During his General Audience of Wednesday, October 28, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, otherwise known as Pope Francis, delivered what may rightly be considered a concise “Profession of Faith” for the One-World Religion of Apostate Rome; let us call it the Conciliar Creed of the Church of Man.
Certainly, Francis is not the first bishop in white to embrace the Church of Man that emerged after Vatican Council II and its anthropocentric tenets, but he is by far its boldest evangelist to date.
As such, he is rather plainspoken (at least for those with ears to hear) about his desire to lure naïve souls away from Eternal Rome and the Holy Mother who nurtures her children in heavenly hope, in exchange for the suffocating confines of an earthbound religion that offers little more than fleeting good feelings born of pure sentimentalism.
At this, let us examine this Conciliar Creed of the Church of Man through the eyes of a so-called “traditionalist,” aka Catholic.
Citing the 50th anniversary of Nostra Aetate – the Declaration on the Relation of the Catholic Church to Non-Christian Religions of Vatican II – Francis opened his address by saying:
The Second Vatican Council was an extraordinary time of reflection, dialogue and prayer which aimed to renew the gaze of the Catholic Church on herself and on the world. A reading of the signs of the times in view of an update oriented by a twofold faithfulness: faithfulness to the ecclesial tradition and faithfulness to the history of the men and women of our time.
One notes with gratitude the clarity with which Francis speaks of the purpose for which the Council was called; to renew the gaze of the Catholic Church on herself and on the world by way of an update.
First, let it be said that the Church has never been called to gaze upon herself and the world; rather, she is called to gaze upon Christ as she cooperates with Him in redeeming the world!
That said, Francis does speak some truth.
Unlike the previous twenty ecumenical councils of the Church, Vatican II had nothing whatsoever to do with her actual mission; answering doctrinal questions of profound importance, much less addressing any sort of ecclesial crisis. Rather, this Council was called in order to “update” the Church according to the exigencies of modern men.
This update, according to Francis, was carried out, not in faithfulness to the Church’s Founder and Head, Christ the King, and the mission that He gave her, but rather to “the men and women of our time.”
Oh, sure, he paid lip service to the “ecclesial tradition,” but let us be clear:
Authentic ecclesial tradition is always and everywhere ordered toward the Christianization of the all the world for the salvation of souls; i.e., baptizing all nations, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever that Jesus commanded.
As Francis went on to make clear, however, this is not the mission of the Church of Man over which he lords; rather, it is to promote the One-World Religion of Apostate Rome.
Drawing from Nostra Aetate, Francis speaks of the following points as “always timely”:
The growing interdependence of peoples … the human search for the meaning of life, of suffering, of death, questions which always accompany our journey … religions as the search for God or of the Absolute, within our various ethnicities and cultures.
As if to dispense with any questions that may logically arise concerning the dangerous errors that permeate all of the non-Catholic religions, he spoke of “the benevolent and attentive gaze of the Church” on these religions, repeating after the Council, “she rejects nothing that is beautiful and true in them.”
Coming now to one of the main tenets of the Conciliar Creed of the Church of Man, he cites Nostra Aetate 3, saying:
The Church regards with esteem the believers of all religions, appreciating their spiritual and moral commitment.
How much more clear can it be made?
The primary focus of Apostate Rome and the Church of Man is man himself; it is man whom this church lavishes with esteem!
By contrast, Holy Mother Church looks to Christ the King as her primary focus. As such, her “benevolent and attentive gaze,” and her esteem is always and everywhere directed toward Him, and not, as Francis proudly professes on behalf of the Church of Man, toward all of the world’s religions without distinction.
For the true follower of Christ; i.e., the citizen of Eternal Rome, there can be no “appreciation” expressed for the “spiritual and moral commitment” of men who reject Our Blessed Lord. To do so would not only be a grave offense against Christ, which should be our first concern, but it would also consign those who are so “committed” to death. How dare we!
Francis continues:
The Church, open to dialogue with all, is at the same time faithful to the truths in which she believes, beginning with the truth that the salvation offered to everyone has its origin in Jesus, the One Saviour, and that the Holy Spirit is at work, as a font of peace and love.
Don’t be lulled to sleep by his misuse of familiar phrases that were stolen from Catholic tradition; rather, focus on the central message that is being conveyed, which is essentially this:
Jesus Christ and the Holy Catholic Church, His Mystical Body, is not so much the solitary way of salvation apart from which no one is saved; rather, salvation simply has its “origins” in Christ.
This is a key distinction; one that allows those who dwell in the Church of Man to assert that salvation is attainable for those who reject the Catholic faith in favor of dwelling within in a religious community distinctly outside of the Church.
This much is made perfectly plain the Decree on Ecumenism of Vatican II, Unitatis Redintegratio, which states of “the separated Churches and Communities,” meaning – schismatic and heretical communities far too numerous to number:
For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.
Once again, do not be lulled into complacency by the traditional sounding qualifier, “which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.”
These communities have no efficacy with respect to salvation as communities.
Even so, the message of the Council has been made perfectly plain in the behavior of churchmen even to the highest places ever since; the Catholic Church is now understood as just one community of salvation among the many to which one might belong.
The Captains of Newchurch feel justified in maintaining this falsehood because they are willing to go only so far as to say, as Francis proclaimed, that salvation has its origins in Jesus, which is rather different than professing that salvation is attainable only in Christ Jesus, and therefore, His Mystical Body here present on earth, the Church.
The modernists are very subtle indeed, but it is in reducing Our Lord to the “origin of salvation” that they convince themselves and others that the way of salvation is not confined to His Mystical body.
In any case, Francis is not content simply to speak only of the baptized; rather, he suggests that all men are destined for the same end as he cites, “the common origin and the common destiny of humanity.”
Do unrepentant sinners, martyrs and saints share in a common destiny?
Certainly not!
That said, in order to truly understand the mind of Francis and the Conciliar Creed of the Church of Man that he professes with candor, we must remain mindful of the fact that those who dwell in the Church of Man are not preoccupied with the salvation of souls; that is a Catholic concern that they no longer share.
You see, the One-World Religion of Apostate Rome views salvation as a given; as such, it is preoccupied with mere temporal concerns.
Let us listen once more to Francis:
The Council, with the Declaration Nostra Aetate, has indicated the way: “yes” to rediscovering Christianity’s Jewish roots; “no” to every form of anti-Semitism and blame for every wrong, discrimination and persecution deriving from it. Knowledge, respect and esteem for one another are the way. Indeed, if this applies in a particular way to relations with Jews, it likewise applies to relationships with other religions as well.
Alas, there is so much insight conveyed in even the smallest of words for those who labor to scrutinize all things through a Catholic lens!
Notice that Francis proclaims “knowledge, respect and esteem” for all religions, even those that plainly reject Christ, as the way.
My friends, inadvertently or not, he is stating very plainly what every Catholic worthy of the name has long since recognized – for Apostate Rome, Jesus Christ is no longer the Way that all who wish to come to the Father must follow! He has been unceremoniously replaced by earthbound efforts aimed at glorifying man!
Those who truly believe that Jesus Christ is the Way cannot but withhold their “respect and esteem” from those religions that reject Him!
Once again, I feel compelled to reiterate that the Church of Man is not preoccupied with the mission that Christ gave to His Church. Francis makes this entirely plain when he says:
The dialogue that we need [among all of the world’s religions] cannot but be open and respectful, and thus prove fruitful. Mutual respect is the condition and, at the same time, the aim of interreligious dialogue: respecting others’ right to life, to physical integrity, to fundamental freedoms, namely freedom of conscience, of thought, of expression and of religion.
What is the aim?
It certainly isn’t the salvation of souls; it is neither the attainment of Truth nor Life, but simply human “respect” ordered upon a false “right” to “freedom of conscience, of thought, of expression and of religion.”
Continuing, Pope Francis expounds upon the earthbound mission of the Church of Man in some detail, saying:
The world, looking to us believers, exhorts us to cooperate amongst ourselves and with the men and women of good will who profess no religion, asking us for effective responses regarding numerous issues: peace, hunger, the poverty that afflicts millions of people, the environmental crisis, violence, especially that committed in the name of religion, corruption, moral decay, the crisis of the family, of the economy, of finance, and especially of hope.
For Francis, “believers” are not only Christians, but Jews and Muslims, as well as others who claim just any sort of “religion.” This much is made clear as he continued:
We believers have no recipe for these problems, but we have one great resource: prayer. We believers pray. We must pray. Prayer is our treasure, from which we draw according to our respective traditions, to request the gifts that humanity longs for.
Be not fooled by the call to prayer!
As the abomination that took place in the Vatican gardens in June of 2014 at Francis’ behest makes plain, all prayer is not righteous. (For those who may have forgotten, a Muslim cleric chanted a prayer from the Qur’an calling on Allah to grant victory over the infidels.)
On the one hand, one may be moved to anger at these words.
How can this man, adored throughout much of the world as the “People’s Pope,” declare that the Church has “no recipe” for the world’s problems?
It’s an outrage!
On the other hand, it must be said that Francis is being perfectly honest, and refreshingly so, if only we are willing to listen.
He is telling us what he believes. He is reciting, not the faith of the Church, but rather the Conciliar Creed of the Church of Man. Furthermore, he is telling us the truth – the church that he wishes to build over and against the Church of Christ has no cure for the human condition!
The most Francis can offer, therefore, is an invitation to join him in focusing on man, his supposed “dignity” and his “rights;” making of man an idol, and his temporal condition the overriding concern of one’s life.
It is an invitation quite unlike that of Saint Peter (and his faithful successors) who exhorted the Lord’s enemies:
Do penance: and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38).
With every passing day, it seems, it is becoming more and more difficult for men of good will and moderate intelligence to deny that Rome has indeed fallen into apostasy, and the leader of the pack at this moment is Francis.
In conclusion, I offer a prediction based upon the following words spoken by Francis during his audience:
There have been so many events, initiatives, institutional or personal relationships with the non-Christian religions in these last 50 years, that it is difficult to recall them all. A particularly meaningful event was the meeting in Assisi on 27 October 1986. It was willed and sponsored by St John Paul II … The flame, lit in Assisi, has spread throughout the world and is a permanent sign of hope.
Before I get to the obvious, notice how the flame of the Holy Ghost that came upon the Church at Pentecost, the true and inextinguishable sign of “hope” for mankind as imparted at Baptism, has been corrupted in service to the One-World Religion of Apostate Rome.
It is deceptive and disgusting.
Now, for the prediction…
There can be no doubt that Francis will soon announce his intentions to convene Assisi IV, and the abominations that one might expect to take place there will be nothing short of stunning.
While some may see this as bad news, I tend to see it as good news in that it will be yet another occasion for all to witness the solitary blessing that this disastrous pontificate has to offer; namely, incontrovertible evidence attesting to both the magnitude of the crisis in the Church of today, and the undeniable fact that among men there is no greater danger to souls walking the earth at this moment than one Jorge Mario Bergoglio.
CATHOLIC MOTHERHOOD
Oh, to be Buddhist
Sought after most wooedist
By men who excuse
Much that’s lewd.
I’ve only a broodist
Ten souls who aren’t Buddhist
Once again, booed, screwed
And tattooed!!
LUKE 10:16 He that heareth you, heareth me; and he that despiseth you, despiseth me; and he that despiseth me, despiseth him that sent me.
17And the seventy-two returned with joy, saying: Lord, the devils also are subject to us in thy name. 18And he said to them: I saw Satan like lightening falling from heaven. 19Behold, I have given you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions, and upon all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall hurt you. 20But yet rejoice not in this, that spirits are subject unto you; but rejoice in this, that your names are written in heaven.
21In that same hour, he rejoiced in the Holy Ghost, and said: I confess to thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hidden these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them to little ones. Yea, Father, for so it hath seemed good in thy sight. 22All things are delivered to me by my Father; and no one knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and to whom the Son will reveal him.
ACTS 4:10 Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God hath raised from the dead, even by him this man standeth here before you whole. 11This is the stone which was rejected by you the builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved
MATTHEW 28:16 And the eleven disciples went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17And seeing them they adored: but some doubted. 18And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. 19Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.
It’s time to say my Rosary that the Counciliar Church may return to it’s Traditions, Doctrines and Dogmas. I’m sick at heart for what’s coming out of Rome today and I can no longer deal with it, other than to pray, pray, pray and pray.
I’m sure there won’t be any “Good News” out of Rome until the Pope together with his Bishops [in concert] Consecrate Russia to Our Holy Mother’s Immaculate Heart and then reveals the entire contents of the 3rd Secret of Fatima.
When I hear this has happened I’ll tune in again to the news from Rome. Until then… God bless all of you and keep you safe and sound under the mantle of Our Lady.
Francis is a blessing in that more eyes are being opened to the ongoing apostasy.
On the other hand, I was driving in my car a while ago trying to listen to “catholic” radio. After about ten minutes of listening to some round table group trying to spin the Synod’s final document into something resembling the Faith, I had to shut it off.
That the “conservatives” do such mental gymnastics to try to make everything seem just fine and dandy is sickening. Have they no fear of God?
These “gymnastics” that you refer to are a huge problem. The last thing that we need at this point is for seemingly good people to keep trying to justify these heretics/apostates. There is nothing about vatican 2 or of Rome (anymore) that is Catholic. People need to wake up and come to the logical conclusion that so many are afraid to admit. I wont sit here and say that that last logical step is an easy one to make because it surely isnt….but as long as it is not made then credence is continuously being lent to the validity of the heretics/apostates in question.
Rich. The blindness, boiled-frogness or just plain invinicble ignorance of the Novus Ordite seems to have found the secret of perpetual motion.
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The photo posted above is yet another peice of absolute proof of the antichrist nature of the Vatican II Novus Ordo Institution. How long will the ‘Recognise and Resist’ continue to pretend they resist anything while they ‘recognise’ an apostate institution and its heresiarchs as belonging to the Body of Christ? Given the diabolibal ‘perpetual motion’ of faithlessness in the Novus Ordo and all those who recognise her as belonging to Christ, perpetually, I’d guess.
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Do penance: and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38). http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.co.nz/2015/11/a-laver-of-regeneration-no-more.html?m=1
I’ve long been anticipating an Assisi IV. After the relative success of the heretical group at the synod, I believe Francis is now looking to his next battle front. Much like Obama after passing Obamacare, Francis has already been floating the next round of trial balloons to advance Communion to protestants (vis the USCCB). Now that Communion for the divorced is almost in the bag (still awaiting his post synod letter), his next logical front is opening it to non Catholics, which could be sold as a “way to foster peace and unity in a world so divided and wounded… Blah blah blah”. Assisi IV and communion for everyone, just in time for the 2017 “celebrations” of the Reformation…
Check out the background, “faiths of the world unite”? That is Satanic. How can light converse with darkness?
How can Catholics of good will still refer to this heretical degenerate as a pope? Crazy times indeed.
AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH : CALL DOWN FIRE FROM HEAVEN TO DESTROY THEM ??
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Reflections from a first Holy Communion
“Johannes and Tristan, the Blessed Sacrament, which you will receive today for the first time, is a miracle. St. Thomas Aquinas said that it is the greatest of all the miracles of Christ our Lord. But for such a great miracle it is not very amazing to look at and to taste. All we see is a little white disk, all we taste is a little baked flour.
Why is the greatest of all of Christ’s miracles so uninteresting on the outside? Why doesn’t Christ do something that everyone can see, something really impressive? Christ is all-powerful, all-mighty. What would you do if you were all-mighty?
If I had been given infinite power at your age, I would probably have flown around through the air, with a long cape trailing behind me, and have killed all the “bad guys.” Why didn’t our Lord do something like that?
Two of his apostles wanted him to do something like that. They were two brothers James and John, and they were called the “sons of thunder”— maybe because they liked loud noises. Once Jesus was traveling in in an area called Samaria and James and John went into a village to ask the Samaritans whether Jesus could stay there. But the Samaritans said no, because Jesus was going to the temple in Jerusalem, and they did not believe in the temple.
So James and John went and told Jesus that the Samaritans would not let Him stay there. And they asked Him should we call down fire from heaven to destroy them? What do you think? Did Jesus do it? Did He call down fire from heaven to destroy those unbelieving Samaritans? [Johannes and Tristan shake their heads]. You are right; He didn’t do it.
Would you have done it? [More head shaking] Ah, you are wise. At your age I would have done it. I would have sent fire from heaven down on those people. Probably even now, even though I am four times older then you, I would still do it.
But our Lord Jesus did not do it. He didn’t want to destroy the Samaritans; He wanted to change them from the inside. In today’s reading we heard how after Jesus had died and risen from the dead, one of his disciples (Philip the deacon) went to the Samaritans, and this time they believed.
When the Apostles hear about this they send Peter with one of the “sons of thunder,” namely John to the Samaritans. John who before had wanted to call down fire to destroy the Samaritans now calls down another kind of fire, the Holy Spirit, to change them from the inside.”
A First Holy Communion Sermon
https://sancrucensis.wordpress.com/page/12/
Rich asks, ‘how can Catholics of good will’…because they are not Catholics…they are Novus Ordites – they believe they are more Catholic than Pius X, than Pius XII, than Pope Leo XIII, than St Jerome, than St Athanasius, than Pope Paul IV, Pius V, Pius IX, than St Robert Bellarmine, certainly more Catholic than Francis de Sales (poor deluded outdated Protestant converter), even more Catholic than St. Alphonsus Liguori: “If ever a pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he would at once fall from the pontificate”; supremely more Catholic than St Leo the Great, unerringly more Catholic than Benedict XV, Innocent, Clement; much more Catholic than Our Lady Hammer of Heretics, and, indeed, more Catholic than Christ…that’s how the Novus Ordite of ‘goodwill’ fuels the the beast = because they are utterly blind to Catholic and Church.
In others words, they are bereft of a sense of the faith for they have no Catholic memory, which belongs to the Body of Christ, else they would rather stand on nails than call Bergoglio Christ’s Vicar, and the Novus Ordo, Christ’s authority. What they ‘sense’ is nothing more than layers of Protestantism. The theft of the name ‘Catholic’ is natural for the pick pocket Novus Ordite.
“It is necessary for humanity to achieve unity through plurality, to learn to come together in the one Church, even while presenting a plurality of ways of thinking and acting, of cultures and civilizations. Wouldn’t such a way of looking at things be, in a certain sense, more consonant with the wisdom of God, with His goodness and providence?” (The words of John Paul II -Crossing the Threshold of Hope)
I sometimes wonder if Bergoglio took the name Francis not in honor of St. Francis of Assisi, but to highlight his intention to continue the “work” of JPII and his inter-religious meetings at Assisi.
Because of JPII, the Vicar of Christ is on the same level as representatives of other “religions”. He is just “one of the guys”. One World Religion on its way–or has it already arrived?
I appreciate this most current posting of yours Louie. Excellent!
Louie writes: “Francis proclaimed, that salvation has its origins in Jesus, which is rather different than professing that salvation is attainable only in Christ Jesus”.
In his Angelus address of June 23, 2013, Bergoglio also said the following (all emphases below added):
“[T]here are many people, Christians and non-Christians alike, who ‘lose their lives’ for truth. And Christ said ‘I am the truth’, therefore whoever serves the truth serves Christ”.
Of course, one of the methods man uses to discover truth is the historical method. Bergoglio’s predecessor writes that “to believe that, as man, [Jesus] truly was God…exceeds the scope of the historical method“ (Jesus of Nazareth, p.xxiii, emphasis added). Bergoglio himself, meanwhile, publicly and “magisterially” teaches a prayer that consciously excludes the divinity of Christ (cf. Laudato Si’, #246).
It seems clear to me, therefore, that in the above quote Bergoglio uses “Christ” as a mere synonym for truth, but generally he considers that it is the latter that must be sought, independently of the historical Christ.
For Bergoglio, truth is the ultimate arbiter of the divinity of Christ, which is OK as far as it goes. As I see it, however, Bergoglio does not just acknowledge the fact that there is no consensus on the divinity of Christ – he does not consider it his obligation as “pope” to correct that fact.
Most of us soi distant traditionalists do not accept that Pope Paul VI and the bishops at Vatican Two were there holiest men ever to exist in the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church but Pope Paul VI not only believed he was the holiest Catholic ever, he thought the Bishops of Vatican Two were the Holiest and most in love with Jesus of al Catholics who have ever lived.
No, ABS is not being a wise ass. That is what he said publicly in a speech during the council….
Text of Pope Paul VI’s Address Closing Council’s Second Session
by Jim Lackey
[Following is the council press office translation of the Latin address delivered Dec. 4, 1963 by Pope Paul VI at the closing meeting of the second session of the ecumenical council.]
We have now reached the end of the second session of this great ecumenical council.
You have already been long absent from your Sees, in which the sacred ministry requires your presence, your guidance and your zealous pastoral labors. Your work here has been heavy, and assiduous and protracted by reason of the ceremonies, studies and meetings of this period of the council…
Before concluding our labors, it would be fitting to sum up and to consider together the course of the session and its results. But to do that would make this address too long, nor indeed could it be done adequately since so many aspects of this council belong to the domain of grace and the inner kingdom of the soul into which it is not always easy to enter, and since so many of the council’s results have not yet come to maturity, but are as grains of wheat cast into the furrows, awaiting their effective and fruitful development, which will be granted only in the future through new mysterious manifestations of the divine goodness</B (Bergoglio surprises)…
Nevertheless, lest we seem to leave this holy council hall without gratitude for the blessings of God, from whom this council has here taken its origin, we will remind ourselves above all that some of the goals that the council set itself to achieve have already been at least partially reached.
The Church wished to grow in her consciousness and understanding of herself. See how, on the very level of her pastors and teachers, she has begun a profound meditation on that mystery from which she draws her origin and form. The meditation is not finished, but the very difficulty of concluding it reminds us of the depth and breadth of this doctrine, and stimulates each of us to strive to understand and to express the doctrine in a way which, on the one hand, cannot fail to lead our minds, and certainly those of the faithful who are attentively following our labors, to Christ Himself from whom all gifts come to us and to whom we wish to return all, “reconciling everything in Him” (Col. 1, 20)…
On the other hand, our efforts cannot fail to increase both our happiness in being personally called to form part of this holy Mystical Body of Christ, and our mutual charity, the principle and law of the life of the Church…
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Let us rejoice, my brothers, for when was the Church ever so aware of herself, so in love with Christ, so blessed, so united, so willing to imitate Him, so ready to fulfill His mission? *….
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Has any prior Pope ever publicly expressed such unrestrained egoistic enthusiasm?
These self-righteous words are absolutely embarrassing to read considering the soaring holy geniuses – Athanasius, Ambrose, Augustine, Aquinas (That’s just the As) – that preceded the Fathers of this pathetic pastoral council; and considering their inflated sense of self and the destruction they wrought, it is crystal clear that they were not the best and the brightest; rather, they were the worst and most wretched.
And of you don’t think the Bishop of Rome – Our Pope and Our Cross – doesn’t hold his own self in similar high esteem, then you don’t know modern Prelates.
Bib Dylan has his Rolling Thunder Review Tour and our rock star Bishop of Rome has a permanent Tour- The Humility and Apology Tour in which he castigates Traditionalists and Holy Mass, denigrates the faithful Catholics of the past, and apologies to our enemies as he turns a blind eye to the true nature of evil. The Bishop of Rome is a destroyer; he is not building upon that which came prior to the crummy council; no he is its ineluctable conclusion of a revolution within the form of Catholicism. He is a revolutionary man
Lord have mercy on us for we now have the leaders a Just God has delivered unto us a punishment for our sins
So full of pride and making a new Church better than all that went before, to which no reference is due. Full of Gnosticism and esotericism. A radical departure in substance and form from Holy Tradition. The references to Our Lord seem solely to say that He is the source of the Council’s new ideas, ignoring Revelation whilst insisting that the Council has somehow mystically itself become a source of new and necessary knowledge for the betterment of the Church and the world.
And similarly, a passage where Jesus witholds Divine punishment:
MATTHEW 26:51And behold one of them that were with Jesus, stretching forth his hand, drew out his sword: and striking the servant of the high priest, cut off his ear. 52Then Jesus saith to him: Put up again thy sword into its place: for all that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53Thinkest thou that I cannot ask my Father, and he will give me presently more than twelve legions of angels? 54How then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that so it must be done?
Catholics do not want to destroy persons, but call them to repent – change their hearts. When we see the Vatican II false religion failing to convert people to the True faith, we are justified in our righteous anger. This is our scourging – when we share in the suffering of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Remember the purpose you have undertaken, and keep in mind the image of the Crucified. Even though you may have walked for many years on the pathway to God, you may well be ashamed if, with the image of Christ before you, you do not try to make yourself still more like Him.
Thomas a Kempis
Imitation of Christ
Book 1
Chapter 25
The great secret of sanctity comes down to becoming more and more like Him, the lovable and only Model.
St Josemaria Escriva
Who is Escriva’s ‘Him’? EM. Is it Wojtyla’s? It must be, since Wojtyla made Escriva a Novus Ordo ‘saint’.
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A fifteenth century Catholic theologian, Nicholas of Cusa said, ‘Likewise, it is a superstition when worship is paid to another cult rather than to God. It is, in fact, idolatry.’ Nicholas would know that Wojtyla’s worship paid to cults rather than God, made Wojtyla a public unrepentant idolator, unparalleled; and that the VII and Novus Ordo promulgated religious indifference is what ‘permits’ this idolatry.
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Falsehood is Novus Ordo ‘sainthood’. No Pope or pauper can add to or take away from the Sacred Deposit of Faith, Her doctrine, discipline and worship. VII and its heresiarch (who ‘canonized the much quoted on this site, Escriva) defected from the Faith when they added religious indifference, subtracted the Social Kingship of Christ, subtracted the Traditional Mass, added the Novus Ordo service, subtracted the Roman Rites, added the Novus Ordo rites, etc. etc.
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The Catholic Church did not make Constantinethe Great a saint. Why? Because of his continued ‘respect’ for idolatry. The Novus Ordo Counterfeit made Wojtyla a ‘saint’…why?
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PS. Escriva belonged to the Vatican II Novus Ordo Institution, within which he created a financial institution called Opus Dei. He is no Catholic Saint. He publicly denied the need for a Catholic Baptism to a Jewish girl:
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http://www.josemariaescriva.info/article/opus-dei-founder-escriva-chile-father-i-am-jewish
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http://www.traditioninaction.org/bev/110bev06-29-2009.htm
Another damning report about how Pope Francis thinks, speaks and acts. We have more than enough sufficient grounds for an inquisition by a council.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/popes-gay-friend-claims-activists-should-credit-francis-for-steps-to-advanc
Johnno,
Where on earth would you possibly find enough solid Churchmen in today’s Church to form an inquisition?
The only thing today’s Churchmen could get tough on would be essentials like “Have you done your best to reduce your carbon footprint?” and “Have you removed all intolerant thoughts from your mind?” and finally, “Are you absolutely sure you are not homophobic?”
“Where Would We Get a True Pope?” : “IF THE POST-VATICAN II popes are not true popes, how might the Church one day get a true pope again? Here are some theories: 1. Direct Divine Intervention. This scenario is found in the writings of some approved mystics. 2. The Material/Formal Thesis. This holds that should a post-Vatican II pope publicly renounce the heresies of the post-Conciliar Church, he would automatically become a true pope. 3. An Imperfect General Council. The theologian Cajetan (1469–1534) and others teach that, should the College of Cardinals become extinct, the right to elect a pope would devolve to the clergy of Rome, and then t
o the universal Church. (de Comparatione 13, 742, 745) Each of these seems to present some difficulties. But this should not be surprising, because the precise solution to an unusual problem in the Church cannot always be predicted beforehand. This can be seen from the following comment in the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia: “No canonical provisions exist regulating the authority of the College of Cardinals sede Romanâ impeditâ, i.e. in case the pope became insane, or personally a heretic; in such cases it would be necessary to consult the dictates of right reason and the teachings of history.” (“Cardinal,” CE 3:339) Moreover, an inability at present to determine exactly how another true pope would be chosen in the future does not somehow make Paul VI and his successors into true popes by default. Nor does it change what we already know: that the post-Conciliar popes promulgated errors, heresies and evil laws; that a heretic cannot be a true pope; and that promulgating evil laws is incompatible with possessing authority from Jesus Christ. To insist despite this that the post-Conciliar popes must be true popes creates an insoluble problem for the indefectibility of the Church — Christ’s representatives teach error and give evil. Whereas a long vacancy of the Holy See, as noted in Appendix 4, is not contrary to the indefectibility or the nature of the Church.” http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/TradsInfall.pdf
When you open the Holy Gospel, think that what is written there — the words and deeds of Christ — is something that you should not only know, but live. Everything, every point that is told there, has been gathered, detail by detail, for you to make it come alive in the individual circumstances of your life.
—God has called us Catholics to follow him closely. In that holy Writing you will find the Life of Jesus, but you should also find your own life.
You too, like the Apostle, will learn to ask, full of love, “Lord, what would you have me do?…” And in your soul you will hear the conclusive answer, “The Will of God!”
Take up the Gospel every day, then, and read it and live it as a definite rule. This is what the saints have done.
St Josemaria Escriva
Louie, just in case you haven’t seen this…
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http://www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/vatileaks-the-italian-connection
Please this is the second time I caught you citing from a heretic who was canonized by another heretic. Are you an Opus Dei?
EM…In the entire time of your posting on this site, you have evinced no evidence of an ability to distinguish between Catholicism and Prostetantism (in this you are in the greater company of commenters). That could change.
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The Saint who said this…“The saints feel that Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament is diffuse and communicated totally in their souls and bodies. He repairs all, modifies and vivifies; loves in the heart, hears in the mind, sees in the eyes, speaks in the tongue; does all in all, and then it is not we who live, but Jesus Christ who lives in us.”…spent his life trying to convert Protestants (yep – those people your heresiarchs have included in their body of belial) to the Catholic Faith. But your ‘church’, vilifies the mission of Saint Francis de Sales. Can you understand that Escriva and Saint Francis de Sales cannot both belong to the Body of Christ?
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St. Francis de Sales states: “…to say the Church errs is to say no less that God errs, or else that He is willing and desirous for us to err; which would be a great blasphemy.”
“Unlike the previous twenty ecumenical councils of the Church, Vatican II had nothing whatsoever to do with her actual mission; answering doctrinal questions of profound importance, much less addressing any sort of ecclesial crisis. Rather, this Council was called in order to “update” the Church according to the exigencies of modern men.”
Exactly. Other than any warmed over doctrine that may have found it’s way into the documents of Vatican II it is not part of the magisterium of the Church. The popes at the time made this explicit in speeches but it is Catholic belief that new and novel teachings, no matter how widespread at any particular time, are always “up for grabs,” or hold a possibility for error.
In order to facilitate a masonic one world religion, dogma, especially EENS, had to be suppressed and eliminate. Vatican II was a big step down this path. Modernism was manifested in liturgical changes beginning with Bugnini under Pius XII in the 50’s. Pope John, who was more conservative liturgically, got rid of Bugnini, but alas, Pope Paul VI brought him back. Pope John Paul firmed up all of the above over his long pontificate. Pope Benedict, a throwback to Pope John, brought back the traditional liturgy in his 7/7/7 motu proprio and corrected important translation errors in the Novus Ordo. Pope Francis might believe that he is the one to consolidate and finalize the revolution, but he will not. It is precisely the dogma of Papal infallibility that even if the Pope, God forbid, should earnestly desire to destroy the Church, he will not be able to succeed.
Why was the Devil’s Advocate process suspended for Escriva? Who knew what????
Each of us has his own endowment from God, one to live in this way, another in that. It is an impertinence, then, to try to find out why St. Paul was not given St. Peter’s grace, or St. Peter given St. Paul’s. There is only one answer to such questions: the Church is a garden patterned with countless flowers, so there must be a variety of sizes, colors, scents — of perfections, after all. Each has its value, its charm, its joy; while the whole vast cluster of these variations makes for beauty in its most graceful form.
St Francis de Sales
You are wrong. If vatican 2 is Catholic then its documents are SURELY part of the magisterium. It cannot be Catholic AND teach error which is precisely what you are erroneously opining.
http://mhtseminary.libsyn.com/sermon-cockle-or-the-congregation-of-heretics-by-fr-desposito