From the very earliest moments of his pontificate, hardly a week has passed without Pope Francis, at the very least, causing great confusion among many of the faithful. Often, his words and his deeds have been outright scandalous.
The papal improprieties of the past twenty-seven months are so numerous and so well-known that there is little need to list them here.
Besides, doing so will be of no avail for those who welcome the church-of-man, or who choose, as a deliberate act of the will, to bury their heads in the neo-conservative sandbox.
Looking ahead, all indications are that Pope Francis is about to outdo himself with the promulgation of an encyclical on the environment.
In the more distant future, should the Lord choose to allow the Franciscan scourge to continue for another two years, the eyes of the world will witness the Successor to St. Peter celebrating the protestant revolt; the same that ushered in a pseudo-Christianity that dares to promote homosexual mock-marriages, divorce, contraception, abortion, female “priests” (practicing lesbians, included), and any number of other abominations, all in the name of Christ.
What can one say about such a pope?
Why does he do such things?
What is he thinking?
Numerous theories attempting to explain the man abound.
For example, some wish to believe that Pope Francis (who, after all, is a “son of the Church” – he said so himself) is the smartest guy in the room; a brilliant tactician employing a strategy for converting the world to Christ that is so masterful in its subtlety that we, his subjects, cannot even begin to comprehend it.
On the flip side are those who say that the man is just plain stupid.
Others are more Benedictine in their “interpretation” of Francis’ more disturbing words and deeds; twisting themselves into knots in an attempt to wring “continuity” out of whole heretical cloth.
Others still, having long since taken up membership in the church-of-man, see Pope Francis as a breath of fresh air in spite of the Holy Catholic Church’s near complete suffocation.
For my part, it seems that if nothing else is clear, it is entirely obvious that Pope Francis isn’t the least bit serious about performing the duties of the Office of Peter, at least not as they have been understood for nearly 2,000 years.
He’s also a walking “do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do” operation in hypocrisy.
He is a man who speaks rather often of “unity” while dividing like none other, who promotes “humility” while staging magnificent displays that call attention directly to himself, who trumpets collegiality while enforcing his will on the majority, who decries gossiping and name-calling while offering homilies with material that would make an insult comic blush, and so on.
At the end of the day, I think the most accurate explanation for his unseemly behavior is simply this:
Pope Francis hates the Catholic faith.
Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen once famously remarked:
There are not more than one hundred people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive the Catholic Church to be.
I’m not so sure he had this right, but in any case, let’s be perfectly clear; as it concerns the hatred that lurks within Pope Francis, it’s not a matter of knowing not of what he despises.
Pope Francis knows the Catholic faith, he “gets” the Catholic faith, he is well aware of the Catholic faith; he simply hates it.
No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. (Matthew 6:24)
What is mammon?
Mammon is typically considered to mean “riches,” and what’s more, riches in which one puts undue stock; even to the point of devoting oneself to them.
Though “mammon” most often calls to mind money, it need not be so exclusively.
In the verses preceding Mt. 6:24, Our Lord gives a lengthy discourse wherein He offers three examples of “hypocrites” who have “received their reward;” namely, men who practice piety, give alms, and fast in such way as to win the acclaim of others.
With this understanding in mind, can there be any doubt that Pope Francis loves him some mammon?
I suppose one might argue that it’s not so much that Pope Francis seeks mammon so understood, much less loves it, but even if this be so, there can be no arguing against the fact that mammon has been heaped upon this man and his pontificate unlike any other.
Pope Francis enjoys immense, indeed unprecedented popularity among heathens, homos and heretics, and not without reason.
And let’s not be naïve; it most certainly isn’t because he strikes an image of Christ so clear and compelling as to be irresistible.
No serious observer of this pontificate will contend that Pope Francis is so loved for his intrepidness in teaching the one true faith.
Rather, it is most certainly the case that he is loved by so many for the exact opposite reason; he hates the one true faith.
This much is entirely evident if one simply allows the man to speak for himself.
A supposed soundness of doctrine or discipline leads instead to a narcissistic and authoritarian elitism…
In some people we see an ostentatious preoccupation for the liturgy, for doctrine and for the Church’s prestige…
I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God…
I would not speak about “absolute” truths, even for believers…
Do you need to convince the other to become Catholic? No, no, no!
To those sincere souls who still feel compelled to “figure out” the complexities of Pope Francis vis-à-vis his deeply disturbing words and deeds; do yourself a favor and just stop.
The impetus for the current papal program is at once exceedingly simple, and immensely tragic:
Pope Francis hates the Catholic faith.
Francis is the biblical false prophet he has too destroy the faith so the antichrist can take his place.
This is among the most telling endorsements Francis has received thus far (and that’s saying a lot, considering he’s received endorsements from sodomites like Elton John)
Al Gore (0:20): Is the pope catholic? (laughter)…
It seems even heretics can see what neo-catholics cannot – namely that the emperor has no clothes.
“Woe to you when men shall bless you: for according to these things did their fathers to the false prophets.”
What is the source document for the last quote by Francis? “… not a Catholic God…”
Louie, I disagree. Poor Francis loves the Catholic Church – but he’s going to love it even more when he has moulded it into the Church he, as a Marxist, sees as perfect.
He is a Marxist. He grew up in a Marxist atmosphere, went to school with men of like mind, and he spews Marxism with every word. This is Our Lady’s prophesy of Russia (the good old Russia of Marx/Lenin not the newbies like Putin) spreading her errors throughout the world. We don’t have to fear Putin. We have to fear the children of Marx like Francis, those at the UN, Obama and Clinton, and almost all socialist-leaning regimes.
When you read Francis through Marx you get it. We should be afraid, really afraid that our beloved Church will be rubble soon. I’m so happy Our Dear Lord has spared my soul/brain/heart from drinking this poison. I’m getting old and I mourn that I won’t be around to help raise a pure faithful Church from the rubble. But I can pray.
Was Bergoglio canonically elected to be Pope?
Food for thought!
Louie, you hit the nail on the head. Once you understand the Pope hates the Catholic Church everything he does makes perfect sense. The question now is, “What do we do about it?”
“Who is so wise, as to know all things?”
Thomas a Kempis
In an interview with Eugenio Scalfari, an avowed atheist and founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Pope Francis said, “I believe in God. Not in a Catholic God; there is no Catholic God, there is God.” Here’s a link to a news account:
Barbara, Agreed. Until his head starts spinning on his shoulders, we need to refrain from emphatically stating our nagging suspicions.
Hi Mike. We don’t have suspicions – it is a certainty that there is something terribly wrong in this papacy. In my mind Poor Francis is an ideologue and is simply following his plan. I did read somewhere that he said he was not going to change himself because he was elected – he was just going to follow his personal style – and we know the disaster he caused in Argentina.
He is not a madman although he seems a little unstable at times. What has happened is he has become a lightening rod. All the Modernist Heresy has bubbled over because he has thrown open the gates to the barbarians. He is allowing all the evil to come to the forefront. He tells people to ‘make a mess’ – that’s what revolutionaries do. He allows all sorts of heterodox ideas to be discussed when he should be condemning them – part of what revolutionaries do.
He is pitting rich against poor – revolution. He knows the power of the media and uses it – revolutionaries do that first. As a modernist and Marxist he also knows how to manipulate masses of people – revolution!
Marx and all his followers want to destroy so they can rebuild – in the image they see as total revolution – always revolution – this is also evolution – all rushing ahead – convergence – always forward – novelties – feed the masses cheap bread and cheap wine and cheap entertainment.
If only Poor Francis was a tin-pot dictator in some backwater of the world he could live out his dreams until someone came along and ousted him. But he is a tin-pot dictator of The Catholic Church.
There has been some talk against Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider because they don’t come right out and call for Francis’ downfall – they don’t suggest the ways we could get rid of him – well, I think Bishop Schneider said it best – Francis answers to God. We will have to put up with him and try to pick up the pieces when he has gone to his judgement. God help him.
When Lori said you hit the nail on the head, now you’ve got no place to hang your hat. It seems you let your hot Italian blood put you in an absolutist position. While it may be a fool’s errand to prove you wrong, I believe it was wrong to say it. Looking around this log, I think I can see the speck. This is judging, not prudential judgment. If you had left it at the, “At the end of the day, I think the most accurate explanation for his unseemly behavior is simply this:”, it would be edging the line at speculation. But your final declarative sentence was, IMHO, too much.
Great article. Thank you
“What do you think? A man had two sons; he went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work in the vineyard today. ’ He answered, ‘I will not’; but later he changed his mind and went. The father went to the second and said the same; and he answered, ‘I go, sir’; but he did not go. Which of the two did the will of his father?”
People sometimes say one thing….then go on to behave unexpectedly in a different fashion…be it Louie, or Pope Francis
One can only love what one knows…
In that case Bergoglio, at the very least, doesn’t know the Catholic Church, ergo, he cannot possibly love the Mystical Body of Christ.
This is perhaps the most important post that I have read on this blog to date.
Of course, I would add to the list of stand-out Bergoglian quotes, “God does not exist”. This statement is false both outright and in the context in which he said it. He immediately followed up these words with, “Do not be shocked”. Why would he think to say that? What could possibly be shocking in this utterance? Could he have avoided making it – easily?
I will not accept the arrant nonsense that, using these words, Bergoglio “teaches like a Catholic”. What catechism is this from? What natural theology is this? No Catholic will ever repeat what he said. Some people ought to quietly meditate on why that is. One cannot brush over a manifestly false statement against faith no matter how many other apparently true statements accompany it.
I am with Louie. The Pope is destroying the Church and it doesn’t do any good to pretend or speak as though he isn’t. We cannot know what is in his mind and we cannot know what is on his conscience or soul, but we have ears, eyes and a Catholic heart that is pressed more with every word that he says. His own writer Archbishop Fernandez said that he knows exactly what he is doing and I think that says it. Remember when, right after the election, he told the cardinals “may God forgive you”? For the love of God and His Holy Church, we are praying for Francis and those cardinals, may God forgive them.
No one but God, but we can know the Pope is not Catholic.
Note the torch overlying the Templar cross on Bergoglio’s pallium in the photo at the head of this post. This torch has great symbolism and is not worn by mistake:
“But the Illuminati have another well known symbol: the “torch” that, other than showing up between the horns of the Baphomet, in many paintings, pictures and prints glorifies the “spirit” and the “genius” of the French Revolution, that is the
same Order of the Illuminati that had been the true soul and the driving force of this Revolution which offers the “torch” to man, to free him from God and from His Law.”
“Sorting all this symbology, in a Masonic hierarchical meaning, in the spiritual field, we have the following sequence:
1. The Latin Cross signifies the Catholic Religion, for the use
2. The Templar Cross signifies the Gnostic-Masonic Religion
with its three Masonic Cults, for the use by Masons;
3. The Templar Cross, as a Pyramid, signifies the Atheistic
and Communist Doctrine of the Illuminati of Bavaria;
4. The Torch, above the Templar Cross, signifies the Supreme
Pontiff of Universal Masonry also called Patriarch of the World. The Templar Cross, deriving its forms from square-based pyramid surmounting a cube, representing the Pyramid, known satanic symbol of the Order of the Illuminati of Bavaria. The torch across the Templar Cross, placed over the heart, indicates the Patriarch of the World, or Patriarch of Freemasonry, or Supreme Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, or Supreme Head of the Illuminati, or better yet “the Second Beast that comes from the earth with two horns like a lamb but speaking the same language of a dragon”, of the Apocalypse of St. John.”
Traditionally, the Papal pallium had 5 red crosses – the vertical arm being longer than the horizontal – which symbolized the 5 Wounds of Christ.
Bergoglio’s pallium has 6 TEMPLAR crosses. The templar cross is constructed from 4 triangles, or pyramids, meeting in a central POINT and has specific Kabalistic meaning. The central point is the Kabalistic Crown which is lucifer in person.
The 6 templar crosses represent:
1. Cult of Phallus. 2. lucifer. 3. Cult of lucifer. 4. Emperor of the World. 5. Patriarch of the World. 6. Cult of Man.
The torch above symbolizes one of the three beasts of the anti-Christ, the masonic Third Trinity i.e. the anti-Christ formed by lucifer, the Emperor of the World and the Patriarch of the World.
Bergoglio does not hate the Catholic Faith – he, like his judeo-masonic conciliar predecessors, LOATHES it, as lucifer loathes Christ. http://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Pallio_1_e_2__BXVI__en.pdf
I take the counsel of St Joseph…
lorirevealer, here are some ideas regarding what we can do: http://www.novusordowatch.org/now-what.htm
“No Catholic will ever repeat what he said.” (and one could list many other utterances besides the one highlighted above).
Correct, and that brings us right to the very root of the problem we are facing with Bergoglio…
I’d take a lot of what is in that article with a pinch of salt.
Here is a sober summary of the history behind the pallium.
“On June 29, 2014, after using Benedict XVI’s second pallium for more than a year, Pope Francis restored the traditional pallium worn by popes prior to Benedict.”
So we agree: Poor Francis is destroying the Catholic Church. You say “he knows what he is doing” and I agree, of course he knows what he is doing.
Where we differ is in this: you believe (correct me if I misunderstand you) his goal is to destroy the Church. I believe his goal (and the goal of his followers) is to CHANGE the Church into a Marxist paradise – and we know how that’s going to go.
This post brings to mind how the French people must have felt when their entire country was overrun by the Nazis in WWII. To make things worse their government collaborated and until the country was liberated, they licked Nazi boots – all for “peace.”
This is a good analogy to what has happened. We have been overrun by Satan and his minions – our Church has capitulated completely and now the pope is the lick-spittal. The barque is taking on water!
But there were many who joined the French Resistance. So too we must resist. This is what Cardinal Burke has stated: if things get really bad, I will resist (paraphrase). We think things are bad enough now, and disagree with him and want him to act – he’s waiting to see what happens in October…but he is resisting in his daily life right now…in smaller ways than outright disobedience. He and Bishop Schneider know that staying with Peter is the only way. To get out of the barque would be disaster. Both of them are travelling around the world, giving talks and sermons, saying Catholic Masses, trying to rally the faithful for the resistance effort they know is coming.
Think of St. Paul resisting St. Peter “to his face.” St. Paul did not leave St. Peter because where would he go? He resisted but stayed loyal – NOT to Peter the man, but to Peter the ROCK.
That’s the whole point I’m trying to make (in a round about way). We must resist, but stay with “Peter” as the Papacy. We can resist Poor Francis because he is an office holder – he is not the Rock – the Papacy is the Rock. We can know this for sure because there have been bad popes before (yes, in different ways) but the basic principle is the same.
Sedevacantists have left the barque and float near it in the hope that once the pilot changes they can climb back in.
The Society of St. Pius X have stayed in the barque, and resist all efforts to pry them out. They know the pilot will change but the Papacy will remain, and they want to be there when it happens.
The Borg quote “resistance is futile” is the mantra of new-church. But resistance is the only way. Each of us in his or her parish – resist but stay in the barque.
That makes sense….and become a saint yourself.
Dear Dumb Ox,
If you and others who insist on clinging to this statement regardless of the facts which we have attempted to demonstrate prove otherwise, then we hope you are ready and willing to stand before God some day and account for the damage they do, IF we are right and you are wrong, as we believe to be the case.
This pope has repeatedly used theatrics to do his teaching, often including words and phrases he hopes will “shock” people–apparently believing it a good way to get their attention, and drive his points home. If he does not concern himself enough with how his words are taken by people not present who later read them in the press, he will account to God for that some day, as well. We personally think all his false beliefs overwhelm the good he tries to do, and if he doesn’t change those before he dies, this reckless negligence or incompetence, whatever it is, will be a relatively insignificant item on the list of God’s charges against him. We’ve done our best to present the facts, and stand by the principle that truth matters, even if it points to his innocence of heresy on this one matter.
If the Church is indefectible, she can not provide false rites/disciplines and evil practices/teachings. If we know that the subsequent pastoral interpretations of the teachings of the CVII have been disastrous/blasphemous precisely by the popes that promulgated them and the ones who followed them, it is clear these people can not be true popes because they don’t have the Faith of St, Peter. I don’t think this is difficult to grasp.
What happens is that all the hierarchy behind these popes have been saying “amen” all the way up to Francis. That means they have adhered to the same evil practices and teaching derived from the CVII in more or less degree. If one thing is clear is that the major tenets of the CVII are ambiguous at best, which by the way defines their intrinsic liberal nature. The ambiguity leads to the right or to the left as long as you hold the liberal principle. Clearly Pope Francis leans to the left in comparison with the previous popes but that does not make the previous post CVII popes catholic in the traditional sense of the word because they abide to the liberal principles.
The problem that I see before the current set of events, is that many put their hopes in the portion of the hierarchy (big or small) that feels discomfort with the liberal left bent of Pope Francis to actually kick him out of the office on the claim that he is a heretic. My wonder comes from the fact that I can’t see how a heretic can kick out another heretic on the account of heresy. It sounds like that passage from the New Testament where they blame our Lord from being possessed by demons and he explained that demons CAN NOT expell demons.
If the hierarchy is corrup top down from the heresies coming out from CVII we can’t place our hopes in these men leading the return of Rome to the Faith. Plain and simple.
Hey Hoc, for what reason would you take it with a pinch of salt?
We don’t often find ourselves disagreeing with you this strongly.
We know it’s tempting to assign “hate” to him, but not happy to see you give in to it. Determination of a root motivation like that is an action our Faith teaches us is reserved to God alone, because it requires a searching of the depths of a man’s heart and soul–which without special endowment by God, we creatures don’t possess the ability to do with enough certainty. You added the word “likely” your statement about it at one point within the text that followed. We wonder why not do the same in the title, to avoid any slander or libel?
As other viable possibilities for motivation, (IOHO) There are the communism and socialism Barbara pointed out, which mesh easily with the novel teachings of Vatican II (which he’s believes to be the will of God).
Whatever prevents this Pope from bringing people together in that “spirit” that makes them all “feel loved” regardless of their beliefs or moral actions–seems to be become the object of his personal attacks/ and plans for elimination. Naturally large segments of the Traditional Faith will do that–and it’s possible he has found himself even hating them, (God knows what he feels, retains and confesses) but other parts of it don’t, and those he publicly acknowledges often enough to make your statement appear false. Daily prayer, rosary, Mass (including SOME fully Catholic homilies–we’ve seen them), veneration of Saints, visits to Shrines Our Lady… (not making excuses of any of these, just pointing them out as counter to your absolute-sounding statement that –he hates “The Catholic Faith” .
You also say it is MOST CERTAINLY THE CASE that he is loved by so many… BECAUSE “he hates the one true faith.” Statistics report that far fewer people really care about moral teachings these days. And what amounts to his disdain for the True Faith (often viewed as “tolerance” by the world ) is either absent, or not on top of most lists we found online- of reasons people LOVE him . The biggest attractors are his semi-private demonstrations of concern for the downtrodden, i.e. social awareness and global concerns for the poor–all seen as rare and Christlike in a leader. There are of course praises for “Who am I to judge” etc, but mostly we find things like this:
–“his car of choice- a donated 1984 Renault with 190,000 miles on it, shows humility and poverty
— He : washed the feet of poor people, juvenile delinquents, and even a young Muslim girl
— urged Church officials to dress more modestly and to not squander money…ordered a German bishop to explain how he had spent $3 million on a marble courtyard.
— invited a boy with Down’s Syndrome for a ride in the Popemobile with his father, and hugged him.
— embraced and kissed Vinicio Riva, a man scarred by a genetic disease, often mocked in public, fighting agonizing daily pain–restoring his Faith.
— urges the protection of the Amazon Rainforest, as a garden protected, along with it’s native people.
— personally called an Argentinian victim of rape, telling her, “You are not alone.”
— sneaks out of the Vatican at night, to feed the homeless in Rome– dressed as an ordinary priest, he joins Archbishop Konrad Krajewski.
— auctioned his motorcycle to fund a hostel and soup kitchen in Rome.
— denounced the global financial system for tyrannizing the poor-turning humans into expendable consumer goods. He believes “Money has to serve, not to rule”
— fought child abuse by members of the Church. .amended Vatican law to make sexual abuse of children a crime, and established a committee to fight abuse.
— condemned the use of chemical weapons in the Syrian civil war..
— met with youngsters to be part of a truly remarkable “selfie”.
— refused to send away a child who had run on stage to hug him during the Year of Faith Celebrations”
— invited homeless men and their dog, to his birthday meal with staff in the Vatican.
We hope you’ll re-think and retract the harmful absolutes-leaving them as “possibilities ”
God Bless you
Denzinger 469: “… But this authority, although it is given to man and is exercised by man, is not human, but rather divine, and has been given by the divine Word to Peter himself and to his successors in him, whom the Lord acknowledged an established rock, when he said to Peter himself: “Whatsoever you shall bind” etc. [ Matt. 16:19]. Therefore, “whosoever resists this power so ordained by God, resists the order of God” [cf.Rom. 13:2], unless as a Manichaean he imagines that there are two beginnings, which we judge false and heretical, because, as Moses testifies, not “in the beginnings” but “in the beginning God created the heaven and earth” [cf. Gen. 1:1]. Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.”
This you happily ignore, as you freely and according to your own lights, resist your true Pope Francis along with your fellow recognize and resisters in the SSPX. You are a schismatic.
You happily ignore Pope Paul IV and St. Robert Bellarmine who spell out for you that a heretic cannot be Pope.
By now you should know the difference between a “bad” Pope and a heretical pope.
Sedevacantists remain securely in the barque having renounced a false, heretical council and conciliar popes. All the evidence and Catholic doctrine in the world will not convince the willfully blind. They will lament around in circles for ever, going nowhere and deciding nothing, for they lack the courage of the Catholic Faith. Stay in the sinking barque and you will sink with it.
St. Paul confronted St. Peter on a point of theology. After discussion the matter was resolved by authority of St. Peter. This is how theologians have worked ever since. At no time was St. Peter a pertinacious heretic.
We are coming to a point where the proverbial rubber is going to meet the road. Jorge is going to force a lot of good people to finally wake up to the reality of the situation, people who otherwise would have continued to not see what vatican 2 truly is. Jorge’s blatant disregard for Catholicism (a disregard which a simpleton could discern) is PRECISELY why Ratzinger was so much more dangerous. Ratzinger was slick in his deception though, Jorge simply doesnt even care.
Thanks for your concerns, Indignus.
I suspect that you (and others who bristle at the content of this post) would have been far more comfortable had I written, “Pope Francis loves his faith, but it’s not the Faith that comes to us from the Apostles, the Holy Catholic Faith.”
Few reasonably well-informed Catholics would disagree with that statement. Likewise, would few maintain that Francis loves the Catholic faith.
I included the Scripture verse quoting Our Lord for a reason; namely to illustrate that in loving a faith that can scarcely be described as the one true faith, Francis hates the Catholic faith.
It’s simple logic.
Indignus, wipe the sentimental tears from your eyes and start reading a bit of Catholic doctrine.
If you open your mouth against your friend,
do not worry, for reconciliation is possible.
Dear IF, Louis needs no defence from me, but the actions you describe also apply to and evident in apostate organizations. Did not Emperor Julian the Apostate attempt to mimic the Church by instituting charitable organizations in his newly formed — but ultimately defeated — pagan religious hierarchy. And 19th and 20th century history is rife with western states all attempting to usurp the ‘charitable’ arm of the church. As a Catholic, do you really support modern ‘civic virtues’ wherein all those thousands and tens of thousands on Sunday mornings partake in this charitable fundraisers and marathons for this or that ‘good cause’ without turning their attention, nor giving a hoot — at least as a whole — to thoughts of God, His Holiness, and the salvation of their souls and the souls of their loved ones? All political correctness is ultimately rooted in the misapplication of “social justice” to justify rebellion against God’s Laws and impiety.
Even the great pagan historian Tacitus, although he believed Christians practiced abomination, in his sincere search for truth stated that the Nero and the Romans convicted Christians to death, “not so much of the crime of burning the city, as of hatred against mankind.”
Don’t be fooled, you traditionalists and sedevacantists and criticizers of the Church of Man are hated and despised as haters of mankind.
The diabolic disorientation of the “well-intentioned” Catholics, the blindness to what is manifest, egregious and constant, is truly the most disturbing thing. These good Catholics have become dull-witted and are refusing to see what they can see in respect of other prelates; they’ve apparently jettisoned the normal discernment that they exhibited prior to Francis becoming pope. This is what is preventing anything being done to put an end to the ongoing scandal of a manifest pertinacious Pope. I have never seen so many people turn away from the truth so quickly as in the past two years. Blessed Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle.
Correction: “Scandal of a pope who is a manifest pertinacious heretic”.
Shouldn’t sedevacantists organize together and elect a pope or something? If they really believe what they say they believe.
Shouldn’t y’all be ordaining bishops and priests left and right and build up the hierarchy again? Lay out diocese and sees and establish a visible head? What in the world are you guys waiting for?
I mean, put your money where your mouth is for crying out loud.
Dear Barbara, there is no comparison between the temporary disagreement between Saints Peter and Paul, before the end of Revelation; and the unprecedented manifest pertinacious heretical behaviour of the current pope. None whatever.
Yes, Mr Verrechio. One of the problems of misunderstanding is the corruption of language. You are using hate in the more conventional way, to refer to a more objective stance and behaviour on the part of the subject; whereas, IF appears to be taking the more modernist, subjective and narrow meaning of “hate” that would reduce it to something entirely internal, in the interior forum, not much more than an emotion.
Language and its corruption in the education system and politics and Media, etc., today has a very detrimental effect on people’s ability to objectively reason, and thus communicate effectively and gain in knowledge and understanding. Of course, this method of language manipulation (underpinned by a false and malevolent philosophy) is used purposely by the powerful elite to better control the populace which is given to believe from a young age through propaganda and other forms of indoctrination that everything bar the material is subjective (and the “experts” know best).
Nope CraigV not the way to go. Of course some nuts have already done it. See wiki’s very derogatory piece on sedes. Us good sedes are just Catholics sticking to what the magisterium and Scripture have always taught us.
The article no doubt brings up a number of interesting points, but it shouldn’t have tried to decipher EVERY single minute aspect of the alleged symbolism of the six “Templar” crosses. It would have been better to give a general outline of the anomalies on the new pallium, which at any rate, according to the Wikipedia article linked above, is no longer worn by Francis, so not really relevant anymore to Bergoglio’s tenure in the Vatican.
I would class myself as one of those dull-witted, well intentioned Catholics….I might even be bold enough to say that I try to love and pray for Pope Francis…with the words of the first Pope as food for meditation.
“Above all, maintain constant love for one another, for love covers a multitude of sins.”
If he hates the Catholic faith how can he even be a member of it, let alone the pope? To be a Catholic one must solemnly accept and believe all dogmatically revealed truth and if even one article of faith is denied one ceases to be a Catholic. This is obviously the case with the manifest heretic Bergoglio, he’s NOT the pope. In fact, he’s not even Catholic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_JL8_Wa-k
I agree a general outline would have been sufficient for us ordinary guys, but for people like Fr. Luigi who worked in the field, expert knowledge is necessary. Its like any subject, if you want to really know about it, you have to study it in detail. If Bergoglio is not wearing Benedict’s pallium anymore, maybe he’s got a new one of his own. So let’s keep our eyes open for up to date photos and see whether his new pallium has SIX TEMPLAR crosses and whether he’s wearing the TORCH. You haven’t convinced me however, that the article needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. 🙂 Another point is why would any Pope EVER wear judeo-masonic symbols? Did you see the photo of Paul VI wearing the ephod?
Your’re welcome. Our concern is genuine, as always. No, we wouldn’t be happier seeing you start it off with a declaration of his Love for the Faith, either, (as that also is a judgment). Putting your statement in question form is a suggestion- which could have allowed you to discuss the matters while avoiding declaring it a fact-which then travelled around the globe in seconds when posted.
We didn’t miss the point of your comparison with the Scripture quote about two masters and subsequent application of logic. We’re saying that teaching was meant to be applied as personal examination for spiritual guidance, and not as a standard for judging the interior disposition of others- which is expressly forbidden by God at all times. It deals with our human natures–and their attractions to created things vs. attraction to God, and how that grows over time as we make choices that set things more deeply in our hearts. Eventually attraction turns to love which fills us; and if it worldly, it ends up as obsession, as money often does. If it’s heavenly
directed, we grow as we are designed to– in love of God. Whatever we reject becomes the “hated” thing in that lesson, as ultimately, no man can serve two masters. It doesn’t imply that money or anything created is intrinsically bad, just that we need to guard against becoming obsessed by it, by making proper use of it, and being
vigilant about our use of time.
Because of that ongoing process, only the individual and God know with certainty where they are in that scenario, (attraction to love or obsession), at any given moment in time, and it can shift back and forth depending on each free will choice they make. So you can’t take the Pope’s “mammon” (popularity for false beliefs?); juxtapose it against The True Faith and claim that- (using that teaching about two masters), voila–we have a snapshot provided of a soul which you declare has in your judgment, reached that point of HATING the One Master -The Catholic Faith; and by logical extension you also declare him having reached a point of (obsessively) LOVING the other Master (Popularity for false beliefs).
The above scenario could be the reality, for all we know. But the point is one should only be observing and doing educated guessing at most, while hoping and praying for the best outcome for the soul of the Pope in this ongoing battle. Only God and the Pope know if Pope Francis really “hates” the Catholic Faith in the sense it is used in that teaching, or any other.
We used the word Hate in the sense of the Scripture in which Louie reminded us that he also used, and if we understand what you are saying here, not in the way you are suggesting.
Sorry but you apparently misread that part of our post. We were not praising Pope Francis for any civic virtue, or for anything at all.
We simply made the point to Louie that the internet was loaded with evidence that the CAUSE of Pope Francis’ popularity—which Louie attributed solely to people being attracted by his ” hatred for the Catholic Faith” was being attributed by people primarily to those types of activities which he was performing both publicly and semi-publicly. There were references to praise for things such as “Who am I to judge” but we found them down low on many lists, or not there at all. And of course there are also people such as Louie described.
This was just a matter of reporting other people’s opinions–a fact check, if you will..
Dear Ever mindful,
Beautiful quote, but the self-classification can use a little work
Too many good citations appear here regularly, to believe a dull-witted noggin is responsible for the searching, finding, and posting of them.. you’re busted. 🙂 🙂
Normally I’d just pass on by, but to this I gotta say, “HUH?”.
Dear Ever Mindful, Good judgment and discernment avails of true love and prayer for the good of another’s soul, especially the soul who opposes the Faith.
Great video. If only everybody would watch it!
This is the key to this papacy. Francis knows what he has been taught. Marxism, liberation theology, evolution – pride, temptations of arrogance and delusions – steep yourself in this brew of error and what do you get: Poor Francis, and his cohort. For revolutionaries, revolution is good. For Francis this comes out in his infamous words: make a mess.
I stand by this perennial philosophical psychology: no one chooses evil as evil. The hand reaches out to a perceived good – Satan makes sure evil looks like a good. Those of a revolutionary, evolutionary mindset grasp all these evils truly believing they are good.
All we can do at this point is learn our Faith and be ready to preach it when asked. When the chastisements come there will be many desperate souls thirsting for Truth.
You are right there, Rich. And the smell of burning rubber is going to be very unpleasant around the end of October. Then we will begin to see the separation of the sheep and the goats.
I agree with Mike to a certain extent. We cannot know Poor Francis motives other than to see where he comes from: revolution, evolution, the Vatican II modernism.
We can and must judge his words and actions – that’s all we’ve got, and boy, it’s plenty.
But to attribute ‘hatred’ of the Church to this man is not productive and something we cannot know.
Have we not forgotten Our Lady’s words at Quito, Akita, and Fatima? She told us this would come. I think it is possible for a pope to try to re-direct the Church – down an evil path – without us arguing whether this constitutes formal heresy or not. And as Bishop Schneider says God will judge him, and the future Church will condemn him, and right the barque. We also forget that those who choose to follow Francis do so with free will. Why don’t WE follow him? God has a mysterious plan – we are ALL tempted today to listen to crap that sounds like music. Why do some chose to listen to Francis and other don’t? Can we even ask this question when we know that Our Loving Father will test all men in this way? It’s hard to understand but Jesus Himself said that God blinds some because He knows they WILL to be blind to His Truth. No argument will work against willful blindness. So hard to get this into our heads: This Loving Father does not condemn anyone to Hell. He gives the choice and each one chooses.
This is a tactic of Satan: we argue over Poor Francis status, instead of going to principles and forging ahead with Truth. Saul Alinski taught this to all his acolytes: foment, pit one against the other, get people arguing about minituae so the larger points will sail by.
I believe we do this when we argue about Holy Mass to the exclusion of all else. Or when we argue whether this pope is a heretic or not.
To my mind we simply repeat what the Church has always taught as the way to counteract everything Francis says. And speak this Truth instead of arguing about less important things.
Yes, and strive to become holy.
Lynda, there is similarity. What you see as ‘sheer volume’ is less important than the content.
To my mind the basic problem with Poor Francis is this:
He preaches a faith that conforms to ‘the world’ instead of preaching a Faith that tells man that he will be judged on his holiness and nothing else. (Personal holiness, of course, includes the temporal and spiritual works of mercy.)
This obvious to anyone who remembers why we are here. We were created to know, love, and serve God. Period. There are as many ways to do that as there are human beings created.
Francis has reduced this plan to a worldly service. Never, never, never does he suggest that the true way is duty, mortification, and penance. Out of these three basics flow all the other actions we must perform at God’s direction.
Because this simple truth is not taught to Catholics, and has not been taught for almost 60 years, we have two or three generations who are ripe for Francis’ message of love and mercy to the exclusion of duty, mortification and penance.
Bottom line: the world has become our standard. The world is the enemy. Francis is leading souls into hell because he no longer teaches his flock how to get to heave.
Dear Barbara, there is no qualitative similarity. The Deposit of Faith was fixed from the death of the last apostle. The issues with Pope Francis are in respect of opposition to the Deposit of Faith. God bless.
Did I type ‘heave’ instead of heaven? We ‘heave’ when we are asked to swallow the new world order!
Suggestion. Take every sermon, off-the-cuff remark, or written word of this Poor Pope and hold it up to the template of Tradition. That way we will learn exactly where this Poor Pope goes off the rails. Many comments reflect this and I’ve learned much, but just recently when a commenter has quoted some of Francis’ supposed ‘good’ stuff I took a closer look – all crap wrapped in nicey-nice.
I think all of us here have access to perennial Truth. Looking at Francis’ words and comparing them to Traditional Magisterial teaching is like taking a Theology course!
Yes, very eloquent on the material points. I would like to see definitive answers to these. Especially the fact that the argument, that the papal office could continue to be held in the exterior and canonical realm until a formal declaration by authorities was made, was overruled by later theologians from Bellarmine (Saint and doctor of th e Church) and by Council of Vatican I in 1869/1870.
Right on Target, (as usual) (Ever think of starting your own blog? -Not that we want you out of here, but in truth, dear sister in Christ, you have an exceptional gift — brain to keyboard- wise.)
Yes. Poor Francis, as you call him, with his Everybody- just Feel-the Love and don’t bother about our differences of doctrine –approach, meets people where they are “in the world” which means they are often
in mortal sin and ignorant of what they need to get out of it. He’ll often do lunch and encourage charity work and interfaith prayer, before leaving them worse than he found them–with the added illusion that the head of the Catholic Church views them as having all they need to get to heaven. This indifferentism is packaged and labeled as Christian love, tolerance, openness, welcoming, -the Church’s new image. It leads Catholics out of the Church. A few come in, by the Grace of God, and they point to them as the proof that this is the route the Holy Spirit mapped out for the Church at VII.
We need to recover the old missionary boldness to speak the unpopular Truth to the whole world, that there is only One, True Church, and all other religions are composed of some falsehoods which never originate with God.
When you feel up to it, please elaborate on your comment.
Hey! Louie has made the top of the list of articles at pewsitter.com !!!
Thanks Louie, you nailed ‘what’s with Pope Francis’. The man positively seethes. He is dividing the Church with probably 90% on his side. You have to hand it to him though. He sure knows how to give folks what they want—-in the short run.
I do not know what is more disturbing from a Pope of the Holy Catholic Church.
1) Who am I to judge.
2) This might seem heretical.
3) Go to a different church and receive Holy Communion. As he gave some bad advice to two different women living in Adultry in Argentina.
“In those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a Destroyer.”
Approved Church prophecy is there as St Thomas Aquinas says to “not to announce new doctrines but to guide the affairs of men.”
Well said Louie. It’s so refreshing to hear a man call a spade a spade. We’ve been brainwashed into walking on egg shells when it comes to calling out the evil in others. It’s a sign of not reading Scripture:+) Our Lord and the Apostles called out the evil of others, the Truth, and weren’t surrounded by emo “watch your tone” nannies.
Yes, Pope Francis hates the true Catholic faith. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see that fact. And let’s not be afraid of using the word “hatred”…hatred of evil is Fear of the Lord:+) Thank you Louie for speaking with clarity and truth. Lovely to hear it:+) God bless~
He’s the devil. He’s Francis the talking mule. He’s Chancy Gardner. He is NOT the shepherd of the faithful. He makes me sick.
All of these things an atheist could do. It his statements concerning the faith and his acts such as practicing idolatry that prove he is a heretic or an apostate if one were to be truthful.
I cannot believe what I am reading from people who think they are Catholics. Many people in the world ask: “Are Catholics Christians?” I never understood how people could ask such a question, until I read many of your comments. To say: “Pope Francis hates the Catholic faith” is so far from the truth it is beyond comprehension. We need to step back from this vitriolic attack on this holy man whom the Holy Spirit has anointed the Vicar of Christ on Earth and support him in his much needed efforts to bring us back to a more Christ-like Church.
joanc57 it makes me sick to read your comments about Pope Francis. May God heal your evil heart and forgive you for your evil comments about this truly holy man.
You never pass a combox, do you Linda, without letting fly against Pope Francis with that shrill, bog-stupid ignorance, knuckle-cracking and bleating lunacy.
I read all these comments and I wonder, “Does Jesus Christ ever come to you people for advice?” You seem to know his plan better than he does. What need is Faith when you’re so sure of the right path.
Why would Christ need to come to us for advice? In His perfect wisdom He gave us His Church for guidance….a Church which could not err in It’s teachings. When people defame His Church Catholics are going to have a problem with them. What exactly are you wondering about?