Over the past several months, Satan’s minions have scored some impressive victories in their ongoing war against Christ the King. The results are entirely evident as “the great blessings of real liberty, well-ordered discipline, peace and harmony” (QuasPrimas 19) have become increasingly rare, with the incidence of violence, injustice and poverty steadily rising.
In recent days alone, the City of Man that godless liberals labor to construct has grown tremendously in both size and scope. The City of God, it seems, has precious little, if any, territory left.
Certainly, this battle has been raging for centuries on end, and yet, something about our day is palpably different than those that preceded it. All indications are that we have arrived at a tipping point in human history; we are teetering, it seems, on the brink. One gets the sense that the status quo simply cannot hold for very much longer; civilization is poised to topple in either one direction or the other.
On one side, the Prince of this world stands ready to welcome humanity to a virtual Hell on earth, a dreadful place where decent people, the Christian faithful in particular, can well expect to encounter horrors as yet unimagined. Should the godless liberals prevail, this is the world that awaits us, our children and our grandchildren.
On the other side is the King of kings, who draws all men to Himself and wills that every man and every nation should submit to His “sweet and saving yoke” (ibid.).
Indeed, even if the scales should tip in the right direction, this world will remain a Valley of Tears where peace is all too often elusive, at least until such time as the consecration of Russia is done and the Immaculate Heart of Mary triumphs. Still, there can be no doubt that the only way for the common good to be served in the interim is for the godless liberal left to suffer a major setback, and soon.
At this undeniably pivotal moment in time, the days of patiently tolerating those in my life who make no bones about their support for the liberal agenda – be they family members or friends – treating them as if they are anything other than avowed enemies of God, are over. The choices that lie ahead and what they entail are far too obvious. The stakes are far too high. I can no longer pretend that we have anything of value in common.
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places. (Eph. 6:12)
I realize that we have reached a point where it is no longer enough to pray for the conversion of liberal loved ones, even though I will continue to do so until I breathe my last. As for how we should proceed, please see the following:
“At this undeniably pivotal moment in time, the days of patiently tolerating those in my life who make no bones about their support for the liberal agenda – be they family members or friends – treating them as if they are anything other than avowed enemies of God, are over.”
Louie: Thank you for providing such much needed clarity. I have so many within my own family, that are a) lukewarm Novus Ordo Catholics and b) Trump haters, some even having TDS. Like you, I will continue to pray for them but I don’t want to socialize with them.
We must love the Truth above all else and anything or anyone who doesn’t want to do that will succumb to this diabolical disorientation on steriods now.
I appreciate your strong, orthodox, Church Militant stance on all things Catholic. May God richly bless you for your love of Him!
All roads lead to Rome. False Francis headed the demonic pagan worship, at our Church in Rome. He honored Satan, where our first Pope St. Peter, honored Christ our King.
False Francis is destruction.
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Jesus bless our faith in You Lord.
I’m with you all the way, Louie. Great post.
Sadly, CatholiCucks will eventually join white ethnomasochist cucks—of both the lib-cuck and cuckservative varieties—in bending the knee to their new masters; that is, to “People of Color.” Pitiful. Just plain pitiful. There can no longer be any question that the supreme fantasy of white ethnomasochists consists of being eternally and publicly gang raped by Arturo, Reggie, Mohammed, Yip, and Shekelberg as the ultimate form of virtue signaling. Truly Pitiful. And completely mad. And they’ll join the world in condemning those of us who refuse to bend the knee as the mad ones.
“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us.’”
-St. Anthony the Great
[Cucks, in response to this, kindly spare us all of your panty twisting, your squeals of RAAAAAYYYCCIISS, your whimpering against vulgarity, and all the rest of it. Resist your programmed impulse to virtue signal. All of it is hereby anticipated and rejected.]
Of course we’ll spare you “Alphonsus”. We’ve won and you’ve lost and so all we need to do is laugh at you.
Who are “we”?
Kneeling, not bending of the knee:
https://wsvn.com/news/local/healthcare-workers-at-jmh-kneel-for-moment-of-silence-in-memory-of-george-floyd/
This happened all across America yesterday.
Louie,
We all know these stressful times too often bring out the worst in people. I can’t blame you if you haven’t looked at the hellish ugliness of most of the interchanges in your comment boxes lately, but these Psalms you want people to pray, without the rich context and important cautions provided by Saints like Thomas and Augustine, or the balance provided by the full 150 of them, could easily be a source of serious temptation to sin for many souls so lacking maturity.
St. Thomas emphasized the element of Mercy in all of God’s Punishments, so easy to overlook if we dwell on the punishments themselves without due reflection on their use by Him “to draw the sinner out of complacency to confront the gravity of his misdeeds”,…moving from fear to hope to penitence.”
As David also said in Psalm 138: “[23] Prove me, O God, and know my heart: examine me, and know my paths. [24] And see if there be in me the way of iniquity: and lead me in the eternal way.
Are you telling me that you haven’t seen the many pictures and videos of white ethnomasochists literally on their knees paying obeisance to blacks?
Is there no end to today’s supply of quivering cucks?
How would you come to that conclusion when I just gave you a post about kneeling?
Psalm 59
1 Deliver me from my enemies, O my God;
protect me from those who rise up against me.
2 Deliver me from those who work evil;
from the bloodthirsty save me.
3 Even now they lie in wait for my life;
the mighty stir up strife against me.
For no transgression or sin of mine, O Lord,
4 for no fault of mine, they run and make ready.
Rouse yourself, come to my help and see!
5 You, Lord God of hosts, are God of Israel.
Awake to punish all the nations;
spare none of those who treacherously plot evil.Selah
6 Each evening they come back,
howling like dogs
and prowling about the city.
7 There they are, bellowing with their mouths,
with sharp words[a] on their lips—
for “Who,” they think,[b] “will hear us?”
8 But you laugh at them, O Lord;
you hold all the nations in derision.
9 O my strength, I will watch for you;
for you, O God, are my fortress.
10 My God in his steadfast love will meet me;
my God will let me look in triumph on my enemies.
11 Do not kill them, or my people may forget;
make them totter by your power, and bring them down,
O Lord, our shield.
12 For the sin of their mouths, the words of their lips,
let them be trapped in their pride.
For the cursing and lies that they utter,
13 consume them in wrath;
consume them until they are no more.
Then it will be known to the ends of the earth
that God rules over Jacob.Selah
14 Each evening they come back,
howling like dogs
and prowling about the city.
15 They roam about for food,
and growl if they do not get their fill.
16 But I will sing of your might;
I will sing aloud of your steadfast love in the morning.
For you have been a fortress for me
and a refuge in the day of my distress.
17 O my strength, I will sing praises to you,
for you, O God, are my fortress,
the God who shows me steadfast love.
Spoiler alert: humanity in general can be quite awful without the grace of God. Europeans are not exempt from this.
After all, Communism’s birthplace was Europe, and I would argue that communist influence and infiltration throughout America’s institutions over the past decades (with the resultant loss of civil knowledge, historical understanding, and disdain for religion and morality) is far more relevant to the current breakdown in societal fabric than the simplistic ethnocentric frame you keep spouting.
How convenient that you fail to mention the central role of a certain foreign (((tribe))) in formulating and spreading modern communism.
Well, which Jews are you talking about?
Religious Jews? If so, do you mean orthodox or reformed?
Ethnic Jews? If so, are you referring to Ashkenazi, Sephardi, or Mizrahi?
Political Jews? Are you referring to those who view everything through the lens of “Israel First”, to those who hate the very existence of the current nation-state of Israel (for whatever reason), or to those who fall somewhere in between?
Or maybe you’re referring to those who have no connection to Jewish identity other than a fascination for their culture and history and a willingness to defend it (which, at least according to some, is enough to make you a Jew, which kind of renders the whole label pointless in terms of defining characteristics; this is especially ironic when you have Jews who also call themselves atheists and agnostics)?
I know what point you’re trying to go for (because seriously, cutely using triple parentheses does nothing to hide who you’re actually talking about. Man up and name names!). However, treating Jews as a monolithic entity (as you clearly seem to be angling for) is just as nonsensical as treating America or Europe as monolithic entities.
Typical cuckery. Pitiful. Start reading this immediately:
https://www.fidelitypress.org/book-products/the-jewish-revolutionary-spirit
Given that Fidelity Press shows positive reviews **from Jews** about the book in question, you’ve made my point for me.
Thanks!
Read the book, cuck.
And if you can do so without soiling yourself in a convulsively virtue signaling fit, watch this:
Prof. Kevin B. Macdonald – The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession
https://youtu.be/rWWfPWdbPC8
And if you still haven’t soiled your panties, see:
Japanese Shocked & Refreshed by Non-Ethnomasochist White Man
https://youtu.be/JGzbokzpPIo
Thank you Man.
I really needed this.
All of my family and friends are NO Catholics. I met my best friend 6 years ago and he was a very liberal catholic and in the meantime he has become more orthodox and more confident in embracing true Catholic values.
The others. I don’t know what to say.
Anyway, your article was short and expressed everything very concisely. I will reread it several times not because it was hard to understand. But because every sentence is what I need to take to heart. also, it is an article i can send to the fence sitters who ask me questions and i don’t have a good answer. this is everything they need.
thank you again,
Roger
AlphonsusJr,
For all of your public protests against the practice of virtue signalling, you sure spend an awful lot of time doing just that.
No end, and I see them as well. I just looked at an image of two white people publicly washing the feet of BLM organizers, with a black police officer’s hands on their backs in, I don’t know, “support”? And today in a wealthy, white community I saw a large group of wealthy, white people, expressing their solidarity with BLM, and they were fairly aggressive about it, coming out into the streets with their signs, almost demanding a thumbs up or horn beep to express our solidarity. They got nothin.
I don’t know which color of people I dislike more right now, quite honestly, I can’t stand any of them. Of all the things one could anticipate happening in this crazy world, I have to admit I never saw cultural psychotic break as one of them. Nuclear war, yes, but never this. Of course, I work in education, and I can tell you the last generation has been so soaked in promotion of the 60’s Civil Rights and other protests, it’s been beat into them all their lives. Add to that a desire to be a member of a victim class, atheism, and the sick need for “fame”, and there you go.
White people have a sick need for the approval of blacks. This has been going on for some time and it’s just reached fever pitch with all this. White guilt, and it’s exponentially worse now. Idiots.
Oh, and I forgot. My child is not calling me, and I probably know why. We are on opposite sides of this political fence, and we dread the conversation, which we won’t have if I can help it. A few days ago a nephew became so angry at me he looked like he would like to get violent. I don’t want to make anyone more frightened, we’re all freaked out, but I would like to suggest to people to be extremely careful about what you are saying and to whom. Right now even relatives, especially young ones, are volatile and primed for violence. Be prudent.
A mass psychosis, a deadly mind virus of competitive virtue signaling is ravaging the land. Actually it’s deeper than that. What we’re seeing is utterly satanic. The lies, the hate, the lawlessness, the violence…and all of it masked as righteousness. And those who dare question the insane Narrative are irrevocably branded as Badthinkers. And this will continue even though Narrative Collapse will surely occur, as it always does.
There are yet a few who haven’t yet embraced the madness. Here’s some serious Crimethink for you:
JOHN DERBYSHIRE: I Will Not Genuflect To This Church Of Antiracism
https://vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-i-will-not-genuflect-to-this-church-of-antiracism
“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us.’”
-St. Anthony the Great
Evangeline,
We’re essentially seeing America’s own version of China’s Cultural Revolution from the 1960s – 1970s unfolding right before our eyes.
BLM and Antifa are the new Red Guard.
Exactly right, ASM.
Evangeline this is happening to friends of mine also.
@Evangeline
It takes something extraordinary to get deaf ears to hear across racial lines.
Here’s one fearless woman’s effort to solve that problem :
https://www.facebook.com/realCandaceOwens/videos/273957870461345
AlphonsusJr, I appreciate some of the links you’ve given. It’s nice to know there are pockets of reality left out there. But I would be careful the way you post. Not sure if you’re retired or still working, but people are losing livelihoods now, over what they post online. It’s pure demonic at this point. I read about a soccer player who got kicked out of the league because of something his wife shared on social media. It’s sick.
I’m not concerned. I can afford it. And even if I couldn’t, I would engage in no cuckery.
My anonymity is only so that I don’t have to shoot someone coming at me, which I’ll do without hesitation, being always armed.
Dear AlphonsusJr,
Why don’t you use the term “effeminacy” instead of the awful c-word? “Effeminates!…” sounds actually Catholic and is much more powerful.
Cuck is actually much more powerful, as shown by the reaction of cucks, especially cuckservatives, to this word. Plus, it’s not synonymous with effeminacy. Cuck has a wider range of meaning; for example, it captures the insanity of the competitively virtue signaling white ethnomasochism we see everywhere today pitifully engaged in by both cuckservatives and lib-cucks.
The word is indeed very ugly. It perfectly matches the pitiful, traitorous, and mindless ugliness of what cucks do…while wrapping themselves in false halos, of course.
Related, I direct you to this:
Cuckservatism: The Cuckoo In The Conservative Movement’s Nest https://vdare.com/articles/cuckservatism-the-cuckoo-in-the-conservative-movement-s-nest
Tucker’s commentaries of the last seven nights have been heroic. He’s standing virtually alone in the mainstream media in coming close to getting really real and thus fighting Satan and his minions with their false halos. He even calls out the cuckservatives.
https://youtu.be/fv6Y3a4BV6E
The mob will surely kill him.
It’s happening in the UK, too. It is disgusting and cowardly behaviour.
Lots of Catholic conferences always going on. Here are some topics they should treat:
Choosing Sides, and Locations, in the Coming Civil War
Satan & His Minions Often Adorn Themselves with False Halos: BLM & Antifa as Case Studies
CatholiCucks: A Strange Species of Cuckservative
Never Apologize to Satan and His Servants…Especially to Competitively Virtue Signaling SJWs
Blacks as the Jews’ Proxy Warriors in their Eternal War Against Christendom
“Racism”: A Twentieth Century Invention of the Perfidious Jews
Suicidally Xenophilic White Ethnomasochism: The Logical Consequence of Renouncing Christ
Godless White Ethnomasochists: The Most Pitiful People on Earth
It’s a fascinating, and surely nauseating, example of a successful psy-op, and of groupthink and the competitive virtue signaling it spawns.
Otherwise called Tinpot Nazis: Live in Person
Alphonsus is an accomplished ornithologist
SJW Attack Survival Guide
https://www.the-niceguy.com/contributors/SurvivalGuide.html
Well, I don’t think that anyone who knows me would call me a “nazi” (I’m way too young to be an actual nazi, apart from anything else) but I totally agree with the the final point: “Godless White Ethnomasochists: The Most Pitiful People on Earth”. I really can’t think of anything more pathetic than despising oneself for being what God made one. Frankly, I’ve never owned any slaves, so I see no reason to apologise for the fact that other people (two centuries + ago) did. I’m prepared to apologise for my own behaviour, should it justifiably be called to account but I take no blame for the behaviour of others.
How anyone could look at what’s going on in Seattle (while your government all but encourages this utter lawlessness) and feel any sympathy whatsoever for these savages is quite beyond my comprehension. Do you really want to live in a dystopian hellscape?
If you ignore the irritating and really rather unCatholic hyperbole pouring forth from AlphonsusJr, you should be able to see that some (*some*, not *all*) of what he says is not without merit.
The supreme fear of lib-cucks, cuckservatives, and CatholiCucks—all white ethnomasochists—is being called RAAAAAYYYCCIISS. They’ll do anything, absolutely anything, to avoid being called RAAAAAAYYYCCIISSSS.
This is being copiously shown here:
https://twitter.com/vdare
anna mack wrote: “Frankly, I’ve never owned any slaves, so I see no reason to apologise for the fact that other people (two centuries + ago) did.”
Slavery in the United States may have ended 155 years ago, and it is a fact that there is no one alive today with a living memory of either owning slaves or being a slave himself. Nevertheless institutionalized racism carried on long after. Judging by the way you have spelled certain words I gather that you’re not an American, so I don’t know if you’re aware of Jim Crow laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws and anti-miscegenation laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-miscegenation_laws_in_the_United_States. One also has to take into account the fact that WASPS (who were the progenitors of the current-day liberals) truly did try to “keep the black man down” through the means of social engineering. E. Michael Jones explored this in minute detail in his book “The Slaughter of the Cities” and to a limited degree in an earlier book entitled “Living Machines” (one has to be careful with Dr. Jones however. He’s a bit confused when it comes to more purely philosophical, theological and ecclesiological matters. Plus his general tone tends to be, shall we say, rabid at times. He’s a bit of a crank.)
Racist attitudes carry on today, particularly among the “white” underclasses (the less educated and disenfranchised sorts). The ascendency and election of Donald Trump has emboldened many of these sorts and brought them out of the woodwork. He has even encouraged them on more than one occasion- one of many reasons why it baffles me that the “conservative” and “traditionalist” Catholics give their allegiance to and make excuses for the man. I find this attitude to be very disturbing.
anna mack wrote: “If you ignore the irritating and really rather unCatholic hyperbole pouring forth from AlphonsusJr, you should be able to see that some (*some*, not *all*) of what he says is not without merit.”
Very little.
I believe that it behooves Catholics in the day and age we live in to try to extract whatever truth is found in whatever people say and write. But whatever bits of truth AlphonsusJr has had to say thus far in so many of his comments is so entangled with ridiculous angry-white-guy bigotry, outright racist ideology, an apparent lack of historical perspective, and an implicitly Augustinian metaphysic (i.e. philosophy) rather than a genuinely Christian realist (Thomist) one that it’s not worth my time to even try to disentangle and unpack it- certainly not in a venue such as this.
Not to mention that when a person such as he goes out of his way to continuously hurl juvenile, unprovoked insults at both myself and others, whether in real life or online, I cease taking them seriously and simply shake the dust from my feet.
Such a pitiful, pitiful cuck. Proven yet again. And indeed most likely a stinking sodomite. And certainly a wretched heretic. Very sad.
Some Really Real Tweets
https://youtu.be/9-1PRPPW3FI
As I said, the hyperbole is irritating. No, I’m British but we’re having to put up with this evil Marxist behaviour as well, thanks to your policemen apparently being unable to behave like civilised human beings.
Slavery hasn’t actually been legal *within British bounds* since feudal times; you took somewhat longer to catch up but that really shouldn’t be our problem – much less an excuse to indulge in savagery. Do you think that only black people have ever been slaves? Have you never heard of the Barbary slave trade, which went on until the late 17th century, with raids actually taking place on the English coast? We all need to live in the present, not the past.
I most only engage with fellow sedevacantists and, from them, I get the impression that Trump is less “good for being Trump” than “good for not being Clinton”.
typo – “mostly only engage…” It’s very vexing that we can’t edit posts 😉
Well, no one wants to be needlessly offensive but I agree that the brain does need to engage at some point.
At some point, cucks might come to understand, dull as they are, that my “irritating hyperbole” is entirely intentional. Cucks are so stupefied, so psy-op’ed, so programmed that only shock treatment might get through to them. It isn’t nice. It isn’t polite. It isn’t genteel. War never is.
anna mack wrote: “As I said, the hyperbole is irritating. No, I’m British but we’re having to put up with this evil Marxist behaviour as well, thanks to your policemen apparently being unable to behave like civilised human beings.”
Racism and abusive behavior among American police is a serious problem in our country. No question. Coupled with the fact that police forces themselves have been militarized in the wake of the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent passing of the Patriot Act, and the fact that police departments recruit disproportionately from the ranks of veteran of our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (many of whom are maladjusted to civilian life or have PTSD), it’s a perfect storm for all sort of problems.
Police aren’t soldiers occupying a hostile foreign enemy nor should they be- they’re a combination of night watchmen and social workers who have to earn the trust of the communities whom they serve. When they fail to do that, they fail themselves and their communities.
anna mack wrote: “We all need to live in the present, not the past.”
Indeed we do. Regrettably, endemic and institutionalized racism is still within living memory in the United States in a way that it isn’t in Britain. Plus, we still have monuments here in the USA to a nation (The Confederacy) which was founded largely (but not solely- history is far more complex than that) on the basis perserving the institution of chattel slavery.
anna mack wrote: “I most only engage with fellow sedevacantists and, from them, I get the impression that Trump is less “good for being Trump” than “good for not being Clinton”.”
That’s encouraging to hear. I’m sure the British perspective on our affairs here is different. That’s about the only equivocally good thing I myself could say about Mr. Trump: “he’s not Clinton”.
Just think, NQP, even though you’re most likely a stinking sodomite and certainly a wretched heretic, the cucks here will yet again treat your poisonous cultural Marxism filth with kid gloves…while instead attacking me.
It’s what cuckservatives do. They always punch right…and eagerly go butts up for leftists. Pitiful. Just pitiful.
AlphonsusJr, I’m well aware that your language is intentional but I don’t believe that it has the desired effect. It’s precisely because of it that what you call the “cuckservatives” can comfortably dismiss *all* your arguments without really considering any of them.
By the way, because you are right on one or two points, doesn’t make you right full stop.
NQP, I can well see that black people have had a difficult time in America but so have Native Americans (and it’s actually *they’re country*). All peoples have been subject to repression by stronger peoples at some point or another. This is the inevitable consequence of human nature without the civilising influence of obedience to God. However, only black people seem to make a fetish out of being victims, which I don’t understand. I also don’t understand why hating your “oppressor” makes you want to burn down your own neighbourhood (“I’m so mad at those white people, I’m going to burn my own house down!”). What I *do* understand is that mob rule is never justified and should never be tolerated – *never*.
As to racism, all human beings are racist to one degree or another. If we’re civilised, it only manifests itself in a liking for the familiar – a preference for “one’s own kind”. God made us into different races with different physical and mental traits, and only intense social engineering (brainwashing) can eradicate that (just as only intense social engineering makes women think that jobs are preferable to families). AlphonsusJr is quite correct that it has never been a good idea to mix races. In fact I believe that St Thomas Aquinas had something to say on that subject.
Frankly, none of this is about black lives mattering (something amply proven by the fact that the lives of the black policemen who have died don’t matter at all to the rioters). This is about dark forces not wasting a good crisis and using a mob of uneducated, low IQ people for their own purposes (the most immediate of which is obviously getting rid of Trump). Revolutions were ever thus.
NQP and AlphonsusJr, I suggest that you both watch this brilliant vlog from Candace Owens. Not all black people are stupid, AlphonsusJr, and black people have a choice *not* to be victims, NQP. What is going on at the moment is not justice for anyone – it is sad and downright evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPfoEvNJ74
That’s good by Candace Owens. I like her. Unfortunately, she’s few and far between among blacks, as are her fundamental influences: Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and Shelby Steele. And they’ll always be few and far between among blacks.
I’m afraid that statistics do suggest that, AlphonsusJr. It’s what makes the manipulation of so many African Americans into degenerate worshippers of criminals so evil. It must be absolutely sickening for intelligent and respectable black people to see this happening all around them.
In the UK, this manipulation has mostly been focused on poorly educated white working class people (what we now call “chavs”). The same thing happened to French and Russian peasants. As I said, revolutions were ever thus.
anna mack wrote: “However, only black people seem to make a fetish out of being victims, which I don’t understand.”
IMO this “victim-ism” has been “engineered” into so many of them through combination of leftist-liberal social policy and rhetoric. In other words, it is “second nature”.
I’m pretty far from being convinced that it is “first nature” as various sorts of racial ideology propose.
I would add, however, that this “victim-ism” is incidental to the racial profiling done by and racist attitudes found among all-too-many police officers here in the USA.
“IMO this “victim-ism” has been “engineered” into so many of them through combination of leftist-liberal social policy and rhetoric.” NQP, I agree (see my comment in reply to AlphonsusJr). It is clear that black communities were not always as destructive or self-destructive as they now are in America, and it’s why it’s so important that people like Candice Owens speak out. They are being used by dark and diabolically intelligent forces.
NQP,
You’ve repeatedly proven yourself as being most likely a stinking sodomite and most definitely a wretched heretic. Kindly leave us.
Anna,
See:
Communism’s “Most Powerful Weapon” https://youtu.be/41FNDg3xR6A
Communism’s “Most Powerful Weapon”
https://youtu.be/41FNDg3xR6A
anna mack wrote: “…it has never been a good idea to mix races.”
Once a racial ideology is accepted as a hard fact and actually implemented in the political and social spheres, how far does it go in praxis? Where are the boundaries?
That being said, how does one read back or reconcile the potentially infinite gradations between one “race” and another which can or could exist in the real world into such an ideology?
In theory, the idea of distinct “races” as something which is part and parcel of one’s biology seems sound, but in the real world that idea seems to break down. I believe that history bears this out.
correction- “can…exist” should be “do…exist”.
anna mack wrote: “God made us into different races with different physical and mental traits…”
I think it is a far more sound argument, and a far more Christian one at that, to start with the premise that God created each of us individually with a rational mind and a will capable of loving. That mind and that will are both utterly dependent upon the body for input (in the case of the mind) and output (in the case of the will).
Whatever physiological/phenotypical or learned/conditioned (that is to say “second nature”) differences each of us have, it’s a tough argument to categorize entire groups of people into hard and fast realities such as “races”. It always seems to break down in the real world when people actually get to know- which to say love- one each other in a truly Christian sense of both words.
Over the last couple weeks I have been listening to John Lane drone on and on and on and on and on. Finally, I finished the latest installment and in all those many many words the solution to the BIGGEST problem faced by humanity today, the fact that the chair of Peter is empty, EMPTY, is NOTHING, no importa. He’s good so…yeah no importa. The pivotal moment in the war against Satan, please. The pivotal moment in the war against Satan was when those sob’s tricked us into following a big fat vulgar Freemason bent on starting the New Order religion. WTH? If that guy Lane had only a New Order church to go get his sacraments from he would find a billion words to justify why he was going to do that. What a steaming pile of BULL. Literally, Jorge would have served the New Order perfectly if he sent out John Lane to alert everyone that the seat is vacant and it is of ZERO importance. Go to receive sacraments from the guy you like the most. Whatever you moronic Catholics do, just know that you can NOT fill the seat of Peter and you need to wait for God to act. This is depressing, I am completely black pilled. There are no good guys anymore.
“There are no good guys anymore.”
In my limited experience, there is virtually no one with a public voice (though there are ones with a private voice whom I know personally) who have a good grasp of the historical, philosophical and theological roots of the crisis the institutional church is in.
This is not to say that those who don’t seem to understand it are “bad guys”, however. If anything, sedevacantism is closer to the truth than anything else out there.
Unfortunately, sedevacantism relies on a rather ahistorical understanding of the institutional church and the papacy, a skewed (and ahistorical) understanding and interpretation of the canon of scripture taken as a whole and of individual books and and passages within it, and above all a neo-Platonic/Augustinian ideology superimposed upon (Apostolic) Tradition.
What Is “Racism”?
https://youtu.be/i1RTlvYAvcs
Melanie, trust me when I tell you that you are not alone in your thoughts and feelings about the Louie John Lane episodes. Louie needs to interview an actual sedevacantist …preferably a member of the clergy.
On that note, This is a useful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny5r9YphxHg
I would extend Fr. Desposito’s argument for formal sedevacantism to extend not merely to the bishop of Rome, but to any bishop who persistently, consistently fails fulfill a bishop’s role: to preserve and pass on the Apostolic Tradition in word and deed, or living a lifestyle which is consistently, manifestly contrary to both that Tradition and the natural law.
Canon laws to this end are useful and practical, but common sense and right reason is the basis of any law and take precedence over it. Therefore, we don’t necessarily need to lean on canon law to recognize when a bishop has lost authority or has never had it in the first place.
This might seem a bit anarchic, and I’m certainly no anarchist per se, but I prefer a little bit of apparent anarchy over adhering to a structure for structure’s sake when the structure works against (Apostolic) Tradition and the faith we each have which is founded upon it.
The thing is, they only differ substantially on who the guy is that they like the most. And I know this Lane guy would be like, -oh this Melanie character is just not built to understand the subtle nuances in what determines the validity or liceity of the Sacraments or the ordinations. It takes a great deal of study and delving into the original source material and reading every one of the theology manuals bla bla bla bla…….-No, I am a Catholic, if I have an IQ of 50 I can still be a Catholic and I get the Sacraments from the Priest that the POPE sends me. Nobody has sent nobody nowhere because we haven’t had a Pope in over 60 years. I do not want any man no matter how holy he is to offer me a Sacrament until we have a Pope. So who the heck do we talk to about that?
Melanie wrote: “It takes a great deal of study and delving into the original source material and reading every one of the theology manuals bla bla bla bla…”
Just attend the Latin Mass (or one of the Eastern rites) and read the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament and strive to live a life which is in line with the natural law. It really is that simple. Don’t fret about whether Fr So-and-So is a sedevacantist, an R&R or simply “really likes the Latin Mass because it’s beautiful”- these are confused and confusing times for many people, and that requires patience, prudence, fortitude and Magnanimity. It’s better to focus on the big picture- Apostolic Tradition and the natural law -that get snagged on trivia or fuss over cranks like Mr. Lane.
Truly Catholic, Apostolic Christianity is quite simple…even if we all struggle to to some degree to actually live it.
NQP says: In theory, the idea of distinct “races” as something which is part and parcel of one’s biology seems sound, but in the real world that idea seems to break down. I believe that history bears this out.”
The evidence of your own eyes (or are they “your own lying eyes”?) shows that this is not true. There are differences all around us – differences between Europeans, differences between Africans, differences between Asians, which manifest themselves in obviously different cultures. I rather like the differences – the Satanic communists and their Useful Idiots do not.
I wonder why you are afraid of truth? I imagine that you did not like that I said statistics support AlphonsusJr’s opinion on average black intelligence. Well, the same statistics show that the average Jewish IQ is higher than the average European IQ. I’m European but this statistic neither upsets nor offends me because the truth is neither good nor bad, it is simply what it is. These statistics don’t mean that *all* Jews are cleverer than all Europeans, and they don’t mean that *all* Europeans are cleverer than all black people. To say that all black people are stupid is stupid in itself but to say that there are no differences between peoples is equally unintelligent and ridiculously emotional.
I guess that you didn’t bother to watch the Candace Owens vlog (I suppose that she doesn’t fit the fashionable bleeeding heart narrative). Interesting that AlphonsusJr, whose prejudices are excessive, did. Think about that.
Who wrote that and when?
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Melanie. Excellent post. John Lane is, of course, not actually a sedevacantist (how could he be? He has a pope – himself!). The fact that Mr Verrecchio holds him up as an exemplar of sedevacantism makes me question just how much of an Honest Joe he is himself. I really like his blog, though!
Have you tried the Novus Ordo Watch website? That’s real sedevacantism.
Whether or not one is Catholic *is* the big picture. One cannot be Catholic while following a false Church.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15
“No, I am a Catholic, if I have an IQ of 50 I can still be a Catholic…”
Exactly, it isn’t a complicated religion and was never meant to be. Please do check out NOW. It is full of interesting information, and practically every question on this subject has been asked and answered there.
anna mack wrote: “One cannot be Catholic while following a false Church.”
I agree.
But the question we face now is what actually makes one a member of the church- overly rigid and rigorous adherence to “structure for structure’s sake” even when that structure is killing Tradition and the faith which comes from it….or faithfulness to Jesus (which means BEING faithful in ones deed and word and not merely “thinking” it) by way of Apostolic Tradition even when the institutions fail.
As far as I can see, God’s Self-revelation in Jesus as recorded in that Tradition coupled with the natural law we discover by reason both supersedes and is the true foundation of any man-made institutional ecclesiastical structure.
Union with Jesus is far more, infinitely more important indeed, than simply union with some made-made structure/institution or some man who is designated “pope”. Structures and institutions can degenerate and fall apart. Jesus, on the other hand, is God made Man and reveals His Father to us.
I know this all sounds a bit anarchic, but as I said in a previous comment, which is preferable and more important: structure for structure’s sake even when said structure destroys that which it is meant to preserve, protect and pass on, or faith in (and thereby union with) Jesus above an beyond apparent “structure”?
anna mack wrote: “I guess that you didn’t bother to watch the Candace Owens vlog…”
I’d actually seen it before you posted a link to it. I concur with her.
“…o say that there are no differences between peoples is equally unintelligent and ridiculously emotional…”
No one here is questioning whether there are certain differences between people or peoples per se.
The real question I ask is what are the causes for these certain differences: ‘first nature” or “second nature”. Some are obviously first nature: genetic and phenotypical differences. Others are more or less econd nature: environment, experience, nature.
It’s quite complex, and therefore I’m quite skeptical of approaching the question with a ham-fisted racial ideology.
“nature” should read “nurture”
I wrote: “It’s quite complex, and therefore I’m quite skeptical of approaching the question with a ham-fisted racial ideology.”
I’d like to add a note about ideology in general. This is from a recent article on Zero Hedge: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/our-wile-e-coyote-economy-nothing-financial-engineering
While the larger context of it is unrelated to the matter at hand here, it is expressed well and offers something to think about re ideology in general:
“We humans don’t have the brain power to figure out the cause and effect of everything we do.
So, we create stories, shorthand rules of thumb that allow us, based on our previous observations, to predict how the world works.
When the predictive power of one of our stories fail, humans, being emotional rather than rational creatures, will bend over backward to make excuses for the story rather than telling ourselves that, in constructing the story, we ourselves were wrong.
Consistency bias is blindingly powerful.”
I’d like to add a note about ideology in general. This is from a recent article on Zero Hedge: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/our-wile-e-coyote-economy-nothing-financial-engineering
While the larger context of it is unrelated to the matter at hand here, it is expressed well and offers something to think about re ideology in general:
“We humans don’t have the brain power to figure out the cause and effect of everything we do [in other words, our knowledge is always imperfect -NQP]
So, we create stories, shorthand rules of thumb that allow us, based on our previous observations, to predict how the world works.
When the predictive power of one of our stories fail, humans, being emotional rather than rational creatures, will bend over backward to make excuses for the story rather than telling ourselves that, in constructing the story, we ourselves were wrong.
Consistency bias is blindingly powerful.”
Israel Cohen, 1912. See footnote at end of video.
NQP, nature is what allows nurture to make its impact – or, indeed, *not* make an impact.
Your final sentence was somewhat yawn-worthy. Sixth form sociology stuff. I’m glad that you have enough independence of thought to have listened to Candace Owens, though.
Thanks. Didn’t see the footnotes.
anna mack wrote: “Your final sentence was somewhat yawn-worthy. Sixth form sociology stuff.”
What if facts do not fit the racial ideology one has? What then?
Which is more real and true? The ideas one has? Or the reality upon which we as humans form our ideas?
Nobis…..Why are you promoting heresy here? Your comments absolutely fill every comment box. This is akacatholic and you don’t believe in the Catholic Church. Yet, everyone chit chats with you as if you are just another Catholic. The Catholic Church is the one institution that does not degenerate or fall apart because it is the only one divinely instituted by Jesus Christ. I do not want to have any interactions with you because you so clearly promote these heresies so frequently but I kind of feel that this error should be addressed. I think everyone knows this already but there it is. Your should stop. Heresy is a very grave sin.
A word about racial ideology compared to a Christian anthropology of mankind as “rational animals”:
If extends a racial ideology to the metaphysical part of mankind- that certain “races” are metaphysically better than others- what are the ramifications within the political and social arenas?
In other words, if one subscribes to the notion that certain “races” have different and therefore “higher” and “lower” spiritual souls (i.e. intellect and will) than others, it would seem to leave a door wide open for all manner of things…mostly negative.
Since a Christian anthropology entails that intellect and the will are essential to being human- “rational animals”- it would follow that all other differences, while real and there, are not essential to one’s human-ness. Otherwise one might as well say that if I were to lose a foot in an accident that it would render me into something non-human. Or that someone born with Down’s Syndrome is non-human as well.
Racial ideologies can have very limited….extremely limited…usefulness in the political and social realms. But when they run amok and go too far- by positing that different people or peoples are metaphysically different from each other on the basis of physical attributes- all hell can break loose: Dachau, chattel slavery, genocide…and by logical extension legalized abortion.
“…it is the only one divinely instituted by Jesus Christ…”
Indeed Jesus did, but he left it in our hands.
Therefore much, and indeed most, of the institutional structure is a matter of human expression, culture custom rather than divine institution/inspiration.
Therefore, the structure is only as good as the members who constitute it. That is my point, and it is a timely one I believe considering what is happening with that structure currently- it is promulgating an anti-tradition, an anti-faith and a religion of man.
Time to get back to the drawing board of Apostolic Tradition and the natural law. That is what will save the institutional church, I believe. Not proof-texting papal magisterium and theological speculations.
I disagree. I don’t think it could possibly be more obvious that it is time to elect a Pope. That’s it. Time for a conclave. And Anna Mack, NOW is awesome. That guy has done the Catholic Church a great service in sounding the alarm that we have been deceived and that is good, really good. What I do see amongst the sedevacantist Catholics is that they have created a term for those who seek a Pope, instead of a sedevacantist priest, that is meant to shut them down as efficiently as calling someone an antisemite does. They would call me a crazy “conclavist” because I believe we need to elect a Pope. That’s insane. Everyone seems to have set up a little chapel somewhere whether it be SSPX or an independent priest and they’re like hey we’re all set. Pope? Shrug, eye roll, ye of little faith, God will provide. Let’s discuss for a moment controlled opposition. With Jorge on the docket the New Order knew it would be obvious something was way out of kilter here, what better way to cut off our legs than be the first guy out there to say- Oh yeah yeah you guys are right, not only is this thug not a Pope but the deception was unleashed upon us way back in 1958. Yes folks let me show how it was done. And this is what we need to do guys…nothing. Luckily I know a priest and here is his number. God speed.- You know a priest my eye. What is wrong with Catholics today? We need to know the Pope not just a priest. Ahistoric, please. I know some history Nobis….History tells me that all sorts of people play Catholic and you know Catholic because Catholic is attached to the Pope. AND another trumped up attack on the very idea of holding a conclave to elect a Pope (imagine ATTACKING the VERY IDEA of electing a Pope) is the many goofy as heck conclaves that have taken place as if because there have been all sorts of goofy attempts to elect a Pope the entire idea of electing a Pope is now considered asinine goofy nonsense. I am so tired of being lied to and manipulated. I just want a Pope, that’s it. I have confidence he’ll make sure I have the Sacraments from a Catholic Priest promptly. Let’s elect a Pope, it’s not goofy it is what we are supposed to do.
NQP, what utter rot. People with Down’s Syndrome (to use your example) are not less valuable to a Christian than people who have no disabilities. Different isn’t about being better or worse, it’s just about being different.
Once again, you ignore any point that doesn’t fit your narrative by descending into general ramblings (you’ll like Mr Verrecchio’s talks with John Lane, I promise you), and now you’re playing the racist card (always the trump card, of course). I’m afraid that AlphonsusJr has your general measure, although I do wish that he would employ more Christian language.
Melanie, I don’t generally care to interact with him on matters of *the Faith*, since, as you say, he doesn’t hold it. The chitchat on this thread has been about something else entirely.
anna mack wrote: “ Different isn’t about being better or worse, it’s just about being different.”
That is my point.
Racial ideologies, however, tend extend these differences far beyond anything either real or rational.
Melanie, I don’t think you’ll find many sedevacantists who think that we don’t need a pope (again, John Lane is *not* a sedevacantist) but a pope cannot come from the Novus Ordo. It is not the Catholic Church and its hierarchs are all heretics. Conclaves in the Novus Ordo get you a pope for the Novus Ordo – to whit, the Jorge of Babylon and his ilk.
I cannot see how a pope can come from anywhere but among the sedevacantist clergy (the SSPX are schismatic NOites, not Catholics). Unfortunately, the likes of “Pope Michael” have muddied the waters and made them afraid to take a stand. I suspect that this will change as the old guard dies out and the younger men come to fore. There is also the possibility that we may be in the End Times, and that there will not be another pope before everything is wrapped up.
Well, one would have to take the sedevacantist position (ie. believe the Seat is vacant) before they would/could be part of a conclave for a pope anyway. Or maybe when Bergoglio finally kicks the bucket/retires (hopefully soon after the other non-pope dies), that will be the window of opportunity for all traditional clergy to finally agree to put other differences aside and meet in a conclave of their own.
Melanie wrote: “…Catholic is attached to the Pope.”
Not fundamentally.
Rather being a Catholic Christian is fundamentally “attached”- to use your word -to having reasoned, lived-out belief in God’s Self-revelation in Jesus based upon Apostolic Tradition coupled with living a life in line with the natural law.
The Pope is a just a man. A very important man, no doubt. But a man nonetheless. And I for would like to see an institutional church and a pope which/who consistently does what Jesus desired for it/him to do: preserve, protect and transmit Apostolic Tradition.
But IMO it’s going to be a hard road until that day comes. Very hard indeed. The problems we face go so much deeper and much, much farther back in time than most people seem realize. Would that it were as simple as “electing the right guy pope”. I do wish it were that simple.
You are so anathema.
I’m the only one who has consistently condemned this likely sodomite for his wretched heresy. The cucks here prefer to remain silent in the face of NQP’s diabolical drivel.
I believe the “pivotal moment” was Vatican 2 and the new mass. The Faith has always been attacked. But in the 60s it became the “church” attacking the Faith. Without the Church, Western Civilization is doomed. President Trump and “conservatives” can slow the pace of the destruction but they lack the moral ideology to reverse the trend of the progressives. Democracy is a god that has failed. Read Hans-Hermann Hoppe.
Melanie, NQP is at heart a modernist. He sows doubts whenever he speaks. Never clarifying, always confusing. Never affirming yet never denying. Always searching, never finding. The Pope is the rule of faith and is protected by the Holy Ghost when he teaches on faith or morals, not only when he is defining. That is what the Church teaches about the Papacy. That is not what NQP believes about the Papacy.
Tom A. wrote: “The Pope is the rule of faith…”
No. Apostolic Tradition is the rule of faith. That was and is the original understanding of the faithful from the beginning.
I hope that that is clear and affirmative enough for you.
NQP, I don’t have a racial ideology. I don’t have any kind of ideology, actually (unless one counts Catholicism, which I don’t); I’m just engaged by individual truths.
Unlike the SJWs (among which you clearly number yourself) all my ideas don’t come from the same place, so ideologies hold no interest for me.
AlphonsusJr, I think he mostly talks drivel; I just don’t care to indulge in name-calling. That doesn’t make me, or anyone else who doesn’t indulge in name-calling, “cucks”.
Perfectly put, Tom A. Democracy is the curse of civilisation.
“…I don’t have a racial ideology…”
That’s fine. I believe you.
Whether you do or not isn’t what important here, though. Nor is whether I do or not, or whether AlphonsusJr or anyone else who happens to write a comment here does or not.
The point is that racial ideologies….just like any other ideology in general…have limited scope and therefore practical usages. No ideology can give an ultimate, final and metaphysical explanation and understanding of any or all reality. That is because while we can know things to a degree, our knowledge is always limited by the fact that none of us are God.
That is, in a word, commonsense. Or to put into more philosophical terminology: it is moderate realism. And I would argue that this philosophy is the most compatible with the Christian Catholic faith.
correction- “…limited practical usages…”
The likely sodomite and wretched heretic NQP is indeed a gamma sperg viper and whitewashed tomb. Sad!
No. Without it, there’s no Athens, no Pericles, no Socrates, no Plato, no Aristotle, thus no Thomistic synthesis, etc. etc. etc. In short, no Western Civilization.
The key to a successful democracy is the quality of the people composing it. A population of degenerate scum will produce filth and chaos, as we see today. Multiple American Founders stated that our republic was made only for a moral and religious people. Otherwise, it dies, as we see.
Import a new people, get a new country. America is not and never has been “an idea,” as pitiful cucks and their Shekelsteinowitzberg puppet masters would have us believe. It’s always been a people, and as stated in the Preamble, it was made for “our posterity”—OUR—and none other.
Feral blacks and Antifa white ethnomasochists are the shock troops, the proxy warriors, of Shekelsteinowitzberg. A fatal mistake was made in allowing large numbers of the Shekelsteinowitzberg clan into our country.
Multiculturalism REQUIRES tyranny. Actually what we now have is anarcho-tyranny. See:
Anarcho-Tyranny—Where Multiculturalism Leads
https://www.unz.com/sfrancis/anarcho-tyranny-where-multiculturalism-leads/
NQP, so glad to know that you believe me. That’s a real weight off my mind.
Since you’re clearly not Catholic, why are you concerned about what is compatible with Catholicism?
I’ve already told you that I’m not interested in ideologies, so I’m not quite sure why you are continuing to address your thoughts on them to me.
But the Greeks never intended the vast majority of the populous to be part of their democracy. What they had was not democracy as we understand it today. Democracy as we understand it today is a curse.
I agree that it’s difficult to have an ordered society without significant homogeneity. Different people with different ideas and desires can rarely work together.
AlphonsusJr wrote: “America is not and never has been “an idea”…[I]t’s always been a people.”
That’s a rather ahistorical surmise on your part.
And the arbiter of Tradition is the Pope.
What we have in America is not a democracy. It is more like an oligarchy.
“…arbiter…”
Define that word, if you will.
Yes.
I’d argue that it is more of an oligarchical-technocratic-financial gangster rule. Calling it “totalitarianism” sounds too legit. “Gangsterism” is better.
And I’d argue that our current President is very much a gangster, very much an oligarch, and very much- above all- a demagogue in the classic Greek sense of the term who cares for little else but his own esteem and his own glory at the expense of any one who challenges him…despite his appeal to the “demotic”.
“…in the 60s it became the “church” attacking the Faith…”
I agree with you. And I believe that it was then and is a continuing reality into this present day.
That is why Apostolic Tradition is and can only be the ultimate basis for faith in Jesus. Not a pope or a larger institution.
“Democracy as we understand it today is a curse.“
I agree with this. That is because most notions of democracy which are out there today are socialist ones or libertarian ones.
Socialist notions of democracy are just as out of touch with reality as libertarian notions of it are.
I believe, all at once however, that individual people should not be inexorably locked into any sort of immobile caste or class system, even if such system is more or less line with the natural law.
I would argue, furthermore:
-that here in the USA the libertarian sort of democracy is the norm in theory and actual life among the privileged and elite.
-that the uglier, socialist form of democracy is prevailing reality among “the rest of us”:
Democracy perpetuates the lie that everyone is fit to rule, which is patent nonsense. I frankly prefer rigidity to anarchy.
NQP, your frequent use of the subjunctive mood makes you even more of a limp-wristed pifter. It’s to be used judiciously.
AlphonsusJr – Okay, I just have to have a giggle at that 😉
Melanie: “WTH? If that guy Lane had only a New Order church to go get his sacraments from he would find a billion words to justify why he was going to do that.”
I am convinced that the only mass he wouldn’t attend is a non una cum mass offered by any of Bishop Sanborn’s or SGG priests.
Exactly 2Vermont, all of these traditional groups are engaged in this pissing contest and none of them have a rock to stand on. The only thing any of them should be doing is electing a Pope and it’s the one thing they all become demure little kittens on. Oh we’re the best, we’re the only licit Mass in town oh you guys’ Bishop was insane, yours was in schism, yours is invalid, mine is incorrupt, my Bishop was a GENIUS, yours is stupid and so are you. They can let me know when they have elected a Pope. That is where I will stand.
“The only thing any of them should be doing is electing a Pope and it’s the one thing they all become demure little kittens on.”
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That’s because they’ve already tried that. Do you have any idea how many antipopes sedevacantism has produces? Some have been elected by “conclaves” and others have claimed to have been appointed pope directly by Heaven. Here’s a list of the one’s I’m aware of, but there’s probably many more.
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Pope Michael (David Bawden). Elected by a conclave of six, including himself and his parents, in 1990. Reigned as Pope for 20 years as a layman, before being ordained and consecrated a bishop by a notorious heretic of the “Old Catholic” Church.
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Pope Gregory XVII (Clemente Domínguez y Gómez). Elected by St. Peter and Paul and crown by his “Cardinals” in 1978.
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Pope Peter II (Maurce Archieri). Allegedly appointed Pope by the Holy Ghost in 1995.
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Pope Peter II (David Cam, “the little Pebble”). This thrice married layman claims to have been appointed as a future Pope by Heaven, but was sentenced to before assuming the Pontificate for aggregated sexual assault on two 15 year old girls, who, he claims, were among the 84 mystical wives he was given by the Blessed Mother.
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Pope Gregory XVII (Clemente Domínguez y Gómez). Elected by St. Peter and Paul and crown by his “Cardinals” in 1978. Founder of the Palmarian sect.
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Pope Peter II (Manuel Alonso Corral). Elected Pope in 2005 following the death of Antipope Gregory XVII. Served as head of the Palmarian sect until his death in 2006.
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Pope Gregory XVIII (Sergio Hernández Martinez). Elected Pope in 2006 after the death of Antipope Peter II. Served as head of the Palmarian sect until 2016, when resigning from office, declared that the Palmarian church was a hoax, and moved in with his girlfriend.
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Pope Peter III (Joseph Odermatt). Elected Pope by the Palmarian sect in 2016, following the resignation of Antipope Gregory XVIII.
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Pope Leo XIV (Oscar Michaelli). Elected Pope by 34 laymen in 2006, as head of the True Remnant Church in Exist (TRCIE) sect. Served as Antipope for a year before dying and receiving his eternal reward.
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Pope Innocent XIV (Juan Bautista Bonneti). Elected in 2007 to succeed Antipope Leo XIV, as head of the TRCIE. Resigned from office three months later.
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Pope Alexander VI (Alejandro Tomás Greico). Elected Pope in 2008 to succeed Leo XVI as head of the TRCIE. He eventually resigned from office and closed down the church.
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Pope Linus II (Victor Von Pentz). Attended an SSPX seminary in the 1980’s and was elected Pope by a group of sedevacantists in 1994. Soon thereafter his followers tried to enter the Lateran Basilica in Rome, but were hindered by the police. He eventually abandoned his claims to the papacy and how works at an office supply company in the UK.
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Pope Pius XIII (Lucian Pulvermacher). Elected Pope by a pretended conclave in 1998 and reigned as Antipope until his death in 2009.
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Pope Clement XIV (Michal Collin). The founder of “Order of the Mother of God” (later changed to Apostles of Infinite Love), Mr. Collin had the privilege of being personally ordained a Bishop by Jesus Christ himself in 1936 (secretly of course), before being appointed Pope by the Blessed Mother fourteen years later.
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Pope Gregory XVII (Jean-Gaston Tremblay). Appointed by Heaven in 1968 as successor of Antipope Clement XIV. For the next 40 years, “Tremblay was the subject of numerous police investigations into charges of kidnapping, illegal detention and child abuse,” and “served six months in prison in 1977 for defying an order to hand over the boy and his sister to the authorities.” He died in 2011.
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Pope Gregor XVIII (Michel Lavallée). Elected Pope in 2012 to succeed Tremblay and reigns over the “Order of the Mother of God” to this day.
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Pope Hadrian VII (Francis Schuckardt). Founder of the CMRI sect. In 1971, Schuckardt was ordained a priest and then consecrated a bishop the very next day, by a married bishop of the heretical Old Catholic Church. In 1984, he split from the CMRI sect that he founded, when his soon to be successor, Dennis Chicoine, announced from the pulpit that Schuckardt had been sexually molesting his male seminarians and abusing drugs. This was followed by a messy legal battle. Schuckardt went on to found another sedevacantist sect, which was raided by “the California Sheriff’s Department SWAT team, with support from the California Highway Patrol” in 1987, presumably on tips they received from Chochine. Schuckardt pled guilty to drug charges but avoided prison. He died in 2006. For the rest of the sordid story, see the Wikipedia article for Francis Schuckardt.
Look, you can give example upon example including sodomy and pederasty, drunken lascivious behavior in every period of time to make the Catholic Church look foolish and you can point out a laundry list of false claimants to the Papacy, made possible by a terrible hoax we Catholics have fallen for. This scandalizes me, as well, but I stand by the fact that the Catholic Church needs Her head and that occurs through a conclave of Bishops. We’re going to leave the seat of Peter empty because we’re embarrassed by other people’s buffoonery? Maybe we will, I don’t know, but it would be good if we had a Pope.
“the Catholic Church needs Her head and that occurs through a conclave of Bishops.”
The Catholic Church has her head. Sedevacantist heretics are without a head, because sedevacantists are outside the Church.
Former, we are most assuredly not in the church that teaches the heresies of vatican 2 and says the protestant new mass. No sedevacantist will disagree with you on that. So keep your Francis and good luck with him.
Tom A, there are no heresies in Vatican II, but there are many in sedevacantism.
Former, what I believe is most certainly a heresy to what you believe and what you believe is most assuredly a heresy to what I believe. Woe to those who are so foolish to believe that what you and I believe can exist in the same Church.
The SSPX has the only tenable position. God is not going to hold it against us to commemorate Jorge at the Canon. We are in a holding position waiting for Our Lady’s Triumph.
The main thing is having Bishops with apostolic succession. The SSPX has four of them. The rest of you are out of the boat treading water. Drowning is just a matter of time for you all.
I’d love to know what makes you think that God is not going to hold it against you. You think that God loves those who pretend not to see heresy? Who pretend that the Catholic Church, His Church can be against Herself? God doesn’t mind the blatant big fat obvious lie? God’s up there going just get your sacraments come hell or high water, tell any lie and believe any lie just go in that building get your sacraments and have coffee with the others just don’t leave the club. Hold onto the lie that an apostate is the Pope, I don’t mind lies as long as you get your sacraments. Even though I AM the TRUTH. You people at SSPX have a very loose relationship with the truth and that’s inherently bad.
Canon Law probably states the procedure to have the Cardinals denounce the Pope. But the Cardinals are heretics too. So, you can’t make it up as you go along. Only God can fix it!
In the mean time, you have to nourish your soul with the Sacraments. They require a Bishop for jurisdiction. THE SSPX IS YOUR ONLY HOPE.
The SSPX is in schism with what they claim is the Catholic Church. They are schismatic NOites, disobedient to the NOite pope. Do you even understand *anything* about your faith? It doesn’t sound like it.
Maybe you too should trudge through those interviews with John Lane. You would learn that as a perfect society, which the Church is, we always have the means of electing a Pope even if there are no Cardinals, which there aren’t. I hope that you ask your Bishops that before they offer you Priests they provide the Church with a Pope.
You people are so screwed up.
I hereby repent of any uncharitable speech of mine in this thread and elsewhere in the comments here. This is, however, not in the slightest a renunciation of any of the truths I’ve spoken; e.g., about today’s pitiful, most pitiful white ethnomasochism.
“The truly spiritual man is known by the kindness of his speech and still more by the kindness of his silence. Let us remember that every word we utter or every insinuation we make to the detriment of our neighbor is an injury done to Christ.”
-Fr. M. Eugene Boylan, This Tremendous Lover
But what about all those fiery saints?
While I certain disagree with FormerSede’s statement about the Second Vatican Council, I think his enumeration of the more recent attempts to elect a pope serves as proof positive that simply electing a pope is NOT the solution to the problems we face.
I think it also demonstrates that hyperpapalism- even if it is not utterly amok and insane sort like “Pope Michael” and the rest -is a serious problem among would-be Catholics.
Obedience to ecclesiastical authority- drilled into Roman Catholics for generations -has turned into a monster.
Formalism in ecclesiastical structure and liturgy, outlandish clinging to supposed locutions and prophecies about future events, and the aforementioned hyperpapalism has largely supplanted reasoned belief (faith) among the more “conservative” sorts of Catholics.
And with all due respect to all the “traditionalists” who read and post comments here, highly rigid and anachronistic “traditionalism” is no more the way forward than the gnostic neo-Modernism of the V2/Novus Ordo thing. Put simply: there is “Tradition”, and then there are “traditions”.
IMO the church has to return to, rediscover and express a much purer form of the Apostolic Tradition. One which has been cleaned of all the rot of neo-Platonism, subtle gnostic tendencies, Augustinian notions of sin and grace, and outdated, ahistorical and outright incorrect readings and understandings of the Jewish scriptures, the Gospels, and the rest of the Christian scriptures. That, to my mind, is the way forward.
A pope and a council or a series of both could begin to bring this about, I believe. But as far as I can see, no prelates, clergy, theologians or even lay people within the Church with any significant voice have put everything together and grasp the depth and nature of the crisis the church is in. So I don’t know the future brings- because it hasn’t happened yet :).
The church is in a very bad way. But that doesn’t mean Jesus has let us down. It just means that the church which He founded and left to our care is…well…extremely human.
Rushintuit. Yep, my thoughts confirmed (lol).
AlphonususJr, that is very true. One of the best, St Thomas More, used some pretty harsh language. It has its place but is more effective when used judiciously.
I’m glad that you haven’t wimped out on basic principles, though. The last thing this blog needs is more NQP-style bleeding heart loviness 😉
NQP, you do realize that you sound like a modernist advocating Apostolic Tradition (a concept you leave undefined).
I wrote: “highly rigid and anachronistic ‘traditionalism’ is no more the way forward than the gnostic neo-Modernism of the V2/Novus Ordo thing. Put simply: there is ‘Tradition’, and then there are ‘traditions’.”
Interestingly and incidentally, just today OnePeterFive has an article by Peter Kwasniewski posted which is kind of in the same vein of this remark I made yesterday. He writes:
In their laudable desire to resist and overcome the goofiness of recent decades, sometimes traditionalists will adopt opinions that go too far in the opposite direction, thus missing the Catholic truth.
https://onepeterfive.com/we-sacrifice/
Tom A. wrote: “…Apostolic Tradition (a concept you leave undefined).”
As far as defining it is concerned, I suggest simply rereading the four Gospels and the Book of Acts for starters.
And read them not as holy tomes delivered from on high or part of a larger corpus which has been cobbled together into what we call “The Bible”, but as you would read any book which you have just discovered and have never read them before. Catholics have layers and layers of reverence for their scriptures built up over generations and centuries. While this is not a bad thing in and of itself, it can hinder understanding and make for a lack of context. To borrow a phrase from a logical Vulcan character in the fictional “Star Trek” universe “reverence tends to fill up a room”.
Chesterton too put it well how to approach Christianity and thereby its scriptures in “The Everlasting Man”: “..set the Catholic Church thousands of miles away in strange skies of morning and judge it as impartially as a Chinese pagoda.”
I can call you a fruit loop because you are a fruit loop. I can call chili Mack a quack because the Mack is a quack. This is the most screwed up blog on the inter-webs!
Good job, Louie! I hope the few bucks you make off of this train wreck puts a juicy rib eye on your plate every day. And your pee smells like asparagus.
Rush,
If you honestly think akaCatholic is the most screwed up blog on the Internet, then your experience of the Internet is truly miniscule. But I’d wager this is just hyperbole on your part (because even a casual stroll through certain places on 4chan or tumblr would unveil wretchedness beyond anything you’ve seen here), made out of frustration because no one else here believes the SSPX are the saviors of Catholicism to the degree that you do (after all, how could anyone be the savior of a religion when they make a living disobeying the person they claim is the head of said religion? It’s absolutely illogical).
“And your pee smells like asparagus.”
Now that’s just childish. And unnecessary.
At least AlphonsusJr had the conviction to apologize for his uncharitable demeanor (which was really the biggest beef I had with him on a personal level, seeing as how the substance of what he’s argued about – regarding the current state of Western civilization – is serious enough to merit consideration, even if I disagree with some of his conclusions); will you be similarly contrite?
ASM to Rushintuit: “But I’d wager this is just hyperbole on your part ….made out of frustration because no one else here believes the SSPX are the saviors of Catholicism to the degree that you do (after all, how could anyone be the savior of a religion when they make a living disobeying the person they claim is the head of said religion? It’s absolutely illogical).”
Nailed it.
Dear Simpleton,
The SSPX honors the office, not the man! Canon Law is still in force. Eternal Rome is still there, despite the temporal take over. I see the objection you all have about praying for a pope that is a type of “The anti-Christ”. It’s all good because the SSPX has non Modernist Bishops. Please try to understand what is happening here.
“The SSPX honors the office, not the man!”
Nonsense. Claiming that they honor the office when they refuse obedience to the man who validly (in their eyes) holds that office means that they don’t honor the office at all. The office of the Roman Pontiff has far more consequences than, say, the office of the American President.
Is Francis the Pope or not?
Jorge is obviously an anti-Pope, but there are no Catholic Cardinals to pass judgement on him. WE ARE IN A HOLDING PATTERN. Stop making judgements you are not capable of making.
Find an SSPX chapel, say your Rosary every day, and quit playing Cardinal Know It All. You are going to Hell if you persist in your current direction!
“Jorge is obviously an anti-Pope, but there are no Catholic Cardinals to pass judgement on him. WE ARE IN A HOLDING PATTERN. Stop making judgements you are not capable of making.”
This entire statement is hypocritical and self-contradictory.
-You judge that Francis is an anti-pope.
-You judge that there are no Catholic Cardinals.
-In the same breath, you tell me not to make any judgements that I am incapable of making.
If it is clear that Francis is a non-Catholic (based on his public actions and magisterial teachings), it logically follows that he cannot be the Pope of the Catholic Church. As such, it is utterly schizophrenic to continue to treat him as if he were the Pope as the SSPX does, notwithstanding their subjectively schismatic behavior in repeatedly disobeying and contradicting the teaching and judgments of the man they **publicly profess** is the Roman Pontiff.
Rushintocommentbeforeacquiringanyknowledge, you are absurd and really need to learn something about the Catholic faith before pontificating on it. The chilli Mack thing made me laugh, though
It’s really amazing that you people fail to see that Rushintuit is actually anti-SSPX, and that his/her posts are meant to make SSPX supporters look absurd.
No, AlphonsusJr, SSPX people really do talk like that – as do all other R&Rers. R&Rers can’t help but look absurd – because R&Rers are absurd.
Taken to its logical conclusions, the “recognize and resist” position taken by much of the FSSPX, lay people like Michael Matt, Chris Ferrara, John Salza and Robert Siscoe, and their allies at The Fatima Center simply makes no sense. How can a “Vicar of Christ” undermine Christ Himself?
I don’t hold it all against people like Messrs. Matt and the rest personally. I just see it as a sign that they haven’t grappled with the true nature of crisis the institutional church is in: that, as it turns out, the Roman Church is actually defectible and its Pope is fallible and that therefore we have to fall back on Apostolic Tradition and the natural law in order to move forward.
Sedevacantism or the semi-sedevacantism (my term) of the SSPV makes “more” sense, even if it doesn’t get to the heart of the matter.
I base the term “semi-sedevacantism” on what Fr. William Jenkins of the SSPV has said in so many words about sedevacantism over the years.
As far as true “restistance” is concerned, Fr. Jenkins has stated on video that in his entire priestly life (ordained by Lefebvre in June 1978) that he has never once commemorated either Paul IV, JPII, Benedict, or Bergoglio at the una cum in the Canon. I believe he said he has never commemorated the local prelate either, but I won’t say that for certain until I dig up the video. I don’t know where to look for it and simply don’t have the time ATM.
Anyway, that is true resistance. Not the incoherent “R&R” of the others.
I think it’s a matter of true versus false virtue.
I’m concerned about you Louie. You have posted a few posts recently that seem dark and bitter. Between going off on Taylor Marshall for setting up the Pachamama raid, not saying he was behind it and seemingly profiting off of “the first scoop” reporting (what was the point of that post other then being peevish and fault finding? how many other trad men set something like that up? so he didn’t say he was involved and pretended it was all news to him? He shouldn’t have pretended but if it was he who set it up, good on him.) to now this turn to cursing our enemies. Yes, I think we could all benefit from including ALL the Psalms in the Breviary…but we also need to remember the words of Our Lord Himself when He elevated that previous teaching to a whole new level:
Matthew 5: 43-48 (the Sermon on the Mount)
“You have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy. But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you: That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust. For if you love them that love you, what reward shall you have? do not even the publicans this? And if you salute your brethren only, what do you more? do not also the heathens this? 48Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.”
James 3: 8-12
“But the tongue no man can tame, an unquiet evil, full of deadly poison. By it we bless God and the Father: and by it we curse men who are made after the likeness of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth, out of the same hole, sweet and bitter water? Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear grapes? Or the vine, figs? So neither can the salt water yield sweet.”
As horrible as what the enemies of Christ are doing we CANNOT curse them. Our Lord commanded that Himself. We are called to LOVE our enemies, will their good and salvation and take whatever hell they unleash on us. Read the book “Cultivating Virtue: Self Mastery with the Saints”. The Saints taught this…it’s what converted people and gave God glory. It’s EASY and FLESHY to curse and discard…it’s a whole lot more difficult to detach, forgive, will their good, speak the truth in kindness, bear wrongs patiently, forgive offenses willingly etc. Not to say you have to be “buddies” with people still rejecting Christ…you don’t have to trust them or spend lots of time with them. But it they are blood family, there is a REASON God put YOU in their life. You may be the ONLY light they have and God might be working behind the scenes without your knowledge for their conversion. So don’t stop, don’t give up…I’m glad the people in my life who helped ME to God didn’t give up when I was lost for many years. Their faithfulness and putting up with me was a sign of great love for God and me:+) God bless them for it:+)
Don’t give up, Louie:+) Maybe the Sede infection has wrought this on you…it would me if so much hope and light were sucked out of my world b/c of the Sede position…a very hopeless view and a denial of the love and sacrificial nature of Our Lord. If He endured hours on the cross for us I think He can handle the horrid Novus Ordo:+) God bless~
I think it is kind of masochistic. But that’s not yet saying anything. Masochism is about attention and belonging. People who feel totally abandoned and dispossessed prefer pain, guilt and humiliation over being left alone.
At the root of the problem is the worship of the self. But since the self alone is by definition nothing, it will soon seek to worship just anyone or anything to fill that emptiness. But then it runs into another problem. It takes effort to worship something that is actually worth it. To worship the self takes no effort. And to worship something untrue, hostile and unworthy is positively like dousing flames with gasoline.
‘Perversion’ literally means “to turn around” or “to turn into its opposite”. Mentally, the rewards and punishments have switched places. Any sane self-love now feels like a punishment, any humiliation feels like a reward. Healthy self-love is also dangerous and leaves you open for an attack. But once you learn to enjoy being humiliated you’re safe, because nobody will attempt to take that away.
I’d liken this movement to masochistic porn, where porn is not about sex but about a canned and simulated and therefore dead encounter between two people. And masochism is neither about sex nor violence, but about simulated knowing and acceptance.
“Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.”
MMC, start your own blog if you insist on being so long winded. I certainly have no desire to read more than two or three sentences from the likes of you!
So wimpy, MMC. So unattractive. So cucky. Can this really be what’s called for today?
As big as the lie was that Dr. Marshall was pushing onto us, we should not recklessly misrepresent those who criticize him. After that we should not go off on a tangent by giving a sermon about something completely unrelated, because someone might mistake it for a false accusation. Or even multiple false accusations.
Louie has been awfully quiet lately. Perhaps he is digesting Vigano’s latest statements and will post an entry on that soon.
Why should LV get involved with any of this? All he has to do is write one paragraph and call it, Is the Pope Catholic? Then he sits back and watches the nickels roll in as you groupies go at each other. I wish Freud was around to get multiple belly laughs out of you jokers!
Rushintutalkinglikeanidiotyetagain, and yet you continue to “go at” other posters on here yourself, presumably adding to his nickels…
Maybe I am clueless about how comboxes work, but I didn’t think any money was made on the comments made in them.
It’s obvious, LV has more dollars than sense!
The most effective way to resist authority is to deligitimize the authority. Something the R&R clowns have not yet grasped.
If there’s cash involved, it will be related to advertising.
Louis is in lockdown.
I am seriously concerned about his disappearance. I don’t remember him ever taking this long for a new blog entry. If it was an unhappiness with the combox, I would think he’d just remove the ability to comment as he has done in the past.
I’d bet his absence is due to one of two things: ill health or discouragement due to being a mostly unheard voice crying in the wilderness.
Hopefully Mr. V is realizing that all his cant about “The Sovereign Rights of Christ The King” coupled with hope in some “Triumph” of the “Immaculate Heart of Mary” is not where it’s at.
Rather, “where it’s at” is Apostolic Tradition and the natural law.
Consider that sort of an open letter, Mr. V.
The scumbag heretic NQP just can’t help injecting his filth. Sick.
Right. Apostolic Tradition and natural law are “filth”. Sure. You’re right.
Do you have any idea of what a complete rage-filled, melodramatic and otherwise emotionally compromised dumbshit you have come across on this platform over the course of time?
In the name of all manly Christian charity, go buy a fucking clue and get a grip.
Pitiful. Just plain pitiful.
Yes, indeed. We must suffer rejection by most, including family members, if we are to refuse to compromise on the truths of Faith and morals. If we remain faithful to God, we will be hated by most in this time of Great Apostasy. Dear God have mercy on us, sustain us in our sufferings.
People have been re-educated into absurdity upon absurdity through mass propaganda via NWO anti-Christ controlled “education”. “Media”. “medicine”, general means of information and communication, mostly via digital technology. Parents, if you love your children, protect them from the terrible lies of the unitary “education system”, “social Media”, etc. When God is denied and His Holy Laws thrown out, Reason is lost. More evident than ever in the mass compliance with unlawful dictatorship on foot of the Covid 19 ruse, just the latest in a litany. Motus in Fine Velocior. Faith is gone, therefore reason too. First the Faith was outlawed, then the morals, now even acknowledgement of truths all can see. The Emperor has no clothes but all in unison cry out in admiration of his fine robes.
2 These. And therefore God gave them the operation to believe lying.
We are in the age of mass deceit, the age of Satan reaching his zenith on Earth as the masses bow to his minions who have great temporal power, as never before, because of their cooperation with the devil.
In each moment, let us seek the graces necessary to remain in Faith, Hope and Charity.
Viva Cristo Rey!
Amen.
The blessings of Almighty God on you both as we suffer and try to make good that suffering in this most evil of times. God protect ye from all evil and give ye the grace to persevere in Faith, hope and Charity as we are surrounded by the devil and his human followers. Your sister in Christ Jesus, Lynda.
With John XXIII, the heretics ruled from the top, and so were able to bring in the evil, false Council and the new, false religion. Those who folow a new, false religion are responsible for their (at least) acquiescence in it. There are many mitigating factors for many individuals but one is called every day to take up one’s cross and in every new moment we are called to stand against evil, most especially in false and evil religion no matter that it comes from those pretending to run the institutions of the Catholic Church. Viva Cristo Rey!
True Catholics, who have not attained the holiness of sainthood, are generally in suffering terrible stress in living through the mass Apostasy, heresies, lies. Seek ye the Truth. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life …
We must be patient with those who are honestly trying to be faithful to God and the Faith, who will not to sin; we are under great stress. Only the truly good are able for the “powers and principalities”. I ask God’s forgiveness for my weakness in hope, charity that has me fighting with the desire to escape this evil world before God calls me. Lord, have mercy.
Yes. the sspx official positions have become absurd, arbitrary. Keep tuned in for the latest position as to what is forever and always true. Chaos and volatility and self-referential arrogance by a few deciding what holds true from day to day, moment to moment. Mirroring the temporal arbitrary dictatorship to which they join.
True Catholics, who have not attained the holiness of sainthood, are generally in suffering terrible stress in living through the mass Apostasy, heresies, lies. Seek ye the Truth. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life …
We must be patient with those who are honestly trying to be faithful to God and the Faith, who will not to sin; we are under great stress. Only the truly good are able for the “powers and principalities”. I ask God’s forgiveness for my weakness in hope, charity that has me fighting with the desire to escape this evil world before God calls me. Lord, have mercy.
Moral adults can validly vote on many things regarding the ordering of their community or nation. But those things are limited. Objective moral truths cannot be voted on. The common and personal good cannot be interfered with. Our dictators would brought us to unprecedented unlawful, unjust, dictatorship via their “democratic systems”. Self-referential, all objective truth denied, suppressed so that the Godless powerful few who control the temporal world determine what is true and false, everything inverted. The worst evils deemed to be rights, made “mandatory”; the truth and the truthspeaker outlawed. Their “laws” are not valid and are good ab initio for not being in conformity with God’s laws, written in our Nature, with Right Reason.
The masses will do whatever their evil masters tell them, they care not for eternal truth or reason – mask their faces by absurd dictat, take toxic material into their bodies, call men, women, sodomy, marriage. Take the mark of the Beast. Lord. Jesus, protect us from all evil, from Satan and all the demons.
“…..their laws are void ah initial … “
” ab initio”. Phone (their digital technocracy) keeps changing what I type. God bless all fellow Catholics and those who love and obey God and want to know and follow the truth as God ordained it. May we meet in Heaven, with God’s help.
Dear Lynda,
We share your hopes for fellow Catholics and all who will come to know the truth while there is still time. Lately, we’re been encouraged by the writings of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, (many are available on Lifesite news) such as the response he most recently made to a letter of support from Archbishop Luigi Negri, -with words that touch all true Catholic hearts,
in which he wrote:
Most Reverend Excellency,
I read your words with great emotion; they were truly touching for me. It is a consolation to see that Your Excellency has grasped the heart of the problem with that acumen and lucidity that have always distinguished your judgment.
The present time, especially for those who have a supernatural perspective, brings us back to the most basic things of life: to the simplicity of the Good and the horror of Evil, to the necessity of choosing which side we are on as we fight our daily battles, both small and large. There are those who see this as a banalization, as if the clarity of the Gospel was no longer capable of giving satisfying answers to a complex and articulate humanity. And yet, while some of our brother bishops are concerned almost obsessively with inclusiveness and green theology, hoping for the New World Order and a “Common Home” for the Abrahamic religions, the people and priests have an ever greater sense of being distant from their Pastors – fortunately, not all of them – right at the moment of epochal confrontation.
It’s true: time is slipping through our hands, Your Excellency, and as it does, the sandcastles of almost initiatory rhetoric are crumbling, sandcastles built by those who have wanted to base their own success on the fleetingness of time and the fragility of the contingent. There is something inexorable at work in what is happening today: the ephemeral mirages that were supposedly going to replace eternal truths are now revealing, in the harsh light of reality, their artificial and false squalor, their ontological and inexorable falsity. We discover that we are children, according to the words of Our Lord; we recognize almost instinctively those who are good and those who are evil, reward and punishment, merit and fault. But can we consider the serenity of the child resting on its mother’s breast, the strong trust of the child who grips his father’s hand, to be banal?
How many fatuous words have been spoken to us, how many useless sedatives have been delivered to us, thinking that the Eternal Word of the Father was inadequate, that it was necessary to update it in order to make it more seductive to the deaf ears of the world! Yet it would have been enough to simply make that Word our own, and we would have needed nothing else. If up until now we have allowed ourselves to be confused by the din of this present age, we can now abandon ourselves with filial trust and allow ourselves to be led, because we recognize the voice of the Divine Shepherd, and we follow Him where He wishes to lead us – even when others, who should speak, are silent.
Our poverty is not an obstacle, but rather a help in these situations: the more humble we are, the more the skill of the Artist shines through us, holding us as an instrument in His skilled hands, like the pen with which the Scribe wisely writes the story.
I ask Your Excellency to pray that all of us, who in the fullness of the Priesthood are called by the Lord not servants but friends, may succeed in making ourselves docile instruments of His Grace, rediscovering the divine simplicity of the Faith that He has commanded us to preach to all the nations. Everything else of our own that we would add through pride is a pathetic tinsel, which we must now learn to get rid of if we do not wish it to be done by the flames of Purgatory, in which our few gold flakes will be purified of their slag in order to make us worthy of the beatific vision. May we not waste the precious days in which illness and old age give us the opportunity to expiate our faults and the faults of others: they are blessed days which we can offer to the Majesty of God for the Church and her Ministers.
Most Dear Excellency, receive this expression of my profound gratitude for your inspired words, with the assurance that I remember you in the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar. And pray for me.
Nunc dimittis servum Tuum,
Domine, secundum verbum Tuum in pace…
+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop
17 June 2020
We hope you find some consolation and hope as we do in the words of this Archbishop, which set off our “Catholic sense” every time.
God Bless you.
I think that Louie has all but abandoned his combox as I see that he has spent his time continuing conversations with the SSPXer John Lane the last few weeks.
He’s seems to have abandoned this whole blog.
oops…that is what I meant.