Michael Voris and CMTV, along with their puppet master money man, are positively obsessed with the Society of St. Pius X. Enough already.
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Church Militant.tv and Michael Voris and their puppet master money man are positively obssessed; obsessed with slandering at every turn the Society of St. Pius X.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider – a man Michael Voris has interviewed and relied upon many times as a credible source of insight on the crisis effecting the Catholic Church – recently visited two SSPX seminaries as a legate of the Holy See and came away with nothing but praise.
He even went so far as to say, and I quote:
“To my knowledge there are no weighty reasons in order to deny the clergy and faithful of the SSPX the official canonical recognition, meanwhile they should be accepted as they are.”
No weighty reasons…
Did you get that? This being the case, it’s no wonder he never even hinted at the ridiculous notion that this group – who he believes should be accepted as they are – is in schism, formal or otherwise.
So what does Voris do?
He seeks clarification from Bishop Schneider, whose response made it crystal clear that allegations of schism have no part in this conversation.
End of story?
Not even close.
Being obsessed with an irrational hatred for the Society – one that may have originated in the checkbook of his benefactor but now belongs entirely to him as well – Voris went back to attacking the SSPX; misrepresenting His Excellency’s words and labeling those good Catholics who are sympathetic to the Society and their positions as, “those who support schism.”
Two days ago, Pope Francis decreed that the priests of the SSPX are given the jurisdiction to hear confessions and to offer absolution validly and licitly during the Year of Mercy.
As my friend Chris Ferrara said:
“Popes don’t grant to schismatics universal power to absolve the sins of the Catholic faithful.”
Obvious enough right?
So, how did CMTV react?
By firing off yet another round of accusations of schism.
Maybe PO-sessed is more accurate.
It’s sad, really. At one time I had nothing but respect for Michael Voris and the work he was doing. I called him “friend,” and I still have high hopes that he’ll return to being what he once was … but things have changed and changed drastically.
At one time, CMTV was determined to uncover the truth and to “expose lies and falsehoods.”
Now, unfortunately, they are so overcome with some unholy obsession that they think nothing of telling their own lies and falsehoods – over and over and over again – about a group whose only crime is to believe and to behave as Catholics have always behaved and believed.
So, why not just ignore these people?
Well, as Pope St. Felix III said:
“Not to oppose error, is to approve it, and not to defend truth is to suppress it, and indeed to neglect to confound evil men, when we can do it, is no less a sin than to encourage them.”
In addition to that, CMTV is misleading God only knows how many souls.
Look, I’ve never been one to beat around the bush so I’ll get right to it.
Over the last week, I’ve heard from any number of current and former CMTV subscribers who either have, or are seriously considering, canceling their subscription.
More than one has made it a point of telling me that they withdrew their support from CMTV so they could redirect that support to the Harvesting the Fruit blog. I’m humbled by that.
If you’re a current subscriber to CMTV and you’re growing weary of their unhealthy fixation on the Society of St. Pius X, when God knows that they and those who sympathize with them are not the problem in the Church today …
If you’re finding their refusal to directly engage the incredibly dangerous words and deeds of Pope Francis – a Roman Pontiff who, incidentally, is about to preside over a Synod of Bishops that he is charging with finding ways to change that which every Catholic knows is unchangeable – if you’re finding that position increasingly untenable; to the point of falling right into the trap of which Pope St. Felix warned when he said: “Not to oppose error, is to approve it…”
If you recognize the degree to which their priorities have so obviously shifted away from what they once were…
Then please consider joining those who have chosen to redirect their support to the Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II blog.
We don’t have “premium” members here. Everyone – from the silent casual reader to the most prolific commenter and everyone in between is equally as important in what we’re doing.
We also don’t have the luxury of a state of the art studio, a building out of which to operate, or a wealthy benefactor to pay our bills; much less tell us what song sheet we’re obligated to sing from.
In fact, I’m making this video on my iPhone right now; I’ll edit it with some free program I found online and then upload it myself on my laptop later…
What we do have, however, is an obsession of our own.
Speaking for myself, I may not always get it right, but I can promise you this:
Fr. Jose Miguel Marques Campo and I are obsessed with opposing error, defending truth and confounding evil men whenever and however we can no matter the cost.
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It is more profitable to turn away from things which displease you and to leave to every man his own opinion than to take part in quarrelsome talk
Thomas a Kempis
Imitation of Christ
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This obsession of Voris with the SSPX is Satanic. This is the demonic acting. This is not just bad ideas. This is evil. Michael Voris is under the standard of Satan. Michael Voris is an agent of Satan.
Obsession is not of God. Obsession is not a good. Obsession is a sign of the demonic.
Michael Voris needs an exorcist.
No I am not letting that one go. Pope St. Pius X Punches People in the Face!
On this the feast of Pope St. Pius X let’s get real!
St. Pius X Pray for us!
not to oppose error is to condone it / Michael, no one heals himself by wounding another.
Is Michael Voris (Borish??) a Real Catholic or does he consider himself to be an Obedient Catholic?
1)a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal
2)someone or something that a person thinks about constantly or frequently
3) an activity that someone is very interested in or spends a lot of time doing
4)a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; broadly : compelling motivation
Sermon from bishop williamson july 2015
Already, at The Cult Of The Warehouse In Detroit, Producer Peter O’Dwyer has written a section about Schism in regards to CMTV’s least favourite 4 Letter Word, SSPX, “Upgrading” Schism to Heresy.
I realize that in their Cult, that the Freedom to exchange and discuss ideas are limited to the praise of “Dear Anchor”, as if their webcasts are originating in Pyongyang instead of Suburban Ferndale in Metro Detroit.
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Vivat Christus Rex!
Did anyone notice that “Fraternity” was used instead of “Society?”
“As my friend Chris Ferrara said: ‘Popes don’t grant to schismatics universal power to absolve the sins of the Catholic faithful.'”
Do popes ban priests from saying the TLM like Bergoglio did the FFI?
Do popes grant laymen (aka bishop Tony) burial as Catholic bishops?
Do popes advise Catholics not to proselytize?
Do popes tell Muslims, Jews and atheists that they are saved without confession and baptism?
Do popes ask the Catholic faithful to pray to Gaia “mother earth”?
Oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.
Clearly CMTV is cultish and demonic. What is interesting is in true Catholic order CMTV wouldn’t exist and if it did it would be controlled by the Church. It was Vatican II and the modern Popes that called for these types of lay run media cults.
Demonic cults like CMTV are the result of the Vatican II error of collegiality. Which inverts Catholic order and authority and turns the Church into a democracy. This “c”atholic Vatican II democracy has equality and free speech Voris and the Bishops are equal in the Vatican II religion on matters of the day. Voris has his “rights”……..madness pure madness.
The Bishop’s power is now shared by monsters like the USCCB. What is amazing is the Bishops and the USCCB can not stop the CMTV cult and it is their dear Vatican II that made this so.
When Catholic order is restored cults like CMTV will be shut down or censored. CMTV is the fruit of Vatican II and the error of collegiality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdfFbh33Rw
Voris really thinks he can call a group of Catholics “schismatics”. CMTV is a demonic neo americanist outfit that fears a return to the social reign of Christ the King. That is why Satan is using CMTV to attack Catholics in the SSPX the devil fears a return to the social reign of Christ the King.
Might he need a vortexorcist?
Sorry. Couldn’t resist.
It’s actually the FSSPX.
I find one has to be extremely cautious about self- appointed “Catholic” teachers who answer to no one but themselves, especially those in the “Catholic” media world who make a living off of pedaling the Gospel as if it were some type of commercial product, like soap or toothpaste. There is some good teaching out there, and a lot of bad, so one has to be prudent and discriminating.
It is unfortunate that today we have to teach ourselves the faith, as many here obviously do, instead, we cannot trust the clergy to even be Catholic! There is a danger that such hired people could be thieves and robbers.
The Didache warned us about the same – travelling teachers who sought payment, as opposed to St. Paul who made it his point to pay his own way by working his own trade and not leeching off his hearers. Jesus gave us this warning :
John 10:1-16 1 AMEN, amen I say to you: He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up another way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4 And when he hath let out his own sheep, he goeth before them: and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice. 5 But a stranger they follow not, but fly from him, because they know not the voice of strangers. 6 This proverb Jesus spoke to them. But they understood not what he spoke to them.
7 Jesus therefore said to them again: Amen, amen I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All others, as many as have come, are thieves and robbers: and the sheep heard them not. 9 I am the door. By me, if any man enter in, he shall be saved: and he shall go in, and go out, and shall find pastures. 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I am come that they may have life, and may have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep. 12 But the hireling, and he that is not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and flieth: and the wolf catcheth, and scattereth the sheep: 13 And the hireling flieth, because he is a hireling: and he hath no care for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me. 15 As the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father: and I lay down my life for my sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd.
Michael F Poulin
https://youtu.be/Dk5at-9lAOQ. if you live by the vortex, you could die by the vortex.
. a sad and odd coincidence concerning the poor fellow who succumbed to the whirlpool’s vortex was that his name was Jacob Cockle.
Cockle refers to the tares in the parable of the wheat and the tares…
Matthew 13 : 25-26 DRC1752
25 But while men were asleep, his enemy came and oversowed cockle among the wheat and went his way.
26 And when the blade was sprung up, and had brought forth fruit, then appeared also the cockle.
(Not that this shoe fits our brother Michael, but sometimes our wheels can get off the track and we need a gentle persuasion. Or sometimes a public rebuke. Let’s get back on track Mike.)
Iron sharpeneth iron.
That is the problem of separating the wheat from the tares. Sometimes the good fruit could be harvested in the process..
a warning also… that we should
recall Tessio’s final words in this last clip.
Thank you Louie for your outreach and insight…. and courage…
Have a fearless day!
Thomas was speaking to religious, in a monastery, with a habit, discipline and REAL CATHOLIC PRIESTS PROVIDING THE REAL PRESENCE. Just sayin’.
Heresy and schism (=VII/Novus Ordo) should displease all Catholics greatly because they are the enemy of the Blood of Christ, according to Christ the King and His true Peters.
VII…VII…VII…VII…NOVUS ORDO…NOVUS ORDO…NOVUS ORDO…NOVUS ORDO…NEW ORDER.
Holy Roman Catholic Church = Christ’s Church.
VII and Novus Ordo manufactured a new faith (ONE DEGREE IS ENOUGH) and new rites (ANY DISSENT FROM DOGMA IS ENOUGH – read the works of the Catholic (pre-VII) Pope’s and Saints ; read Pope Paul IV Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio) in the sees and real estate of the Catholic Church. That’s not new; has been the work of heretics, schismatics, and apostates since Simon the Magus. The Archbishop of Canterbury and the Patriarch of Constantinople are continuing examples..WHAT’S NEW is the generation of Novus Ordo heresiarchs squatting in the See of Peter. The Office of Peter is perpetual, but, as the Church teaches, the occupation suffers vacancies; either through the times between the death of a Pope and the election of his successor or through pretenders battling for that which is not given them, or through heresy, which is what we suffer (New Mass, New ‘Ordination ‘rites’, New practices, New doctrine = VII/NOVUS ORDO…the Great Apostasy?). The Church foresaw this…most of us are too – something – to even begin to have ‘ears to hear’. But the Bride of Christ IS NEVER A WHORE; that is to say poisonous in matters of faith EVER; She does not commune with non-Catholics. And she has no God-given right to declare protestants, buddhists, pagans, jews, muslims, etc, ‘partial’ ‘Christians’ – saved, as Wojtyla/jpii and his ‘brethren’ have.
Pope’s are not heretics, schismatics or apostates. Montini/Paul VI and his sons are all three – publicly, manifestly, obstinately by turns … because they belong to – and represent NOT the Catholic Faith – but her adversary.
Mr Voris is a NOVUS ORDITE, who would be a Catholic. Like so many thwarted vocations who place their trust in the New Order. Anyone who communes with a Novus Ordo Heresiarch is NOVUS ORDITE.
I responded to Peter with the letter from the pope regarding SSPX , no response from Peter, and I’m amazed they didn’t block the post.
I believe Michael Voris’s ‘obsession’ problem is deeper than the SSPX. I strongly suspect that he has deep psychological problems that go back many years. Take his claim to be an Emmy winner. He never won an Emmy in his life! Go to the official Emmy website, and you won’t see a Michael Voris listed as an Emmy winner. http://www.emmys.org site search shows only a Cyrus Voris as an Emmy winner. He has outright lied about himself being an Emmy winner! If he lied about this, we must wonder how many other lies has he told about his life and accomplishments? I think we need to find out!
Michael Voris only exposes lies and falsehoods—he doesn’t admit to them!
Amen to that salvemur, context is everything. otherwise we are sinning by keeping silent of evil right before our eyes.
That is REALLY weird. I repeated the search myself on the emmys site and only found a “Cyrus Voris”.
Has Voris changed his name? If so, why?
Voris claims to have won 4 Emmy’s between 1992 and 1996? I just searched the Emmy site and there is no record of that. Maybe a crack investigator can contact the Fox affiliate in Detroit that he claimed to work for at the time, to verify his story. Can’t help think of Fr. Corapi (the Black Sheepdog) who also made up all kinds of stories about his past life (millionaire, special forces, etc.).
It is interesting that you mentioned “Fr. Corapi (the Black Sheepdog)” I noticed CMTV gave an update on Fr. Corapi the other day. I can not help but see parallels between CMTV and Fr. Corapi. Many of the poor confused souls that follow CMTV could end up confused and heartbroken like the cult of Fr. Corapi was when he put on the leather jacket and became the Black Sheepdog.
CMTV is in many ways following the same track as Fr. Corapi and other new church personality cults. The devil let’s them get popular and then they blow up and cause incalculable harm. We have seen this over and over again with Priests and laymen. I am thinking now of the EWTN priest who left the Priesthood and took a wife. I fear Voris & CMTV will have a similar crash. The devil is a cruel master. If Father Paul Nicholson doesn’t end up in the newspaper I will be very surprised.
As to your point that “Voris claims to have won 4 Emmy’s between 1992 and 1996″ Until it can be confirmed that he lied it really isn’t right to suggest that he is making it up. I know it is easy to dislike Voris but we want to be careful.
dfinnguy said ” I strongly suspect that he has deep psychological problems” Frankly Americans are nuts all of us are nuts. You have to be crazy to survive in America. I do not know anyone that doesn’t have some psychological problems. America is a crazy place.
Excellent comments right down to the ground mate. I couldn’t have said it better.
Cymru am byth!
Voris is an egotist of the first order. No one uses a lousy S.T.B after their name. These days a bachelor degree isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, especially one in Theology. Only an egotist would use such a designation in a effort to bolster is image as a “learned man.” Rubbish! “You can fool some of the people some of the time…
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim
Because it was grassy and wanted wear,
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I,
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Louie, your outfit and CMTV are completely two different creatures and not mutually exclusive.
The issue really is the journalistic integrity of CMTV. You are correct to criticize Voris’ professionalism insofar as CMTV purports to be…inter alia…a Catholic News Agency. Voris should have interviewed a member of the SSPX as a response to your past challenge. In fact, CMTV should have interviewed a member immediately after the recent statement made by the Vatican. I would have no problem at all if after such a fair interview CMTV also added an critical editorial about the SSPX from its perspective, biased or not. As a news agency — Catholic or not —- it has this prerogative.
In short, I see no problem with differing opinions on the subject of the SSPX between you and CMTV.
However, one problem with some commenters here is that they only see CMTV as a Catholic apostolate and not as a Catholic news agency. But this is the risk CMTV brought upon itself for assuming both roles.
In this instance you are right to question the professional integrity of CMTV. At heart, the issue of CMTV’s treatment of the SSPX, as well as it apparently, entirely turning its back on a whole host of traditional Catholic bloggers and journalists, goes to the issue of its journalistic integrity.
Ultimately, the source of the problem here concerning the status of SSPX comes from the Vatican and the Office of the Papacy itself with its contradictory actions and confusing and muddled statements concerning it as well as about so many theological issues.
That take is too narrow. Why are we laymen still reading and learning from The Imitation of Christ in 2015?
Check under the name of Gary Voris at WJBK 2, the FOX O & O in Detroit.
Voris’ unholy obsession against the Society is equal to Fr. Paul Nicholson’s.
I do not soil my orbitals by reading anything he writes nor by watching his video productions, but I can only imagine the wicked spin Nicholson is also spinning regarding this week’s SSPX development.
Fr. Paul Nicholson has been completely silent on the SSPX development. Not a word.
Wow. Are you serious? I am seriously shocked.
Perhaps enough of us contacting his bishop for all the calumnies against the SSPX and the good Father Gruner caused his silence, and for whatever reason, we thank God.
Perhaps this explains Voris’ ramping up against the Society: Voris is much more free to slander and spew not having to answer to a bishop, and they are chums, Nicholson and Voris.
Michael Voris’ friend, Fr. Z, is also lecturing SSPXers. Fr. Z wishes to be our priest (too kind!) inorder to tell us to thank, Pope Francis! Do you think Fr. Z will ever get down on his knees and thank Pope Pius XI for his encyclical, MORTALIUM ANIMOS wherein the Pope warns him against Pope John Paul’s horrible Assisi meetings? I mean Pope Pius XI was trying to warn priests like Fr. Z to have nothing to do with these errors. Father’s campaign to have Pope John Paul declared a Doctor of the Church needs to be explained.
You said “Father’s campaign to have Pope John Paul declared a Doctor of the Church needs to be explained.”
Father Z is a follower of the Vatican II new religion. Father Z likes the errors of John Paul II. Father Z is an Americanist. Father Z promotes the Americanist Acton Institute that teaches Capitalism (like socialism condemned by the Church) and the Acton Institute is completely corrupted with the masonic principles of the revolution. Look into the Acton Institute it is a neo con Americanist outfit it is not Catholic. Father Z accepts the new mass.
Father Z is a dangerous wolf anything he says means nothing to Catholics. Father Z was also ordained with Fr. Corapi (the Black Sheepdog) by John Paul II. The Vatican’s relationship with the CIA in fighting Communism is well known……just sayin……. 2+2=4. That relationship has been very harmful for the Church. This relationship is why Medjugorje was not condemned in the 80’s by John Paul II.
The Vatican allowed the CIA to launder money though Medjugorje to fight the Communists. This may be be the only good thing about Pope Frances he may shut down Medjugorje his leftism does not prevent him from coming out against Medjugorje. God help us!
I would describe CMTV as a opus dei agitational propaganda operation. CMTV uses classic Marxist tactics in it’s propaganda I wouldn’t be surprised if the staff of CMTV or even Michael Voris himself do not know that are an asset of someone else.
The Marxist agitational propaganda is made most clear in this CMTV gem called Reactionary Catholic Media: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FvQso_9Tk8
The use of the word “Reactionary” is a classic leftist phrase.
Perhaps if CMTV looks into the making Reactionary Catholic Media they may find out who is handling them. Who suggested the use of the word Reactionary? Clearly CMTV is not a Catholic outfit. CMTV is like EWTN meets Glenn Beck.
CMTV is neither a Catholic News Agency or a Catholic Apostolate. CMTV is nothing but a bunch of self appointed new church laymen that do not even have the blessing of the conciliarist Bishops for what they do. CMTV is not Catholic at all in any meaningful sense of the word.
CMTV defends Vatican II and the new mass. That alone shows they are not at all Catholic. Even if one holds that Vatican II new church is the Church CMTV still has zero approval for what they from the authorities. No Catholic has any assurance at all what they get at CMTV is Catholic. CMTV is like the bastard child of Mother Angelica and Fox news.
It would appear that the sins of detraction and calumny are magically erased by adding this mysterious phrase ” just sayin ” at the end
detraction is telling the true but secret fault of another. calumny is making false statements about with the intent to harm their name. Where in my comment did I tell the true but secret fault of another? I didn’t. Where in my comment did I make false statements about other with the intent to harm their name. I didn’t.
The Church has real enemies. Wake up. These enemies attack both overtly and covertly. The three enemies of the Church are the Jews, the Communists and the Masons. The Zionist Jews control the lodge through Jewish occult mysticism and they control the Communists with the Federal reserve banking system. The Marxist hammer inside the Church is opus dei. The Masonic hammer inside the Church is the Americanist faction. I am sorry that makes you fell icky……..just sayin IT IS REALTY. The time for playing nice with these devils is over. Just sayin…….
For a dose of reality try reading this: http://www.catholicactionresourcecenter.com/synagoguerising.htm
Could you ple4ase give a link to that? I can only find Cyrus Voris.
SYNAGOGUE RISING by traditional catholic Hugh akins
The church of nice isnt so nice.
piokolby, right now, I only know Gary’s name doesn’t show up as an Emmy winner.
I believe Voris has deep psychological problems based on his strange public behavior in over the last few years. The way he’s handled Simon Rafe, Cdl. Burke, Bp. Schieder, and his attacks on the SSPX, to me, shows me a man who’s trying to live in a fantasy world, a fantasy world that’s falling apart right in front of his eyes, even as he scrambles to hold it together.
Also, he has an incredible need for self promotion. He’s always trying to project himself as the great warrior of God. He’s always ripping the bishops a new one, yet what does he really accomplish at the end of the day? Nothing really, but he has the satisfaction showing his followers he will rip a new one.
And, deep down, I believe he has a deep resentment of authority. He always poses himself as someone who wants to challenge authority. But when his authority is challenged, he lashes out at anyone who dares to question the Almighty Gary. Yep, I think when the poop hits the fan big time, Ol’ Gary is going to lose it completely.
Thank you,kind sir
I shall endeavour to try a whole new approach…” Just listenin “
I encouraged my father to buy the book (which he did) after reading reviews for it, but have not read it myself.
A question: Where has it ever been set forth that a “council” could be called in the Church to determine whether or not a pope is a heretic? Im not nearly as knowledgeable on the Faith as most of the other posters here are, but as far as I know this “council” would be an impossibility as the pope has no earthy judge….but yet I keep seeing people suggest that such a “council” is necessary in order to determine whether or not the pope is in fact a heretic. We all know, or should know at least, that a heretical pope is automatically no longer a pope and has no need to be declared so (a non-pope) by a “council” so Im curious as to what people are talking about. Thanks in advance.
Dear Rich, this piece by Michael Davies (RIP) may help.
Thanks Lynda. Even Davies, who I dont rely on for anything Catholic, admits that a council could not be called to determine whether or not a pope is a heretic. Davies proposes that the teachings of vatican 2 may need to be rectified at some date in the future. The Church, while setting forth what is to be believed by the faithful, cannot possibly teach error. Mr Davies, in total contradiction to what the Perfect Church is, proposes that the Church CAN teach error and can possibly rectify said error at a later date. I have no use for this man.
Behold the Man
Barbara…narrow is the gate and strait is the way…I hope you’re not dissing the Kempis. He has often filled my darker moments with light.
Oh dear it’s a lot of fun making fun of Voris. God forgive me I do it myself, but I do worry about him. There is something not quite right, but I can’t put my finger on it. I shall say a decade for him now and then.
dear Ever mindful,
You quote from Imitation of Christ often. I love it. After my initial lengthy bought with homelessness in 2002, I was given my very first copy of this work by a “good samaritan.” I’ve carried it with me at all times since, along with De Montfort’s True Devotion. About 18 mos. ago, in desiring to give a copy to those whom I’m trying to introduce to the Faith, I faced something not entirely unexpected. My copy is a pre-VII edition-I’ve seen that the wording in post-VII editions is significantly altered, i.e. subtly infused with Modernism. I’ve not been able to find an edition like mine anywhere, not even at Trad book sources. Any help you might be able to give in this search would be most welcome!
Remember that you only have one soul; that you only have one death to die; that you have only one life…if you do this, there will be many things about which you care nothing…
Teresa of Avila
Dear De Maria
The Ipieta App has a very traditional translation
There is also a very poetic translation by Bill Creasey available as an audiobook on iTunes / iBooks
Always a comfort
Often a challenge
“Why do you seek rest, when you were born to labour”
Thomas a Kempis
thank you-dear Ever mindful.
To your point—
At 1:11-in this meticulously researched talk within an impactful conference we note: quoting St. Cyprian
“—-the Church is not a whore, but She is the Spotless Bride of Christ. Her purity is in tact. She guards Her nuptial chamber chastely and courageously. Of the spirit of fornication She is incapable. The Spouse of Christ cannot be adulterous, She is uncorrupted and pure. She knows one Home. She guards with chaste modesty the Sanctity of one Couch She keeps us for God. ——”
This is a translation of the great masterpiece by Fr Frederick Faber:
dear In Hoc,
thank you too !!
SSPX Bishop Fellay’s mother died on the Feast of Pope St. Pius X (9/3/15). May she Rest In Peace. Perhaps, the Saintly Pope greeted her. Let us pray for the repose of her soul for eternal rest.
Dear Rich, Michael Davies refers to the authorities say that a Council can (and ought to) be called. It is not his personal opinion. Or a group of faithful bishops or Cardinals. By necessity, it would not be a perfect Council. After relevant warnings had not been heeded, they would make a declaration that formal heresy had occurred in the relevant circumstances. That is how the world can be certain of the fact. They do not depose him but acknowledge that by his formal heresy he is ipso facto deposed, and they can put in train procedures for an election of a pope. God bless.
Dear de Maria, You’re in my prayers. God bless you.
Let us keep the comments regarding Michael Voris in the kindness category:+) I don’t like what he is doing either and have seen something go off the rails at CMTV. Let us follow what Our Lord tells us to do with those who attack Truth: pray for them, do good to them, forgive them and yes, correct but with kindness, yes? I pray Our Lord opens the eyes of Mr. Voris and all of those at CMTV to the truth’s that Louie so wonderfully presents:+) God bless~
Thank you, dear Lynda. Likewise. May His Peace be to you today & always.
May she rest in Peace.
I was lessening to a video on sensus fidelium by Fr. Ripenger ( i think that’s how his name is spelled) on spiritual warfare. He is Fraternaty of St. Peter priest who is also an exorcist. One interesting thing he said about Sedevecantism is that it fails to explain what he deals with day in and day out. Sometimes he can get rid of demons with a private exorsism, but other times he has to go get faculties from a bishop to preform a major exorsism (especially if the demon asks “where is your authorty”). After he gets faculties its only a matter of time before he gets rid of the demons by using the major exorsism rite. He even said that the bishops he got faculties from were heretical, yet the demons were coerced to leave by the authoriy given to him by those very same bishops. There are many other exorsists that could tell you the same thing. The demons know who has spiritual authority and who doesn’t. Why would they leave a possesed person and go back to hell if these bishops cannot actually give faculties for major exorsisms? This shows in a very pratical way that you can have evil people who still have authority.
I am offering this poem to you,
since I have nothing else to give.
Keep it like a warm coat,
when winter comes to cover you,
or like a pair of thick socks
the cold cannot bite through,
I love you,
I have nothing else to give you,
so it is a pot full of yellow corn
to warm your belly in the winter,
it is a scarf for your head, to wear
over your hair, to tie up around your face,
I love you,
Keep it, treasure it as you would
if you were lost, needing direction,
in the wilderness life becomes when mature;
and in the corner of your drawer,
tucked away like a cabin or a hogan
in dense trees, come knocking,
and I will answer, give you directions,
and let you warm yourself by this fire,
rest by this fire, and make you feel safe,
I love you,
It’s all I have to give,
and it’s all anyone needs to live,
and to go on living inside,
when the world outside
no longer cares if you live or die;
I love you.
Jimmy Santiago Baca
Yes let’s sing out for the Kempis.
“Be pure and free within thyself, and be not entangled by any created thing”.
Hey, Critical Thinker. It’s Ripperger.
“Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.” Mathews 12.
If Ripperger wants to make a solid Catholic argument for those to whom Christ says, “I never knew you”, having His authority – be interested to hear it.
Does Christ endorse the Novus Ordo? That which sets itself up at odds to His Church, His priesthood?
Sacred tradition and Sacred scripture say, ‘no’. Pope Paul IV calls these men ‘warlocks’.
‘Scues me, that should be Matthew 7:21-23
I think he did make a solid argument. The scripture you quoted actually supports my possision believe it or not. You see those people who were damned in the Gospel ACTUALLY did miracles like casting out devil because they did it IN THE NAME OF JESUS. Jesus’s name is authoritative and caused the demons to leave even though the people doing the exorcism were evil. Now Father Ripperger is only able to cast out some demons in the name of ORDINARY CHURCH AUTHORITY given to him by a novus ordo bishop AKA faculties. Regardless of where he or the novus ordo end up (hell or hevean) or what he believes, the demons were compelled by the authority of the bishop. There is a parallel here. Jesus’ name was used by evil people to do good just like the bishop’s authority was used by a confused individual to do good. Jesus’ name is authoritative just like the faculties given by the bishop is authoritative.
Some people commenting on this blog have recommended: Synagogue Rising by Hugh Akins
This is a dangerous book especially for those with weak minds who are seeking to pin the ills of the world on one particular people. Louie, I think you should condemn this book which has been recommended by people here.
This book is full of lies, propaganda, half-truths, mis-applied truths and outright fabricated propaganda. I would stay away from it – it is poison.
There is no such thing as “Crypto-Judaic-Totalitarianism” threatening to consummate the overthrow of God on earth by ratifying a One World Tyranny under the framework of a New World Order
What we see today is the same defects of mankind as always since the Fall: pride, lust for power, greed, lust for possessions, the same as it has always been, and there is no need for any “Jewish” conspiracy to make those sins blossom.
Sure there are power elites – big banks, power hungry totalitarians, atheistic communists, even supporters pining for a one world government, what they have in common is that they all hate the Truth, the Church…so what else is new? But to believe that this is all being controlled by some secret cabal meeting around an oak table in the Swiss Alps is just plain nuts. You can’t get five or six people to agree on the weather from last week, let alone maintain a centuries old conspiracy.
The words from the Cross, “Father forgive them,” apply to not only the Jewish people and leaders at the time, but to all those who’s minds are darkened by ignorance and sin. We should be praying for the conversion of our enemies, as Jesus did. That is what is Catholic.
To call Jews “ a menace to all nations” is not Christ-like at all, no, I think He would try to convert their hearts, and gather in to Himself all the lost of Israel.
The “Jews” are not behind the world’s plunge from Christianity into liberalism, immorality, secularism, world apostasy and global totalitarianism. The”Jews” are not behind most heresies, secret societies, revolutions and wars. People who lust after the world are responsible for those.
This book is full of un-documented whoppers like : Obama – “the first Jewish president;” Rahm Emanuel – the “Mossad spy” who ran White House;” Chertoff – “Zionist head of American Gestapo;” George Soros: High Priest of the International Rothschild/Illuminati/OTO crime syndicate, and Israel’s Complicity in the 9/11 Terror Attacks.
Perhaps the “Jews” are responsible for erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness too… yeah right.
Another error promoted by this book is “Muslim rage as the product of Jewish inhumanity and genocide” That is a load of crap. Sorry Hugh has that completely backwards. Anyone who studies that religion knows its anti-Jewish roots come from Mohammed himself.
Another load of bull is the books treatment of The Holocaust as another “chain” used to keep Jews enslaved under the “Rabbinic Captivity.” The book claims to have solid proofs of the “myth” of the six million and gas chambers. That is another falsehood perpetrated by this book. The facts and evidence for the Holocaust are overwhelming. There is actually testimony by German army officers complaining about the murderous SS death squads Hitler sent to exterminate entire villages of Jews. There are bills and receipts from the engineering firms who built the gas chambers and the chemical companies who supplied the gas!
I am sure that by condemning this work I will get the response – “Beware of Traditional Catholics who parrot the Zionist party line – Has the traditional movement been infiltrated at the top? Has a diabolical disorientation poisoned our thinking?” Oh yes, now this Catholic boy is part of the conspiracy too!!!
Christ’s mission: “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” To hate Jews is to hate Our Lady and her parents. To hate Jews is to hate Saint Joseph. To hate Jews is to hate John the Baptist and all of the Apostles and Saint Paul. This has no place in Catholicism. We are to convert the world in order to save it.
To hate Jews is to hate Jesus Christ.
Michael Francis Poulin
Hmm, I’m surprised your comment didn’t garner any replies (yet), but I have to say I agree to a great extent with your analysis.
While it’s undeniable that some historically prominent Jews have been perpetrators of great evil, a great deal more is attributed to them in terms of world calamities than is really merited.
The bottom line is this – we are still suffering the effects of the protestant revolt from a former CATHOLIC – Martin Luther.
Catholics have the fate of the world in their hands – not the Jews. We cannot blame the current apostasy in the Church on the Jews. There may be some prominent Jews out there trying to wreak even more havoc on the Church – but whatever harm they are able to produce is a result of the pusillanimity and lukewarmness of Catholics – and this is precisely what led to Vatican II and the ensuing disaster.
Regarding the gas chambers – there were until recently survivors of the very people who led the Jews into the gas chambers (they used Jews to carry out this “job”) – and who had to pick up the dead bodies afterwards. I still remember listening to an interview of a survivor who said that he knew everything that happened, from “A to z”.
What do the “gas chambers” deniers pretend, that these folks have been bought in order to sell a lie that sullies their reputation for their entire lives?
And then there was Reading Gaol in England….
“And never a human voice comes near
To speak a gentle word:
And the eye that watches through the door
Is pitiless and hard:
And by all forgot, we rot and rot,
With soul and body marred.
And thus we rust Life’s iron chain
Degraded and alone:
And some men curse, and some men weep,
And some men make no moan:
But God’s eternal Laws are kind
And break the heart of stone.
And every human heart that breaks,
In prison-cell or yard,
Is as that broken box that gave
Its treasure to the Lord,
And filled the unclean leper’s house
With the scent of costliest nard.
Ah! happy they whose hearts can break
And peace of pardon win!
How else may man make straight his plan
And cleanse his soul from Sin?
How else but through a broken heart
May Lord Christ enter in?
And he of the swollen purple throat,
And the stark and staring eyes,
Waits for the holy hands that took
The Thief to Paradise;
And a broken and a contrite heart
The Lord will not despise.
The man in red who reads the Law
Gave him three weeks of life,
Three little weeks in which to heal
His soul of his soul’s strife,
And cleanse from every blot of blood
The hand that held the knife.
And with tears of blood he cleansed the hand,
The hand that held the steel:
For only blood can wipe out blood,
And only tears can heal:
And the crimson stain that was of Cain
Became Christ’s snow-white seal.”
THE BALLAD OF READING GAOL
Michael Francis Poulin,
You may find this book helpful: http://www.romancatholicism.org/pdf/pinay-plot-church.pdf
Google: plot against the church by maurice pinay
Google: synagogue of satan by andrew carrington hitchcock
I haven’t read Akins’ book Synagogue Rising, but I have heard him interviewed, ( https://s3.amazonaws.com/isoc-recordings/recording.mp3 ). He doesn’t come across as a kook to me.
When people speak of the Jewish aspect of the New World Order, they aren’t speaking of the Jewish guy down the street, or the Jewish kid you went to high school with.
There’s enough smoke regarding the Jewish/Zionist questions in connection to historical and current world events, the crisis in the Church, etc., to look for the fire behind it. Again, not talking about your average Jew in the street, but the elite, the ones up at the top of the power structure.
If you’re simply poo pooing the possibility that “conspiracy theories” might actually have some truth to them, then I suggest you break free from the mainstream media. I’d also suggest you read some pre-V2 encyclicals.
This trembling in fear at the mere whiff of any criticism of the anything Jewish is just more evidence that some thing’s screwy about it.
Good grief people, the modern state of Israel is no more privileged or special than any other nation on the face of the earth. The promises made to Abraham regarding the Jewish people were and are fulfilled in His Church. They’ve done been cut off until such time as they recognize and accept Our Lord Jesus Christ. When they do as a people, or when any individual Jews does, great. Praise God. Until then, they’re, objectively speaking, lost souls, cut off from the Vine, no more “special” than any other nation. As for the modern religion of Judaism, it’s a different thing than the Jewish religion in Biblical times. It’s identified by its rejection of Christ. Just another false religion. Perhaps worse, because all the evidence for Christ is right there in their Torah and in the writings of the OT prophets. They are to be pitied, prayed for and prostyletized (sp?).
Enough with the bootlicking already. Leave that to the protestant dispensationalists. We’re supposed to be Catholic for crying out loud.
The host of this blog likes the comment box to stay on topic (for the most part). Also, questioning disputed historical events involving the traditional enemies of the TRUTH (i.e,, Jesus Christ Our Lord) is not a “winning” public face for this blog (where “winning” means attracting people to the true Faith). Please direct “conspiracy theory”-related topics involving the traditional enemies of the Truth to the forum unless your comment is at least somewhat related to the blog post. We don’t EVER want to give the enemy the easy out that this blog is populated by anti-traditional-enemies-of-the-TRUTH-ites.
In general, I also ascribe to what one of the prior commenters implied – that if all Catholics were doing all they need do in, for example, evangelizing all people – including the traditional enemies of the TRUTH – we wouldn’t be in half the mess we are in. Unless, of course, the Almighty positively willed the situation.
You obviously do not know history of the Jews in the world, nor history of a little country named Poland (to name just one). I recommend for you to maybe learn Polish, so you can read the truth about what is going on with the Jews just in Poland for centuries until today. Let me tell you about Communist Poland, the one that Pope John Paul came from……while the Poles could not have their own business, lived in poverty, oppressed and persecuted…… the Jews were thriving……..they owned their own bakeries, jewelry shops, leather goods, doctors, dentists, professors in our Universities, banking, media, government (till today). While the Communists oppressed the Catholics in Poland, the Jews had rights, were able to get their goods from different countries in Europe, to sell to the Polish people for double or even triple…….does this not speak volumes??? How could they have such connections, maybe you can guess? In Communist Poland…..first was a son of a Communist, a son of a Jew, then a son of a Polish family who got into a University. ……there’s a war in Poland fighting for their Catholic faith, that is being threatened at all times, the Jews demanding outrageous recompense for the suffering they have endured, doing the WWII, as if Poland declared the war, as if Poland has opened the concentration camps, as if the Jews were the only ones, that ever suffered on this planet earth. My family lived both in Russia, and in Poland with the Jews…….volumes can and has been written about it, for those who love ‘truth’. My uncles were in Siberia for 25 years, my whole family (Catholics, mind you) was taken on the train straight to a camp in Germany. And they were not the only ONES!!! YOU did NOT have to be a Jew to suffer a persecution, or death!!!
One of the brain washed Catholics, (JPII pupil) has written recently, that what happened to the Jews doing the WWII, was the worst crime in human history…..O really!!! ……what about Catholic lives, the blood that has been shed in every century…….only our Father in Heaven knows, and He keeps track of the numbers Deo Gratias!……Are Catholics screaming to the world about the evil that has been done in the Name of Jesus Christ?
Holocaust has become a religion, especially, in this country……people are so naive, truth is being twisted to ones liking, to whatever is pleasing to the itching ears.
For a better picture, so you will know what you are talking about, please read “The International Jew (Poland) by Henry Ford, also, “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit” by E. Michael Jones. First learn facts, and than voice your opinion! There’s plenty of people that are oppressed by the very clever, wise as a serpent…… till today. Do not ever repeat your nonsense. But, then again you’re just a very good pupil of John Paul II, who has misled so many with his false ecumenism, false love of a neighbour……while compromising ‘truth’.
Also, read some encyclicals, such as A Quo Primum
Encyclical of Pope Benedict XIV promulgated on June 14, 1751. Get educated.
“He who rejects me rejects Him who sent me?” (Luke 10:16)
Viva Cristo Rey!
As much as I would like to agree with you I can not. The fact that men like Voris call Louie and other Catholics “reactionaries” which is a clearly a Marxist phrase has a context and reality is not a conspiracy theory.
Avoiding the topic of the Jews is pseudo trad nonsense. We can not even begin to understand why we have the horror of CMTV and Voris without understanding the context of who the Church’s enemies are.
The three enemies of the Church are the Jews, the Communists and the Masons. I would describe CMTV as a opus dei agitational propaganda operation. The link between Opus dei and Marxism is not known well enough. Reality matters.
Seriously read Synagogue Rising. Read the plot against the church by maurice pinay. Read synagogue of satan by andrew carrington hitchcock. Read the protocols of the elders of zion.
Here is the audio book protocols of the elders of zion:
Dear piokolby, Thank you for the link. I will read THE PLOT
AGAINST THE CHURCH BY MAURICE PINAY ( 1962)
In just a cursory reading I have already found a factual error:
In Appendix XIV – THE POLICE CHIEFS. C.E.K.A. (CHEKA) (1919)
1. Derzhin (Derzinsky), Supreme Chief of the C.E.K.A. (CHEKA); Jew.
Pinay lists Dzerinsky as a Jew, but in fact this mass murderer in charge of the Soviet secret police , actually was from a noble Catholic Polish family. Felix Dzerzhinsky was born on September 11, 1877 in a country estate of Dzerzhinovo, near Vilnius/ Minsk. He was brought up a Catholic and as a young man Dzerzhinsky was reportedly determined to become a priest. After a profound moral crisis, probably the shooting death of his sister, the young man turned to atheism and revolution and Bolshevism.
So a founder of the Soviet Union, a major player, a ruthless Communist under Lenin, with a well documented biography no less, Mr. Pinay lists falsely as a Jew.
This type of sloppy scholarship of these types a documents as they get passed around the internet make me suspect them…sorry.
To rest of commenters: I will not debate this issue again on this blog out of respect for the rules and also, I do not debate persons who hide behind screen names. If a man cannot stand behind what he writes, then in my opinion he is less of a man.
Michael F Poulin
There’s no business like shoah business…
Interview with a Jewish fella who’s parents both survived the camps. If it came from a non-Jewish person they’d string him up for anti-Semitism.
Guess these comments kinda went way off topic, eh?
A council can NOT be called to depose a pope. It cannot take place….the idea is heretical.
The TRUE jews are the enemy of the Catholic Church (this USED to be a foregone accepted fact before Catholics en masse became useless cowards)….and like you say,we arent talking about the jewish family down the street. Anyone who actually has a problem with that needs to sign up for the Jorge Bergoglio monthly news letter already and be give up on Catholicism. Its disgusting when even the supposed good Catholics are caving into the nonsense.
Cantate Domino Pope Eugene IV: learn it, memorize it, live it.
Powerful post…thank you.
Here is what people (including Jews) are saying on a mainstream Jewish website.
@Piokolby: You are reading my suggestion too broadly. I didn’t say not to talk about the traditional enemies of the Truth at all (even the blog host occasionally has posts dealing with them). Rather, I suggested that commenters not argue in the com box about their pet theories regarding disputed historical events when such arguments would only play into the hands of the traditional enemies of the Truth.
On the other hand, I have no problem at all in identifying revolutionary movements (e.g., marxism) that do not seek to spread the Gospel of Our Lord as the false gospels they are and those who spread such anti-gospels as the anti-Christs they are.
This does not involve conspiracy theories or disputed facts and only requires that we deal with the public, undeniable positions that have been taken by the traditional enemies of the Truth, e.g.,
Such “teaching” is obviously a false gospel and is spread by those who are not doing the work of Our Lord. Our job is to fight such false gospels by spreading the Gospel of Our Lord.
Note, that Justice Kennedy managed to establish, at least as regards to so-called “gay marriage”, reform judaism as the
“state religion” of the US in the recent “gay marriage” decision. This shows that we need not resort to so-called “conspiracy theories” [please note the ironic use of “scare quotes”] to battle the traditional enemies of the Truth – their public agenda provides more than enough grounds of contention.
Dear Rich, such Council or even small group of Cardinals or bishops (modernist heretics would not take part in such) would not depose a pope. They would make a declaration of fact that the apparent pope was in fact a formal heretic, and by that fact had lost the office. The formal heresy is the cause of the loss of office but for the certainty of the Church and to avoid confusion or abuse, a group of bishops must convene to make the official public declaration on the proven facts of manifest, pertinacious heresy. I’ll leave the answer there; there is authority for this. God bless. Your sister in Christ.
“The Vatican’s relationship with the CIA in fighting Communism is well known……just sayin……. 2+2=4. That relationship has been very harmful for the Church. This relationship is why Medjugorje was not condemned in the 80’s by John Paul II. ”
You obviously meant “Folcolore” not “Medjugorje”.
Please check your sources w/r/t Felix Dzerzhinsky. He was in fact a Polish nobleman from a very good Catholic family.
Sad to admit, but true…
Sorry about the alast email. I say the “J” word behind said individual and rushed to correct w/o reading further.
Must have been the “hot, yet rational” Polish blood. 🙂
Good one Mar!
The average jew down the street or the jewish kid you went to high school with may not be a big macher and may not be involved in NWO civilization- and nation-wrecking activities, but he may still be spreading a false gospel. Many such apparent so-called “mensches” can do much harm to the faithful in the aggregate.
“He that is not with me is against me, and whoever doe not gather with me scatters.” Matthew 12 : 30
More false gospels:
I hear ya brother. But what’s a macher and a mensches?
Google: crypto jew
I meant Medjugorje. Folcolore and the neocatechumenal way are not groups I pay much attention to clearly they are new church monsters.
My comment about Medjugorje comes from the work of E. Michael Jones (yes I know he is an idiot on the SSPX) I think his work on the Jews and Medjugorje is sound.
No Voris is a product of the revolution and the revolution is JEWISH.
A kingdom divided is no kingdom at all. Those of whom Christ spoke were in no way part of the kingdom of God. When the Antichrist arrives he will do so in all manner of miracles and lies. Shamans ‘cast out’, demons. To attribute the authority of the Church to anyone who ‘casts out demons’ is -in true VII fashion- to adhere to the Frankenchurch where church is actually as unecessary as Christ. After all, Bergoglio’s favourite exorcist is a Lutheran…Ripperger’s argument makes Church and hierarchy defunct.
“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Council of Florence–Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)
“With Faith urging us we are forced to believe and to hold the one, holy, Catholic Church and that, apostolic, and we firmly believe and simply confess this Church outside of which there is no salvation nor remission of sin… Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by absolute necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, Nov. 18, 1302)
The Novus Ordo/VII reject very plainly the above Catholic dogma. Ripperger, like Bergoglio, are in communion with the rejection of this dogma-they are therefore, at the most protestants, but Bergoglio is more than likely the anti-Catholic atheist communist his words and deeds profess him to be…and yet the Ripperger’s of the Protestant Novus Ordo world try to convince the world he has Catholic authority.
The problem with Medjugorje is that it only appeared in 1981. It would have been hard to put together an organization behind the Iron Curtain, like Focolore put together post WWII.
But in all fairness to Michael Jones, I have not read the book.
Fr. Hesse vs. Michael Voris Showdown
“Where Would We Get a True Pope?
IF THE POST-VATICAN II popes are not true popes, how might the Church one day get a true pope again? Here are some theories: 1. Direct Divine Intervention. This scenario is found in the writings of some approved mystics.
2. The Material/Formal Thesis. This holds that should a post-
Vatican II pope publicly renounce the heresies of the post-
Conciliar Church, he would automatically become a true pope.
3. An Imperfect General Council. The theologian Cajetan (1469–
1534) and others teach that, should the College of Cardinals be-
come extinct, the right to elect a pope would devolve to the
clergy of Rome, and then to the universal Church. (de Compara-
tione 13, 742, 745) Each of these seems to present some difficulties. But this should not be surprising, because the precise solution to an unusual problem in the Church cannot always be predicted before-hand. This can be seen from the following comment in the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia: “No canonical provisions exist regulating the authority of the College of Cardinals sede Romanâ impeditâ, i.e. in case the pope became insane, or personally a heretic; in such cases it would be necessary to consult the dictates of right
reason and the teachings of history.” (“Cardinal,” CE 3:339)
Moreover, an inability at present to determine exactly how
another true pope would be chosen in the future does not some how make Paul VI and his successors into true popes by default.Nor does it change what we already know: that the post-Conciliar popes promulgated errors, heresies and evil laws; that a heretic cannot be a true pope; and that promulgating evil laws is incompatible with possessing authority from Jesus Christ.To insist despite this that the post-Conciliar popes must be true popes creates an insoluble problem for the indefectibility of the Church — Christ’s representatives teach error and give evil. Whereas a long vacancy of the Holy See, as noted in Appendix 4, is not contrary to the indefectibility or the nature of the Church.”
“It is Catholic doctrine that God performs miracles only in confirmation of the truth. It would be blasphemous to assert that He does so in confirmation of error, since it would be against His holiness and truthfulness to do so.”
Just as it is blasphemous for Bergoglio to assert that a Lutheran can be an ‘exorcist’ in Christ’s name. even worse, his ‘favourite exorcist’; likewise, if we know that the Novus Ordo is no more Christ’s Catholic Church than the Church of England (occupying former Catholic Sees), along with Lutherans and all other manner of non-Catholics, then it is blasphemous to assert any miracles from the Novus Ordo as ‘proof’ of God’s approval.
No need to get me started…I was simply trying to be nice when i seconded craig’s use of the “jewish person down the street”. Trust me when I tell you that me and political correctness do NOT get along. I hear perfectly well what you are saying. As a true jew, no matter how far down the ladder you are, you are OF COURSE an enemy of the Church.
In the case of the Franciscan Friars of The Immaculate, Mr. Voris was Oh So SILENT. The Silence eas UTTERLY DEAFENING.
His Vortexcellency is broadcasting a series on The Vortex called “SSPX Sadness.”
Talk About PRIDE & POSSESSION!
Michael Voris is POSSESSED BY HIS PRIDE.