism. A church run by modernists lacks the moral authority to condemn the filthy perverts and will never be able to remove the scum.
This devilish homo heresy has taken over the Church in the West. In Africa half the priests have wives back in the villages or concubines. Purity is out, sexual immorality is in. It’s not the first time in the Church’s history (in the tenth century it was very bad), but this time around they’re not even conscious of the sinfulness of it, or even flatly deny the very concept.
Christ won’t be mocked for long. Something’s coming … .
Thanks SOTF for your continued efforts to get the message across on clerical predatory homosexuality and its abuse of both children and adults.
” … there can be no real renewal of Traditional Catholicism
until we sweep out all the filth.”
Yes, but I think it’s likely to be as much the other way around. The two go together. This sodomitical frenzy will only be cured by the triumph of traditional, authentic Catholicism.
Sorry, I don’t get your self defense referral…my brain is pretty foggy today:+) Are you saying that bishops will run for the hills in self defense? Or is the comprehensive policy a self defense from them and the predators they unleash on us all? Thanks for being patient with my broken brain today:+) God bless~
Definitely the latter, my friend.
“Cardinal Sean”. Crikey, what bunk. Does anybody buy this traveling phony humility show any more? Many did when the Master came out in 2013, but surely not STILL.
I can tell these men this.
Things are changing. You are seen now for the liars and pederasts you are. We are fed up with your apostasy, your attacks of the faith, your sexual molestation of little boys, young men, and each other. You pervert the church with your wicked practices, and then you lie about it to us over decades. You cover for each other and enable each other to commit unspeakable crimes against innocence and you allow each other to do demonic things in God’s house and on our dime. You WRECK the lives of boys!
Those days are coming to an end. Catholic guilt about showing “respect” and using the proper “tone” is over, it’s not going to work on us anymore. When we look at you we see the faces of poor boys and young men whose lives have been ruined by you, and we realize if we support you WE are in part guilty of those crimes.
That this “Cardinal” has the audacity, at this point, 2018, to stand there and say NOW they need a “policy”, as if they are now going to start another process to begin the attempt to start the discussion and form the committee so that they can make it possible to hopefully determine if they can identify via consensus what they might want to do at some future point about the disgusting number of absolute perverts and pederasts and homosexuals (dissidents) in their midst is off the chart, unbelievably arrogant, and may I say Cardinal “Sean” you are way late and many dollars short.
Not my words but very true:
“There are rare exceptions of repentant or remorseful homosexual clergymen, who are suffering spiritually, psychologically, existentially and perhaps physically, and with nothing can they find rest and quiet from the relentless torture of their conscience. If they do not deeply repent and give up their high pastoral office, they will never rest and acquire the inner experience of complete forgiveness by God.”
Hard to believe these sodomy-boosters (Cardinal Cupich, Father James Martin S.J. etc) are taking their dog and pony show to Ireland with the Varican’s blessing. Squalid, disease engendering and soul destroying sodomy enshrined!
Lord, rescue Your Bride from these degradations.
I think it was the Flood of Noah’s time. Or the consuming fires that destroyed the cities infected with perverse lust that included Sodom and Gomorrah .
A renewed Church in which the Hierarchy focuses on God’s Law rather than the worldly politics of the UN , Soros and cults of personality.
Who knows but God the individual judgements of these tortured souls who, because of their own emotional physical and mental trauma, act out as adults and re perpetrate the sexual abuse that was inflicted on themselves as youths?
Deep in their souls they know it is against nature. So true to the saying that “misery loves company” they struggle in a societal battle to convince us all it is normal.It would appear they are convincing the leadership of the Church institution though the persons of fr James Martin and his ilk.
Pray the Rosary daily.
How The Ancient Catholic Church Dealt With Priest Sex Offenders
According to divine Chrysostom, not even wild animals go beyond their heterosexual boundaries. They live according to their erotic nature and compulsion which was given to them by the Creator God, for the purpose of perpetuating the species. A relative reduction in their ferocity is achieved during commingling, a certain intimacy, tameness and relief.
For the corruption of homosexuality not to occur, with its terrible pathogenesis and unimaginably tragic side-effects, St. John Chrysostom suggests active use of spiritual drugs in Christ. His primary therapeutic guideline is “awareness of the omnipresence of God”. But nothing saves him more than seeing the All-good Lord noetically, Who was Crucified for us and Rose from the dead, and to call upon His All-holy Name. Only in this way will the corruption of homosexuality no longer be an unforgivable sin.
Granted, this can only happen with a succession of a holy Pope (popes), who fears God only! A Pope, who as a Vicar of Christ follows faithfully His Royal Way of the Cross, NOT according to the ‘whims of the people’, but in accordance with His Will! For only God can turn ‘evil’ for His Greater Good!
Until that time comes, may our Lord Jesus Christ, His Blessed Mother, and all His saints, most especially St. Peter Damian, bless us and keep us strong in the Faith!
Taylor Marshall of the New St Thomas institute recently was quoted ..
“It was Abp. John J. Meyers who paid the 2004 payout in Newark for McCarrick. It was Bp. Bootkoski who paid out the 2007 payout in Metuchen for McCarrick. These two bishops 100% knew about McCarrick and did not follow the Zero Tolerance policy. All journalistic pressure should be placed on these two men until they crack and start explaining who they consulted (nuncios and cardinals and popes) and what they were told to do. If you want to break this story wide open, you need to break these two bishops open. If one of them cracks and says “Cardinal Sodano told us to …” then the whole deck of cards falls down. It will unravel the USCCB and it may solve the B16 resignation mystery. ”
There is no extraditon from Vatican City…and the Vatican signed onto the UN Right’s of the Child Treaty back in the nineties.
I do not think there is any mystery regarding Benedict’s resignation.
it has been a widely kept secret that the Vatican’s policy to just shuffle pederasts around came directly from the Papacy. Letters from Pope Benedict himself were used in his defense by an Oakland CA Bishop when he was placed on the stand to explain why he shuffled a known pedophile from parish to parish. It is also known the Vatican was well aware of what Maciel was back in the 1950s.
So, the American bishops are just dying to get a clear policy against “evil,” aka clerical homosexuality and pederasty, O’Malley tells us. I think he is a little late for that since many members of the U.S. hierarchy share the vice and the crime.
It’s time for the laity to ask the $64,000 question. Where were these “shocked” bishops and cardinals and popes when Bishop Ferrario, Bishop Joseph Symons, Bishop Anthony O’Connell, Bishop Patrick Zirmann, Bishop Daniel Ryan, Archbishop Rembert Weakland, Bishop James Williams, Bishop Joseph Hart, Bishop George Rueger, and Bishop Robert H. Brom, etc. etc. etc. – were raping young boys and young men including their own seminarians?
The Catholic hierarchical “overworld” has been protecting the Catholic homosexual and pederast criminal “underworld” for decades.
If there is to be any true reform, it must begin at the top, that is, the Papacy. And unless God gives Francis the same treatment he gave Saul, it ain’t going to happen any time soon. Randy Engel
If anything this points to the homomafia blackmailing BXVI with his knowledge of all the pervert and predators in order to kick him out and put in Francis. JPII and BXVI supported the “keep it secret” policy from what I have read. We need to expose everyone, even the ones at the very tippy top.
Most of this scandal falls at the feet of “Pope St Jp2.” He promoted all of these sodomites and had to know or suspect most of them. But if Bergolio is Pope, then Wojtyla is a Saint.
…….Where were these “shocked” bishops and cardinals and popes……..?
The absurdity (to say the least) in their cowardice, silence, Modernist and Liberal inclinations has scandalized legions of Catholics, causing the biggest split and disunity amongst Catholics. An exodus from the Holy Church into every stripe of Protestantism, schismatic Orthodox Church, atheism, sedevacantism, the SSPX, FSSP, the Novus Ordo……….ultimately, paganism…….
The loss of souls known to God alone………
How cheated is Our Lord Himself, and not just cheated but insulted on the table of false worship!!!
God Will Not Be Mocked!
Ps. Thank you Randy Engel for being a soldier of Jesus Christ, blessed with ‘fearless faith’ to the end…….following His Royal Way of the Cross!
WAIT ! You did not mention “Wuerl the Girl” aka “Donna” Randy, he cannot just be relegated to the ranks of “etc” !!
There has to be some pretty costly legal eagles holding up the public release of the Pittsburgh Diocesan Grand Jury Report , so big that AG Shapiro has written to Pope Francis to intervene.
As a retired medical person i want to point out one little
aspect of P JP2 that so many swallowed and believed coming from Vatican PR Inc. He had Parkinsons disease. How long we do not know for sure. He was heavily medicated. How long we do not know for sure. People with this awful affliction have delusions if not from the medications ,from the disease itself. I know first hand because for quite awhile I had these people under my care.
Just how long he was mentally missing in action from the helm of the Barque no one really knows except for a very few like his Sec of State the bribe taking Cdl Sodano. ( bought off with more than one gift like a new Mercedes from Maciel ) !
The Opus Di Vatican spokesman Joachim Navaro Valls , kept reassuring the world P JP2 was fully cognizant until the end and that he had visions of Our Lady. The miracle had to be that any of that was absolutely true. I do not believe he knew much of what was going on right under his nose.
Reading “Peter, Lovest Thou Me?”, by Abbe Daniel La Roux, is enough to fill a faithful Catholic with despair, were it not that we have Our Lord’s promise that He will never desert His Church.
John Paul II (RIP) has been exposed to the errors, of Husserl, Kierkegaard, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Scheler, Rudolf Steiner, and Pope Paul VI himself……with these teachers, how could the formation of Karol Wojtyła be flawless?
His improper philosophical and theological formation lead him little by little towards realizing the ideal of Freemasonry and the goal followed by the Revolution.
While traveling all around this planet to promote the Second Vatican Council (changing of the Faith in its liturgy, its theology, and its soul) offering the Novus Ordo Mass….. the Church was being more and more devastated, and the Princes of the Church did nothing in its defense. As such the revolutionary torment has been spreading like a plague thorough the Universal Church…..
For some strange reason (known to God) he felt compelled to call all the world’s religions together at Assisi, for the specific purpose of praying for world peace. This alone should strike us as odd, if not blasphemous against Heaven!
As a result, legions of Catholics have dispersed into every ‘stripe’ and lost the Faith.
The warnings were given to Catholics by Our Blessed Lady at La Salette, at Lourdes, at Fatima.
God forbid, for I am not questioning nor doubting his devotion to Our Lady, but the fact is, he disobeyed her willfully (as did not his predecessors from Pope Pius XI, until today)…….he did not consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart.
Dear sweep-I’ll give JP2 a “pass” during his later years as Pope especially when his sickness was so obvious. However, there are other things to consider, including his fast-track to the papacy so quickly after the untimely and suspicious death of JP1. Also, was he a victim of Parkinsons when he had the scandalous brainchild of the infamous Assisi interreligious prayer meetings? How many homo priests were elevation to the office of Bishop during his papacy? I do agree with you that in the end his poor health made it easy for those around him to be his puppet master. But I don’t believe his problematic papacy began during this time period.
And let’s not forget his involvement in Vatican II. He gets no pass from me.
Only one more point: Since Pope John Paul II was fully ‘cognizant’ at this stage of his disease, then he for sure knew what was going on under his nose, for all the 26 years of his reign………..Miserere!
God might possibly give Gigolo Bergoglio the treatment He gave Saul. On the other hand, a repeat of the end of Sodom and Gomorrah might be on the cards. Please.
Thank you, 2Vermont and From Poland—The list could go on and on. Hopefully, he was cognizant enough to make a good confession in the end, but there was so much damage in his 28 year papacy. Let God be the Judge.
My 2 Cents , from the time he was dx to when it was made public he had been ill for quite some time . I am sure he was on medication long before it was announced. Many of the medications alone , have serious side effects and some do cause hallucinations as can the disease.
Can we trust what came out of the Vatican by way of public relation announcements?
Before Boston, O’Malley was the ordinary in Fall River, home of the infamous homosexual rapist, the Unreverend James Porter. A sure bet Sean knows about the episcopal skeletons in that closet.
Wow so now everyone is bashing St. John Paul II The Great. Who are you to sit in judgment and have you ever run a billion-person company? There is a problem yes but it is disgusting when so many people say that all priests or even most are predators. Why would you be part of a church like that, just go an find some other religon. And again sweepINthefilth is 8 out of 32 comments or 1/4. Wow.
Thank you TGS and thanks be to God!
Randy wrote a wonderful expose for a family I got her in touch with . i spoke with the mother tonight . She said her son called her crying at dinner when he read the Pittsburgh Diocesan Grand Jury Report would be released early next month . He and his little brother were abused in the seventies and he is in his fifties now. People need to understand the horrific impact this has had on children and their parents and how it lasts a lifetime.
The mother who is in her seventies and in fragile health thought she would never live to see the truth come out.
Randy even thought the priest was a good guy for years but she followed up once I found the family.
I am amazed at the people who profess to be Catholic and do not understand how much she has done to expose the truth or how badly it needed to come out.
Beyond any shadow of a doubt God’s Hand has been in all of this !
“Wow so now everyone is bashing St. John Paul II The Great. Who are you to sit in judgment and have you ever run a billion-person company? There is a problem yes but it is disgusting when so many people say that all priests or even most are predators. Why would you be part of a church like that, just go an find some other religion. ”
Why would you be part of a blog like that? Just go find another blog. See how that works?
“Deus misereatur” + Psalm 66
MAY GOD have mercy on us, and bless us: may He cause the light of His countenance to shine upon us: and may He have mercy on us. That we may know Thy way upon earth: Thy salvation in all nations.
Let people confess to Thee, O God: let all people give praise to Thee………
May God, our God bless us. May God bless us: and all the ends of the earth fear Him.
❤️ Miserere mei
“Deus vult” + God wills, a battle cry of the Crusaders
Too little-Too Late. What a joke!! A lifetime of penance at age 88!
…..too little too late………?
Have you forgotten the Last Four Things? Death, Judgment, Heaven or Hell?
Our all knowing Father who art in Heaven, is the most Just Judge!
From Poland–I was referring to the church’s reaction after knowing about this for decades. I would never presume to judge the state of one’s soul. I leave that to God and God alone.
Never forget he credited Opus Dei for making him Pope.
He was OD before he was elected and OD controlled throughout his Papacy. That alone should tell us something.
I was merely pointing out the serious nature of his health condition.
Funny how he never resigned like Benedict did.
@my2cents…….Forgive me, if I have misunderstood you.
Prayer and penance poolside in a tropical mansion paradise with a pool boy to bring him his drinks , like Maciel?
“Have you ever run a billion person company?”
*sigh* Ok, that’s a little bit liberal all or nothing for me. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to manage a “company” like the Church. It’s all about simple organization and applying the known rules. If I were the Pope it would look like this: assign one person to each continent and have their ONLY job be to monitor heretical, dissident, sodomite or child rape behavior. Then these six people (sorry poor cold Antarctica) meet with the Pope for a couple of hours each week to give him an update. They are his watchdogs and if he hears something fishy/evil, like the Father he is supposed to be, he asks his watchdogs to deal with it via a) canon law and/or b) secular law. And to make sure that the watchdogs aren’t compromised, have a lay commission who does the same thing, who volunteers their time for it. And to cap off the watchdog separation of powers, lets have our Pope (who usually speaks and thus reads multiple languages) actually put aside time each week reading newspapers. From what I have read, the Wanderer newspaper here in the US had been reporting on these sexual predators for decades. Catholic housewives magically knew more than our Popes.
It’s the job of the Pope NOT to fly around the world and build up his own cult of personality and promote the evil that is V2. It’s his job to be a FATHER which primarily deals with discipline. Do THAT, protect your flock from spiritual and sexual predators and you are being a true Holy Father.
Bring back the Sodalitium Pianum.
300 in one state??!!
My 2 Cents,
For the state add to that number Philadelphia’s Arch Diocesan GJ Report and I believe Altoona-Johnstown also…
As I understood it from reports on the Philadelphia’s GJ Report they only included those cases that a living witness victim was willing to come to testify for.
The institutional catholic church is sick and is no longer a vehicle for the True Catholic faith.
The Pope of the Catholic Church can not be elected from any of these VII clergy, the corruption of sodomy and Communism is widespread and it is very doubtful that any of them hold the Catholic faith. If any do, they are obviously still compromised. He must be elected by the clergy ordained in PreVII rites. That’s the only thing concrete that we can examine and these men have been Communists and/or sodomites and lying about it, claiming the Catholic faith. If we aren’t water boarding, we can only look at something concrete like the rites used for their ordinations. You’ve got pre and post VII rites, that’s concrete. The sickness is VII; it must be heresy and it must be condemned as it always has been.
I hear people talking about only having Pre-VII priests, but aren’t these guys getting pretty long in the tooth? If the faith is going to burn out if we don’t have Pre-VII priests from Pre-VII ordinations, the end is nigh anyway, ala the biological solution.
We really need the Good Lord to clarify this situation, because we poor mortals are going to just debate and argue and end up goofing up the whole thing. We aren’t meant to run the church. Lord, help us!
Evangeline, What about SSPX? They have many young Priests. But you are right, I think the only thing we can possibly do is get a Pope, only he can run the Church.
Something to think about .
This is for the thinking Catholic who learned their Catechism and are concerned about the Sacraments and the plague of active sodomite clerics. ( and of course we all know here that V2 changed everything )
posted on Toronto Catholic Witness
The Diabolical and Homosexuality
“And thus not only was their doctrine Satanical, but their life too was diabolical”
St. John Chrysostom
posted on Vox Cantoris
The sacraments are valid ex opere operato; to say they are not based on the sinfulness of the cleric is the heresy of Donatism.
Dave how do you justify your accusation of Donatism when we must have Proper Intention to receive a sacrament validly?
As vox rightly pointed out annulments are conferred on those who
have a Sacramental marriage minus Proper Intention. Do you really think a seminarian who is an active sodomite recruited into the priesthood by a homosexual Rector or vocation Director has the Proper Intention to validly receive the Sacrament of Holy Orders?
I spoke to a retired priest Canon Lawyer on this very same subject years ago. His answer was that it appears the Vatican must redefine Proper Intention.
Donatism was the judgement the priest in mortal sin could not confect the Sacrament NOT that he was even a valid priest lacking Proper Intention for the Sacrament of Ordination.
Again how can a committed sodomite have Proper Intention to be a celibate priest? Why would one with the right Intention place himself in the near occasion of sin if he is a Believer?
2:16 pm, July 29, 2018
Blogger S said…
4:52 pm, July 29, 2018
Baptism, Confirmation, and Holy Orders leave an indelible spiritual mark upon the soul. It is different than marriage. What if you had a Priest your whole life that maintained a secret deviance and never ever believed in God but loved the idea of being treated like a holy man while he indulged in secret sins? He could die an old man with honors w/out ever having been found out. What you’re saying is that all of his Sacraments were invalid because he wasn’t really a Priest. Can’t you see that God would not put us in that danger? As far as I know if the rites are valid, the Priest is valid be he sinner or saint. That’s what you said +Sheen was implying to your friend: that even though men went into priesthood w/intention of destroying the Church he hoped they’d convert. Didn’t you write that the other day?
You are correct Melanie, proper intention has nothing to do with the interior subjective character of the individual. Intention manifests itself in the outward objective actions of the ordinand and minister. He would have to state explicitly that he has no intention of giving or receiving Holy Orders no matter what is said or done. Simply being a sodomite does not make an outward objective action that says such a thing. I have tried several times to explain this to Sweep but I guess she does not fully understand this distinction. Likewise, someone who has the intention of ordaining a bishop but uses a defective form, like the current Episcopal Ordination Rite of 1968, may not ordain validly based on the defection. His intentions do not correct the defect. The sacrament may be invalid. The Church does not supply a remedy because the bishop meant to ordain a bishop. The correcr form must be used. It must signify what it does. I challenge anyone to read that 1968 Rite of Ordination of a Bishop and tell me what the intent is. It simply isnt there. You are assumed to know its to ordain a bishop but it never actually says it. So it lacks one of the essential parts of sacramental theology. It does not signify the purpose of the sacrament. For this reason, NO ordinations are ambigious and should be avoided.
If the validity of sacraments could be based on the intention of the person performing the sacrament, no one would ever be able to know whether any given sacrament is valid. That’s not how the Catholic Church operates.
Melanie , i have my own personal reservations about Bishop Fulton Sheen.
That said , I did speak with a priest Canon Lawyer myself. He stated grave doubts about validity of Ordinations regarding the Proper Intention for reception of the Sacrament by sodomites too.
I am neither a Canon Lawyer or a Theologian , but merely a pre Vatican Two Catholic Believer who personally has spoken to Bishops and a Cardinal and several priest Canon Lawyers about grave concerns with the many homosexual priests I have encountered first hand and what I have personally heard and seen myself from these alleged Catholic priests.
Remember I am an Eastern Catholic who chose to change Rites because I was scandalized by the abandonment of the Traditional Catholic Faith I was raised and educated in .I changed Rites in 1977/78 and was horrified to witness the same sodomite infiltration of the Eastern Rite we were in during the mid nineties.
Right now Roman Catholics are waking up and quite angry because of the McCarrick revelations in the mainstream News. So much so, that a group of Americans cornered a Bishop in St Peters Square demanding to know why the Cardinal was not laicized.
Also, the Church always assumes the sacraments are valid when performed unless it can actually be shown that there was a defect in form, matter, or intention. I saw an instructional video once on the TLM. The priest used proper form and matter in the video and would have confected the sacrament but prior to the consecration he explicitly stated that it was not his intent to confect the sacrament and it was for instructional use only. He then perfomed the rubrics and said he correct form over the proper matter. That is an example of lack of intent.
sweep–I hope you don’t mind this question and you do not have to answer it if you prefer not to: If you found the same sodomite infiltration in the Eastern Rite, why have you chosen to stay. Wouldn’t the SSPX be a better option regardless of their obvious attachment to the V2 church? This is why serious Catholics feel confused about which church is the right one for them.
2Vermont, Where did you learn “Archbishop Thuc received approval from Pius XII to do consecrations without papal mandate?” I’d really appreciate it if you could point me to a source for this info.
Melanie ,we traveled an hour to go to an SSPX Mass for about three months. After seeing and hearing what I will only describe as some very Un Catholic behaviors and even homilies we decided this was not for us.
He is now Resistance MC.
Fortunately Fr William Ashley was allowed to take up residence in John Vennari’s old independent monastery near where we lived and we went there which was wonderful . There we were joined by three men from sspx in PA, one who had been a Deacon for the SSPX priest in PA and spent two years in the SSPX Winona seminary. They confirmed our reasons for extreme discomfort at the SSPX with the particular group of priests who have since become the Resistance MC, as did three other families with sons who also showed up at Fr Ashleys. After about two years , a bitter takeover of the property by the Diocese included ousting this wonderful priest .
We have since relocated to another part of the country. I will only go as far as to say that aside from Fr William Ashley’s TLM ,
the other PA chapel was definitely not what I knew as Traditional Catholicism. Apparently, more recently people on CathInfo have come to the same conclusion regarding these same priests.
Other SSPX priests are there at that PA chapel now though.
Melanie, I actually found this out on another forum, but I was able to find reference to it, explanation and Pius XI’s Motu Propio here:
You will not get an answer my2, because sweepinthefilth always ignores questions like this and prefers to spout lies and stories and rumors, truth is, I don’t think she goes to Mass anymore or maybe does with the Orthodox and not Eastern Rite. She just likes the sound of her own voice and making up that she is somebody important in the Church like how she was saying that she was “in the medical field” implying she is a doctor (which she is. NOT) and talking about Parkinson’s and St. John Paul and dementia like she could make a diagnosis or knew what she was talking about from seeing a guy on TV or maybe she is going to lie and say she was friends with him too. It’s not on topic and she hijacks threads to spout on. And link to all kinds of articles that are fake news a lot of the time.
Apologies My 2Cents for addressing my response below to Melanie rather than yourself.
Something Melanie stated was on my mind that i wanted to respond to.
Melanie you should remember that many times in history Catholics were left without a priest or the Sacraments in various places.
In the early days of this nation there were few priests here and the ones who were had to travel great distances on horseback so Catholics may have only had a priest once every six months or longer. In Japan there were entire villages of Catholics who were discovered to have held onto the Faith and passed it down for around a hundred years without priests. In the soviet occupied nations there were Catholics who became even stronger in their Faith for over half a century, despite being deprived of priests.
Also the Early Church gave us a plethora of saints and martyrs who grew in exceptional holiness having had only rare occasions of encountering priests. St Mary of Egypt comes to mind.
Why should we be surprised if we find ourselves , especially in this day in age, to be in a similar situation ?
I can tell you for certain there are many elderly Catholics in assisted livings , LTC facilities , nursing homes and confined individuals at home who have told me they have not seen a priest in years, despite numerous calls to rectories asking for a Catholic priest to visit by lay pastoral social team and social service workers in Hospice agencies.
Tom ,I assure you I do understand what you have said but since you are not a canon lawyer , I think I will have to agree with the poster on a blog above and with the priest Canon lawyer I myself discussed this with.
“Again how can a committed sodomite have Proper Intention to be a celibate priest? Why would one with the right Intention place himself in the near occasion of sin if he is a Believer?”
McCarrick himself is said to have Ordained more priests during his time as a Bishop than any other US Bishop. These “disordered” individuals installed their own personal secretaries as seminary rectors who screened out normal hetero men from gaining entrance to the seminary in lieu of other homosexuals.
The Church changed the rules on the Consecration of Bishops requiring two rather than one to confer on an individual the title of Bishop decades ago explaining
to avoid the possibility of one having been excommunicated as a secret Freemason.
That’s pretty rash judgement Skilts!
Good for you especially since you are allegedly new here ! Don’t forget I am Randy Engle posting incognito too, as you oft post.”hahahaha”
Our God is Merciful but he will not be mocked .
Sweep- regarding above, without conversion, they won’t be laughing in eternity.
See she is avoiding answering because she thinks she is ok to skip Mass herself every week and yell at other people. She says this because she thinks she is an Authority to decide about Priests but is actually just spreading slander and gossip. The comments are not on topic or brief. Vereccio’s original article 1223 words her comments 2278 and rolling up higher. She is hijacking the thread and turning it into her own blog for ranting. Why does he allow her to keep spouting? I do not think now she is Randy Engel because Verecio would not allow her to do this and knows her so sweepinthefilth is maybe a Randy Angle knockoff or pretender spreading gossip and lies. Avoid her!!!
Kilts, to put it directly, you are an obvious trouble maker. Just f*** off.
Well Sweep, I have to tell you that I find this situation amazing. It is obvious to anyone, even nonCatholics that the Church changed w/Vatican II, INTO SOMETHING MONSTROUS. Popes do not change the Church so that GUY was not a Pope and the GUYS who came after him were not either, otherwise they would have condemned the whole mess. Now, all Rites from this new church are doubtful, atLEAST. But we still have Bishops and Priests w/unquestionably valid Rites. The Sedes are probably holding out hope that SSPX will admit what is OBVIOUS and then they could go into conclave and elect a Pope. I think that right now any Catholic attending any of these TLM Masses are enabling them. Don’t go! Make these guys get us a Pope. They are comfortable in their Chapels under their General Superior and they are being tempted by Rome. There will never be a time this is going to be a popular thing to do. But if they get the Church a Pope, Catholics will COME HOME. I’m tired of this. I’m going to write to Father Pagliarani to plead with him to get us a Pope and then I’m going to have to avert my eyes from this wreck until we celebrate the election of a Pope or I’m being starved to death by the damnable antichrist. There is nothing else I can do, just a letter and Rosaries. And I defended Steve Skojec and Catholics for making an honest mistake thinking that Jorge was Pope but no longer. If anyone thinks he is a Pope that person is willfully blind and will be held accountable for being ridiculous and they are not helping the Church get a Pope. So frankly, I’m mad at them.
For any right thinking Catholic to believe a ssa seminarian can make a sincere Act of Contrition and truthfully say to God ,”I firmly promise with the help if Thy Grace to sin no more and avoid the NEAR OCCASION OF SIN.” , is ludicrous.
That is very funny coming from you Benedict (someone here said that is your name) who openly said YOU were here to cause trouble and ADMITTED that you have been banned from many other sites also for causing trouble. I am not causing trouble. Sweepinthefilth is going to get the combox shutdown because she won’t stop and control herself and her lies and you said you were done here but now you have been teaming up with her. why don’t you both go away (except as you said it “f**k off”) because you and she both are angry and bitter people and leave the combox in peace.
i am not angry in the least . In fact I have been laughing about the real fake news like this link.
Sean Cardinal O’Malley had to be repeatedly confronted before finally relenting on his Boston scam to profit from abortion
BOSTON’S HOUR OF ACCOUNTABILITY DRAWS NEAR
By Judie Brown
June 15, 2009
The furor over the July 1 deadline facing Sean Cardinal O’Malley, of the Archdiocese of Boston, has been newsworthy for many weeks. Meanwhile, however, the clock is ticking and the fear is that Caritas Christi’s agreement with CeltiCare will go into effect with nary a whimper from the decision makers at the chancery. That would indeed be a tragedy of no small proportions.
As we said in our statement of this past Friday,
While Catholics and pro-lifers around the country await a definitive statement from the Archdiocese of Boston indicating that it will not participate in or facilitate abortions or other procedures contrary to Catholic teaching, Cardinal O’Malley’s latest statement raises even more questions.
The archdiocese has acknowledged that an agreement has been reached with Celtic Group, Inc. – a subsidiary of St. Louis-based Centene Corporation – for a joint healthcare venture. We know that CeltiCare includes abortion and “family planning services” in its coverage and has promised to continue this policy after July 1.
The archdiocese’s statement also acknowledged that the agreement requires modification. This is a positive step, but certainly not acceptable as a final answer.
What is disconcerting is that Cardinal O’Malley and the Boston archdiocese have thus far failed to clearly explain how abortion and “family planning services” will not occur in Catholic healthcare facilities. The terms of CeltiCare’s contract with the state government specifically require coverage for abortions and other “reproductive health” services. How then could Caritas Christi – which owns 49 percent of the for-profit CeltiCare – justify its involvement and direct connection with this business while adhering to the Catholic Church’s unequivocal teachings on abortion, contraception and sterilization?
Even if patients seeking abortions or contraception will be outsourced to a third-party referral service, this does not remove the archdiocese’s culpability for involvement in procedures that violate the Church’s fundamental moral teachings.
Most concerning of all is the following quote from Mr. Ralph de la Torre, president of Caritas Christi: “When a patient seeks such a procedure, Caritas health care professionals will be clear that (a) the hospital does not perform them and (b) the patient must turn to his or her insurance for further guidance” [emphasis added].
Boston Catholic commentator Carol McKinley responded well to this statement: When the patient “turns to his or her insurance company,” they are “turning” to the “HMO” [of] which the Cardinal and Caritas are co-owners, [CeltiCare]. Therefore, the Cardinal and Caritas are providing these services…
With the exception of removing family planning, abortion, sterilization, embryonic stem cell research and other moral evils covered under the HMO the Cardinal has an ownership interest in, there is no conceivable modification to the arrangement that could ever be in compliance with Catholic moral teaching.
Incrementally separating the Boston archdiocese from committing an abortion or from the provision of contraception, sterilization and other such “services” does not negate the fact that, through this agreement, Catholic hospitals will ultimately be referring mothers to abortion and/or contraception facilities such as Planned Parenthood, if the deal between Caritas Christi and CeltiCare remains as it is now written.
Cardinal O’Malley can stop this today with one word. We beg Cardinal O’Malley and the Boston archdiocese to prevent yet another scandal by providing a clear defense of Catholic moral teaching, rather than a pact driven far more by financial interests than fidelity to the Catholic faith.
Further, McKinley, who is no stranger to controversy or making sure all the facts add up, wrote this last Saturday:
Can a Catholic Cardinal bid on a contract that includes performing abortions, give written assurances they will either perform them or contract with people outside of their network to perform them, create an entity to send the women to the abortionists and take 49% ownership in that entity who then hires subcontractors to perform abortions, hires bilingual phone operators who will give the woman the number of the abortionists they’ve subcontracted, tell their employees at the hospital to give the number out of their 49% owned corporation?
What level of ownership interest can they take in the set up that would make the arrangement consistent with the Gospel of Life and Catholic theology?
After they have set this all up, can they then submit a revision of a partnership agreement to reduce their interests to 3% ownership in the arrangement? 1% ownership in the arrangement?
After you bid on a contract that compels you to promise to perform abortions and you promise in writing to perform them – what is the structure in a corporation that the Cardinal can claim his arrangement meets compliance with Catholic ethics?
When the Cardinal placed members of NARAL as his Advisory Board Members in his new business venture, what kind of advice to you suppose he is seeking? What are the ramifications of such advice?
McKinley and the majority of those concerned about this grave situation in the Boston archdiocese have asked how, in God’s name, this agreement with the secular corporate structure of CeltiCare could possibly concur with the teachings of the Catholic Church, as set forth in Humanae Vitae and Evangelium Vitae. Try as we might, we cannot find a statement in either encyclical letter that justifies accepting a little bit of evil in exchange for an allegedly greater good. As a matter of fact, Pope John Paul II taught,
The moral conscience, both individual and social, is today subjected, also as a result of the penetrating influence of the media, to an extremely serious and mortal danger: that of confusion between good and evil, precisely in relation to the fundamental right to life.
The condition the Holy Father described is so evident in so many corners of the culture today that we have to ask ourselves if perhaps, in his quest to aid the poor and needy in his archdiocese, the cardinal and his advisors felt pressured into making this deal for altruistic reasons. Perhaps they feel compelled to act without seriously considering the questions we and so many others have raised. While serving the poor is indeed a noble goal, this plan’s consequences are so serious that we have adamantly called for a reexamination of the agreement and dissolution of the contract before July 1.
Phil Lawler, a well-known Catholic commentator and reporter, examined the matter and wrote,
While pro-life activists in Boston have pleaded for Caritas Christi to withdraw from the CeltiCare initiative, abortion advocates have also been watching the situation closely and demanding reassurance that the new state-funded agency will impose no restrictions on access to abortion. The efforts of abortion advocates — unlike those of pro-life activists — have been successful. The Boston Globe reported:
Brian Delaney, a spokesman for CeltiCare, said an abortion rights group, NARAL Pro-Choice of Massachusetts, will serve on an advisory group for the health plan but he did not know whether any Catholic groups would be on the panel.
Boston archdiocesan officials have stressed that no abortions will be performed at the hospitals of the Caritas Christi chain. That claim is not in dispute. The question is whether Caritas Christi, through its partnership in CelticCare, will provide — and perhaps even profit from — abortions performed at other facilities. CeltiCare advertisements indicate that Planned Parenthood will be enlisted to provide “reproductive services.”
The bottom line is that NARAL and Planned Parenthood’s involvement is the proverbial straw that has finally broken the camel’s back and thus the Archdiocese of Boston is officially ending the charade. But, as of this moment, neither the word “abortion” nor the abortion cartel’s involvement have been mentioned in a single archdiocesan document or statement. How can that be?
What is it going to take for the Archdiocese of Boston’s officials to take definitive action? Please keep them in your prayers and continue to communicate your concerns to them. The clock is ticking; the hour is late; the Boston Massacre of 2009 could be just around the corner …
Cardinal Sean O’Malley, OFM, Cap.
Cardinal Archbishop of Boston
Office of the Cardinal
66 Brooks Drive
Braintree, MA 02184-3839
Judie Brown is president of American Life League and a member of the Pontifical Academy for Life.
And the Visitation to Ireland’s seminaries was a disgraceful whitewash – and Cardinal OMalley was one of the persons responsible for it.
The Great Apostasy is from the top down. The tacit cooperation with all the heresy and perversions by the majority of the Church, and even great silence on the part of many the “faithful” priests and lay people with platforms is truly terrible. The contempt for God and the salvation of souls is truly shocking in those with public platforms who claim to be Catholic.
Its not the Zero Tolerance Policy but God’s Law and the Holy Faith that need to be followed.
Bring back the Faith. True justice comes with it – not “social” justice.
I was just very recently told that an apparent Catholic priest chaplain in a once-Catholic (still nominally/fraudulently Catholic hospital in Dublin has appointed two women to give the Sacrament of the “Last Rites” to patients prior to surgery, etc. Lord have mercy. There is no end to their evil ways.
In Ireland, “Catholic” hospitals have been formally participating in a statutory scheme to murder children in utero in certain circumstances, since 2015 (including, for instance, the Mater Misericordiae hospital under Archbishop Diarmuid Martin.
When one has been simmering in a pot of sodomite stew for so long without speaking out against the destruction of souls bodies and psyches through this unnatural vice , abortion is meaningless to you.
Being anti abortion is also an easy image to wear for a veneer of holiness.
The real test is to look at the recipe’s ingredients.
If you support the filthy sex education of children in your school and the deprivation and usurpation of the parent’s natural rights and responsibilities in this matter, then you are NOT pro life.
Only parents have the God given natural instinct to know when their individual child is mature in their understanding enough to present what should be a private parental instruction on the topic.
No one, aside from the parent, should broach the subject and disturb the innocence of a child.
Robbing families of this responsibility under the guise of combating the culture or the lack of duty on the part of some parents , is no excuse because it is being used as a tool of perverse pederast groomers.
One only has to look at the Vatican’s one time pick of pro life representative , the late Bishop James McHugh of unholy memory, to see his support of the March of Dimes purchasing of aborted fetuses and his vile involvement in lobbying for sex ed K-12 in New Jersey’s
public and parochial schools. Start by reading the “McHugh Chronicles”, I lived it first hand from that perverted source , McHugh and his minions .
kilts–I did say that sweep did not have to answer if she preferred not to. You must have an awful amount of time on your hands to count words.
Forgive my ignorance—ssa?
All the terrible evils are interrelated, the very denial of Holy God and our duty to love and obey Him above all elae. The rebellion is complete and our consecrated leaders have led the apostasy and war against God and our given nature. Dear Lord God, help us persevere in the Faith and be willing to suffer onto death in obedience to Our Creator and Redeemer by the graces still available to us. Lord, have mercy on us.
Everyone, please check out Ann Barnhardt’s exceptional analysis of the diabolical dynamic which exists between sexual predators and those who enable them in order to leverage the sexual abominations of the former for the sexual, financial, and ecclesiastical prestige and power of the latter.
Louie, I hope you invite Ann to become a contributor to the The Catholic Inquisitor. BTW, the initial issue was excellent. I especially found Randy Engel and Cornelia R. Ferreira respective articles to be extremely well researched, reasoned, and informative.
I hope people like Ann, Randy, MM/CF from The Remnant, MV from Church Militant TV, and SS from OnePeterFive, yourself and many others such as FW from The Stumbling Block, Vox Cantoris join forces, regardless of the well established differences and even conflicts which exists between some of the individuals listed, and investigate and make public any scandalous information regarding Cardinal McCarrick’s former housemate and supposedly clueless collaborator to both Cardinal McCarrick and Fr. Maciel, LC, the one and only Cardinal Farrell. Cardinal Farrell is heading the World Meeting of Families and under his leadership, Fr. Martin, SJ, among other heretics, is scheduled to address this meeting of Catholic families in order to promote Modernistic morality, including sodomy. In fact, all efforts should be made to investigate and make public any scandalous information regarding Fr. Martin, SJ. Sexual predation and/or enabling may not be limited to just those who are also in service of heresy but I suspect it is highly correlated with it. Neither sexual predation/enabling nor heresy can be given any toleration; all those so involved must be exposed and punished.