On 11 July 2018, the Priestly Society of St. Pius X (FSSPX) elected a new Superior General – Fr. Davide Pagliarani, until then, the District Superior of Italy.
Based on its public commentary of the past two years or so, it is unfortunately difficult to say what the SSPX considers its greatest challenges in the present day.
I’ve written rather extensively in this space about the mixed and contradictory messages that have been coming from the SSPX in recent years. I won’t repeat those concerns here other than to say that a sincere seeker of truth today may very well come away from their website more confused than ever as to what is, and what is not, consonant tradition.
As of this moment, it seems that the SSPX has lost sight of the grave necessity of having a very clear and consistent public stance on the current state of affairs in the Church; offering bold and unambiguous condemnations of every blasphemy and heresy that comes forth from men in authority who are trusted by many.
Doing so in our day requires, above all, a willingness to address head-on the unprecedented mockery that is being made of the papacy. One thinks back to October of 2013 and Bishop Fellay’s public declaration, which has since faded into a deafening silence, “We have in front of us a genuine Modernist!”
Returning to such clarity and conviction, in my view, is the major task that lies before the SSPX, and only time will tell if the election of a new Superior General will make a difference in this regard.
One thing is certain: To the extent that the SSPX is pleased to operate – as it has appeared of late – under the assumption that it is enough to simply minister to their own, to focus on priestly formation, and to manage their own internal affairs, while taking care not to offend neo-conservative sensibilities, it will ultimately fail to adequately serve the needs of God’s people in the present day.
Writing in the August 2008 issue of Si Si No No, Fr. Pagliarani said of Vatican II:
The very finality of the Council, convoked with the explicit intention not to define truths of faith and not to condemn error (cf. Gaudet Mater Ecclesia), inaugurated a magisterium with a novel method and approach… the Second Vatican Council was convoked not to define dogmas, correct errors, or condemn doctrinal deviations as in the past, but to bond with the modern world. This decision to leave aside any intention of imposing certain truths of faith meant that the Council was intended to abstain from teaching in the objective, traditional, and magisterial sense of the term.
These words were written nearly a decade ago and one wonders:
Does Fr. Pagliarani believe that the Society has a duty to teach in the objective, traditional, and magisterial sense of the term, and if so, does he still believe that this necessarily involves correcting errors and condemning doctrinal deviations, otherwise it will merely be bonding with the modern world?
We shall see. In the meantime, let us pray and fast for the SSPX and for Fr. Pagliarani, as clearly he has a lot of important work to do.
Indeed, Mr. V, “let us pray and fast for the SSPX and for Fr. Pagliarani, as clearly he has a lot of important work to do.” But I have another suggestion that might “make a mess” at the same time we are fasting and praying.
It seems to me that the laity’s role in stopping the canonization of Paul VI on October 14th is easily along lines of St Nicholas punching Arius in the face. Maybe akaCatholic.com can help lead the way by focusing on Father Luigi Villa and his work.
–You won’t be discussing Pope Francis (although that is NOT a problem here).
–Much of the research about Fr. Villa and what he uncovered has already been done 100%.
–Credibility is already high for Fr. Villa because of the Doctors von Hildebrand’s connection to him and his magazine, Chiesa Viva, from 1970 to 1977.
–Fr. Villa and his work has the stamp of approval of not only St. Padre Pio but Pope Pius XII.
–Disenfranchised Catholics are having their own #WalkAway ‘woke’ moments and the question of Paul VI’s “sanctity” because of his well-known homosexuality will be and is a coalescing issue.
–In 2012, ALL the Episcopal Conferences (including the USCCB) were sent Fr. Villa’s Letter to the Cardinals as were ALL the Cardinals, specific individual bishops, and members of the laity. In other words as with Cardinal McCarrick, “EVERYBODY KNEW!”. 1
–Again, tagging on to “everybody knew”, in February 1998 Paul VI, Beatified? was released and “the first 5,000 copies [were sent]. Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and thousands of Italian Priests were given a copy of this book simultaneously. From Rome, someone told us that the Vicar of the Pope, Cardinal Ruini, was furious. He wondered who had financed the printing and mailing of these books, free of charge, to thousands of members of the Italian Clergy. When Father Villa told me [Dr. Franco Adessa] about this telephone call, smiling, he said: ‘We should respond to the Vicar of His Holiness, that the lenders are three Persons and their names are: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.’ “(FINAL Who REALLY Was Father Luigi Villa p.38)2
My point is that just because the population in general did not know about Paul VI, exactly like with Cardinal McCarrick, everybody else DID know.
I can just see lay Catholics of most every stripe around the country protesting in front of their chanceries with signs like: Canonize Paul VI–the Sodomite Saint?! NO way!!!! The veil will be lifted and the false ecumenical dominoes of Vatican II will fall. There will be no need to even mention Pope Francis.
https://padrepioandchiesavi…
2. https://padrepioandchiesavi…
For goodness sake, the Father must be a Catholic. He can’t possibly believe that Jorge Bergoglio is Pope of the Catholic Church. There has just got to be someone sane in a position of authority. The Priest at my local SSPX says that he believes Jorge is the Pope but I just can’t believe he truly believes that. He never lied, he always taught the truth, I just can’t understand why he said that. I still have to believe that he is suffering some type of denial, but these men really seem bright and sane and to love the Lord. They’ve devoted their lives to the Church. I know they will wake up soon and they will defend Her. There can’t be nobody, its just not possible.
I apologize. The links did not paste well.
https://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/A_Letter_to_Cardinals.html
https://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/FINAL_Who_REALLY_was_Fr._Luigi_Villa.pdf
I believe it might have been Fr Ripperger who stated fifty percent of those in the Vatican are homosexuals but I cannot be sure. at any rate he seems to condemn us all as Trads for reading too much and writing too much on this present situation. Fr Hoatson said in his experience 70% of the Bishops were homosexuals in his legal document.
Out of all of this I have concluded THEY elected THEIR man who sits on Peter’s throne.
I would like all Trads thought on this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12dfS75x_UY
Which brings me back to another point. Did Jesus mean for Peter to sit on a throne ?
When did we first make the Bishop of Rome ,who was always considered the First among many or the decider, a Prince? When did we first coin the title Ponitfex Maximus which was designated for Caesars and place that burden on the shoulders of Jesus’ Representative on earth?
Jesus was mocked as King of the Jews by His enemies and he told us His Kingdom was not of this earth. But groups like Opus Dei and the Legion of Christ push the notion that THEY are building His Kingdom on earth.
CC, I fear the anti-pope Bergolio will fake canonize Montini come autumn and there isn’t much anyone can do to stop it. Canonizations are pretty near close, if not actually, infaillable. So it is going to be hard for those who claim Bergolio is Pope to deny Montini as a Saint. But perhaps TGS and Remnant can conjure up some excuse to “resist” based on their own authority.
” … the Society has neither the mission nor the charism to change the Church in a day. The Society simply intends to cooperate so that the Church can reclaim her Tradition in its entirety … “.
Superior General – Fr. Davide Pagliarani.
Based on SCRIPTURE first and foremost, you snake.
“Doing so in our day requires, above all, a willingness to address head-on the unprecedented mockery that is being made of the papacy. One thinks back to October of 2013 and Bishop Fellay’s public declaration, which has since faded into a deafening silence, “We have in front of us a genuine Modernist!”
Returning to such clarity and conviction, in my view, is the major task that lies before the SSPX, and only time will tell if the election of a new Superior General will make a difference in this regard.”
Oh Louie, return to such clarity? Bishop Fellay backtracked on those comments just a couple of months later (December 2013):
“I used the word ‘modernist;’ I think that it was not understood by everybody. Perhaps I should have said a modernist in his actions. Once again, he is not a modernist in the absolute, theoretical sense: a man who develops a whole coherent system; that coherence does not exist.”
Please dont rehash the resist to your face canard. It has been shown over and over and over that it doesn’t apply to rejecting the authority of a Pope. It was a rebuke for behavior only. Scripture tell us to avoid all those who preach a false gospel, no to sift what is said by those who preach a false gospel. You simply lie Stalin. But then again that is what Stalin is known for. Lies.
I couldn’t even listen past 4:20. This is total nonsense. That’s my thought, Sweep. I don’t know why people can’t just be normal. Sins of impurity in tradition, half the women still have tiger claw bangs. I don’t believe a word of this. Do they sin, are there lunatics, ofcourse. Being a Catholic is not being a gnostic and it certainly doesn’t make you more impure than anyone else. I find this Priest offensive. We need a Pope, darn it.
Which Scripture is that?
It is almost a certainty that Fr. Pagliarani well understands that the strategy of Ratzinger/Bergoglio is, as Brian McCall states, “a bit more subtle, namely, to force the SSPX into a continual state of division and defections so as to keep its numbers low enough to be ignored, as opposed to luring the Society into the Conciliar Church. If this were the strategy, the Modernists could be using the constant recurring possibility of canonical regularization to divide and conquer.
A review of the past forty years would suggest that a strategy of “divide the SSPX to contain its influence” seems to explain the Roman authorities’ behavior. Although using different instruments, the goal seems fairly clear: Get as many priests and religious to leave the Society as possible so its growth is artificially controlled.”
Pagliarani definitively rejects regularization and my hope is that for the continuation of the Society and the good of the Church he will boldly and constantly call on those few remaining conservative prelates to abjure publicly Vatican II, and demand that the Antipope do so formally as well and return to the Faith.
Everybody’s gonna be better than Msr. Fellay. I lost respect for him after hyper-terrible interview to Tim Sebastian.
“the canonical situation in which the Society presently finds itself is the result of its resistance to the errors that infest the Church; consequently the possibility of the Society arriving at a regular canonical situation DOES NOT DEPEND ON US BUT ON THE HIERARCHY’S ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONTRIBUTION THAT TRADITION CAN MAKE TO THE RESTORATION OF THE CHURCH.
If we do not arrive at some canonical regularization, that simply means that the hierarchy is not yet sufficiently convinced of the urgent need for that contribution. In that case we will have to wait a few more years, hoping for an increase in that awareness, which could occur along with and parallel to the acceleration in the process of the CHURCH’S SELF-DESTRUCTION.”
Superior General – Fr. Davide Pagliarani.
So LennyB, I was only able to do a quick read about that theory you mentioned but it posits that one of these anti-popes who hold a different faith will convert to Catholicism and that is how we will get a Pope? So, we just pray for the conversion of the “Pope” to Catholicism? Perhaps we should send him some pamphlets or Catechisms, a green scapular? This approach seems pretty passive aggressive. Did I get the wrong impression?
As Our Lord said many times, Tom, “Fear not.” Is it possible “we count too much on human means and too little on the help of almighty God? Certainly, we are not to remain idle awaiting God’s help; we must do all that is in our power. Nevertheless, we must never hope for success from our own efforts and labors, but only from the help of divine omnipotence. (Divine Intimacy entry 240 end of meditation 2). Have you looked at Father Villa’s work, Tom?
2Vermont: I have tried to get other frequent posters’ attention regarding Father Luigi Villa, his work, and (as I see it) the present opportunity to help in the salvation of souls. Have you heard of Fr Villa especially in regards to Paul VI? Tom, seems to have brushed off the possibility of helping others in favor of stirring up TGS. Seriously, you all, are we not called to save souls?
TGS, Yo can write to the Vatican or the Jesuits and find out if Malachi Martin was truly laicized by Pope Paul the 6th . Yes, I know for certain he did continued say a private Mass for friends and family and hear Confessions.
He was the spiritual director for a friend’s aunt .The friend was a Deacon for the SSPX after having attended their Winona Seminary for several years.He was the one who urged me to meet Malachi because of experiences we endured in several Diocese and he went to the bookstore with us where he was giving a small talk about his book “Windswept House”. Otherwise, I never would have met him in person.
John Vennari also urged me to go meet with him as he liked Malachi very much and told me he had dined with him.
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/04Apr/apr14hot.htm
Lily Flower, thank you for the glowing endorsement .Without enemies I would never know for sure if telling the truth was definitely in God’s plan .
” Fr. Vincent O’Keefe, S.J., who aided and abetted the slander against Martin for nearly 40 years, has finally come clean and absolved the impugned prophet and insider whose factional works clearly outlined the Vatican II agenda well before it was made manifest. Often referred to by media pundits and ecclesiocrats as the “fly on the wall” because he knew where the bodies were buried, if you will, and what the next step would be when most were afraid of their own shadow, the slander followed Malachi to his grave. What convinced the former Vicar General O’Keefe to finally abandon the lie and fess up? Could it be another miracle from seeing ‘The Passion of The Christ’? Why else, other than O’Keefe, now nearer death’s door, has taken stock of his life and is determined to right the wrongs in reparation for his own sins? If only the entire Order, once so loyal to the Church and the Popes in the traditions and purpose established by St. Ignatius Loyola could be as open and penitent. Kennedy presented the official absolving by O’Keefe which must chafe many a Jesuit who so cherish bashing Fr. Martin for exposing the Society’s sins in his books”
I would like to know- will the bishops of the SSPX consecrate Fr. Paglianrani to the episcopate? Does the Superior General have to become a bishop?
Melanie He is the head of the Order of Traditional Exorcists.
A Catholic lawyer who attends an SSPX chapel recommended his video talks. I am not sure I agree with him on every point but from what I seen here and in one SSPX chapel , he may be making some good points. You should listen to it in it’s entirety and think about it before you come to a quick decision.
@Stonka Ziemniaczana wybacz, że zapytam;
A dla kogo ty masz szacunek?
Re: Martin , also of interest.
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00CZfv
Also.”“The clarification appeared on the Malachi Martin yahoo e-group posted by a member who communicated with Fr. Tom Widner SJ, Secretary for Communication of the US Jesuit Conference, concerning Martin’s status. Father Widner questioned Father O’Keefe – now retired ( Now deceased)– and he recalled Martin’s receiving a special dispensation relieving him of all his vows except for chastity. The communication (see below) also promoted two other myths about Martin including the lie that Martin lived in an unchaste relationship. The message referred to an incorrect obituary of Martin which appeared in the New York Times. The lady in question was merely Martin’s landlady for whom he also acted as spiritual advisor. The communication also falsely reports that Martin requested release from his vow of chastity, another lie which was spread about the scholarly priest.”
Concerned Commenter, I seem to recall that Father Villa’s work makes a strong case that Paul VI was a sodomite. Don’t you think that this book would encourage those misfits in Rome to “canonize” him? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone on here besides you even use the term sodomite. Lay Catholics of every stripe don’t want to appear to “hate” sodomites, they would never do this protest and it really is the least of the horrible things Jorge is pretending to change in Christ’s Church. Almost everything he seems to do involves desecration and sacrilege.
Not at all! Look to the Blog’s author. Louie was one of the foremost apologists for Vatican II as “continuity” and not rupture. He abjured it all and lost much with the Conciliar Church. At one time I bought the V2 Council was just “pastoral” argument hook line and sinker. Pray always that Jorge Bergoglio and Josef Ratzinger abjure their heresies and attain the Beatific Vision!!!
Strange isn’t it. Bishop Galarreta is his adviser?
I will, but in the SSPX Chapel that I attended, I saw no signs whatsoever of the people being impure. Never. If he is hearing this in the Confessional, I’m not sure he should be sharing that. I don’t know about this generational demons stuff and the whole diabolical narcissism thing. Seems like it might over complicate that fact we all struggle with concupiscience.
For example: Hippolytus is accorded special recognition in Church history: Not only is he the first antipope but he is also the only antipope ever canonized! His unique case provides an example of repentance and reconciliation for those who have separated themselves from the Church.
Lenny B, I didn’t mean to give the impression that I don’t pray for the conversion of all sinners. I just think it’s a pretty flimsy Papacy if the holder teaches a foreign religion for decades. Louie Verrecchio was not the Pope and he was taught by the “Pope” that Vatican II was in continuity and not rupture by the “Pope.” He should have been able to believe the “Pope.” Someone recently commented that you shouldn’t need a PhD to figure out what the faith is and isn’t and I totally agree. Is the Papacy something other than the Papacy while it is occupied by an anti-pope? It doesn’t seem to serve the same purpose but an anti-purpose. Is this more of that Church and anti-Church existing in the same space? Because I really think that is a novel and foriegn and bad concept.
CC, I have heard of the good works of Fr. Villa. All that he uncovered is most likely true. Today’s battle is one of theology. The documents and magesterium of the conciliar church still stands in direct opposition to the faith as taught prior to V2. That is all one needs to concern themselves with. Fatima, Fr Villa, who was gay or a freemason are all speculation at thos point. We know from St Pope Pius X that modernism is an enemy of the Church and the faith. We all know that the conciliar church officially teaches modernism. Why so many cannot draw the obvious logical conclusion baffles my mind. Sorry CC, I do not get caught up in conspiracies. There is no need to. The documents speak for themselves. Read them and draw the only logical conclusion. The Church prior to 1958 is not the conciliar apostate church of today. Flee from it and all who are part of ita diabolical structure. One tiny drop of modernism is too much and infects the whole batch. So be leary of the FSSP and your indult masses. They are rife with modernism. The SSPx better be careful too. They avoided a sure trap and without Bp Fellay at the helm they have a chance to steer clear without being tainted by the contagion of modernism.
Yes I have and it is shocking what he uncovered.
CC, one more thing. Delving into the dirt and filth of various prelates is never going to save one soul. Knowing and living the Catholic Faith as taughy prior to the disasters of the 1960s WILL save your soul. All other faiths can only lead to damnation and that includes the NO fake religion. I do not suggest that all NO pew sitters are damned, because only God knows their culpability in not knowing the true Catholic faith. But the dogmas and doctrines taught by the NO sect are evil and means of damnation not salvation (as taught by Trent and pre conciliar Popes).
Oh yeah, Melanie! Sorry, you too are one of the frequent commenters here. I didn’t mean to leave you out. Thank you for your attention to my suggestion. Yes, you are correct. Among other evils, Father Villa’s work at Chiesa Viva exposed Paul VI’s perversion. I think that all the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance are defining points for people–not just Catholics. I think this is true because Natural Law is written on our hearts. The “gray” goes out of those intrinsic evils and the “black and white” of them get very clear.
One of the points that Fr Villa made is that members of the hierarchy don’t fear anything but the courts of civil and criminal law. Don’t you think they also fear the court of the public square? Mr Verrechio is good to point out how important photo ops are for Francis at least. Besides also pointing out Paul VI’s masonic bent, Fr Villa observed that the only power the powerful have is secrecy. I thought we laity might use Fr’s work and the evidence that it was widely distributed prior to the beatification to shine the light in each of our little circles of influence that everybody knew and–you are right again–they still want to canonize him.
Po pierwsze: wybaczam
Po drugie: zgadnij
Po trzecie: nie czepiaj się słówek. Straciłem do niego szacunek jako dla lidera głównej społeczności katolickiej, nie dla niego samego.
Sorry for the long polish insert but I was provoked by my compatriot.
Thank you, Tom. With so many pew-sitters blind or asleep for whatever reason, it seems to me that the injustice of “everybody knew” is a rallying cry to wake them up. They will connect the dots of VII, the NO, Paul VI, etc…and save their souls. Revealing the shocking filth that Fr Villa uncovered about others as well as Paul VI is a blessed means to an end, namely, get the blind to see so ignorance and false obedience can’t be used as excuses anymore.
Melanie, you didn’t give me that impression. I don’t know about a PhD, but you do need to consider some factual historical outcomes. First, Our Lord is the Lord of History. Second, antipopes are more common than most understand them to be. Each time, however, Our Lord ensured the Church straightened things out. All of the antipopes were eventually found out and deposed. As I mentioned, one even became a Saint! Each case was its own unique story. There is no clear-cut description that fits all of them, so that we can say they all hold this or that in common. That politics and political intrigue were often involved is an inescapable fact. Check out the historical list of the antipopes, and realize that this, too, shall pass. One way or another, the Church will survive the V2 infiltration and thrive. We may not see it in this life, but Holy Mother Church always wins in the end. As for the sharing the “same space” thing think about the wheat and the tares, and remember the antipopes are criminal squatters they don’t own the space they temporarily steal it.
Sweep, I so often agree you w/you that I’m really surprised you saw good points in this video at all. I really thought it was garbage. Is it a good point that every man is imperfect, that every person sins, what is it with this traditional movement denigration? What is that? Your telling me we have a fake Pope, a fake council, a fake New Order religion because we aren’t providing a perfect example to others? This is complete garbage. This homily is total nonsense and garbage. One point, that trads disrespect and disobey who they believe is the Pope is valid. That is a very big mistake they are making because they can’t fathom that it is possible to have a fake Pope. It’s unfathomable; I don’t know how the heck they pulled it off. We have a fake Pope people so don’t throw away your belief in the Papacy and dismiss the importance of obedience because of a successful fraud.
Is the Church able to lose her tradition in the first place?
Chciałbym znać język polski, żeby zrozumieć, co mówicie.
The superior general does not have to be a Bishop in the SSPX.
@Stonka Ziemniaczana
Words, are so often used out of context, sometimes in encouragement, sometimes in malice, or to dishonor another, according to ones ‘state of heart.’
Niech Będzie Pochwalony Jezus Chrystus!
No need then for me to write to the Vatican!
It is strange that they never consecrated any more bishops though. Its been 30 years. When these 3 die, then what?
Ah, to jest tajemnica…….
Nice surprise, Rich.
lol
Melanie , i have to admit I bristled when he hit on “obedience” without clarifying the fact that we never have to obey in something we know is sinful even if it comes from a Pope.
What I experienced at an sspx chapel was an air of arrogance. like when the older couple heard the Latin Mass singing and came in from the street on a winter’s day. The senior woman was rushed in the foyer because she had no veil and told she should not go in because she was wearing pants. So wrong! Let them go in and if they like it they will come back not wanting to stand out as different.
Hewko was the priest at this chapel. I read now on CathInfo that so many sspx pew people are now figuring out what he and his band of priest friends are about.They always show themselves eventually. Thanks be to God.
I wish I could speak Polish….Im not even that great at English.
Google Translate is awesome
It has been thought that canonizations were “infallible” but I no longer can accept this when Paul VI is “canonized” or liberation fomenters or the former chief of the Jesuits, etc. No. The “canonizations” of post VII folks are very suspect as far as I can tell. “Miracles” are suspect with them, etc.
The thing is that the pope is the one who the cardinals say is pope and they say Bergoglio is pope. But does he seem to have the charism of a true pope? Therein lies the rub.
@Rich
You speak well, enough to understand what’s on your mind.
+ Laudetur + Jesus + Christus +
Thank you my friend
Doubt and Confusion:
The New “Canonizations” by John Vennari
https://www.catholicfamilynews.org/blog/2014/3/31/doubt-and-confusion-the-new-canonizations
The question can be reduced to:
Can any ordinary person identify a Catholic from a non-Catholic?
They are going to have to consecrate more Bishops without the approval of Rome, sooner rather than later. It will be 1988 all over again.
Tom I disagree with your statement here. “Delving into the dirt and filth of various prelates is never going to save one soul.”
On the contrary, being aware of who is who in the sodomite mine field of clerics ( and believe me it is a mine field these days )
CAN and does enlighten parents just who they can trust with their children, especially in the sacristy or confessional.
Preventing just one child from a pederast attack saves not only souls but minds and bodies.
As far as canonizations alarm bells went off when JP2 changed the process eliminating the devil’s advocate barring those who knew Escriva was a tad less than sanctity requires, from presenting their evidence to the largely Opus Dei represented connected commission.
THEY have elected their Pope and now THEY will canonize their saint in October . We will sit by and watch vowing to never pray to but for ,Pope Paul the Sixth
A little not too distant history for younger Catholics who were not paying attention at the time.
John Vennari sent me the who was really who in “Windswept House” which he rec’d from Malachi.
Those of us who were paying attention at the time , realized the truth behind demonic consecration .
Steve Brady and the people connected with RCF including Cardinal Gagnon, tracked down and identified the woman who was abused at one of the many co consecration demonic clerical rituals . She did go to the Vatican and testify to and present the details of the horrible ordeal she went through as a child at the hands of Cardinal Bernadine , then a lower ranking cleric in his career in N.C.
RCF gave her the pseudonym “Agnes”.
A Mr Cook who was also the victim of the diabolical Bernadin and knew victim “Agnes” recanted his accusations while dying of AIDS. Bernadin enriched his bank account and asked him to participate in a Mass of Reconciliation to be televised from St Charles Borromeo to be aired for the people of Philadelphia and Camden Diocese . this was done at the request of Camden’s Bishop McHugh who at the time was being exposed via a RICO lawsuit launched by the Catholic lawyer, Steve Rubino Esq. whose sole career was funded by the many victims of clerical abuse in Camden Diocese. The Philadelphia Inquirer ran two weeks of the three page story saga every Sunday.
Steve was sickened watching these pederasts settle out of court with silence agreements only to be circulated through Providence RI Diocese to Ireland and back again to Camden Diocese while chalking up more victims . Employees for the Diocese told me while at a dual Diocesan picnic in PA they listened to priests laughing how Bernadin’s victim Cook’s bank account grew by over one hundred thousand dollars which he opted for to pay for his medical expenses.
The joke was on both Bernadin and McHugh when their televised PR ploy was pre empted for a sports event . Cook would state publicly that he had false memories of the sodomite abuse the younger Bernadin inflicted on him.
“Windswept House ” was Malachi’s vehicle to alert the pew sitters about this Black Mass diabolical consecration which happened in St Paul’s In Rome and Cardinal Gagnon and Steve Brady and friends opened the flood gates by getting the testimony of “Agnes” , now a woman living with her family and a husband in law enforcement in TX.
RCF exposed the “St Sebastian’s Angels” sodomite clerical dating site for Catholics to see.
Everyone of these Catholics suffered for their courageous acts in exposing the demonic rites within the institutional church. It had become more than just smoke by 1969 , it was the incense of hell which is till offered up today and now celebrated by the likes of Fr James Martin appointed by Borgoglio as a communications spokesman for the Vatican.
Absolutely nothing they can do or say will normalize the vice of sodomy in every catholic mind ,which cries out to Heaven for God’s vengeance
Sto lat. Today is my birthday and my mother, being Polish, sang me this song that I heard a zillion times growing up. Unfortunately, she was under the false illusion not to teach her children anything but English, so I never learned my ancestoral language. I must say I feel robbed just like I feel robbed by the NO V2 sect stealing the faith of my forefathers from me.
Tom A, you made me laugh. It is true, I have also heard it as I was growing up, and then as my son’s were growing up, my family was singing it for every birthday, for every member of the family….ha, ha, ha
Tom, do not feel ‘robbed’, for we are members of the ‘heavenly family’…….and we know, who we are, and understand the language They speak…..Our Faith is our ‘true inheritance.’ Deo Gratias!
May God grant us holy perseverance, and holy hope!
Happy birthday young man.
100 lat, Tom!
Melanie, we are in a horrible place right now. I take heart in the sincere belief that when there is an Apostate “pope” the Chair of St Peter is never vacant – HE guards the Chair, the Church and the Papacy until the Apostate goes and a true Pope is elected.
The only ones who can remove a bad non-pope [who has already removed himself from the papacy and indeed the Church due to open heresies and apostasy ] are the people who elected him. Sadly there aren’t enough ‘good’ Prelates with spine enough to deal with it.
I agree Melanie. You make important points. For myself I honor and respect the Office of the Papacy; always have and always will. But I will NEVER obey a bad pope who encourages grave sin; blasphemes against the Blessed Trinity; denies the real Presence; idolizes Luther; and promotes Sodomites to high offices. The choice is crystal clear – obey Bergoglio or obey the Holy Spirit……… no contest.
St Paul said “even should an angel come down from heaven and change one jot of Holy Scripture – let him be anathema” That’s good enough for me. Let’s each pray for one other for guidance, protection and discernment. Crux sacra sit mihi lux.
TPS – he did say ”…….. can reclaim her Tradition in its entirety.” And don’t you think that most Tradition went out of the window with Vatican II and ever since?
If it hadn’t been for the SSPX, and now also the FSSP, the Tradition would have disappeared completely.
The FSSP was a vatican 2 plan to destroy the SSPX. The FSSP is vatican 2 with latin.
Thank you very much, GSF.
It was semi-rhetorical. The Church is indefectible and cannot lose her essential nature and mission.
So what do we make of the religion that was spawned at Vatican II and is operating out of Rome today?
TPS:
Yes, you’re right. If there’s no agreement before the three are too old, we’ll have another 1988. Bishop Fellay has confirmed this within the last couple of years.
Thank you for the info.
What is ‘RCF’?
I don’t believe I co-incidences.
On Steve Skojec’s IP5 (“Rebuilding Catholic Culture, Restoring Catholic Tradition”), the man who has stated explicitly that his own culture is made up of bubble-gum and episodes of ‘Happy Days’ (get rebuilding and restoring, Steve! Yo!), Skojec has a thread entitled ‘Where is the Church?’
His site has been empty of new content recently. Even Church news from Germany filtered through his chum the Krautess Maike Hickson, news which usually keeps 1P5 afloat (for Steve has very little else) has fallen off, so I reckon he’s taken the idea for this article on the Church’s visibility directly from the discussion / argument / running battle that’s been had on that very subject in these pages these last days.
Glad we could help you out Steve. How’s the $20,000 monthly cash drive going?
I read somewhere (don’t remember where) that the results of this election had to be approved by the Vatican. Does anyone have any info about this? In any event, Father Pagliarini could turn the ship around away from Modernist Rome. This would be a blessing for the SSPX, the Catholic Church, and the world. It’s a heavy burden which needs much prayer. Time will tell where the SSPX is headed.
What you do is not “telling the truth”.
God help you.
The Great Stalin,
RCF is /was “Roman Catholic Faithful”.
Started by layman Steve Brady a Catholic father who clashed with his Bishop over a pederast who preyed on altar boys. Steve got the ball rolling and was joined by Traditional Catholics who exposed Cdl “Bernadin’s Boyz Club.”
https://rcf.org/
I see Mario Derksen below has an overview of the information. I would heartily suggest you go into the details possibly on the old RCF in the Newsletters site linked above and you will understand why there can be no reform of the Vatican or true return to Tradition under the Papacy until we sweepoutthefilth.
https://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/the_beginning_of_the_end_of_the_bernardin_legacy.pdf
Fr Alfred Kunz a Traditionalist and canon lawyer joined Brady and Bendell in the RCF effort to expose the lavender mafia taking over the institutional church in many Diocese. Fr Kunz had a radio show and was uncovering the sodomite clerics linked to satanism .He was viciously murdered for his efforts. Malachi Martin and many others joined them in their efforts. “Windswept House” described as a “faction”, detailed the satanic enthronement ceremony in the Vatican celebrated by prelates in Rome and concelebrated by the likes of Bernadin and others around the world. In his book ,”The Keys of this Blood” , Malachi refers to this enthronement ceremony as the “Superforce” within the Vatican.He stepped out further with “Windswept House” and I believe laid it all out in “Primacy” which was completed but was stopped from circulation.
Personally I spoke with all RCF involved with the exception of Fr Kunz.
Bishop Burke now Cardinal Burke was one of the first on the scene after Fr Kunz’s murder and ,I am told by someone who spoke to the original Detective, that he was allowed to cross the police tape and remove files from Fr Kunz’ office. Reporter Matt Abbot has been covering the Fr Kunz murder investigation yearly on the date of the anniversaries of the murder.
All his articles are online.
Steve Brady lost his son in a motorcycle accident , his Bishop and priests called for a boycott of his restaurant, he suffered an accident himself later on and finally capitulated to his family’s wishes to cease RCF because they had suffered already too many personal
losses. But before RCF shut it’s doors they were able to hack into an international hook up site consisting of clergy and prelates who were sodomites. Posted online, it shocked many Catholics into the realization of the true horror infecting our institutional church . The name of that site was “St Sebastian’s Angels”. I rec’d calls from a priest representing himself and other priests who overheard that RCF had a mole who alerted certain sodomite clerics to take down their filthy posts two weeks before RCF hacked into and copied their files. I believe that same mole was the priest who prevented the publication of Martin’s last book and made sure to create other obstacles to put an end to anymore revelations being made public.
My 2 Cents, a recent video here……..
https://gloria.tv/video/zhvEjGegsZhu1WVbciqaPkjFW
gives more information. Unfortunately, because the Monsignore is a member of Opus Dei , we are left wondering if the Prelature plans to rid itself of Francis and install their own , garnering even more power for it’s own organization.
He states he is “Absolutely certain that Francis election was orchestrated.” and it “…will lead to a Mass without Consecration.”
Lily Flower,
He has , Thank you!
The Great Stalin,
RCF…..
A few more links
http://www.rcf.org/pdfs/AMDGSpringSummer2000.pdf
https://rcf.org/pdfs/AMDGFallWinter2002.pdf
Skojak actually gave his reasons for slowing down his posts on his site.
TGS,
And finally this
http://philadelphiafreepress.com/the-black-mass-within-vatican-walls-p2368-1.htm
Which if you did not know the background or the people involved ( many in the links above on RCF), I can readily see how it is so difficult to believe.
The writer has one thing mistaken. Martin was never an Exorcist rather, he was asked to assist at times .
Furthermore, this enthronement event was what Fr Amorth had also referred to. Turin is known to be one of the five cities in the world with the most active satanists.
St. Sebastian’s Angels, Fr. Kuntz’s murder, Fr. Martin’s involvement with his work – I knew all that, but there’s much that’s new here. Thaks very much indeed for the links, I will read these. Looks like I’m going to learn a lot.
Do you happen to know if anyone has Fr. Martin’s last book, or the text of it?
Anti-Church, a completely false, cuckoo religion passing itself off as Catholicism. On this, we and the sedevacantists agree.
Yes – another of his ‘mood’ moments. He needs to rest his poor mind. This happens every three or four months, it’s all been seen before.
I don’t think his heart is in it. He’d like to walk away and do something else, so he’s trying to palm the work off to the others. Clear and obvious.
” … a Mass without Consecration ….”
This “Mass” would be the Abomination of Desolation, the failure of it/he who restrains (St. Paul).
This fits with, indeed in central to, my study of whether Bergoglio is the False Prophet.
TGS,
As I stated before I tried to track it down because he called me in March and told me what he wanted to discuss but added he had already sent his book to his Publisher the middle of the previous December.
Then speaking with a researcher who has a PhD in Forensic Psyche, she took the name of his Publicist i gave her and called with the same inquiry.
Right afterwards, she called me back and said it was a real hot button as the woman sounded actually panicked and kept repeating that it was just as Fiore said . She said she sounded very scared. Fiore wrote in his online eulogy of Martin hat unfortunately the book was never finished and he was in the process of editing for him when Malachi died.
I do not believe that. Because in our last conversation after Fr Kunz was found brutally murdered and his body mutilated as per Martin’s account in ‘Windswept” of hx choir director Pelligrini , I declined meeting with Martin for lunch because as I told him I did not trust one of his close priest friends. He asked me who and I simply wrote back, ” Fr Fiore”.
The title of the book was alleged to be “Primacy”.
Shortly after that, Rick Salbato alleged Malachi Martin’s landlady, was keeping him from seeing anyone including friends . I believe he was frightened with good reason . Fr Wickens celebrated his Requiem Mass. why not his very close friend Fr Fiore ?
Interestingly enough, I have a family Satanic connection with Italy. My paternal great-grandfather was an Italian called Carlo Fara. He was a member of Aleistair Crowley’s Golden Horus satanic sect and made his hotel, the Alexandria in Bradford in England, available for its rites. This was in the late 1880s and 1890s I believe. There is even some circumstantial evidence that he was Jack the Ripper.
His brother, Gustavo Fara, was a Rosicrucian and Mason, a General of the Italian Army in World War I and a high official in Mussolini’s Fascist government. There are roads named after him in Milan and Rome.
May God forgive both of them.
Remember he was a more recent convert and joined Regnum Christi of the Legion of Christ then part of the convert RC crowd that were hit hard by the pederast Maciel revelations.
I know because some of his friends who were converts and jumped into RC told me he was one of their friends.
RC and OD offer converts a means to peddle their trade and educational background as knowledgeable Catholics in media , to teach cradle Catholics how to be Catholic based on the rightful assumption that their has been a loss of catechesis for the past fifty sixty years. The trouble is that their own formation was under the Pontificate of the late JP2 . Their formation has not been entirely based on the Traditional Catholic Faith. Like the spin offs from EWTN.
I remember my father once told me that two or three days before he died, Fr. Martin had told a visitor that he hadn’t fallen at home, causing the injuries which days later killed him, but had been pushed by an invisible presence, and that this wasn’t the first time it had happened. I should ask my father if he can remember where he got this from, but he’s very old now and probably won’t be able to recall it.
That makes perfect sense.
I think that you may be mistaken about Mr. Skojec, Sweep. I do believe that he is a cradle Catholic and not a recent convert.
I admire you Papal Subject, but the question can be reduced even further – Can any ordinary person identify heresy? Wouldn’t it be helpful to our fellow readers here to explain why the answer to that question must be yes?
TGS,
Yes he was standing on a chair or a stool the one time he fell , but keep in mind he did suffer several ischemic attacks and when I met him he told me he did not think he would live past 2000.
But there was a real reason to fear as the way Fr Kunz died and the mutilation involved was a direct message to those who were exposing the satanic abuses .it was similar to the murder in “Windswept House” and it was a message to keep their collective mouths shut.Two priest friends told me about it. I do not think it was ever publicized and on of the priests even asked me if I thought he would be targeted. both highly educated older priests with a history of leaning towards Tradition and calling out the liberals. They knew .The all know.
The recent publicity exposing McCarrick whom they all knew about has opened even more flood gates of Catholics asking why straight priests do not open their mouths and protest the pervs that live among them. They are suspended or sent to no where land if they do.
Several of those who have, died under mysterious circumstance like Fr Minkler and I just read about another one in a comment under this recent article.
https://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/crime–law/priest-takes-defamation-suit-with-diocese-palm-beach-high-court/1CVSaOA0Oeo4AwVXDaXOdM/
Melanie, he is talking about the ‘behind the scenes’ sins of impurity that no one sees. Impurity comes in many forms and pornography seems to be a huge problem among traditional men. This corroborated from many sources. Remember what Our Lord said about ‘whited sepulchers?
Father is also correct about traditionalists acting as though they have a ‘secret knowledge’ that no one else has. I experienced it myself many years ago.
Melanie ,
You could be correct in that he was born Catholic. But he was definitely
a member of Regnum Christi, according to his friends who also exited.
The ones I knew did go into publishing articles and magazines ,on EWTN, and were converts.
Author: steveskojec
Steve Skojec is the Founding Publisher and Executive Director of OnePeterFive.com. He received his BA in Communications and Theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville in 2001. His commentary has appeared in The New York Times, USA Today, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, Crisis Magazine, EWTN, Huffington Post Live, The Fox News Channel, Foreign Policy, and the BBC. Steve and his wife Jamie have seven children.
https://akacatholic.com/proud-and-puffed-up-skojec-exposed/
RC and OD have been into marketing Catholicism but with only a touch of Tradition. You can usually find one of these monied quasi religious organizations behind them. i.e. Legatus , the pizza man’s thing.
Where is God really in all of these Mammon Corps.?
For example………..
https://fuzati.com/
With one of their headquarters in Dubai , I have to wonder if this marketing firm belongs to opus dei .
https://fuzati.com/portfolio/paradisus-dei/
Here you go guys…….marketing the new springtime.
http://paradisusdei.org/
Lake Erie, I do not believe that pornography is a huge problem among traditional men. Do I believe that traditional men commit sins, yes. I also believe that they are in a better position to save their souls because they may actually believe in and have recourse to the Sacrament of Confession. I do not think that it is a good thing for a Priest to say, hey I hear these guys’ Confessions and they’re all watching porn. Nope, there is something wrong with that, sorry. I don’t believe it and I think it’s meant to hurt the Church and those men trying to defend the Church. Not good.
Prime example …..reverts and converts making a good living and career on the “New Evangelization”. Always advertised on the new styled opus dei EWTN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4oKRWpjs6M
The guest is Fuzati Catholic Marketing Firm with one of three headquarters in Dubai. My point with RC,OD converts AND reverts.
Sweep, that was a disagreement. Steve Skojec really seems like a good Catholic guy. He seems to still think Jorge is the Pope but, that’s a pretty honest mistake. I hope that he keeps up 1P5. If he is Catholic and he is honest, that’s better than spin and propaganda. I have been fooled by, really, a LOT of people, but I really believe he’s honest.
Mel, let me explain something…..converts and reverts get hooked into these groups like opus dei and legion of christ’s regnum christi. Mainly because they have a Degree in some aspect of Catholicism. They offer them a career path as speakers, writers, guests on EWTN and the like.
Then if they pay attention they find out the lavender mafia is a big part of Catholicism and the New Evangelization under which these groups fall . I definitely see the path Skojec took after having been a member of Regnum Christi.
His eyes were opened with the Maciel and Legion public revelations . Given his recent video on sodomite clerics withing the church , knowing now that they all knew who and what McCarrick was apparently knocked the wind out of his sails ( at least it appeared to from his video).
All these groups ,Focalare ,RC, Neo Cats etc were placed under the purview of Cdl Wuerl by the Vatican ( I believe in a new Dicastery if I recall correctly )……..now if you realize what the Cardinal is about and you are a right thinking Catholic heterosexual male and father……..?
So yes, he maybe a very decent man. But he still has to play some catch up with what has happened with V2 .
Mel,
Remember .these New Evangelisazion groups do NOT want to promote Trad Catholicism . They throw their money behind what some call neo cons , who are definitely post V2 and accepting .
But slowly the light gets brighter in their heads and hearts if they are honest people.
Cardinal in Chief in charge
https://www.amazon.com/New-Evangelization-Passing-Catholic-Faith/dp/1612786987
Sweep, you’re making me feel like Steve Skojec’s biggest fan, but I really don’t think that he is involved in OD nor a convert nor a revert. Apparently, he did leave RC and I agree w/you that really everyone should avoid groups; groups are weird. But, ya know bad things have been happening to the Church and people are looking for Her. Who is not doing something weird right now? Blunderbuss. Blunderbuss is totally doing something normal.
Well, I’m rooting for him. I’m rooting for all Catholics; we need someone to lead the Church. Personally, I don’t feel like I’m on much firmer ground. I know Bergoglio’s no Pope and there’s nothing I can do about that.
Mel, this is when that New Dicastery was started and at first Wuerl headed it up.All these Lay movements fell under it.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope_expected_to_create_new_dicastery_to_re-evangelize_europe_us
Steve fell into Regnum Christi. This got you a promo into EWTN , speaking engagements etc.
There are plenty of people who were Protestants who “CAME HOME” for career purposes . I recall a VA news article years and years ago where five of them spoke about becoming Catholic and how they planned to make a living as Catholics having been trained as Protestant Ministers and attending Gordon Cromwell Seminary ……Hahn was one of them.
I’d be happy to. I thought I’d let the question hang there for a while to let the simplicity of the issue sink in for my fellow commenters.
The Church’s visiblity is caused by the outward/public profession of the Catholic Faith by her members. The members are made up of both clergy and laity, and the outward profession of Faith is required for both to be considered members of the Church.
If someone is baptised and professes the Faith, he is to be considered a Catholic. If someone, on the other hand, professes heresy, which is a denial of one or more articles of the Faith, then he cannot be considered to be a Catholic. If the Church could consist of the faithful and of heretics, then she is an invisible institution, and not the Catholic Church after all.
For those who say that a heretic must be declared to be so by the Church, then this just begs the question: How do we know that it is indeed the Church making the delcaration, if we cannot identify her members (again, whether clergy or laity) by their outward profession of Faith, and not heresy?
The answer to the question, “Can any ordinary person identify a Catholic from a non-Catholic?” must be yes, because it is necessary for anyone of any rank or file to identify the Catholic Church, and therefore who is and who is not a member, in order to submit to the legitimate authority. If this were not the case, then the Church would cease to be a visible society, which is impossible.
Arguments about infallible pronouncements etc, are red herrings.
This was the masterstroke of Vatican II, which taught that the Church of Christ merely “subsists in” the Catholic Church, but by extension, must also “subsist in” heretical congregations as well – admittedly to varying degrees.
Once that point was set, then Catholics have since thought that the Church is a mixture of the Faithful and of heretics. If a prelate happens to be wearing red vestments (or white), he must be submitted to by that fact alone. The true mark of membership is the Church is no longer a consideration.
The resulting tolerance of heretics posing as legitimate Church authority is almost universal, and so is the apostasy that has gone hand in hand with it.
Let’s be happy about that on which we can agree.
Can the Catholic Church exist (or “subsist” if one preferrs!!) inside another “church”?
I hope Rome doesn’t try to supply them with one! That would be disastrous. I’m sure that manoeuvre’s on their agenda as an way out of another “schism”. They might say, “you can consecrate new bishops, as long as you use the 1968 rite” or something like that.
From what I’ve read on the new SG, it doesn’t look like he’d be taken in by it.
Mel, what we need is real men who can stand up to the Cardinals demanding that only real men with vocations are being welcomed into the seminaries. A real man and father does not want his children being taught explicit and disordered sex ed in the Parochial school system .
I just spoke to a woman today who recalled it was McCarrick who pushed that crap in his Diocese years ago on young school children despite the protestations of Catholic mothers. and got rid of Father Wickens for backing them up !
We need strong Catholic men to lead this charge . There is hope for Skojek. We do NOT need these so called sects dictating to Catholic home schoolers under the banner of the New Evangelization of Modernist Catholicism.
I am happy Fusati’s home school web page and newsletter flopped. I am delighted Maciel and his minions were exposed including his Lay RC Movement who, under the guise of Spiritual Direction , secretly recorded member sessions. I am delighted Randy Engel has created Opus Dei Watch.
It is past the time for REAL MEN and Fathers to demand the Church ride itself of it’s perverted Ministers. Shame on the beer swilling Knights of Columbus who falsely represent chivalric Knights holding up their swords and swishing their capes on their feathered capped heads as they provide an honor guard for some clerical sodomite !!!!
C’mon Skojek and Louie ……..we need more Steve Bradys to rise up from the ashes.
I am not far from Dubai right now – in a neighbouring country. Dubai is one of the world’s foremost tax havens. The law allows 100% foreign ownership if one incorporates in one of the Free Zones (Ajman, Ras al Khaimah and others) and soon, if the newspaper stories are to be believed, in the territory of the Dubai Emirate itself. Opening bank accounts is no problem at all. SOTF, could you manage to trace the place of incorporation of Fuzati? It may be a red herring (Fuzati might have offices all over the place) but I doubt it.
Paradisus Dei:
“Integrating Church teachings with the latest findings of modern science and the wisdom of the saints, Paradisus Dei produces life-changing materials that expand the mind and touch the heart.”
Isn’t that lovely? It’s got “SECT” written all over it. Website comes complete with a Donations page, an online shop and 100 free tubes of White Supremicist (the whitening toothpaste you can really trust) for every convert.
I don’t want my f**king mind expanded, thank you very much. I just want my religion back.
Skojec’s a Traditionalist lightweight scared of touching any of the big subjects.
I hardly look at 1P5 anymore. I just did yesterday and saw that post on “Where is the Church?” He seems very depressed. I think he’s privately a sede, but is keeping it to himself becasue of his obligations in public. That’s my private judgement on the matter anyway…
To be honest Mel,
Having read every argument here , a thorough history of the Papacy including how the notion of a Papal temporal political power morphed out of the Spiritual representative of Christ on earth from the sandal wearing Apostle Peter who was instructed to give away both cloak and shoes should he come across one in need by Jesus . The same Jesus who told us His Kingdom was not of this earth!
I have read the revelations coming out about how Borgoglio was lobbied for, listened to McCarrick’s speech at Villanova U ,wherein he admitted an influential Italian businessman swayed his own vote for Borgoglio.
I do not know what the he is either aside from being a Jesuit Communist who plans to canonize a dead sodomite Pope and a Communist Jesuit Aruppe.
It’s Fujairah, the little Emirate closest to Oman. Free Zone! No tax.
TGS, You mean you do NOT want to donate to a Catholic Marketing firm for the New Evanglization whose one headquarter office is in Dubai?
I really cannot imagine why ! I sent the same info and more to one prominent Catholic author who wrote back her head was swimming.
Now you know too.
He immediately bans any sedevacantist comment. His Moderator attack dogs do the necessary for him. They are Fr. RP and Brian Miles, a nasty individual with the sense of humour of a bayonet in the guts and a thoroughly objectionable addiction for American jargon.
OH TGS……you MUST follow everything Randy is exposing and will be exposing on Opus Dei Watch. Write to her and ask to be on her list.
It’s all quite literally devilish.
Her stuff is all posted here by Louie, no?
You are very good on the homosexual filth question. Holiness and purity means nothing to these men — well, no, that’s not true. They evidently hate both. Even Consecrated Virgins no longer need to be virgins.
It’s all coming to a head.
That’s why he’s depressed, I reckon. His public obligations are causing an inner tumoil and there’s no way out. He has personally/privately changed horses since he began this endeavour, which had its unalterable “law of the Medes and the Persians” written in stone from the outset. Again, my take on the thing.
Canonisations no longer mean anything. We are so far removed from how it used to be done that none of them can be trusted any longer.
A Catholic Pope will not only have to declare VII a false Council but will have to remove from the Acta Sedis all the subsequent Magisterium based upon it as being dangerous to the Faith. I would go so far as to officially declare null and void every act and document of the post-conciliar Popes and all Vatican dicasteries since VII and start from scratch.
…an excerpt from a friend who knew Fr. Malachi Martin, personally.
“Fr. Martin had come practically full-circle from his earlier liberal days in the Vatican. It was a slow gradual transformation, but a certainty that the good Father became more and more traditional over the years, actually more traditional with the completion of each of his many best-selling books, which required of him extensive research, study and prayer, until the final book, which he never got to complete, and which may well have cost him his life. A work that was to shed light on Modernist Rome’s complicity in the building of the anti-Christian Judaic-Masonic New World Order was too much for the enemies of Christ. A book of that nature written by an author of his standing would have reached millions and therefore had to be stopped. There were many indications that the cause of Fr. Martin’s death was assassination, including the disappearance of the unfinished manuscript and his own final words that he’d been pushed down a flight of stairs while in his wheelchair. He was not able to identify the assailant who attacked from behind. His murderer may have escaped justice in time but not in eternity. God knows his identity and will exact His vengeance.”
Father Martin, may your soul rest in peace!
FYI…….The LoC’s Regnum Christi attempted to take over the Catholic Home Schooling Movement. Grass root parent run support groups were systematically infiltrated by what they called an Apostolate called TORCH.
It was exposed as well as the Legion and Maciel because some mothers got very angry. A huge hat tip to Gerald Renner (RIP) and Jason Berry. Just for the record, we know Cardinal Wuerl was so close to Maciel that he made trips to Florida when Maciel flew in to visit Tom Monaghan the pizza king at his mansion in his Ave Maria land down there. Wuerl flies down to Baptize Monaghan’s grandchildren .
Tom Monaghan is the founder of Legatus……
Oh yes, there are real Catholic men .They sure do stand up to clerical perverts.
One does not prefer.
Anti-Church and the Church are (and must be) antithetical, totally separate things.
The issue on which we differ is simply this: how can it be that these two bodies, one from Heaven and the other from hell, appear to be coexisting within the same structures?
The answer of course is that they are not ….. .
We already have Paul VI’s Novus Ordo Missae:
Devoid of a Divine Victim offered for the sins of the people, and replaced with an offering of bread and wine for no clear purpose or end.
His approval of “for you and for all men”, which fails to signify what the Sacrament effects, and therefore does not effect what it signifies.
The deletion of “Mysterium Fidei”, which denies the Faith in Transubstantiation and also makes the consecratory form into an historical narrative, manifesting a defect of intention.
Yes, he’s been depressed for a long time. I’m sure his heart is in the right place.
I have written an extensive article on the Mass (updated, based on a much older article) which Louie’s having a look at. I agree with every criticism of the Novus Ordo except that it is invalid. It may well be that Grace has been withdrawn from us for a time, none of us can know that bar a private revelation (and I certainly haven’t had one).
I think it much more likely that a new New Mass incorporating the Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists would be the Abomination of Desolation, because the Church has already judged their heresies and consequently rejected their rites.
Remember Bergolgio saying a year or two ago that a major move was required to get ecumenism going forward, ” … and I have the humility to do it”?
TGS, Her articles yes.
Go to New Engel Publishing ,send her an email with your email address explaining who you are and ask to be sent OD WATCH info.
Also under construction rising from the old Opus Libros.
https://sites.google.com/a/realcatholiconline.org/the-opus-dei-guidebook/home
BTW …that was Voris in a video at one time promoting Opus Dei under the title Real Catholic tv and the video was telling you how to know you are a REAL CATHOLIC by becoming a member of Opus Dei.
Thus, after reading the Kindle version of e book “Man Behind the Curtain” about Voris by E Michael Jones and a tad bit of in depth research……..”All The Men Behind the Opus Dei Curtain ” was written by Mrs Engel. You first need to read the short 4.49 ebook by Jones to understand what Randy is addressing in her article.
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Behind-Curtain-Michael-Homosexual-ebook/dp/B01IAIIOE2
It’s a very quick and cheap eye opening read…….
In practice it all works out the same. I’m the guy next to you at the SSPX Communion rail on Sunday.
I wish I had that certainty. How do you know for sure it’s valid? For me it’s extremely doubtful. There appears to be an irreconcilable defect of Form and a defect of Intention. This is based upon prior Church teaching, and not my personal dislike of it. And I do more than dislike it.
I’d rather have “bangers and mash”!
I am not certain. But I don;t think we are at the bottom of the abyss yet. I think there’s still a fair way to go.
Once those in the Church accepted the notion that the Church of Christ “subsists in” the Catholic Church, they ceased being members of the Catholic Church since it is heresy. The sect in Rome may be visible but they are not the Church of Christ, for they do not profess the Catholic Faith.
Don’t forget the 1968 unHoly Order Rites of Montini. If the NO Mass didnt invalidate the sacrament, the lack of Bishops and Priests sure did. No one can authoritatively declare NO sacraments invalid, however anyone with a modicum of reason and a bit of research into sacramental theology can clearly see the doubt introduced by Montini into the NO sacraments. This alone should cause great concern to traditional Catholics such that they never approach a NO “priest” for sacraments. The SSPX knew this at one point but changed its mind when the carrot of reconcilliation was dangled before their eyes.
Interview with Father Pagliarini, new Superior General of SSPX:
https://fsspx.news/en/news-events/news/interview-fr-pagliarani-superior-general-society-saint-pius-x-39366?utm_source=Society+of+Saint+Pius+X+%7C+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1c56e11ea9-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_07_13_10_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8c13eb2341-1c56e11ea9-203946641
I don’t see anything here about fighting Modernism in Rome.
Although I have no inside scoop, I read onepeterfive and respect Skojec. I suspect that Skojec believes, as I do, that Benedict was pressured to resign and intentionally did so imperfectly and, therefore, is still the real Pope. Ann Barnhardt was the one who first promulgated this theory and more and more people think it makes sense.
Skojec is honest. Let’s not eat our own, folks. I’m in over my head when I read many of these posts, as someone who has been to only one Latin Mass in my life, but I beseech everybody here not to turn on people like me (and Skojec) who may not be as far along when it comes to knowledge of just how bad things have been for how long in the Church. We are not the enemy. I was born after Vatican II and have had to find my own way in this bizarro Catholic world. Now, along comes Pope Francis, who to me seems obviously diabolical. When I come to this website, one of the only places where people seem in touch with reality about how EVIL Francis is, I feel as if I am about to be shunned for simply going to a regular Catholic Mass every week. Please, be patient and kind with Catholics like me.
Early days, early days. He’d only been elected two or three hours before this video was made.
A big welcome Utahagen! Thanks for reminding us all about the need for patience. It gets lost all too easily 🙁
There’s more conjecture in Barnhart’s thesis than there is in simply identifying Bergoglio as a manifest public heretic – which anyone is able to do – and therefore cannot be the head over which he is not even a member.
I dont know this man, Fr. Pagliarani, from Adam. Whether he is the real deal or not shouldnt take much time to ascertain. If he’s legit he’ll denounce Mr Bergoglio and his apostate church in short order. If he doesnt, than he’s simply another politician.
Thanks for the kind response! I appreciate it very much. There are many people like me out here: we grew up after Vatican II and were fortunate to have parents who stayed Catholic, sent us to Catholic schools that were good, and kept the faith. The American culture is a cesspool, but NOTHING could have prepared us for what Pope Francis is doing to the Church. We see so many of our peers who are so minimally Catholic that they have no idea how what is happening…but we do. Jesus promised that the Gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church, and we have faith. However, we can see that many — perhaps most — of our peers will be lost if Pope Francis is not stopped. The number of Catholics who go to church weekly has nosedived since Pope Francis took over. I know that statistics bear that out, but I can SEE it. It is not lost on anyone that Pope Francis does not believe in Catholicism. If the Pope is not Catholic, only the most diehard among us are remaining practicing Catholics. So, thanks so much for responding so graciously to my post. Please keep fighting and praying for ordinary Catholics. Our souls are at stake.
“The SSPX knew this at one point but changed its mind when the carrot of reconcilliation was dangled before their eyes.”
More precisely when the first conciliar “pope” was consecrated in the New Rite (Benedict) and they had to accept the Rite as valid because if it wasn’t, then then Bishop of Rome wasn’t the Bishop of Rome.
Utahagen,
I think we have all been walking in the same shoes.
TGS,
There are three office sites listed on their web pages.
TGS,
This kind of talk wreaks of Legion of Christ,RC.
Innovation for the Kingdom.
• Websites
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When your kids do bad you never turn on them, but you do discipline them. Were you ever patient with one of your kids when they did something wrong, or did did you teach them a good lesson?
Yes, even adults are oftentimes in need of being disciplined. Patience has its place but it is not meant to last forever.
Baysiders spread that rumor .
Joe G. his friend and driver spoke with me several times after Malachi died.
Malachi never considered Bayside as a true apparition.
He did however, interview Conchita of Garabandal
at one time. He also said he did not consider Medjugorje to be real.
Excellent article on all the New Apostolates
http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/2013/09/18/traditional-saints-contempt-for-fame-and-money-vs-catholic-apologetics-today/
“And then, sad to say, very few of these famous speakers are in favor of the traditional Catholic Mass or questioning of “new doctrines” or what you might call “the evolution of Catholic doctrine”. They will not criticize Vatican II or bring up the problems that it has caused in the Church. One of the reasons is that they are mostly new Catholics whom never experienced how great the Catholic Faith was before. And if you are too critical you will probably not get the paid engagement or get permission to come speak.”
The Importance of Silence, by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/cts/untitled-562.shtml
On the Value of Time, by St. Alphonsus Liguori
http://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/The%20Value%20of%20Time.html
But that’s how they pulled it off. You’ve got to hand it to them. They knew exactly what they wanted and how to get it.
Redefine the Church so as to include heretics, and then no one can refuse them submission because they retain their membership in the Church and hence their authority to teach and profess all kinds of heresies. No one can say they don’t possess legitimate jurisdiction and teaching authority just because they’re heretics. And the Salzas and Siscoes beat anyone with a stick who says otherwise. Profession of the Faith is no longer a requirement to be considered a Catholic.
The Petrine throne is the fulfilment of the Old Testament Throne of David.
Excellent!
Thank you, AJr
From our armchair warrior point of view, it’s all very simple. But in practice it’s not as easy as that. The new SG will have many things to balance. One hopes he does as you suggest, but if that doesn’t immediately happen, I certainly won’t be condemning him.
Those with the greater and the first responsibility are Cardinals Burke, Sarah, Muller, Brandmuller, Bishop Schneider and any allies.
The poster Tom said:
“But perhaps TGS and Remnant can conjure up some excuse to “resist” based on their own authority.”
Why on earth based on my own authority?! I said I have the authority of Scripture. You surely know the verses, where we are COMMANDED not to listen to those who preach a new Gospel. And we have St. Paul’s description of how he resisted St. Peter “to his face”.
This is not difficult, is it? So why would Tom, whose posts reek of a slippery snake ( = one who semantically twists and turns with everything he writes) suggest I would refuse to follow Bergoglio when he preaches / teaches a new Gospel from my own authority?
His hypocrisy is astonishing, given that sedevacantists declare Bergoglio deposed on nothing but their own authority!
That is such a good article by Fr Corapi, God rest his soul! Absolutely spot on.
Sorry, should read Fr Carota (not Fr Corapi)
There are still some ‘big subjects’ that only the very marginalised few in the traditionalist camp have had the courage to touch so far. And yet if the Church is to right Herself in Truth, those subjects will have to be tackled sooner or later.
So what sort of time frame does he get? 3 months? 6 months? one year? 5 years?
I have been reading these comments for quite some time and I am usually amused by the willingness of people here to embrace any and all conspiracy tbeories.
Sweepoutthefilth is the worst offender by far and writes posts longer than the original article that are absurd. If she is to be believed, she has been closely involved in every event of American Catholicism for the past 50 years. It seems more likely to be either a mental disorder or outright lies. It would be amusing too, if she weren’t misleading gullible people here and slandering others, both living and dead.
Or worse, Rome will insist that one of their 1968 ambiguous Rite bishops like Burke perform the ordinations in the Old Rite. This will have the same effect of introducing ambiguity into all future SSPX ordinations.
This is a radical departure from the Traditionalist Movement of the 1960s and ’70s. Fr. Paul Crane, Michael Davies and others involved in the early years of struggle did everything virtually for nothing. Nowadays, the likes of Hilary White, swanning around Italy, and other Catholic writers, require payment. Both Michael Matt and Steve Skojec have said that their costs include payment to their stable of writers.
I’ve never understood why 1P5 needs $20,000 a month to operate. How much of this is family budget, and how much is 1P5? A workman is certainly due his just wages, and Skojec has a large family, but there is a complete lack of transparency at the very least.
The odious Michael Voris with his wig and ridiculous swirly finger has perhaps shown others what can be done with slick American marketing and they feel they have to follow that lead, I don’t know.
All I can tell you is that the slicker it gets, and the more American it gets, Traditionalists in Britain and Europe are totally turned off by it and walk away.
Excellent insight TPS.
In essence TGS, we would have to erase everything the concilar church has done since 1958. As if there were no legitimate authority these last 60 years. I think there’s a word for that, sedevacatism.
Email Burke et al and ask them when they are going to do their duty.
Fr. Pagliarani’s responsibility is leadership of a relatively small organisation devoted to the formation of priests in the authentic Catholic Faith. His job is already hard enough.
I have stated many times that sedes depose no one and never claimed any authority to. We follow scripture and the magesterium of th Church. We question the validity of Bergolio’s election based on the fact he preaches a gospel other than what what was handed down.
Patience is always required with one’s children. Even the disciplining of them has to be done within that mentality, so they understand that father’s justice is not arbitrary.
When you’re dealing with criminals as you no doubt were in your Police work, of course it’s a different matter.
Dear AlphonsusJr,
Thank you for calming the ‘storm within us’…….immediately, I remembered the meditation that was send to me years ago, from a friend……which I have put out of my mind, for at least a year…..sigh!
PRECIOUSNESS OF SILENCE
‘But Jesus was silent’ Mt. 26:63
The Silence is Meekness: When you do not defend yourself against offenses; when you do not claim your rights; when you let God defend you; The Silence is Meekness.
The Silence is Mercy: When you do ot reveal the faults of your brothers to others; when you readily forgive without inquiring into the past; when you do not judge, but pray in your heart; Silence is Mercy.
The Silence is Patience: When you accept suffering not with grumbling but joyfully; when you do not look for human consolations; when you do not become too anxious, but wait in patience for the seed to germinate: The Silence is Patience.
The Silence is Humility: When there is no competition; when you consider the other person to be better than yourself; when you let your brothers emerge, grow and mature; when you joyfully abandon all to the Lord; when your actions may be misinterpreted; when you leave to others the glory of the enterprise: The Silence is Faith.
The Silence is Faith: When you keep quiet because you know that the Lord will act; when you renounce the voice of the world to remain in the presence of the Lord; when you do not labour yourself to be understood; because it is enough for you to know that the Lord understand you: The Silence is Faith.
The Silence is Adoration: When you embrace the cross without asking ‘Why?’, The Silence is Adoration.
I’m not referring to Burke etal. My question was how long are you willing to wait for Fr P to, as rich stated, “denounce Mr Bergoglio and his apostate church”? You say you won’t condemn him if he doesn’t do it “immediately”, so at what point would you? How much time will you give him to act accordingly?
I won’t condemn him at all – do you get that clearly?
Why do you load onto him this condemnation – for you are condemning him within two days of his election as SG, aren’t you?
Pressure, pressure, pressure – on all the wrong people. Just bloody well GROW UP.
TGS said: “One hopes he (Fr P) does as you suggest, but if that doesn’t immediately happen, I certainly won’t be condemning him.”
So, you did infer that you would condemn him at some point. Don’t change the subject. I am not condemning him. I am asking you a follow-up question to your post. And you are avoiding it.
Then delete the word “immediately” and you have it.
OK, so you admit you are backtracking on your earlier post.
Hardly. The use of the word “immediate” was suggested by the original “If he’s legit he’ll denounce Mr Bergoglio and his apostate church in short order”.
This level of idiotic nit-picking suggests not only a lack of facility with the English language, but a state of mind produced by the “sola scriptura”-style strait-jacket of sedevacantism.
You just know at a certain point. My time frame? I think about 6 months or so is fair.
And what does “legit” mean?
Does it mean that if Fr. Pagliarani doesn’t publicly condemn Bergoglio “in short order”, Fr. Pagliarani isn’t a priest / isn’t the SG of the Society / is outside the Church / isn’t Italian?
Please do delete as appropriate and let us know.
Tgs
Your condescension, once again, is not necessary. If you disagree with me then simply disagree with me….I wont be upset. Why do you feel the need to call people “idiotic”? I get it, you hate sede’s. We dont hate you though….calm down my friend.
Yes Alphonse, But one may ask pray tell why did you not take your own advice a few blog posts back while excoriating Blunder?
i ask, where are the REAL CATHOLIC men ? Why aren’t THEY banding together against this scourge?
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/faith-religion/2018/07/13/Grand-jury-report-could-name-90-offender-s-in-Pittsburgh-diocese-alone/stories/201807130197
Instead of hiding behind skirts and garnering the praises of a few women who cannot believe another woman has been so involved in the Church here for a very long time and has spoken out ?
You are an intelligent person. You know full well what I meant by “legit”. If I had known that this was freshman English class I would have used the proper form of the word. I never intimated that Fr. Pagliarani “isn’t a priest / isn’t the SG of the Society / is outside the Church / isn’t Italian”, did I?
TGS, and MS,
Fr B Groeschel asked for 5 grand and all expenses paid to fly in to speak at a Conference.
Sad because the poorer families , ourselves included , could not even afford to drive a few states away to be with like minded Catholics.
We walked away and eventually witnessed so many of them fall from grace.
PS that is not a wig or toupe that Voris wears.
But the poor man does exhibit facial hyperlipidemia side effect from a drug he must take. Read the e Michael Jones e book followed by Randy’s excellent online free. But to fully understand you have to read the short ebook by Jones.
https://akacatholic.com/all-the-men-behind-the-opus-dei-curtain/
TGS just can’t admit that he inferred that he would condemn Fr P .. at some point…. if he didn’t do as you suggested . So he’s gone on the offensive.
We need more Catholic men like Steve Brady and Jim Bendell to raise the banner against the homosexual clerics who eventually target the youth.
I do know of one sincere good man. His son was shot in the head on a Catholic school bus by a boy who then turned the gun on himself and committed suicide. That bot was being molested by a Fr Wellinger and Mike has been fighting ever since to expose the corruption he saw especially under the then Bishop Wuerl.
https://www.facebook.com/public/Mike-Ference
SweepINthefilth — you are like a bad rash.
Indulge yourself and scratch me , I am quite used to it !
Sorry here’s Mike’s Facebook link
https://www.facebook.com/mike.ference.7
I think MS hit the nail on the head here, “There are still some ‘big subjects’ that only the very marginalised few in the traditionalist camp have had the courage to touch so far. And yet if the Church is to right Herself in Truth, those subjects will have to be tackled sooner or later.” Nobody wants to be that few. There will be a laser focus on you until you do or say something stupid or embarrassing or inaccurate and then you will be destroyed by even your allies because you embarrassed them. I read of men in Archdiocese of Miami spending a ton of money, time and reputation on a dossier to out a sodomite click and they were successful and correct and I don’t think that anything came of it. Look at this gentleman you mentioned; they ground him down. TomA is correct, the problem lies not with addressing the sins of men but addressing the sede vacante. For that, thank you Mario Derksen. Thank you Steven Speray. Thank you Louie Verrecchio. Thank you Oakes Spaulding. I hope more men will join you. Sodomites and bad guys will always try to destroy the Church from within, but the Church needs the Pope.
You guys are full of bs. Pride and bs. You latch onto any ‘weakness’ you perceive – it’s all about point-scoring. My condescension is very-well placed, because if this kind of nonsense is what keeps you going, you are very sad individuals indeed.
So come on, Mr Patrolman, what do you mean by “legit”?
*Spalding
I remember when SSPX priests were warriors. They spoke out loudly and clearly regarding the Modernists in Rome. Gradually, they were silenced. Let us hope and pray that Father Pagliarini will turn his Soldiers of Christ into the warriors they once were. This is war and we need the weapons of war to restore all things in Christ—the mission of Archbishop Lefebvre. Holy priest are absolutely necessary, but they need to wear combat boots not shiny dress shoes worn in parades.
Precisely what I mean regards to your incessant diatribes.
You insert constantly, (an apparent lack of self- control — a gift of the Holy Ghost) by way of the faintest crack, and plow through with unnecessary gobbledygook with crazy links to defunct blogs and irrelevant youtube videos– monopolizing every thread–everyday!!
And what’s more revealing, is your answering of your own comments–repeatedly–when you receive no reply.
Push away from the keyboard, and get some air.
The scales are thick, very thick, dear SITF.
My 2 Cents, agreed but we also need husband’s and fathers to make it clear . In this I admire Steve . Good for him!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXzXYjnGd9c
( another irrelevant video for Lily Flower to ignore)
Our priests (SSPX), are true soldiers of Christ…….from the pulpit they preach the Gospel, but at the same time, they remind us to be prudent, but yet to have courage, to be humble, but not lethargic, to defend the faith when it is necessary, above all, to know our God given faith, so we’ll not be deceived by no one!, not even our neighbour. We also are reminded to pray for the Pope! Deo Gratias!
For the love of God, His Church, for saving souls, is what our dear priests have sacrificed their lives…..May God grant us many holy priests, and many holy vocations!
May God bless all soldiers of Christ!
May God bless the soldiers of Christ within the Society of Saint Pius X, and grant them holy perseverance, holy hope, for the Greater Glory of God, for the triumph of the Immaculata, for the good of savings souls, especially, their own!
Again, must you seize every possible opportunity to flaunt yourself as some sort of credible authority here??
Give it a rest, as you certainly are not.
Your own words betray you.
{Above comment addressed to sweepINthefilth}
2vermin — you play your self-perceived role here, to foment and deride, pretty well.
So, when are you ever going to post a cogent thought to the article posted vs riding coattails?
How about ‘in God’s time’ (frame), you arrogant twit.
Amen. Every single priest from the Society I have met has been marvellous. Deep yet humble, prayerful always, great with families, strong in the pulpit and kind in the Confessional.
I know other non-Society priests who are like them, but one can use of the SSPX priests the words of Chaucer’s Prologue for his Poor Parson:
This noble ensample to his sheep he yaf,
That first he wroghte, and afterward he taughte;
Out of the gospel he tho wordes caughte;
And this figure he added eek ther-to,
That if gold ruste, what shal yren do?
For if a preest be foul, on whom we truste,
No wonder is a lewed man to ruste;
And shame it is, if a preest take keep,
A shiten shepherde and a clene sheep.
Wel oghte a preest ensample for to yive,
By his clennesse, how that his sheep shold live.
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A bettre preest, I trowe that nowher non is.
He wayted after no pompe and reverence,
Ne maked him a spyced conscience,
But Cristes lore, and his apostles twelve,
He taughte, but first he folwed it him-selve.
My comments are not to disparage the priests of the SSPX, On the contrary, there were so many times I thought of them as Super Heroes, especially on pilgrimages where they fought to protect, defend and promote Tradition. They were not afraid to warn the faithful about the evils of V2 and the perverted Modernists lurking to attack the Faithful and Christ’s Church. These very same priests (and others) feel helpless because they have been gagged (their word–not mine). Doesn’t anyone here notice how soft there sermons are now? Is it only the Chapel in my area? These good priest will get back into the battle with strong leadership from their Generals. Again, not my words, but their words.
They will survive as long as they remain hyper vigilant of their seminarians. NO MORE Urrutigoitys ,Heckos, Enseys , Pfeiffers, Carrs and keep out the Marshal Roberts types and do not allow for the Cottards and Angles and employ those like the mental case who abused the Idaho boys.
…….hyper vigilance is the key.
I have a lot of respect for Fr.Ripperger, but i think he missed the boat on one salient point in particular. he stated that,”porn and impurity is more prevalent in Traditional circles than the novus ordo”. based on what? i would say. the only way to know is through the confessional,since most traditional Catholics go to confession and most novus ordo do not go at all,how can he say that with a straight face? most novus ordo Catholics don’t “struggle” with impurity,because they don’t view impurity as a sin! most novus ordo Catholics i know are sexually active,co-habitating,and laugh at the idea that porn is a sin! i wish the FSSP would stop defending the novus ordo church and start calling a spade a spade! p.s. the FSSP was set up by the Vatican to compete with the SSPX,so now you can understand why they hardly ever criticize the V2 Church.
Sorry , typo I meant Hewko and add to the list Williamson.
A friend of mine said Resistance people were outside their chapel handing out fliers ls Sunday………
This what happens when seminary rectors allow disrupting disordered men into the seminary. They strike the sheep and scatter the flock.
Hyper vigilance always.
“The thoughts of our Heart’, said Our Lord, ‘are to save souls and give them that ‘bread’ which they need lest they die of starvation.’ That is the entire program of a priestly life.”
“I do not believe that there is any vocation which brings a more profound happiness than the priesthood, even in the midst of trials – but on the condition that they live it fully, totally, and without mediocrity.”
+ Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
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The Mysteries of the Holy Rosary
Offered for the Fortification of Priests
ANNUNCIATION + For saintly Priests
VISITATION + For unworldly Priests
NATIVITY + For pure Priests
PRESENTATION + For worthy Priests
FINDING + For Priest who love the Eucharist.
AGONY + To help Priests see the enemy clearly
SCOURGING + To aid Priests who are suffering
CROWNING + To aid Priests who are scandalized
CARRYING + To aid Priests with heavy burdens
CRUCIFIXION + To gain Priestly perseverance.
RESURRECTION + To help Priests to glory only in Christ
ASCENSION + To help Priests to hope only in Christ
PENTECOST + That Priests be filled with the Holy Ghost
ASSUMPTION + That Priests may lead us to Mary
CORONATION + For an increase of holy Priests.
Archbishop Lefebvre, a devoted servant of The Holy Mother Church, pray for the holy priesthood!
“You want to show your desire for full communion? Here then, let one of our Novus bishops make new bishops for you!”
That could be a possibility, but probably not Burke.
You’d end up having the check the sacramental pedigree of each priest to be certain he is a priest. What a nuisance. But it would have to be done.
I’m never giving in to the non- Catholic wolves occupying the Vatican.
This is the firste tyme Chaucer has beene quotyd herere. Thaynke youue for that.
haha 🙂 My plesire.
For those who watch the World Cup In Russia.
Very interesting; France vs. Croatia:
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/france-vs-croatia-a-catholic-world-cup-breakdown-20465
Those days of checking every priest for his ordination and his bishop’s consecration are already here! The SSPX does not automatically conditionally ordain priests who work for them or priests who join the SSPX from the Novus Ordo rite. Because of the lack of understanding about the difference in sacramental rites, the SSPX is introducing a slow poison into its ranks and positive doubt into the minds of the faithful.
Thank you, and this https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/croatias-world-cup-soccer-coach-clings-to-the-rosary-as-he-finds-success-13738
Lake Erie, you stated that pornography is a “huge problem among traditional men.” Please do you have statistics or a factual basis for making a such a huge claim? Somehow, I doubt that this is true though I haven’t seen any truly objective proof either way. I hope one is not reading one’s own problem onto others.
The SSPX priest at our chapel is a warrior and speaks his mind loud and clear about Modernist Rome. M2C, you can’t really make such sweeping generalizations unless you’ve attended every single chapel in the world. So many rash judgments made on the combox for this website. Oi vey.
@The Great Stalin: You said this:
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“His hypocrisy is astonishing, given that sedevacantists declare Bergoglio deposed on nothing but their own authority!”
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With all due respect, I can only conclude that you are knowingly misrepresenting the position most sedes hold, including Tom A.
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I will turn it around on you and state my position this way. I ascribe to the fifth opinion of St. Robert Bellarmine, that a Pope who manifestly professes heresy ipso facto loses his office without a declaration by the Church. In fact, such a declaration, if juridical in nature, is impossible since it would imply that subordinates (e.g., the Cardinals) have jurisdiction over the Pope.
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Further, it is no longer permissible (it it ever was) to contend that an inferior entity of the Church can separate the Pope from his Office for heresy while recognizing him as Pope in view of Vatican I. Thus, those who hold the fourth opinion described by St. Robert Bellarmine and attributed to Cajetan and who claim that inferiors must perform a juridical act to separate the Pope from his office while recognizing him as Pope are heretics.
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@TGS: Do you argue that I misrepresent the fifth opinion of St. Robert Bellarmine?
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If so, please specify exactly how I do so?
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If not, is it your argument that the fifth opinion of St. Robert Bellarmine is heretical?
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When, and on what basis did it become heretical?
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Was the fifth opinion of St. Robert Bellarmine heretical on its face when he proposed it because of prior Church teaching?
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Or did it become heretical based on subsequent Church teaching?
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If it became heretical based on subsequent Church teaching, what teaching was that?
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Is it your opinion that even in view of Vatican I it is still possible for a subordinate agency of the Church to perform a juridical act whereby the Pope is separated from his Office while the subordinate agency of the Church continues to recognize the Pope as Pope?
So now you are making fun of me for being a retired Newark NJ cop. The hits never keep coming with you TGS. I actually do enjoy our discourse though….it reminds me of all of the conversations Ive had with my kids over the years. Thank you for that.
The problem is going to be when there are no SSPX Bishops to ordain new SSPX priests. Abp Lefebvre did what he did to secure proper succession. New SSPX priests “ordained” by NO bishops wont be true priests and the SSPX will fade away. The 3 existing bishops of the SSPX (4 if you count Williamson, which I do) need to get on the ball. These guys arent spring chickens.
Rich, any objective reader can see quite clearly that, once again, it is the anti-sedevacantists on this blog that continue to be the rude, disrespectful and uncharitable lot.
fast ferrari–This was not a judgement of every SSPX priest in every chapel. That’s impossible. However, I do have connections in various chapels who make the same observations. God bless your priest. You are blessed. Maybe he could lead the charge and release the gags. Remember, it is SSPX priests who say they are silenced. I wouldn’t make that generalization.
And so the first-ever edition of “The Catholic Inquisitor” is out, and very excellent it is too. This is real meat, not the soppy Catholic Herald, the liberal-progressive “Tablet”, the forum for heresy known as the “Church Times” or any other publication purporting to be Catholic.
Anyone without a subscription, get subscribing!
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They are a tiny minority. I’ve never heard of one directly let alone met any. I always check out a new priests lineage when they arrive for their assignment.
The comments in posts have gone from 20 to 50 or so to a couple of hundred since Louie announced it, have you noticed?
Yes, and great to see.
By the way, I did see your bangers & mash comment 🙂 In the latest, updated version there’s no pub food unfortunately.
Stink Flower ,
Not one of your comments have contributed to conversation or dialogue here. Your ONLY posts insult and attack other individuals.
Post something of substance instead of nasty comments and maybe someone will pay attention .
However , I cannot help thinking you will go off on an insult tangent with anyone who might disagree with you.
Do you have anything civil to post?
The most OBVIOUS poster with the lack of self control is this one who posts nothing to contribute to dialogue or to educate . It posts only endless snide remarks to shut other commentators down. It isn’t going to work.
“Fleur de Lis July 14, 2018
2vermin — you play your self-perceived role here, to foment and deride, pretty well.
So, when are you ever going to post a cogent thought to the article posted vs riding coattails?”
TGS, Did you receive you “Inquisitor” via snail mail or email?
I am anxiously awaiting my copy.
Digital copy, by email. There are a fair few hundred emails to go out, I’m sure yours is on its way.
Thank you for the link . God Bless
Preserve what you have left for surely it will die….
TGS, Thanks for you reply.
Louie has been gracious enough to allow for off topic comments on his blog.
I for one appreciate this and as my moniker implies, I am MOST concerned about the priestly pederast plague that has attacked the church militant’s Body of Christ on earth.
Since as an Eastern Catholic I have yet to read this site is solely for members of SSPX , I am happy to see that all Catholics are welcome to post and because of this, I believe Louie’s readership has markedly increased .
Countless people have left attendance in parish churches not only because of the perverts, but because they realize the inept lack of Leadership and promotion of real Truth and transparency coming from the Hierarchy as a result of the debacle of allowing the homosexual clerical collective to thrive within.
I have yet to see our Blog Host ban anyone aside from one man whose foul language was offensive to any person with a sense of decency.
It is my hope that a lively conversation and dialogue will remain on this site , disagreement and debate yes , but free from personal attacks on any one poster. It truly displays a lack of intellect to engage otherwise, tempting one to lower oneself to respond in like manner with name calling. Me Culpa.
You my dear are a prime example as to why many have left the SSPX like Ganganelli once said, because of the air of pride and self righteousness they felt coming from women at one their chapels.
Your name calling and substanceless posts bespeak of a jealously and inferiority complex of the worst kind.
typo.”Mea”
“Writing in the August 2008 issue of Si Si No No, Fr. Pagliarani said of Vatican II:
The very finality of the Council, convoked with the explicit intention not to define truths of faith and not to condemn error (cf. Gaudet Mater Ecclesia), inaugurated a magisterium with a novel method and approach… the Second Vatican Council was convoked not to define dogmas, correct errors, or condemn doctrinal deviations as in the past, but to bond with the modern world. This decision to leave aside any intention of imposing certain truths of faith meant that the Council was intended to abstain from teaching in the objective, traditional, and magisterial sense of the term.”
I just came across this website: “Vatican II-Voice of the Church” owned by “the Church’s English Voice-Bishop Christopher Butler, OSB” whose “website benefits from articles and essays by those who experienced the Council first-hand and especially Cardinal König of Vienna and the English Benedictine Christopher Butler. Both were distinguished scholars, Council fathers and members of the influential Council Theological Commission.”
If you are interested in how the machinations of the “reformers”, “innovators”, and radicals came to their success in changing the Church (for the worse), this website is very interesting indeed.
A very gracious comment and I agree with all of it. Yes, I know, I’m as bad or worse than most here. We all need to give a Christian example to the readers.
Is The Great Stalin a contributor?
Thank you, From Poland. I had not seen that correlation of Mysteries of the Rosary to the various intentions for the priesthood. Is it something from Archbishop Lefebvre?
Our Lady of Mt Carmel, pray for our priests and protect them!
We only need to strive to avoid Hell, that is the only reason any of us exist to begin with. Our sole purpose in being born is to not go to Hell.
Avoiding hell is a glass half empty position. I’d like to make it into Heaven. And part of that is by giving a good Christian example. These aren’t mutually exclusive!
Of course they are mutually exclusive! It is the most mutually exclusive proposition faced by man. Heaven or Hell. To strive for one is to reject the other.
Yes, and it’s the same fewer than 10 nutcases. Most of the comments are from the demented sweepoutthefilth and Blunderbuss’ antagonists remarks have been replaced by The Great Stalin egging on sweepoutthefilth. The lunatics aren’t proliferating, nor are they running the asylum. They’re just getting much, much louder.
I have never been able to understand the view held by some swivel-eyed Catholics that Bishop Fellay was about to ‘sell-out’ the Society, nor why Bishop Williamson felt it necessary to try to ape the Society with his ridiculous ‘Resistance’, which has been the expected total failure. Such a view ignores Fellay’s many statements and actions that prove the opposite, most famously when the Vatican at the last minute tried to foist onto the Society a new set of demands which were summarily rejected.
Certainly the election of Fr. Davide Pagliarani will please those opposed to any rapprochement. My own view of this is simply that the Fellay tenure was a great one in many ways for the Society, and the discussions with Rome had a very great advantage – that of showing mainstream Church people what the Society is, and why it takes the position it does. Both came out of the whole process with reputation much enhanced.
There was never any danger that the Society would allow itself to be FSSP-ised, not only because of the human intelligence of its leaders, and their lack of naivety, but because Our Lord at this special moment in history won’t allow it to be.
It’s a very good source, where the mind of the enemy is on open display.
Tom, you are such a spluttering idiot that you reach for your keyboard even before you comprehend what has been written. You show your state of mind very clearly by doing so, and it does not compliment you at all. Try to slow down and THINK before your fevered imagination takes over your madly-typing fingers.
My post very clearly says that offering a good Christian example and getting to Heaven are not in opposition to each other, as Rich’s tart comment suggests.
Please, slow down, take a deep breath, do some stretching exercises or something. But stop these very foolish, even lunatic attacks.
TGS=Your comment doesn’t sound like a good Christian example. Maybe you should take a deep breath also.
The only thing I would disagree with you on this is that Bishop Fellay did drop the mandatory conditional ordination of a diocesan priest who joined the Society. That sets a terrible precedent which needs to be fixed.
2Cents, it is wisdom to stop digging when you are in a hole.
Defending your fellow sedevacantists is laudable in a sense, but maybe you would do better to point out to posters like Tom, who are permanently consumed by a great tension of opposition, either asking inane rhetorical questions in the hope that someone will take the bait so they can unload their broadsides of cut and pastes, or (as in this case) leaping for the Smith & Wesson because they cannot process basic English, that the average reader comes to see that on the important question for them, that of sedevacantism, not only are they poor authorities, they are in fact no authorities at all.
I am not interested in Tom’s feelings, to be honest. But some tough love may make him grow up a little.
Just hours after admitting he is “as bad if not worse”. Makes me wonder just how sincere that comment was in the first place.
I didn’t know that the Society did conditionally ordain such men. If so, and it has been dropped, I agree with you, it should be restored.
Vermont, Rich, Tom, 2Cents:
This interaction is at an end. Let the reader be the judge.
Perhaps the sedevacantists’ core position is that the Catholic Church has changed into a heretical, bastard Church and is thus divorced from, has separated from, Christ. I am very sympathetic to this view in many ways, but as readers might now know, my position is that they have gone far too far and have put themselves in a state of schism and even heresy. Why? Because their stance ipso facto rejects the Catholic dogma that the Church is a visible institution which is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic which is ruled by a Pope.
That the Catholic Church still exists, not just among the number of the baptised who hold to the integral Catholic Faith as they say, but in today’s institution called the Catholic Church, can be proved.
BXVI once said that for him, the proof of the Church’s Divine foundation was to be found in the miracles that litter the Church, and in its music. He surely didn’t mean the muzac of the modern Church, but let’s allow that to pass and think about a miracle.
The post below this describes one that I know about because I was in a small way involved with it. For me, it shows for a fact that Christ is still with His Church and operates to build it and safeguard it even when most of its Ministers, great and small, have forsaken Him. Therefore my stance that the Church and the Anti-Church exist at one and the same time is shown I think to be the correct one.
Did you ever look into the Casiciacum theses? Some sedes hold this position because it addresses some of the issues you bring up.
Azerbaijan is a country in the South Caucasus, bordered by Russia and Georgia to the north and by Iran to the south. While never a Catholic country (it has an overwhelmingly Shiite Muslim majority), there was until the mid-1920s a thriving Catholic population of some 2,500, served by several Polish priests, most of them living in Baku, the capital city, located on the coast of the Caspian Sea.
I lived in Baku from the spring of 1997 to the end of 1998, when I moved on to Kazakhstan. There were several thousand British and other expats in Baku at that time, the vast majority working at AIOC, the BP-led consortium of oil companies beginning the development of Azerbaijan’s offshore oil fields.
Two thousand five hundred Catholics I recall, and I think some six or so priests. The Soviets shot all the priests (Father Simon or Stepan was the senior of them), and the laity were scattered throughout the camps of the GULAG. Very few came back. May God rest all their souls.
With this Soviet persecution, Catholicism was extinguished in the country until the very late 1980s, when a group of Polish ship-builders working in Baku’s yards wrote to the Vatican asking for a priest to be sent to them.
A priest was sent: Father Jerzy Pilus, a young Pole ordained near Krakow, I think. The problem was, he was several years too late. Father arrived, but the workers had already long since left for Poland following the fall of Soviet Communism in 1991. He was on his own in a former Soviet republic, the population nominally Muslim with a smattering of Russian Orthodox, not a single Catholic to be found, absolutely virgin missionary territory. His nearest backup was in another country, in Georgia to the north. Father became disheartened and seriously thought about leaving.
And then happened a series of providential events that led to a fully functioning Catholic parish in Baku and, later, even a visit from Pope St. John Paul II to the country.
One day, Father Pilus was in an open-air market (dressed in civilian clothes – clerical dress would have been inadvisable, even dangerous), buying some cheap vegetables. He went up to a stall, and the stall holder, a lady, asked him if he was Russian. He replied (in Russian) that no, he was Polish. She asked him what he did. “You are working in the shipyard, I suppose,” she said. “No, I am a Catholic priest,” answered Father Pilus.
He told me later that the woman physically jumped backward as if electrocuted. When she’s calmed down, she tearfully told him that her mother was very aged and near death. She was one of the very few Catholics who had returned alive from Stalin’s camps, and all she wanted was to see a priest before she died. Desperate, she was praying constantly for this grace, but of course it was impossible for her daughter to arrange this for her. She asked if Father Pilus would come to her apartment, where her mother was bedridden, that very minute.
Father Pilus had found his first Catholic. He heard the old mother’s Confession (all Baku Azeris speak Russian) and gave her Holy Communion and the Last Rites. She died peacefully in the Faith some two or three days later.
Father told me this story later, and I remember my astonishment and tears. Let us ponder this woman’s faith: she had not been able to receive the Sacraments for more than sixty years. She had lived her Catholic faith silently and without any human support throughout the time of Stalin, throughout the decades of atheism, and of course Our Lord Jesus Christ had not forgotten her for a single second.
So Father had found one Catholic, but she was now dead. What on Earth was he going to do now? Well, he didn’t know it, but he was soon going to have a parish to run.
I was in a bar one day and heard an English voice. A young man and I got chatting. He was in Baku for a short time on some assignment and asked me if I knew a Father Jerzy Pilus. I replied that I was a Catholic myself but no, I’d never heard of him. He explained that the Nunciature in Georgia had told him that there was a Father Jerzy in Baku that they didn’t have a phone number for him. I had no idea how to help.
I remember that a few days later, I called a BP client on the phone about some matter or other, and we fell into conversation – just small talk. I mentioned the fact of Father’s existence somewhere in the city, and, remarkably, a phone number was unearthed. How and by whom I cannot recall. The whole thing seemed utterly bizarre.
I called the number and got a Pole speaking very bad English. My Russian at that time was awful, but we somehow understood each other enough so that Mass was said two Sundays later in a classroom of the British-American school for about fifty expats.
Father had himself a parish. He was so very, very happy. As for me, I was conscious that I had been used, along with several others, as a small cog in what seemed to us all to be God’s design.
I moved to Kazakhstan in 1998, but I stayed in touch with Father. He eventually established a proper legal parish, after facing vast difficulties from the state authorities and the Islamic hierarchy. There were converts. Later, around 2000, the Salesian Fathers took over from him and he became the parish priest of Gori (Stalin’s birthplace) in Georgia. He had to return to Poland for some time, utterly exhausted and ill. Recovered, the last I know of him is that he was a few years ago the only Catholic priest in Muslim Abkhazia, one of the two Georgian regions conquered by the Russians in 2008.
Please pray for Father Jerzy Pilus. And remember that Christ does not abandon His Church even when most of His Ministers abandon Him.
Just for the record==I am not a sede. I am a neo-sede (same as Louie) with regard to Bergoglio.
Does the SSPX still offer conditional Confirmation for those who were confirmed in the V2 New Rite. I know they did that in the past.
I am not a sede. I am a Catholic. The chair is obviously vacant. People are proposing on here and other sites (I even saw this in a Priest’s article on Lifesite) that the Church is the Body of Christ and the Body of the Anti-Christ, that she holds the truth and the lie. I’ve asked before if The Great Stalin is a contributor to The Catholic Inquisitor and I have received no response. Mr. Verrecchio, is The Great Stalin a contributor? I urge every Catholic to be very cautious, look to timeless Church teachings and pray the Rosary. There is great deception underway right now. My2cents, SSPX does still offer conditional Confirmation.
Dear Louie,
Congratulations on your First Edition of ‘The Inquisitor’. May His Sacred Heart keep you, and the Immaculata protect you!
My only concern, and prayer for you is, that you’ll not allow the spread of ‘sedevacantism’……..example, Dr. Chojnowski who has recently come out strong in favor of the anti-Catholic ‘sede insanity.’ Not only my opinion, but of many, these ‘Catholics’ are the latest casualties of Satan’s war on the Church, for the Devil has intensified his attacks on traditional Catholics and has won many over to his side – especially through sedevacantism………prayers for them are most urgent.
God save us, for many Catholics are perishing.
Our Lady of Fatima, ora pro nobis!
Great story recalled above !
When you sit back and say to yourself, “This is truly a bizarre turn of events.” , you can almost always trace the Finger of God in it.
Even when they appear negative with prayer and trust, God is there.
I would also like to request prayers for those families who have joined Fr Hewko and Pfieffer’s Resistance .
There we find also sincere Catholics searching for Truth. Unfortunately , I have good reason to believe they do so at the peril of their own children. More than a few of the priests have backgrounds that are less than pristine regarding child pornography and same sex attraction. Sadly , when parents are isolated for a “cause” within a small militant group they and their children are less apt to vocalize anything untoward that has happened within said group , for the sake of the over riding “cause”.
Please pray for these families, especially their children.
At least Randy Engel pretends to have documentation of the ridiculous mud she slings. You’re publicly slandering a group of priests as child molesters and child pornography readers based upon “good reasons” you claim to have. There is something very wrong with you, and Fleur de Lis is right to call you out. I have no love for Hewko, the SSPX, SSPV, or any schismatic group, but you are committing a very serious sin and also libel by making these sorts of claims.
Pause and prayerfully consider what would happen to you or your husband if a garrulous old witch started making similar claims about YOU on the internet and YOUR friends and neighbors and the members of your parish saw their slander.
Shame on you.
Hey SOTK, stop right there. You are right on sources, I’ve warned about that myself, but I cannot let your description of the SSPX as a schismatic group go unchallenged. There are numerous quotes from BXVI and Cardinals explicitly saying that they are not schismatics. Not only that, but does the Church grant the right to hear Confessions and conduct marriages to schismatics? No.
Melanie, you are off your head. Bonkers.
“I am not a sede … The chair is obviously vacant.”
Do you not see how crazy this sentence is?
As to that article in Lifesite news, I read it two days ago and was feeling very smug, seeing that my own thesis of Church opposed by Anti-Church was exactly that of the priest author.
Try not to let your horror at what is happening in the Church, which is 100% shared by me, turn you into a paranoid nutter.
@The Great Stalin: You said this:
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Perhaps the sedevacantists’ core position is that the Catholic Church has changed into a heretical, bastard Church and is thus divorced from, has separated from, Christ. I am very sympathetic to this view in many ways, but as readers might now know, my position is that they have gone far too far and have put themselves in a state of schism and even heresy. Why? BECUASE THEIR STANCE IPSO FACTO REJECTS THE CATHOLIC DOGMA THAT THE CHURCH IS A VISIBLE INSTITUTION WHICH IS ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC WHICH IS RULED BY A POPE.” [Empasis added]
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@TGS: Is is your position that those who believe that the Mystical Body of Christ can be obscured in the World from those who are seeking Her by those who sin against Her visible bonds, e.g., heretics and schismatics, are heretics themselves? Is it you position that the Mystical Body of Christ is perfectly visible in an unwavering manner at all times to those who are seeking Her? If that is your position, can you provide citations to Church teaching that this is how the doctrine of visibility is to be understood?
“Is is your position” should be “Is it your position”.
How dare you call me bonkers? You are an offensive and horrible man. Whether the seat of Peter is vacant or occupied does not change that I am a Catholic. I can not believe that Mr. Verrecchio is accepting your contributions to such an extremely important publication and then allowing you to go through this comment box insulting Catholics who do not share your ridiculous view. I am not disposed to believe that just bc someone is published he is correct nor that just bc someone is a Priest he is correct. I’m disappointed with this turn of events.
When was the last time the SSPX submitted to the authority of Rome? Hanging pictures of the Popes they ignore is not submission. It is cognitive dissonance. There is a schism between those that call themselves traditional catholics and those that accept V2. To claim unity of faith between all the various factions is lunacy.
My language was very precise. I didn’t say “any *other* schismatic group.” If you must insist upon SSPX not being schismatic, fine. There have been no formal statements from Rome pro or con, and they handle the SSPX with kid gloves anyway.
I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that you focus on that minor point and ignore the filth someone else is “sweeping in”. Any ally is Better than no ally.
Louie Verrecchio and his Sedevacantist combox mob are leading naive people astray, and into schism like a pack of dime-store knockoff lay Lefebvres. You’re aiding and abetting sweep, who is doing all this and also layering on gossip, slander, and lies. All of you are going to have much to explain in the next life.
Last time I checked, Rome no longer condemns schismatics or heretics. Only homophobes and xenophobes.
@Sweepoutthekilts: What is your position on so-called Pope Francis? Do you believe him to be a manifest heretic? Do you profess the same “faith” that Pope Francis professes?
WRONG Skilts on every count.
Randy pretends NOTHING.
All the documentation is in her book.Documentation on Urrutigoity is there and in court documents as it is with Ensey and others. Documentation on Roberts can be found on line and by writing to the Oder he was last with. Documentation on Tetherow can be had by writing to the Diocese of Scranton.
Keep slinging mud to defend these men and place children in harms way. Williamson also knows who is who as he did with Urrutigoity.
Shame on you and your ilk who cannot see the perverts for the collar.
Furthermore Skilts , maybe you are just a stink flower by another name? Your argument is used by Catholics of all stripes who refuse to recognize what is right under their nose.
“https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer-mentions-a-fr-tetherow-who/15/”
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-cordaro-not-a-priest/60/
You know damn well I’m not defending or even talking about any priest convicted or arrested or defrocked for molesting kids. You constantly make unsubstantiated accusations against groups of priests, individual priests, and other individuals. Sometimes you say that “you know”. Who the hell are you that you are friends with all the Bishops and Malachi Martin and know all of the secrets of all these hundreds of priests and laypeople? People here have had enough of your storytelling.
You directed people to a book by E. Michael Jones. He called out Randy Engel for writing false things. She makes up connections between things to prove ideas she already has in her head. That is not journalism.
You, on the other hand, are just an arrogant LIAR who makes up stories and sweeps in your own filth with thousands of LYING stories about things you claim to know. LIAR.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/16/fugitive-fathers-two-priests-have-been-suspended-since-globalposts-investigation-globalpost/74043692/
http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t194-pedophile-priests-in-tradition
SKILTS, you are so in the dark you see nothing.
Read the ebook by Jones and you will understand why Randy wrote her article ,”All the men behind the Opus Dei Curtain.
That is what I wrote and yes of course Jones tried to deny it all but the clear evidence is there she was exactly correct.
You’re blabbing away in circles under a different pseudonym minus any educational background on the topic. My guess is you are just another Fr Hewko ole lady’s click member running after the priest who has the wool pulled over your eyes and dazzled by his tinted contact lenses and cologne. He has praised Urrutigoity ( his best friend) and continues to do so and he like Marshall Roberts too……why? Just ask yourself why all these so called men are in one big butt kissing group? Why does Hewko now wear a baretta in pictures after real men laughed at his long side hairs being extended over his bald head and glued down in two giant hand arranged finger curls. Real men do not go to that much trouble ONLY diabolical narcissists .
Learn how to use the internet and the phone. Write to their former Superiors and ask why they were made to leave. Write to Christ the King and ask about Roberts. Urrutigoity was really asked to leave because he was subverting the SSPX and recruiting friends from the Winona seminary. Hewko did say he planned to join him at SSJ but then the accusations came out………Hence, the so called Resistance. These men do NOT want Bishops who will call them out for any sexual misconduct !
Wake up and smell the real flowers Fluer and the real skunks.
This has nothing to do with Hewko. I already told you I don’t care for him, the SSPX, the SSPV, or any other branch or variation. This is about your constant LYING and making up stories. Some of us have had enough. I am not Fleur but I agree with Fleur.
You literally quoted a Trad Flat Earth forum as a source. You are therefore clearly insane and would probably be institutionalized if you were evaluated. You are also a LIAR and a SLANDERER.
A few more pennies for your thoughts Skilts
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer-supports-fr-urrutigoity-yep/
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-marshall-roberts-with-the-resistance/
No you are Fleur because she is a very angry person .Either that or you are one of them.
@sweepthefilth
I knew Fr.Cordaro. He’s been to my house for dinner few times over the years (I have no contact with him for about 5 years), for we no longer live in the same area. There was some ‘gossip or slander’ (God Knows), about him, that came to my attention. Of course, I got concerned, so I got in touch with a friend of mine (a Vietnam vet, a true soldier of Jesus Christ), who assured me, that he knew about it for few years already, he had an investigation done by his very good friend NY cop…….and Fr., Cordaro was completely innocent. Apparently, when he decided to offer the Tridentine Mass instead of the Novus Ordo, the enemy has viciously persecuted him, spreading lies that will not die till today…….Ave Maria!
I am speaking out only, because that is what I was told, and I believe……as God is my witness.
Our Father who art in heaven is a very Just Father, He Knows who is who, and judges accordingly…..
From Poland,
What was the Fr Cordaro’s first name that you knew?
I know about Urrutigoity from friends whose children were in St Gregory’s School and from an SSPX Deacon who knew him Ensey and Hewko and several of the others very well. I also am in touch daily with the lawyer who defended the victims . I also knew Fr Munkelt who testified on behalf of the victims when he was Deacon Munkelt at Fr Ashley’s chapel.He posted the same stating he now has two little boys and he would not let these priests near them on CathInfo some time back.
Hewko I know about from a dear friend and from three single young men who were in out chapel. The lawyer , Fr Munkelt , the former Deacon and the two other young men now in their forties are all upstanding Traditional Catholic men. Fr William Ashley who knew of my experience with homosexuals and pederasty, asked me to take a priest out to lunch and screen him as he had come to his TLM chapel in 2000 asking to be given a job teaching young children their catechism.
Reluctantly I did what the priest asked and shortly realized what he was.
Fr showed him the door. I informed my long time friend Mrs Engel who to the best of her knowledge believed same priest was a good persecuted priest. Randy takes notes. Years later when I discovered a family who were victimized by this same priest , Fr Anthony Cipolla, I put Randy in touch with the mother of the victims.
Randy wrote an excellent expose on him. According to the family who recently testified at the Grand Jury Investigation , Randy’s excellent documentation was used by the Attorney General’s office in court during the Inquiry.
For Skilts and anyone else who chooses to call me a liar , I do not mind.
I have been called much worse in my lifetime .But if I can warn one parents to be more vigilant of their child around a suspected or convicted priest I will. It is well worth being called names.
Yes I am fully aware Skilty and prepared to meet Our Lord to stand trial in Heavenly judgement for the sin of slander hurled at me by mere mortals.
I believe the scales are tilted far in my favor when accusations of slander are thrown, Lily Flower.
Calm down, don’t give me all these names, for I cannot even follow all what you write. How you even keep truck of all the information……your mind must be spinning…..so sorry.
I only wrote, what I heard and that I knew him, as Fr. John. J. Cordaro.
I rest my case…..
God bless you!
This is what you wrote on June 28th, 2018:
“I always enjoyed your comments on 1P5 too, oh Great Stalin! Now, it’s just Rod H and Margaret.”
Your paranoia is obvious and I stick to what I wrote. You are bonkers, evidently half-mad. In fact, this combox is full to the brim of nut-jobs and wackos.
Just for the record, The Great Stalin is NOT a contributor to The Catholic Inquistor, got it?
Now back into the road with you Melanie. The locals miss your evening duck-quacking performance.
At least he has no time for the Scots. Can’t be all bad.
Are you kidding me? Great Stalin, you must be a pathological liar. Are you impersonating Benedict Carter because your comment to Tom earlier was this article. I don’t like you and you are a liability to any serious publication. Please reconsider this author, Mr. Verrecchio.
https://onepeterfive.com/father-pilus-church-azerbaijan/
I never knowingly write what I cannot hold to. TGS certainly does not write for Louie’s paper. BC on the other hand may.
Apologies From Poland the first sentence was only directed at you. the continued post was for “Skilts” aka Fleur who is so hate filled she/he spilled his venom all over the blog.
Based on what? A simple warning for parents to watch out for their children and prayers that they do so.
Based on what? Court documents and testimonies by others including priests and Deacons .
I have seen first hand what the sodomite pederasty does to children and their families. Obviously other people defend it as lies instead.
………….is that something to blow a gasket over?
I don’t know what you’re talking about but your behavior in this comment box has tainted my view of The Catholic Inquistor which is certainly not a good thing. If you are deliberately attempting to torpedo a project that you are involved with, that is just so terribly unethical that you should have no place to go w/further publishing exploits. If you are not Benedict Carter than you shouldn’t present his article as your post. You are most certainly doing something dishonest here and I’m not amused.
For those who do not believe Mrs Engel’s Journalistic integrity a little of her background.
“Randy Engel, one of the nation’s top investigative reporters, began her journalistic career shortly after her graduation from the University of New York at Cortland, in 1961. A specialist in Vietnamese history and folklore, in 1963, she became the editor of The Vietnam Journal, the official publication of the Vietnam Refugee and Information Services, a national relief program in South Vietnam for war refugees and orphans based in Dayton, Ohio. She recorded for the Voice of America and Radio Saigon. In 1970, she received the Distinguished Service Medal for “exceptional and meritorious service to Vietnam.”
In addition to her writings and relief work on behalf of the VRIS, in the mid-1960s, Randy Engel developed an intense interest in pro-life issues including population control, abortion and eugenics, putting her on the ground floor of the emerging Pro-Life Movement. In 1972, she founded the U.S. Coalition for Life in Pittsburgh, Pa., an international pro-life research and investigative agency, and began editing the USCL’s official publication, the Pro-Life Reporter. Her four-year study on the eugenic policies and programs of the March of Dimes titled “Who Will Defend Michael?” quickly put the USCL on the map as the finest pro-life research agency in the U.S.
Her investigative findings documenting the rise of the federal government’s anti-life programs at home and abroad served as the basis for her testimony before Congressional hearings in the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. Randy Engel’s groundbreaking investigative findings related to US/AID abortion and sterilization programs in Latin and South America, Asia and Africa were instrumental in bringing about major pro-life changes in the Agency for International Development’s foreign assistance programs.
Many of her original research publications for the USCL including “A March of Dimes Primer — the A-Z of Eugenic Abortion,” and “The Pathfinder Fund — A Study of US/AID Anti-Life Funding” have become pro-life classics and continue to enjoy wide circulation.
In 1995, the veteran pro-life researcher exposed the long-standing eugenic abortion record of Dr. Henry Foster, President Bill Clinton’s nominee for U.S. Surgeon General, resulting in the Senate’s failure to approve the nomination.
Sex Education — The Final Plague, Randy Engel’s first full-length book on the sexual conditioning of Catholic school children was published by Human Life International (Baltimore, MD) in 1989 and later by Tan Publishers (Rockville, IL). Her second book, The McHugh Chronicles — Who Betrayed the Pro-Life Movement? was published in 1997, while she continued to gather researching material and conduct interviews for The Rite of Sodomy.
Over the last forty years, Randy Engel’s articles, have appeared in numerous Catholic publications including Liguorian Magazine, Our Sunday Visitor, The Wanderer, Catholic Family News and the Homiletic and Pastoral Review. She has received numerous awards for excellence in investigative journalism including the prestigious Linacre Quarterly Award for Distinguished Writing by the Catholic Medical Association.
Meticulous documentation and references and easy readability are the hallmarks of Randy Engel’s investigative writings, and The Rite of Sodomy — Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church is no exception to the rule. The 1,318-page text contains over 3000 endnotes, a bibliography of over 350 books, is fully indexed and reads like a top-flight mystery thriller — except that it is not fiction — it is true.”
FYI
NOTICE
This notice is to inform the Christian faithful that John
J. Cordaro, formerly a priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph,
was dismissed from the Oblates by their Superior General on
August 8, 1989. He currently has no faculties whatsoever to
minister in the Catholic Church. Because he has no faculties,
he is forbidden to function as a priest in the Roman Catholic
Church. Furthermore, the Catholic faithful should not receive
the sacraments from Mr. Cordaro or attend his celebration of
the sacraments, wherever they may be held.
http://www.dioceseofscranton.org/official-notice-regarding-john-j-cordaro/
Posted on: 03-3-2011 Posted in: News
John J. Cordaro, a resident of Scranton and a former priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph, has been forbidden to exercise priestly ministry. Catholics of the Diocese of Scranton should be mindful that, in view of this prohibition, they may not approach this person for any of the sacraments.
Reverend Brian J. W. Clarke
Vicar General
Diocese of Scranton
“You are most certainly doing something dishonest here and I’m not amused.”
Only in your mind. Nowhere else.
That you are not amused is clear – I’ve hardly seen a single post here on the entire site where the poster wasn’t full of bitterness. You all egg each other on to ever greater heights of anger and indignation. It’s like scratching a scab so that it never heals.
I used to be the same, and I know how one’s peace of mind can be so easily destroyed by these comboxes. I apologise Melanie for my rudeness to you, I’m sure you have a good heart and are just sick of the state of the Church. But we cannot wallow in it day after day without being negatively affected. Try not to be so suspicious.
I knew Fr Munkelt as Deacon Munkelt at the chapel served by Fr Wiliam Ashley in NJ. Two of the most upright Catholic priests on the face of this planet. Here Fr Munkelt is deposed regarding the activities of Fr Urrutigoity and friends at the St Gregory Academy.
Snippet from Fr. Munkelt letter about pederasty in the SSJ
” The use of the traditional liturgy is a great good indeed, but it is no good at all to virtue or to the salvation of one’s soul if having it means turning away from the revolting systemic abuse of a spiritual
office for sexual ends. The Society of St. John is up to its eyeteeth in that abuse, and as such is mounting a direct assault on the priesthood of God itself.
No genuine traditionalist would say: ‘We need the traditional Mass, Don’t anger the bishop, so what if some boys get abused, as long as it’s not my son!!’ Wherever gross negligence lies in this regard, it must be
brought to justice. The Church of Christ, namely the holy Catholic Church, and the traditional movement will be the better for it. Specuulum Iustitiae, ora pro nobis.”
~ Rev. Richard A. Munkelt, Ph.D
Yet another pedo priest that Fr. Pfeiffer and Hewko have gathered unto .
into their Resistance Movement.
“Convicted in 2005, and like a cockroach that hides in the darkness, Tetherow won’t go away. The Diocese issued warnings to the faithful about him in 2006, 2011, and most recently showing he was laicized in 2015:
http://www.dioceseofscranton.org/notice-regarding-dismissal-of-gabriel-tetherow/
Posted on: 03-4-2015 Posted in: News
This notice is to inform the Christian faithful that Virgil Bradley “Gabriel Francis” Tetherow, formerly a priest of the Diocese of Scranton, was dismissed from the clergy and returned to the lay state by the Holy Father, Pope Francis, on January 23, 2015. Mr. Tetherow was ordained a priest of the Diocese of Scranton June 29, 2002 and for one year after that was part of a private association known as the Servants Minor of Saint Francis, which was dissolved on November 17, 2003. In January 2005, Bishop Joseph F. Martino removed Mr. Tetherow from any public ministry when the Diocese of Scranton learned that he had been arrested for possession of child pornography, for which Mr. Tetherow was later sentenced to two years’ probation. Although resident in a rectory in Tobyhanna at the time, Mr. Tetherow never had a parish assignment in the Diocese of Scranton. Because he has been removed from the clerical state, Virgil Bradley “Gabriel Francis” Tetherow is forbidden to function as a priest in the Catholic Church and should no longer present himself as such.”
@SOTF;
Yes, I have read this before…….what does it prove…….NOTHING!
You, who knows all about the abuse, unjustly accused priests, you who knows all, and who did what and to whom, should know better, how many priests have been accused unjustly, how many have been in jail and how many have been killed.
Is there one, who has escaped God’s justice?
Rev. Brian Clarke?, I pray that his conscience is clean!
Hey TGS, you never answered if you ever looked into the Casiciacum theses. I would be interested in your comments. I am not sold on it but do find it compelling.
Skilts or Fleur or whatever you are calling yourself .
You stated, “You literally quoted a Trad Flat Earth forum as a source. You are therefore clearly insane and would probably be institutionalized if you were evaluated. You are also a LIAR and a SLANDERER”
I challenge anyone here to prove to me the title of this website discredits the bona fide links herein.
http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t194-pedophile-priests-in-tradition
If you do not care to do so, read the documentation on these so called “priests” invited into the Resistance below.
Skilts and Fleur whomever doth protest too much ! Stating he/ she does not like the SSPX or Hewko ‘s Resistance while calling me insane and a Liar and a Slanderer, discrediting Randy Engel as a Journalist etc.
I hope the documentation below suffices .
Now we should ask what really is your purpose in posting here Skilty? You do not like this blog or it’s host. You do not like contributors to Louie’s new newspaper . You really hate me .
Guess what? I do not give a flying fig and I do tell the TRUTH because I have nothing o gain or lose in doing so except before Our Lord and Savior whom I love very much!
Keep attacking me and I will post more warnings about those pederasts you choose to defend in your attempt to discredit me..
Sweepoutthekilts: “There have been no formal statements from Rome pro or con”
Not for any of these so-called “schismatic groups” as a matter of fact. And yet, you and your follow anti-Catholics, think you have the right to judge these groups as schismatic.
Tom, am not interested in discussing any theory that seeks to undermine the dogma of the Church. You lot are still at it with your barrages of rhetorical questions designed to reel in the unwary. There are many things to discuss other than sedevacantist fantasies.
I haven’t ruled it out either.
Interesting. I am not the one undermining the dogma on the Papacy. That would be you. Teaching that we Catholics have to sift what the Pope says and accept only those teachings we think are Catholic and reject those we think are not Catholic. You have rendered the Papacy irrelevant yet accuse me of undermining dogma.
Melanie, if the rabid anti-sedevacantist, The Great Stalin, is a contributor to Louie’s publication there is no way in heck I would subscribe. Of course, it wouldn’t make sense for Louie to have him as a contributor because it appears Louie leans sede too.
Mate, don’t you understand? I’m not biting.
What about Church history? Sacred music? Who’s your favourite saint, and why? Who’s your favourite Catholic historical figure, and why? What’s the best work of devotion you’ve ever read?
You see, so many useful and good things to discuss.
You’re telling me 2Vermont. Check out this article from 1P5 by Benedict Carter, definitely a contributor. You tell me. Is this article not word for word, The Great Stalin’s comment to Tom A? https://onepeterfive.com/father-pilus-church-azerbaijan/
If he is not Benedict Carter, a contributor to the new publication, than he is a plagiarist.
Word for word, Melanie.
Verrrry interesting indeed.
But….how do you know that Benedict Carter is a contributor to The Catholic Inquisitor? The list of contributors on AKACatholic does not include him.
I received The Catholic Inquistor this weekend and he is. Benedict Carter wrote an article about a Priest’s Poems. It was innocuous but The Great Stalin isn’t. The Publication is outstandingly well done. I’m so disappointed to see this man, The Great Stalin, affiliated w/the project or impersonating this author, Benedict Carter. I have to imagine that Mr. Verrecchio is unaware of his antics in this comment box.
From Poland, I know this.
After Bishop Timlin was replaced the Diocese is gun shy of anymore accusations.
Bishop Morlino warned the Heirarchy in Paraguay about Urrutigoity’s proclivities.
Bishop Timlin told me that he allowed people to “… follow their own spirituality”. Neither Bishop played priestly favorites or held grudge matches as far as I have read or been told. FSSP, SSJ or Polka Masses, Eileen George , nothing much bothered Bishop Timlin , UNTIL public clerical scandals came to light.
TGS,
I thing I will take a page from your book at this point too.
Catholics need to use the brains God gave them !
Indeed they do. Speaking of using brains:
My theory is that you’re Randy Engel attempting to promote yourself.
It could also be possible that you’re either another person like Randy or a severely mentally ill person. Not that there is much difference.
I’m not Fleur.
I do think you’re Randy Engel.
If you’re not and you have actually seen all these things, who are you? Don’t bullshit everyone and say you have to stay anonymous. If you know the people you say to know, you’re well past retirement so you have no reason to avoid it.
Who are you?
She is a LIAR.
She is a mentally ill LIAR.
You have written literally 10x what Verecio did. Do a word count on all your posts and his first one. You should have your own blog where you can vomit up your garbage. Instead, you use Verecio’s blog because you are a disgusting coward.
You are a disgusting schismatic talking $|=|!+ using your name. Shame on you.
They offer conditional confirmation to anyone who asks. When the candidate approaches the Bishop, one of the assisting priests tells him, “this one is conditional”, and the bushop adds the extra words to the Form.
Sweep likes to Avalanche you with names so that she looks smart. She is not smart. She is a LIAR.
LOL,
I would love to have just a small percent of Randy’s energy brains and talent !
That is exactly the answer RAndy Engel would give. Self-promoting and smug.
If you’re not her, who are you? It should be easy to see where you lived and what you did for work and then people can tell
If ur lying.
I doubt if u will answer because I think ur a dishonest, lying turd. Prove me wrong.
Benedict Carter’s Bio on 1Peter5:
“Benedict Carter, a native of Deeping St. James (a Lincolnshire, England village listed in the Domesday Book – “two villeins and one cow”), was educated at Queens’ College, Cambridge University and has a B.A. (Hons) and an M.A. in history. After some time in the Royal Navy, his career has been spent in the offshore financial services industry in various countries. He worked in Russia for more than a decade and is married to a Russian and has two daughters.”
Post from The Great Stalin a few blog pieces ago:
“I lived in Russia for over a decade. I speak Russian, my wife is Russian. After finally leaving the place, I created TGS solely as a means of writing comments taking the piss out of Russia and all things Russian. But nowadays the comedy has passed and he’s used for much more serious stuff. But I like him. Usually he appears with a particular Stalin picture from an old Soviet poster but that’s not possible as faras I am aware with WordPress.”
“I have to imagine that Mr. Verrecchio is unaware of his antics in this comment box.”
If he wasn’t, he will be as I have directed him to the comments and the concerns addressed here.
Im very interested in the Crusades. My favorite piece of sacred music is Mozart’s Requiem. Favorite saint is St Dismas the Good Thief because it gives us all hope that its never too late. Charlemagne, because he built Christendom. Imitation of Christ.
“Not only my opinion, but of many, these ‘Catholics’ are the latest casualties of Satan’s war on the Church, for the Devil has intensified his attacks on traditional Catholics and has won many over to his side – especially through sedevacantism………prayers for them are most urgent.”
It is much more likely that the Devil has won the non-sedes over to his side by convincing them that a true pope…the Visible Head of the Catholic Church, the Vicar of Christ…. can possibly be a non-Catholic, a manifest heretic. And also convince them that those that recognize this impossibility are not Catholic.
Prayers are most definitely urgent given there are many more non-sedes than sedes.
You see, there are things other than banging on about sedevacantism that are interesting and can build bridges with others. A question about St. Dismas: how do we know what his name was? Do you know where this tradition came from (I don’t)?
Based on the information contained in the links SOTF has provided, even if I was attracted to Williamson’s patently schismatic “Resistance”, I wouldn’t let any children or young adults within 1,000 miles of them.
I have it on authority from a former seminarian who is now the boss of a Catholic journal that the ICKSP is also full of cassock-lifters.
So there IS a problem in Tradition with clerical sodomites. The plague is everywhere. I know the SSPX takes the matter extremely seriously.
Although not in Holy Scripture, his name is known from Tradition. The Eastern Churches are much better at expressing Tradition than the Latin Church.
TGS, Good to hear ! There can be no true renewal of the Traditional Catholic Faith anywhere without cleaning out the corruption within and the vigilance to keep it out.
Skilts the nonsense poster, is just another troll. If he/she would read it would actually see my name in links provided. What I do and have done has been clearly detailed. Alas, the poor troll will not or cannot read !
When Fr Ratzinger dies before Mr. Bergolio, this officially becomes a sedevacantist site. Dwell on that for a few minutes TGS.
“The Eastern Churches are much better at expressing Tradition than the Latin Church.”
Apart from clerical marriage, which goes totally against the clear historical tradition; and of course their heretical marriage rules.
And better only after 1965.
My only knowledge of the Eastern Churches is from the Melkites.
Now you’re deflecting. You constantly post links and there are hundreds of names in them. You are afraid to say who are because then people will know you are a liar. Oh, wait there is a name in many of the links: “Randy Engel”. You’re not even bothering to deny that you’re the same person.
People have had enough of your lies. I am not a troll, you are a liar and a bully and you are coopting this comments section to spread your lies mixed with truth.
Dear sweepoutthekilts
Do you realize that Randy Engel, who you apparently dont like for whatever reason, is a Guest Contributor to this site?
If there are perverts in the V2 church and perverts in Traditional societies, where is the safe haven for Catholic Faithful? This is not a rhetorical or leading question. It is an honest question judging by the many comments on this blog. Is it possible to vet every priest or laity our children must be in contact with in order to raise them “Catholic”. A concise direct answer will be appreciated.
I think Bergolio may actually be a valid Deacon.
The Leader of the Proletariat will deal with that when it comes, Comrade. The triumph of sedevacantism is not an inevitable historical process.
My 2 Cents, The Concise Answer is that Catholics must demand more of the Hierarchy than just words. They must demand forced vigilance and oversight of Seminary Rectors and Vocation Directors by the Hierarchy. Unfortunately the only leverage is the donation basket.
From Poland obviously does not understand all the issues.
Since 2001/02
Bishops have been suspending some clerics they have accusations on file for, simply because a Diocesan Grand Jury may subpoena their files.
Accused and or suspended priests have access to Canonical inquiry and review should they choose and may be reinstated, as was Fr Despard of Scotland . Or, if the Bishop has committed a civil crime ,the priest can engage him in a civil suit as Fr John Gallagher has recently done against Bishop Barbarito.
The secrecy settlements the Bishops have engaged in for decades and decades have allowed for sexual predators to easily be transferred between Diocese or from parish to parish. These pederasts retire with full pensions and most with better health care than the average retiree and live in retirement homes on the pew sitter’s dime.They are not on any sex offender registries and since they are documented to have voracious perverted appetites , pose a threat to the children in society. Statute of Limitations is usually 2 -5 years after age 18 , so they most likely cannot be charged for any of these hidden crimes the Bishops have covered up for.
I am sorry – I thought you meant the Orthodox, but you clearly wrote the Eastern Churches, as I see now.
Truth is, the internet for Catholics has become ‘a playground for Satan’. Gossipy trash, posting nonsensical comments and debates from people whose opinions are totally worthless because they are half-wits at best. Our so-called ‘wisdom’ is “foolishness to God”. They have nothing substantial to contribute to the Catholic cause. Good intentions, get blown out of contest, as gusts and whirlwinds of the storm, beyond deserts and oceans (cyber) sowing pride, anger, confusion and division, not for our good, above all,
……. NOT FOR THE GLORY OF GOD, NOT IN FEAR OF GOD, NOT FOR THE GOOD OF SAVING SOULS, ESPECIALLY, OUR OWN!
+ Goodness + beauty + wisdom = Love and Mercy for our neighbour. Yet, we all have become sinners, according to the time, we live in…..Ave Maria!
Cor Jesu, usque ad mortem obediens factum, Miseerere nobis!
Heart of Jesus, crushed for our iniquities, have mercy on us!
Tom ,
Might I recommend this author’s books on the Shroud and the Crusaders.
https://www.amazon.com/Templars-Shroud-Christ-Barbara-Frale/dp/1905379730#reader_1905379730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Frale
There can be no true renewal of Traditional Catholicism until there is a renewal of the need for personal moral purity in both clerics and laity.
I am sorry of the Truth offends you.
On Bishop Gracida’s blog…..
“He portrays him as a person who speaks publicly against pedophilia, but does not do enough or does nothing within the Catholic Church to eradicate this type of behavior.”
“Then I went to see what he had done beyond words. And the Pope promoted to Cardinal C9, which is the group that runs the Catholic Church, three cardinals who in the past tried to hide the story of pedophile parents. A few months ago Cardinal Müller was removed from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Cardinal Ladaria was put in his place. In only three days I discovered that this cardinal, two years ago, had dismissed a pedophile priest [Gianni Trotta], but when sent the letter to the Bishop of Foggia to give the news, told him not to tell anyone to avoid a scandal among the faithful. This former priest became coach of a children’s soccer team and raped half of the team.”
“These raped children are a burden in Ladaria consciousness. This man, who is the most powerful man in the Vatican together with the Pope today, three years ago sent a letter equally bad to a bishop regarding a pedophile priest named Bernard Preynat, my feeling is that even today in the Vatican there are letters that say ‘keep quiet’. This is not only an immoral matter, but a legal and criminal matter, because in these scandals not only will the victims not have their justice, but pedophiles who are still at liberty will have the possibility of making new victims.”
https://abyssum.org/2018/07/16/words-of-wisdom-from-forrest-gump-stupid-is-as-stupid-does/
How did the holy Church have survived every crisis, every heresy, every treason and scandal in every age…..? How did Catholics in every age kept the faith, since many did not even know how to read and write…….did they get all their ‘extra, extra’, from ‘sweepoutthefilth’?
If the Church has survived centuries of constant turmoil ‘within,’ and from the world (while kingdoms were falling as dominoes into the abyss)……it is not because of ‘human wisdom’, but in spite of it……according, to the finger of God. Deo Gratias!
Of course, But a moral renewal has always and every time been involved. How could it be otherwise?
And it has for centuries…..Yes, or No!
You are correct. But there have always been liars and gossipers who spread filth like sweepoutthefilth.
Do you notice how she says that she has met all these people and knows all these things but never gives her name? That is because she is a liar and spreads gossip. She knows that if she says who she is nobody will believe her because they will know she is lying. She gets mad if you call out her behavior and calls you a troll and lies about you and is rude too. I am not Fleur but she keeps saying I am. Maybe she is actually Randy Engel, maybe not.
She also apparently believes the Earth is flat, so she is mentally ill. It is best to ignore her.
Of course it has . But in the history of the Church
never before has it been made so public ,so wide spread and so widely ignored by the Church at large. Indeed, now we are being asked to accept the sexual pervert as normal in the spectrum of society and clerical world. we are being asked to accept their unions as blessed by God despite all the Scriptural sensus fidelium to the contrary.
Why? Because to eradicate the known clerical practitioners of perversion would be financially and politically costly.
Rome now worships mammon .
Read the Apocalypse .What city do you think God sends an Angel to destroy ,” as if” by tying a giant millstone around it and throwing it into the sea? To what purpose does Jesus Christ refer to a millstone punishment by drowning in the sea? I can provide the stats for cities with the largest pedophiles per capita. Rome tops the list.
How can a Faithful Catholic Christian remain silent with regard to this abomination ?
How long will God tolerate this and do you suppose the General Judgement excuse will be ,”Well I thought there were always pederasts among the clergy. ” Or , “I made excuses for him because he is a priest.”
Maybe you are a pederast yourself and do not want the truth to be circulated?
Skilts , I am not mad in the least and am actually flattered that you think I am Mrs Engel.
You display so much animosity against her.
If you followed Louie’s blog long enough and read the links or even his articles you would know who I am as he does.
Who I am personally mean nothing but what I am posting means quite a lot.
Lord, the fire never says, IT IS ENOUGH!
Do you what I mean, Poland? And Stalin, why do you encourage her. Now she is accusing me of being a pederast. There are two reasons she will not say who she is. 1) Because she can get sued for lying about very serious things like this about people and making accusations. 2) Because if she says who she is, it will be clear that she is not friends with these bishops and priests she says she is and does not know ally he things that she says she knows. Or maybe that she is Randy Engel on disguise and so nobody will believe her anymore. So she is a coward and a liar and spreads rumors and filth while being anonymous. She also believes the earth is flat and so she is not “all there” as they say.
I don’t think you can infer from the name of a site (flatearthtrad) that a person who reads material about clerical sexual abuse available on that site believes that the Earth is flat. You know that, so that makes you a deliberate troublemaker.
Who the hell are you, come to that?
I am not making trouble Stalin. You yourself said you were here to start trouble and go after Sedevacantists. It doesn’t matter who I am because I am not the person saying that they know secrets and know all the bishops and priests. That is sweepoutthefilth. I am glad that Louie Verecio told you and sweepoutthefilth to be quiet. Maybe he will close the comments so that sweepoutthefilth does not have a platform to keep spreading lies and filth.
“You yourself said you were here to start trouble and go after Sedevacantists.”
Eh?!
To consider oneself as naturally a sodomite,in one’s being, is perverse and gravely sinful; it is against Faith and reason.
Amen!
The “professionalisation” of the Faith is horrendous and yet another tool of subversion.
Well said.
What we need is the Old Evangelisation, the Evangelisation of All Time.
All bishops and priests ought, necessarily, be zealous warriors in this Great Apostasy – but it is all compromise and dereluction of duty. Lord, come to our aid.
The Great Stalin is Benedict Carter. He wrote sime grear pieces under his teal name for The Remnant a few years ago. He used to comment there as The Great Stalun, as indeed I used to.
Sweepoutthekilts: “I am glad that Louie Verreccio told you [TGS] and sweepoutthefilth to be quiet.”
He did?
Some of the names change from year to year but the back and forth, not so much! Come back, Mr and Mrs Indignus Famulus! And long time no see to The Great Stalin. I’ve been away from the Catholic blogs for a long time myself. God bless all of us who are struggling to survive in this time of Great Apostasy and universal deception. And let us remember the innocent Catholic priests wrongly accused or convicted of rape or indecent assault, such as Fr Gordon MacRae. Viva Christo Rey!!!
Hi Lynda! Long time no see. Hope you are very well.
Yes, I am back, at least for the moment. With some time on my hands at the moment, I thought I’d take part here, but have run into the usual crop of monomaniacal sedevacantists and with them, explosions are bound to happen. Their sede religion allows them to discuss nothing apart from their self-defence of their rejection of the Church.
Apart from the theological aspect, it’s the total closure of their minds to anything except their theories which is so obviously troubling. Do any of them have any interests at all outside their implacable proselytism? A well-rounded Catholic has healthy outside interests, whether it’s sport, hobbies, literature, watching cartoons – whatever. And these interests appear in comments sooner or later. But with them, there’s no evidence of anything.
I cannot accept sedevacantism for two reasons. Firstly, I am a Catholic and therefore cannot accept that the Church has been overcome by the power of hell, not altogether. The Church is a a visible institution, One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. That visible institution must remain somewhere amongst the rubble of Vatican II-ism. The second reason is that it’s so unutterably boring.
It’s an almost uniquely American phenomenon. The reasons for this should be considered. Is it the moral emptiness of American life, which leads sedes to find something that fills the gap in their lives? Is it the particular state of American Vatican II Catholicism, which (as elsewhere) feeds men stones rather than bread? I don’t know. It’s probably a number of factors. The Cekada splitters all ended up in the States, didn’t they, pretty much? That’s probably a factor too.
I may now look to start my own blog, we’ll see.
Louie, not sure if you heard about this:
https://fsspx.news/en/news-events/news/general-chapter-elects-two-general-councillors-bishop-fellay-fr-schmidberger-39452
“As the Society has grown over the years, the Chapter saw it fit to add two councillors who will serve as advisors to the new Superior General.
Communiqué of the General House of the Society of Saint Pius X
The General Chapter of the SSPX has elected two General Councillors to serve on the Council of the Superior General, Father Davide Pagliarani, in accordance with the customs and law of the Church.
They are BISHOP BERNARD FELLAY, former Superior General (1994-2018) and Father Franz Schmidberger, former Superior General (1982-1994) and currently Director of the Herz Jesu Seminary in Zaitzkofen (Germany).
— Ecône, July 20, 2018”
Thanks for posting this, 2Vermont. Will this mean business as usual for the SSPX?
Perhaps. It will be interesting to see if Louie writes a blog piece on it.