A recent video homily by “Mission Preacher for the New Evangelization,” Fr. Paul Nicholson, claiming that the Society of St. Pius X has “become protestant” is making the rounds.
The operative part of the homily begins at the roughly 3:50 mark in the video below, but here’s a partial transcript:
There are Catholics today, who are manifestly ignorant, and invincibly proud, who might, not outwardly, but inwardly suggest that the primacy of the pope and the supremacy of his jurisdiction are not essential. They say things like, “As long as we have the Latin Mass, and have the sacraments according to the old books, then we don’t need to worry about submitting to the pope.” These people duplicitously say that they can recognize the pope, but at the same time they will not submit to the pope. The SSPX is just such an organization … they have become protestant. Their Protestantism is a result of their refusing to submit to the Holy Father’s jurisdiction.
While I don’t know him very well, I have met and spoken with Fr. Nicholson in person in the past, and I’ve had the pleasure of participating in traditional Masses that he has celebrated. We also shared airtime on my friend Christine Niles’ radio program shortly after Pope Benedict announced his abdication, all of which were pleasant experiences.
Naturally, I reached out to Father for some feedback before writing this post, but he was kind enough to let me know that his travel schedule is such that it wouldn’t be possible.
So, without the benefit of his clarifications, I have to say that this latest homily isn’t his finest moment.
As most readers here know, I’m not a member of the SSPX, but I am sympathetic to their position; one with which I am fairly familiar.
For the last two years, I’ve attended their annual Angelus Press Conferences as a media guest. At both events, Bishop Fellay and any number of priests of the Society gave extensive presentations that leave little doubt as to what they hold to be true. I also had plenty of opportunities for private conversation with their clergy and lay members, and in 2012, I was able to speak with Bishop Fellay essentially one-on-one over breakfast about his thoughts on the Society’s situation.
So, when Fr. Nicholson says, “They say things like… ‘we don’t need to worry about submitting to the pope,'” I must conclude that he simply hasn’t availed himself of the opportunity to discover firsthand what they truly believe, either that or he’s engaging in some rather extreme hyperbole.
One thing I can say with certainty is that I’ve never heard such things from the Society’s leadership, nor do I have any reason to believe that they “inwardly suggest that the primacy of the pope and the supremacy of his jurisdiction are not essential.”
In my experience, the Society, and specifically their Superior General, Bishop Fellay, finds the status quo extremely painful. I think it’s fair to say that he “worries” quite a bit about the current state of affairs, the demands made on the Society, and its place in the life of the Church, even as his trust in the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary trumps all concerns.
In any event, I’m more interested in what it means to submit to the pope, as this applies to every Catholic.
I had hoped to ask Fr. Nicholson if he imagines there being any limit whatsoever to said submission. Surely he must.
In other words, if the pope asked him to sign a pledge of fidelity to a set of propositions that either oppose our Holy Catholic faith directly, or are so ambiguous as to invite grave error, in either case demonstrably doing great harm to the faithful, would he do it?
I think it’s safe to say, apart from ignorance, he would not sign such a pledge.
I can only imagine, in charity, therefore, that Fr. Nicholson is unaware of the fact that the text of Vatican II contains just such propositions (like the offensive notion in NA 4 that says that the children of the Church are one with those who deny the divinity of Christ, to name but one), and further that he must also be unaware that the canonical regularity of the SSPX is being held hostage to their pledging fidelity to just such falsehoods.
That brings me to the accusation that they are “protestant.”
To be honest, I find this difficult to take seriously. Surely Fr. Nicholson knows the difference between heresy (the state of actual protestants who deny that which must be believed with divine and catholic faith) and schism (the state of those who refuse submission to the Roman Pontiff).
Since I am fairly certain that no one can point to even one heretical position on the part of the SSPX, I suspect that he may have meant to say that they are schismatic. He would be wrong (for reasons explained here), but maybe that’s what he intended. Only he can say for certain.
So, what is the takeaway from Fr. Nicholson’s poorly chosen words?
A priest vilifying the SSPX today is like a comedian cursing before a teenaged audience; it’s not exactly thought provoking stuff, but hey, it does guarantee a standing ovation from the under-nourished choir.
If somehow this regrettable video earned Fr. Nicholson some “New Evangelization” street cred, opening the door to carrying out more missions in the many godforsaken, foot stomping, quasi-protestant parishes that dot the North American landscape, the outcome could probably be worse. He still has something to offer in that arena, provided he take the time to become more familiar with the situation at hand before commenting on the SSPX any further.
Perhaps when his schedule clears, God willing, we can have that conversation.
Protestant? Kind of like the LCWR protastent? Or maybe more like a ++O’Malley protestant? Or maybe a bishop of Rome protestant (with a red clown nose)? Which protestant could the good reverend have in mind? Inquiring minds want to know.
Why are we attacking one another? I was very disappointed in Fr. Paul Nicholson’s comments. If this is the “new evangelization” who needs it? Why would anyone want to join a church that quarrels in public? And why attack fellow Catholics while ignoring “catholics” like Cuomo and his ilk? If we must take fellow Catholics to task then the ones who want to kill pre-born babies might be a good place to start.
Me thinks, that Fr. Nicholson is a victim of the ‘diabolical disorientation’……his face is an expression of ‘hate’ not ‘humility’, not ‘sorrow’, who as a servant of God should rather ‘lament’ of this diabolical division that has come upon faithful Catholics, the loss of millions of souls……not from the outside enemy, BUT from the top down, the worst enemy WITHIN…….ever known in the whole history of the Roman Catholic Church. Unfortunately for this priest, he is promoting further division and cruel persecution of the devil……which shall go on increasing daily till the reign of Antichrist………neo-Cat…..against Catholics……Miserere!
The fact, that he is calling the SSPX Protestant, speaks volumes. He is deceived, and a deceiver……as if the holy Church is short of deceivers…….Ave Maria! The worst is that he chose to speak of this ‘heresy’ on the Holy Feast of the Wedding at Cana……….this is clearly diabolical…….’where there is no holiness…..there’s no hatred of heresy’……..NO FEAR OF GOD!
May God and His Holy Mother intervene in haste……. “Mary must shine forth more than ever in mercy, in might and in grace, in these latter times: In mercy, to bring back and lovingly receive the poor strayed sinners who shall be converted and SHALL RETURN TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (no universal salvation, as the deceivers have promoted for the last 50 years); in might, against the enemies of God, idolaters, ‘true’ schismatics, Mahometans, Jews and souls hardened in impiety (YES, they are STILL the ENEMY, same TRUTH, yesterday, today and forever)……. who shall rise in terible revolt against God to seduce all those who shall oppose them and to make them fall by promises and threats: and finally, she must shine forth in grace, in order to animate and sustain the VALIANT SOLDIERS AND FAITHFUL SERVANTS OF JESUS CHRIST, WHO SHALL BATTLE FOR HIS INTERESTS!
AND LASTLY, MARY MUST BE TERRIBLE TO THE DEVIL AND HIS CREW, WHO WILL RAISE UP CRUEL PERSECUTIONS AND WILL PUT TERRIBLE SNARES BEFORE THE FAITHFUL SERVANTS AND TRUE CHILDREN OF MARY, WHOM IT GIVES HIM MORE TROUBLE TO CONQUER THAN IT DOES TO CONQUER OTHERS!……(‘True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis De Montfort)
Poor Fr. Nicholson, obviously he has not read (to mention just one amongst many)…..”The Consecration of Russia” by John Salza and Robert Sungenis………WHAT chastisement more terrible than a hierarchy that has lost its direction!
May God Have Mercy, on us sinners!
Louie, I congratulate you on this article. You were respectful and charitable to Father Nicholson while, at the same time, proving why his perceptives regarding the SSPX are not only inaccurate, but absolutely wrong. Anyone who has ever met Bishop Fellay or heard him speak will know for certain that he does indeed worry about the direction of the Catholic Church, the Church he loves and believes in. However, his loyalty must remain with the Invisible Head, Christ Himself. He must remain steadfast to the Church’s Divine Founder while the visible head (the Pope) has lost control of the rudder. Thank you, Louie.
Thank you, Mr. V.
“There are Catholics today, who are manifestly ignorant, and invincibly proud, who might, not outwardly, but inwardly suggest that the primacy of the pope and the supremacy of his jurisdiction are not essential.”
That’s about the best description of people like Wuerl, Dolan, Schonborn, Marx, Zollitsch, Nichols, et al, I have ever seen.
Somehow I saw that video last night and was very disappointed; I went to sleep quite disturbed. Father Nicholson is a very strong Trad priest. However, I would venture to say he probably hadn’t made his First Communion yet when the Archbishop consecrated the four bishops and is somewhat of a late comer to this dilemma. Coming from a Novus Ordo seminary up in the liberal bastion of Canada, I give him tremendous credit for recognizing the value of the Latin Mass and learning how to offer it all by himself, very reverently indeed and combating all those liberals up North. But I am very grateful to Louie for explaining his misconceptions because this hard working young priest is sadly mistaken. I’m sure he will give the matter careful review. He is an honest man and has a good mother who gave him the faith; that will suffice. In the meantime, I will be praying for him and I urge everyone else on this list to do the same.
I’ve never watched any of his videos but he seemed nice enough. I have no idea why he came out with this screed, though. So I definitely will not be watching any subsequent videos (unless he apologizes/clarifies his statements). I do not currently attend a SSPX chapel but I’m keeping my options open when my archdiocese (Boston) closes the church which offers the TLM I attend.
And he is aiding and abetting the liberals up North by slurring the name of other good and holy priests.
There’s absolutely no mistake about what came out of the mouth of Fr. Nicholson, one can only wonder what is in his heart. False flattery that many Catholics erroneously give, is unfortunately, no solution to ‘error’ and blindness that has blinded even ‘good’ priests. Only God Knows who is His good priest!
How could this be possible, that with all means of communication, today of all times, where all facts, all information is out on the table for those who know how to read, write and love ‘truth’, so many are still so blind and could be still misinformed…..especially, a ‘trad’ priest? How long will ‘error’ and ‘ignorance’ be excused, especially, for those who are ‘consecrated’ to God…..while the ‘Church is mocked’ as we speak. If, you repeat a ‘lie’……over and over, you are an accomplice of deceiving others.
This persecution (only last 50 years) of the Society of Saint Pius X, of Catholic Bishops, Catholic priests, Catholic lay people, who by the grace of God keep the true faith, in spite of the enemy………remind the conciliar church, to act Catholic sometimes………..Praised Be Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Jamie said: Why are we attacking one another?
S.Armaticus answer: I don’t know.
They say that stupid is as stupid does.
Anyways…
Over at Rorate Caeli, New Catholic has a great post titled: A CALL FOR UNITY. Link here: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/01/opinion-call-for-unity.html.
If Mr. V puts text in a pledge titled “Oath against stupidity”, I would be the first to sign it. 😉
And on an aside, I find it more than coincidental that these internecine “bouts of stupidity” are occurring at a time when the TLM is advancing like the charge of the light brigade. Folks, since the persecution of the FFI began, about 30 of their Latin Masses have been canceled. Yet at this same time, I counted at least 45 new LTM sightings. Once those FFI TLM’s come back online, Francis should just declare the slaughter rule on the N.O., and put it out of its miserere. (Just say no to N.O.) Get it????
Come to think of it, maybe Mr. V needs to put up a standings table (league table-for my British mates 🙂 so that we can track all the new TLM’s popping up like daisies in the springtime. Springtime… sounds like a familiar idiom… that I just can’t place.
God bless and
Archbishop Lefebvre, ora pro nobis!
Father says, “These people refuse to submit to the Roman Pontiff”.
Father, would that be the Roman Pontiff you will see in Louie’s next posting advocating the reading of the Koran to the assembled Moslems rather than following Christ’s injunction to “Go, teach all nations: baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”?
Not impressed. You know how some parents will put on grave looks, and will fake passionate appeals, in order to scare their very young children into compliance when, in fact, these parents don’t really care about much except their own authority? Fr. N. has that look down.
I had no idea that you are sympathetic to the position of yes….protestant SSPX.
I thought you are defending the truth …which SSPX does not hold it.
In Christo Rege!
Any priest who feels the need to video his sermons and put them on Facebook needs to go on retreat. A very long retreat.
Jeff Culbreath wrote: “You know how some parents will put on grave looks, and will fake passionate appeals, in order to scare their very young children into compliance when, in fact, these parents don’t really care about much except their own authority? Fr. N. has that look down.”
God forgive you for passing judgment on a good and holy priest. You may disagree with his stance on the SSPX–but to insinuate that he doesn’t care about much except his own authority is flat out false. I know Fr. Paul quite well, and he is as far away from your accusations as one can imagine. I hope you will take back your unkind, false words.
As to why he posts his videos on YouTube, it’s because he is a missionary preacher of the New Evangelization, with permission from his bishop, and an essential part of that ministry is evangelizing through social media. But I suppose that explanation isn’t good enough for people so willing to pass judgment on this good priest’s interior disposition.
What nastiness.
Hi Christine. Nice to “see” you again. Yes, I regret posting that comment. It was nasty. Thanks for the prayers, I need them.
But Fr. Nicholson’s remarks were far more nasty, reckless, defamatory, and indeed calumnious – passing a much more severe judgment on hundreds of good and holy priests and laity. Let’s pray that God forgives him, too, shall we?
Here’s what I know. VII does not follow tradition. Authors of the documents admit that much. What I can’t figure out is how they are COMPLETELY wrong. I am going through RCIA this year, and it has taken me 5 years to get to this point. I have studied a far amount of information about the Holy Roman Catholic Church, and the year I decide to get confirmed I learn about the SSPX. To say that this has been a distraction is an understatement. Who’s right? At this point I don’t even know if my confirmation will be valid this Easter.
“A recent video homily by “Mission Preacher for the New Evangelization,” Fr. Paul Nicholson, claiming that the Society of St. Pius X has “become protestant”…”
## If so, then he knows nothing about Protestantism. I don’t speak Swahili – neither, I would imagine, does Hillary Clinton. Does ignorance of Swahili make me a Democrat Party politician ? Ridiculous.
People are Protestant if their religious outlook is Protestant, in some way at least – any group of men less Protestant, and more explicitly Catholic in doctrine, dogma, practice, and metaphysical assumptions than the SSPX would be hard to find. The Vatican is a thousand times more Protestant than the SSPX: it is JP2 & B16 who have spoken favourably of Luther, Abp Lefebvre & the SSPX who do not. The claim is absurd, and an indictment of the theological insight of those who cannot see the fallacy in this argument, but brandish it as though it were a forceful objection to the Society.
“That brings me to the accusation that they are “protestant.”
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To be honest, I find this difficult to take seriously.”
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## Only “difficult” LOL ? I find utterly it impossible to take seriously. Whatever objections to the Society there may be, that one has no force at all.
Thank you, Mr. V.
saluto January 22, 2014 4:20 am
Chuck, God bless you for following God’s grace into His Holy Church. Your baptism and confirmation will be valid, but possibly stripped down of important signs that impress the meaning upon the soul, mind and heart, not to say one’s body depending on where the priests decides to mark you with the sign of Christ with Holy Chrism. Keep going, God has you. I attend an NO church, there is no Mass of All Time for hundreds of miles, though I keep praying this will be remedied, and as a convert I learned so much about the Faith before I entered that it was a real shock to encounter, in thoughts word deeds and omissions, heretical and schismatic Catholic in the pews and at the alter. Take up the Holy Rosary and learn as much about the Faith as possible. Church Militant TV is a very good resource on the whole; read, pray, and do learn about the Tradition Latin Mass – (you can watch the daily Mass here – it also has an online missal so you can come to grips with what’s going on – visit Angelus Press for sound full faith view of Catholicsm – their blog is very good too:
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http://www.livemass.net/LiveMass/Daily.html
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Will pray for you and your fellows entering God’s Kingdom on earth over Easter.
p.s. As Louie points out first hand, the SSPX are good and holy soldiers for Christ, holding firm to the Faith which has been so denigrated by ignorant or evil shepherds for many years. They are not in ‘schism’. it’s something the vatican calls ‘canonical irregularity’.
When good shepherds go bad you don’t follow them. The Papacy is bigger than one pope, thank God, since there have been some real, so to say, less than adequate holders of the Office in it’s history.
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John Madison, in the below video, I was very glad a priest had posted his talk.
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Here’s what you do when popes lead astray:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCcV1rG714
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+J.M.J.+ Fr. Michael Rodriguez’s talk on the two greatest warriors against the devil; Our Lady of Fatima and St. Michael the Archangel, and their relationship to the papacy. A brief summary: Since 1916 and 1917, the presence of St. Michael, and Our Lady at Fatima is a very clear sign that there is a great battle being engaged against God by the devil (cf. Apocalypse Chp. 12). It stands to reason that this battle is particularly directed against the Catholic Church and the papacy. The papacy is also a central theme on which Our Lady of the Rosary focused in her message at Fatima. This is the context which must be borne in mind when we see – and hear of – what is happening within the papacy in our day. The devil is launching a terrible and horrific battle against the pope. Therefore, in obedience to Our Lady’s request, we have to pray very much, and do much penance especially for the pope. Father Rodríguez concludes by providing us with five concrete things that each of us can do, and ought to do.
oops, Chuck, I see your confirmation’s happening in an SSPX chapel and not in a church of NOwhere land. God bless! so excuse my comments commiserating you on a stripped down liturgy. You’ll get the full Faith.
p.s. trust me, it’s only when you get the impoverished version that you wonder if it is, in fact, all valid.
My mom always said,” if the word NEW is used in front of another word pertaining to the faith, always. Be leery. Proceed with caution.” Boy was she right. Anyone, know about Fr. Pacwa new videos out titled Pope Francis, pope of the NEW WORLD? What’s this new world stuff?? Just saying!!
pope of the ‘new world’. pope of the new. pope of the world.
While I would never advocate someone attending a chapel of the SSPX, I do think he is using unnecessary hyperbole. In an attempt to persuade people to avoid their chapels, it is possible he has been overly zealous. While they are irregular, I’ve never seen any evidence that they are heretics. I think his reference to “Protestants” simply means their irregularity and that their bishops hold no jurisdiction. Priests, in order to validly absolve from sin and witness marriages, must have faculties from a bishop who has canonical jurisdiction. Some of those who are commenting here need think about charity toward a priest who is trying, by the grace of God, to live and practice his Catholic faith sincerely. He is not the enemy.
In the documentary on the life of Abp. Lefebvre which was recently released in America, a famous professor and journalist, Jean Madiran, who had distanced himself from the SSPX in 1988, made nonetheless this brave declaration regarding the Lefebvre consecrations: “It is hard for me to say today that he was mistaken.” Since he passed away in 2013, it is, at least in a small way, his testament. That the most famous French layman of the Traditionalist struggle is willing to affirm this soon before dying should make us ponder. Many faithful in the young generation refuse this mutual demonization whose only motivation seems to be the fear of having some sheep escape to the neighboring pasture.
….from Rorate Caeli…..A Call For Unity…….
dear Jeff Culbreath
I do not think your comment was nasty. I am not saying that my opinion is important. Just that I agree with you 150%. This priest is in need of much education and guidance, as are thousands of shepherds today, let us pray for him. Meantime, I will protect my children from him. I’ve had a yellow caution light about this man for some time, now the light is red.
Archbishop Lefebvre, pious and self – sacrificing shepherd, pray for us.
dear Saluto,
just to thank you for always acknowledging my requests to pray for my children. He that is faithful in the small things——. God love you.
dear Chuck,
My heart goes out to you because RCIA can be a discouraging experience. If you are, I’d say the brethren here will encourage you to persevere. I can only add that — always remember the Church is a compassionate Mother.
My experience in RCIA was utterly heartbreaking. I thought at that time {mid-1980’s,} –I’d be converting to the same religion that had the elements of the Mass & Doctrine that my Dad brought me to in 1949. But the “classes” were protestant at best, pantheistic at worst. But I went through it.
You do not have to attend RCIA to convert to Catholicism. I am sure you know this, but in case you want to know more, I am sure the erudite commentors here, {heh-not me, not for nothing, } will advise.
Peace be to you.
Great article Louie! Why are we attacking each other? This question was posed early in the comments list. I would like to pose that unity in the catholic church is not wanted by one or more other groups in society. Keeping the catholic church divided is what this group(s) wants. The return of SSPX and the welcoming of Anglicans that want to return to the one true church makes these organizations react. I will give you a hint. After SSPX was welcomed back with lifting of Ex-Comm. by Pope Benedict XVI, the SSPX was declared publicly to be a holocaust denier. The purpose of this slander was to stop reunification.
It is time to unite with our brothers and sisters regardless. Board the barque of Peter!
Great article Louie! Why are we attacking each other? This question was posed early in the comments list. I would like to pose that unity in the catholic church is not wanted by one or more other groups in society. Keeping the catholic church divided is what this group(s) wants. The return of SSPX and the welcoming of Anglicans that want to return to the one true church makes these organizations react. I will give you a hint. After SSPX was welcomed back with lifting of Ex-Comm. by Pope Benedict XVI, the SSPX leader was declared publicly to be a holocaust denier. The purpose of this slander was to stop reunification.
It is time to unite with our brothers and sisters regardless. Board the barque of Peter!
Bishop Fellay has announced a fourth Rosary Crusade with the goal of offering 5 million rosaries to Our Lady for the intentions of:
To implore from the Immaculate Heart of Mary a special protection for the traditional apostolate;
For the return to Tradition within the Church;
For the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the consecration of Russia.
Below are instructions on how you can join this new Rosary Crusade.
http://sspx.org/en/join-rosary-crusade
” the SSPX leader was declared publicly to be a holocaust denier. ” That one *one* of the bishops (Williamson), not the leader (Fellay) but yes, it was done to slander the SSPX and trads in general. Early last year, there were a flurry of blog posts by various people about rad trads and how anti-semitic they are. Divide and conquer!
Dear Linda,
Thanks for the comment. I can’t retract the gut feeling about Fr. N. which I expressed upthread, because I still have it, but it’s usually best to keep such things to oneself. Gut feelings can be wrong – mine can, anyway – and giving voice to them can scandalize. Gut feelings also tend to disregard human complexity. Nevertheless Fr. N. has much to answer for, even by the same standards Christine rightly wants us to keep around here. Such “confidence” as Fr. N. expresses in his rash, public judgment against faithful and orthodox Catholics doesn’t come from a good place. Let’s hope it arises from human weakness rather than malice.
Fr. A says,
“I think his reference to “Protestants” simply means their irregularity and that their bishops hold no jurisdiction. Priests, in order to validly absolve from sin and witness marriages, must have faculties from a bishop who has canonical jurisdiction. Some of those who are commenting here need think about charity toward a priest who is trying, by the grace of God, to live and practice his Catholic faith sincerely. He is not the enemy.”
Thank you, Fr. A, for this explanation. I totally agree.
I suppose the SSPX are little-p protestants in the sense that they are protesting against the Vatican II reforms and the Novus Ordo Mass. But on the other hand they aren’t so much protesting as they are resisting what they know to be contrary to the Depositum Fidei. I’ve read that the SSPX actually accepts more of the Vatican II written content than most Catholic clergy and prelates. However, they are wisely holding fast against the embedded errors and ambiguities. I wonder how Francis would respond to paragraph 14 of Lumen Gentium which begins with the statement that “this Sacred Council teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation”?
“I think his reference to ‘Protestants’ simply means their irregularity and that their bishops hold no jurisdiction.” Of course, the SSPX has never claimed that their own bishops have jurisdiction, and they readily admit that the local diocesan ordinary has jurisdiction. They pray for the local bishop precisely in that context. Not having canonical faculties doesn’t = “protestant”. They have temporarily suspended obedience to the local bishop – not in principle, but as an emergency measure – in matters where the Catholic Faith would be compromised. The idea that obedience to one’s local bishop could be a danger to the Faith these days shouldn’t be news to Fr. N. or anyone else with eyes to see.
stated with precision and without ambiguity. Oh, how I’ve been missing that since about 1950 or so.
The author finds it offensive that NA 4 asserts that Jews and Christians are one.
That’s it? That’s the pinnacle of his arguments against the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council? Why, pray-tell, is it so offensive that Christians believe themselves to be the spiritual descendants of Abraham? Why is it offensive to teach, as the Scriptures do, that the Gentiles are but wild roots grafted onto tree of David?
It is apparent that, if this is the greatest argument against the SVEC, the author needs to look more deeply into his faith.
Even readers of Culture Wars Magazine (which holds a position close to Fr. Nicholson) know that the exploitation of Williamson’s remarks are proof positive of the adage: “You can have unity in the Church or Dialogue with the Jews; not both!”
I’m not required to sign anything like what the SSPX leadership is being asked to sign. Why are they being asked to embrace ambiguity?
http://www.culturewars.com/2009/Williamson.htm
Thanks for your comment, BabA. I gave three examples of propositions found in the conciliar text from among those that conflict with the Faith of the Church.
In the case of NA 4, what is so offensive is that Our Lord said something rather different, “He who rejects me rejects Him who sent me.”
One is forced to believe either Him or NA 4. I choose the Lord.
Take a moment to read the conciliar text for yourself. You will find that it evens goes so far as to misappropriates Ephesians 2 to make the false assertion that we are “one” with modern days Jews who deny Christ.
Read this. It may help:
https://akacatholic.com/naclear/
I think I’m submissive to the Pope.
He wants me to hear Holy Mass, pray, do good works, witness to the Faith, observe the commandments of the Church, not live in sin, and save my soul.
That’s what this or any pontiff wants of me, right?
So how would I, as a traditionalist, not be submissive?
Let us keep Fr Paul Nickolson in our prayers……. Some one should send him a dvd on the Documentary Of Archbishop Lefebvre…………. After seeing it he would gladly join SSPX.. A very moving story.. He is a saint in heaven.. God Bless Ps. Everyone should see it. I hope they will
Thank you for this article. Pointing out someone’s errors, is not attacking them. It is actually merciful to confront their errors. With that said, I am very concerned about Rev. Nicholson. His website, his request for donations and his support and enthusiasm for “The Way” and Opus Dei. Honestly, I am not sure why we need these groups. Isn’t he Catholic Church with its sacraments enough for everyone. None of these Holy Saints need such groups: St. Theresa of Lisesuex, St. Theresa of Avila, St. Paul, St. Peter…of course I could go on and on, but you get the point. They had the Holy Catholic Church in all its glory, and that was enough. Please God have mercy on us.