In response to the “Uncle Ted” McCarrick scandal and the attention it has brought to the conciliar church’s ongoing homo-clerical crisis, Michael Voris and Church Militant TV, along with a “coalition” of other apostolates, is leading a “peasant Catholic march” to “take back the Church.”
The “Silence Stops Now” rally (as it is formally named) is a call for faithful Catholics to descend on Baltimore in November during the USCCB Fall Assembly:
… to demand an end to the silence, to insist on the resignation of those [prelates] responsible, the prosecution of any criminal activity, and an independent investigation of the leadership of the Catholic Church in the United States.
It’s not immediately clear what the rally will entail, but I wish them luck in securing a permit to march anywhere near the Waterfront Marriott Hotel where the bishops will be roughing it in 4-Star accommodations again this year. I would expect police presence to make it difficult to get anywhere near the venue, and much more so any individual bishop other than those media hounds who just can’t help themselves.
In any case, in a video introducing the rally, Voris said:
The evil of sodomy is what’s behind all this … The problem is the gay culture in the Church created by the leaders who could not have risen to their high ranks without allying themselves with it.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I am pleased to assume that the organizers, as well as the people that plan to attend, mean well, but I am also entirely certain that the march is a monumental waste of time. Not so much because the USCCB doesn’t give a hoot about what some protesters in the street are demanding, or the negative attention it might bring via the media, but because the organizers have misdiagnosed the problem entirely.
Just for fun, let’s imagine that the march meets – no, make that wildly exceeds its goal:
Imagine the USCCB suddenly ceasing to be secretive, formally admitting that the Church has a major gay problem, and then it somehow convinces every last homo-deviant bishop and priest, their sympathizers, and their protectors to resign; sacking the ones that resist and even seeing to it that some of them are prosecuted. In other words, a clean sweep.
What then will remain?
A church-of-man overrun by a bunch of heterosexual modernists; a quasi-protestant religious non-profit that continues to thumb its nose at the Kingship of Christ; laughs at Our Lady of Fatima; reverences the Almighty Council as if it were holy writ; denies all manner of immutable doctrine; promotes religious indifferentism; labors to convince the Jews that they’re in a saving covenant; stages a bastard rite posing as the Catholic Mass, and, to top it all off, is headed-up by a blasphemous heretic that they call “Holy Father.”
In that environment, how many years do you think it will take before the homos are running the boys camp again?
On some level, it seems that Voris – in spite of what he calls the problem that’s behind all of this – knows that the disease runs much deeper than queers behaving badly. He says:
… peasant Catholics need to show up in Baltimore as well [as the bishops] — not to convince the out-of-touch prelates and cardinals to return to the Faith, but to give some juice, some encouragement to good bishops to demand change.
Who exactly are these “good bishops” in the USCCB? Seriously, name one. Just one.
They don’t exist, folks. If they did, they wouldn’t need any “juice” from the angry mob.
Encouragement? The neo-cons have been spewing this nonsense for decades:
We must let our conservative clergymen know how much we appreciate their faithfulness, and that we have their back…
What a load of garbage! If the solemn duty that a Successor to the Apostles has before Jesus Christ and the very real prospect of Hell isn’t motive enough to keep and to teach the true faith and to confront evil head-on (and clearly it isn’t), then no amount of positive reinforcement from the flock is going to matter.
Every last one of these men need “to return to the faith.” Every. Last. One.
Voris said that these bishops could not have risen to their high ranks without allying themselves with the gay culture in the Church.
Perhaps not, but make no mistake – no one climbs the ecclesial ladder unless they embrace the Almighty Council and the New Mass. Those are the rungs; plain and simple.
And now it is imagined that a gang of “peasant Santo Subito Catholics” who likewise reverence Vatican II and the poisonous rite of Paul the Pathetic are going to march into Baltimore and “take back the Church”?
So far, the “Silence Stops Now” coalition consists of CMTV, The Lepanto Institute, Regina Magazine, The Crusade Channel, and Defend Life Magazine.
Let me be clear – there are some good people in this group; a number that I consider friends and who do good work. Even so, I cannot get behind this effort.
And why not? Because laboring to expel the sodomites from the Church (a good thing) while turning a blind eye to the apostasy that allowed them to breed therein in the first place (a grave omission) will only serve to guarantee that souls will continue to be lost.
A kind reader suggested to me that it’s only a matter of time before the Remnant joins the “Silence Stops Now” coalition given the following commentary from its publisher:
Well, although lay, we have been called also as part of “The People of God,” and we can resist; we have Christ on our side. In this regard, one author has recommended that we put our ideological differences aside when it comes to this issue. In essence, many of us view ourselves as being Traditionalists, Conservatives or Liberals. But all of us are disgusted by this [homo-clerical crisis]. As such, coming together for this limited purposes seems like a good idea.
Maybe the Remnant will jump on board. If they do, who could be surprised? Either way, it is true, we can resist.
No, not by setting aside our differences – which, by the way, are not “ideological” (a Bergoglian buzzword) but rather concern matters of eternal life and death – and certainly not by marching in the streets. If you are considering doing either, don’t.
Rather, immerse yourself all the more in Catholic tradition; invite others to do likewise; teach the true faith as often and as well as you are able; charitably but firmly meet error head-on at every turn; assist at the Mass of Ages, and offer acts of sacrifice, prayer, penance, and reparation.
Louie, you hit the nail on the head!!!
“Because laboring to expel the sodomites from the Church (a good thing) while turning a blind eye to the apostasy that allowed them to breed therein in the first place (a grave omission) will only serve to guarantee that souls will continue to be lost.”
Are people stupid? No they aren’t. Normal people can’t fathom the depths of evil that exist. Some people don’t believe in God and some people hate Him. These guys are sodomites because those are the only freaks that would eschew marriage and family for the sole purpose of destroying Christ’s Church. We’ve been propagandized to believe gay is who a person is, it’s just what they do. Look at Maciel, he didn’t care what gave him pleasure and power as long as it defied God. Male, female, child, relative, he wanted to receive pleasure and commit sin. He REBELLED. Maybe he was posessed, idk, but he was not alone. These guys are sodomites because they are evil and they hate God and the Church. People think that they can’t LIKE evil people. Their hairdresser is gay and he’s nice and funny. Ted Bundy was nice and funny, he became addicted to pornography watched harder and harder stuff until only actually killing women was arousng for him. He wasn’t born evil but by his free will he chose it. These men are so offended that the Lord Almighty would give them COMMANDMENTS on pain of HELL that they seek to destroy His Church. They can’t, He’s GOD. Their disgusting filth show is taking place in our Church buildings because they stole them but they are NOT in any way Catholic and I don’t think that they are Priests or have any valid sacraments at all. Maybe sexmagic but no Sacraments, no way. I have no idea how this is going to play out but this whole Vatican II fake religion has got to be the most evil crime since Christ was crucified. Criminals this evil are dangerous so if you’re Catholic and you are involved with these people just be careful, the masks are falling off. I’d not let these people anywhere near my family. If any of them aren’t sodomites, I don’t know how they got there and I’d get the heck out if I were them. I’d become a holy hermit in the desert and repent for my involvement in this crime.
“Who exactly are these “good bishops” in the USCCB? Seriously, name one. Just one.”
Very TRUE Louie
St Malachy gives a number to the succession of Popes.
That number ends with the present (whatever he is).
Irregardless I believe we all must stand up against the sodomites. Basically because they are after our youth.
“Take a close look at the photo above. Notice anything disturbing? I’m so slow-witted I missed it in a cursory glance, but Joseph Sciambra didn’t. It clearly shows the hand and forearm of a youngster, presumably a boy, (could be one of my little elementary aged grandchildren) with the hand of an adult male on the other side.
What exactly is the underlying message of this picture showing children’s colorful blocks making the bridge where the child’s fingers march toward the adult’s? What happens when the child meets the man in the middle? Do they go off hand in hand? Are we one step closer to the NAMBLA motto of “Sex before eight or else it’s too late?” ‘
I agree with everything you say here Louie, but like with the increased silence on abortion, these Bishops are not so covertly assisting in the destruction of souls, bodes and minds.
Ultimately all is in God’s Will . Much more Rosaries are needed.
We must remember that image is not everything.
Overthrowing the Apostasy takes more than that.
Our Holy Mother gave us the remedy……….in the power of Her Rosary.
Let the dead bury their dead. Or their wigs, In the case of the ludicrous Voris.
As far as the Remnant is concerned, I think Michael.Matt deserves some.serious cime-uppance. Plainly regarding himself as Traditionalist nobility, he has fallen so far behind the curve that it’s almost painful to watch the Remnant slip into total irrelevance. With his skull-infested so-called “catacomb” and his laughable CNN-style “Breaking News” banners (just who is he kidding?), the only things he seems to care about are Putin, Trump and his out-reach to “conservative” Catholics, who have actually never given a rat’s arse for the Faith, contentbas they Have been for sixty years to go along with.every revolutionary outrage, as long as the Revolution doles out to them occasional spots on the parish rota as Readers, Eucharistic “Ministers” or doing the collection.
Has.anyone noticed the intellectual level of the Remnant’s readership? I know that Matt and his family live in a region where villages have names like Scalped Sioux Gulch and a population of five, but you’d expect the commentators to be better educated than just those five.
What I really cannot abide about the Remnant is its addiction to its “R and R” approach to the current situation in the Church. That stance (and, equally I have to say, its opposite – sedevacantism – with which the Remnant is permanently at war) is now totally insufficient, Indeediis completely irrelevant. If we are talking about Bergoglio being the False Prophet as I believe is very possible, or even worse, then arguemnts about whether he is or isn’t Pope are so much hot air. Either stance obstructs Catholics from seeing the reality, which is much more grave than even Most Tradionalists imagine.
Would this rally be much more effective if Cardinal Burke led the charge? Maybe Michael Matt could convince him to do so. After all, The Remnant puts all their trust in Burke as the Savior for Tradition even though he is a Vatican 2 kind of a guy.
Burke’s a busted flush. He’s been.silenced – obviously they have something on him. But yes, the Remnant continues to hope … .
Compromise among the ‘sacred hierarchy’ on every level…..and for every ‘stripe!’
Christ taught us that we are children of the Father and as such, the probational laws given through Moses do not bind us any longer.
As Saint Paul said:
” For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us, therefore, celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” (2 Cor 5:7-8)
Known as “gay ray” in the seminary according to priests on the internet. Could be a smear but sanctioning the transgender in his Diocese to start a women’s religious order and then punishing the parishioner who wrote first to him and then the Papal Nuncio , was definitely a telling move no matter how long and grand his cappa magna is. Image means nothing.
One BIG UGLY Fruit of the Apostasy……..changes in canonical law.
1917 CIC 2359 § 2 stated
“If [clerics] engage in a delict against the sixth precept of the Decalogue with a minor below the age of sixteen, or engage in adultery, debauchery, bestiality, sodomy, pandering, [or] incest with blood-relatives or affines in the first degree, they are suspended, declared infamous, and are deprived of any office, benefice, dignity, responsibility, if they have such, whatsoever, and in more serious cases, they are to be deposed.”
I should add Celibacy and Chastity have two separate definitions , but THEY would have us think otherwise.
Imagine this conference. At a plusher waterfront hotel. The bishops arriving in casual clothes, guffawing and back-slapping with each other. Meeting for martinis at the bar off the lobby. “Hey, look, there’s Wester, gotta love the guy standing firm on immigration down there in Albuquirk”. “Oh, and there’s Dolan, If you ask me, he better keep a lower profile on Gay Pride during St Paddy’s.” “Boy, Burke’s looking shredded! Good thing the Vatican’s got a lid on him”. The faux earnest general sessions and breakout meetings. All the blather about stricter protocols, reporting, vigilance. Formation of a glossy new campaign to keep Catholic youth safe.
The breakfast buffets, the banquet hall lunches, the studious avoidance of the edgier, campy districts after hours this time.
It’s enough to make my skin crawl. Louie is right, nothing except the disgrace of all sodomites and their enablers (complete defrocking and civil prosecution/ imprisonment. where possible) and condemnation of Vatican II and the Novus Ordo will fix this.
Everything else is insane window-dressing.
I was hoping that Bishop Malooly of Wilmington (DE) was one of the “good ones”, but he may not be. His comms director was curt in his reply when I asked about the Bishop making a statement or otherwise providing guidance on the issue. No, “the Bishop hasn’t made a statement and he may or may not”. And zero replies to my followup. Guess the Diocese of Wilmington prefers to ignore the problem. Its amazing how many of our “leaders” are in practice moral cowards – and apathetic to boot.
Wow now slander on writing of Cardinal Burke from Smearer. And slander of Michael Matt from Smeagul because he isn’t allowed to write for The Remnant anymore. How is any of this on topic? Its not AND is gravely sinful. Also St Malachi prophecy, HA, Smearer you will feel stupid when Francis dies and another Pope is elected. Why doesn’t anybody put a stop to this madness? I thought maybe people could behave and save combox but now I think maybe it would be better to shut it down just to silence these mad heretics!
Agree. All the “Silence Stops Now” will do is give orthodox Catholics a bad name. The marchers will be seen, if is noted at all, as an insignificant group of homophobic neolithic dissenters vs the loving and open Church of Pope (St.) Francis.
I love it when Trads go “full abstraction” like Louie has done here. Melanie, you have correctly identified a new and terrifying “modern”(ist) development. These sodomites are not your grandfather’s sodomites or even those of pagan Greco-Roman antiquity. Louie’s argument that the sin of heresy, especially the synthesis of them all, modernism, is far worse than sodomy or any other sexual (or “vengeance” sin for that matter) is objectively sound. However, on a practical level, the idea that there is some sodomite Trad Catholic out there denouncing the ecumenist, religious liberty, and collegiality heresies of V2 and professing EENS to all who will listen when he is not “on the down low” is a laughable unicorn hypothesis. It is difficult to tell which came first. The new, virulent “gay” subculture of 20th/21st century sodomites who almost exclusively profess the doctrine of “do what thou wilt” or the heresy of modernism? Disentangling the emergence of “Gays” and Modernism would be like trying to say there was no connection and/or synergy between the first “Gay” AntiPope” (Montini a protégé of Pius XII from 1939 until 1953),his V2 Council and “new” mass.
You have just mentioned the most shocking thing I have seen, maybe ever. Given the McCarrick abuse reality, the increasing awareness we all have of just how many homosexual priest predators we have, that header for the Quest Conference is amazing in it’s boldness. These men, these priests, are openly promoting man/boy sex, and this is a venue for Catholics priests who are speaking! There is simply no alternative explanation possible for the James Martin “bridge” displayed here, and we now see it is a bridge to child or teen molestation. Those hands, walking toward each other, are using a flirtatious gesture and there is no denying that meaning. Damn perverts.
I guess Martin will be defending the now chic “minor attracted” individuals, who want to be given some empathy and recognition. To be “minor attracted” means you like to diddle boys, mostly, and it’s just another sexual orientation. After that comes the dog diddlers and the horse diddlers, all wanting their day and a free pass.
These men have me almost praying for the SMD, the Sweet Meteor of Death, because this planet has been transformed into a near Hell on earth. If we ever allow these men consolation as pederasts or minor attracted, we deserve Hell and then some. We must FIGHT for children and teens, even if it is to dedicate our lives to warning mothers and fathers to NEVER leave their boy alone with any of them! People on the outside may not realize every priest now is a potential pervert, and if the church won’t do anything but approve of them, maybe that is our job, to warn every single parent we can to never, never leave their boy alone with these men. Seminarians already know, but boys and teens DON’T, and parents often DON’T. Let’s make it our mission to TELL THEM. If we save one boy…please God, protect boys.
As far as this march, good on em. One thing that is getting very tiring is fighting among the ranks. We are a disorganized lot, and we can’t seem to agree with each other on what day it is. I feel about to throw up my hands and say, have at it without me. Home Church is beginning to look better and better.
I agree with you. I suspect things may be much worse than was imagined. He could be more than the False Prophet. Catholics largely have no idea, even those relatively well informed are hesitant to speak plainly. I think we’re all scared _____.
Censorship of all conversation is never the answer to any problem. Individuals can be kicked out, but to push for shutting down conversation is wrong. Entirely wrong. We must reject that kind of approach as totalitarian.
You are correct Louie with the last paragraph.
“Rather, immerse yourself all the more in Catholic tradition; invite others to do likewise; teach the true faith as often and as well as you are able; charitably but firmly meet error head-on at every turn; assist at the Mass of Ages, and offer acts of sacrifice, prayer, penance, and reparation.”
Too many times on this site you see supposedly intelligently people tearing one another apart to try and win an argument. In part that is the result of having been subjected to the protestantism of the the conciliar church – i.e. obeying your conscience. If your conscience is malformed you never practise or understand true catholicism.
You must align your thought with Christ’s Teachings. Until you love Christ more than yourself you have little chance of getting to Heaven.
I would suggest a reading list of Fr. James Wathen’s books. A wonderful Catholic priest who realized immediately in 1969 that the new mass was the work of the devil. All books are pure Catholicism without the veneer of liberalism that has infected the Church in last 200 years or more and came to a head at Vatican 2.
The Great Sacrilege
Who Shall Ascend
I Know Mine and Mine Know Me.
I bought the books both on the website in his name and Ebay.
No novus ordo priest could debate him on the validity of the new mass or the new sacraments.
You mention something I never hear talked about and it’s beginning to really get to me. Why are these men always guffawing?? Every time I see a photo of Dolan or Wuerl or so many others, they are constantly laughing like game show contestants, throwing their heads back and hahaHAHAHA….Is this part of the mandate by Berg to show “joy”??? Is this required??
I notice North Koreans laughing like that all the time, ever notice? It’s like HAHAHAHAHAHA…(gee I hope he doesn’t kill me today)…HAHAHAHAHA….(oh crap he’s looking at me)….HAHAHAHAHA….
How dare these men treat the church like a Comedy Club. It’s falling apart, stop your dang laughing, hyenas.
Yes, it’s Second Pentecost, New Springtime, Year Zero “joy”. Very similar to the forced joyfulness of Cambodians under the Khmer Rouge or North Korea today.
They laugh through the rictus grin of their immorality, addiction to money and wealth, and the strain of having to pretend to be men of God.
On the other hand, they could simply be laughing. At us.
Thanks for the tip Gerard. I’ve not heard of this priest but will look him up.
I don’t have a problem with the march. Let them.
Of course I do agree that in the end it will never solve the problem at the root of it.
But whatever makes the USCCB uncomfortable, is A-OK with me.
Another reason that the march might be prone to failure is precisely because the problem with these rallies and marches is that they have eliminated the entire point of THE MOB.
See, in the land called America, the right to peaceful protests exists.
Now peaceful protests aren’t bad. But these will only work on some targets.
The evil we are dealing with is the kind where, in the land called America, the 2nd Amendment exists.
The one that HEAVILY IMPLIES – VIOLENCE.
ANTIFA, the Leftists and their LGBT Fascist predecessors and their predecessors from Russia and France got results precisely because they got the point of what having a large MOB of People is really for!
Because there are some groups of powerful people who are not swayed by people holding signs. Only people desperate enough to physically do them harm.
Remember that these people are sodomites and those who have covered up sodomite rape. A very VERY violent kind of behaviour.
These are inherently violent and evil men.
Do you think these ravenous wolves will be intimidated by a bunch of sheep going “baaaaaa” in the streets?
The only thing they fear is the hunter, and the hounds.
That’s why they are very eager to get rid of the Death Penalty.
Unless Voris and co. are ready to smash windows and burn bishop’s cars and spend time in jail for it, nothing is going to change.
And that is why the bishops, starting with the ‘bishop in white’ from the top freely ignore the lamby-pamby Christians, but bend over backwards to placate and cater to ISLAM.
Whatever we think of those guys, they wouldn’t put up with this shit.
Now for those of you reading this, are you thinking that I’m advocating for this march to do precisely that???
Because, for one, none of them obviously will.
And two, we are not THE mob. The lefty mob vastly outnumbers us, and have their professional goons in the secular police and the military industrial complex. And those guys have lots of guns. And unlike the lefty fascists the courts give a tap on the wrist to, the secular courts have no problem incarcerating peaceful protesters of the right or the pro-life kind.
So even this would backfire badly. It would be the same situation as the Vendee, only worse.
Why I am bringing this up… is to reiterate the point of what is coming –
War & Divine Chastisement.
That’s the only thing these people finally understand. And why finally the good and merciful God must act in ways so justly destructive on a massive scale.
THIS – is the only way this evil will finally be destroyed. So prepare yourselves for it.
“Vengeance is mine,” saith the Lord.
Do know that the way I sleep peacefully about this situation at night is the smug satisfaction of knowing that once God decides to finally move against these men, all of them are going to dearly wish it had been us instead! So the anger I possess against these people, I give up to Him.
That’s why the Death Penalty was a merciful act. The civil authority passes judgement and sentence on the guilty, and thus the act itself expunges the penalty for their sins in this life. Now these men will have to pay for it in the next. Many will have to pay for it forever.
If Hell is ’empty’ as they believe, then it seems that God might have to fill it back up – you know – to reach equality quotas. That other side, given it’s such a minority… needs representatives after all! I’m sure these men will gladly go proudly to those peripheries.
Chapter 10–entitled “The Myth of Equality”–of Fr. Wathen’s book Who Shall Ascend? is bound to gravely OFFEND CatholiCucks of both the “conservative” and “traditionalist” variety. It’ll especially OFFEND white CatholiCucks of said varieties, so thoroughly programmed are they in suicidally xenophilic white ethnomasochism.
All PA Diocesan Grand Jury Reports are out now.
God must be very very angry.
“‘I’m concerned about our people that they may be scandalized and tempted to turn their backs on God,’ Zubik told KDKA.” This is a damnable lie. I don’t believe these sodomites. They weren’t protecting the Church, they were methodically placing Nitroglycerin charges to demolish the faith. The intention was to scandalize Catholics and tempt them into turning their back on God. I pray we don’t fall for it so easily this time. They are not the Church, but imposters. They did something horrible in 1958, they threatened our Pope or they prevented him from somehow taking his rightful place. I don’t know exactly but I know they are liars and imposters not just sinners. This is not some bad apples but a coordinated conspiracy and attack on the Church. I trust only Catholic Clergy ordained and consecrated in Pre VII Rites and only as far as they present the faithful with the Pope of the Catholic Church. I’m prayerfully waiting, Your Excellencies.
“If the solemn duty that a Successor to the Apostles has before Jesus Christ and the very real prospect of Hell isn’t motive enough to keep and to teach the true faith and to confront evil head-on (and clearly it isn’t), then no amount of positive reinforcement from the flock is going to matter.”
Then again, perhaps these men aren’t even true bishops let alone true successors of the apostles.
Which would explain a lot.
TGS: “Either stance [sedevacantism or Recognize and Resist] obstructs Catholics from seeing the reality, which is much more grave than even Most Traditionalists imagine.”
So what is “the reality” in your opinion TGS?
This is a comment from Doug58, “The Catholic church needs to be charged under RICO, lose its tax exempt status entirely and sued into oblivion.”
He is exactly right! Except that monstrosity, conciliar cult is not the Catholic Church. Catholics better speak the heck up otherwise you are members of that cult. Powerful wealthy Catholics and groups need to divert their $ to a thorough investigation of the 1958 conclave and find traditional clerics to support IF they get us a Pope. As long as we don’t have a Pope we will flounder around like a steaming hot mess until judgment day. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is an obligation and the best means of grace WHEN it exists; we need a POPE and then we have the Mass if we are blessed to have it. If Jorge is the false prophet maybe we won’t but we can still be Catholic.
Apart from brute force, the world is governed by blackmail and threat of scandal. The Anglo-American Establishment is entirely controlled and disciplined by this system of corrupt compliance; witness the Franklin and British parliamentary pedophile scandals. As the Christian clergy was seduced by the secular powers, they became ensnared in this system as well. Adolph Hitler recognized this truth and used it to beat the Germany’s clergy into submission. That corrupted German clergy were instrumental in the Vatican II coup and in the recent Francis synod. Note that Buenos Aires was a prime destination for fugitive Nazis.
The laity cannot extricate the Church from this plight. They are even more craven to the world and its prince than the clergy. Everyone admitted to the elite stratum of society have a threat over them that can compel their submission. Sodomy is less about pleasure than about power and control. The only option is to walk away from the glamour and enticements of this corrupt world and set our eyes on His kingdom. All other goals lead to degradation and slavery.
“As long as we don’t have a Pope we will flounder around like a steaming hot mess until judgment day.”
The very fact that we have been floundering around since Vatican II is proof that there has been no true pope since then. Unfortunately, some seem to think that we have only been floundering around since the resignation of Ratzinger.
Hi there Vermont. If your question.is serious and you actually want to.hear the answer, then I’ll discuss it. If you ask only while ready for more nastiness, I won’t 🙂 I hope it’s the former, because we all are on the same side at the end of the day.
Baltimore now is the most violent city in the US. Murder City. The cops will protect the bishops, not you. Don’t go.
kilts–You are concerned with slander? What about the scandals and heartache caused by sick perverted priests who prey on young boys and girls? Maybe you should direct some of your angst in that direction.
Yes, of course. It’s silly to march. The solution is to sit around as usual, do nothing, wring our hands about how things could be cured if only Vatican II were swept away. After all, it is only a matter of time before that happens. In the short run I’d settle for all the homosexual bishops on up to resign. But why bother with that. It’s way more satisfying to be self-righteous in knowing the real solution that nobody else has apparently even thought of…and still not do anything about it.
Louie thank you so much for these spot on and wise words of advice. One can pretty mush safely beleive that any bishop who willingly is part in this awful organization, the USCCB, have gravely compromised the doctrines of the Catholic Church and/or are flat out desiring to destroy the Catholic Church. The filth of sodomy was brought on by this horrid implementation of the Novus Ordo liturgy and the redid inning of marriage through the promotion of NFP that started to rear its ugly head from the beginning of Pius XII’s reign and onward.
Great article, louie and spot on! Never will the homo’s who run the Church today give up power. They would , and do, throw their own under the bus, first. As you say, even if they were all done away with, the neocons would still bow down to the odious Novus Ordo, which is the problem. The NO was concocted in hell and until it is thrown back there, the problem will remain. Only God can solve this problem and in His time, He will.
Funny, that’s just what I did. When someone sent me the link about Voris, I replied back with an invite to The Mass.
Although, something is stirring with these sexual predators being flushed out. Something is happening. It has to begin somewhere, and my hope is that this IS the beginning. 300 priests accused and named in PA. 300. Thousands of children vindicated. Thousands. Our Lord and Our Lady’s ways are mysterious, but Our Lady of Good Success said She would Triumph, and I believe She mentioned it that it would be around this time in this century.
God has some unlikely characters cleaning house…MTCCGA…aka: Make The Catholic Church Great Again! Hopefully some eyes will be opened and heads and hearts will seek and find The Mass in all this madness. Who knows which Church they may stumble into by chance in the process. May Our Lord guide their hearts and feet.
Last yr, the most disgusting thing happened. I had gnats in my house and I couldn’t figure out why. I washed my litter box, replaced it, to no avail and then I found that a can of evaporated milk that I had in food storage exploded, so GROSS. Cleaned it up quickly, problem solved. Those people would be me if I just spent my days killing gnats, complaining about gnats, investing in gnat traps, etc. It has to be denial, people are scared to lose their faith. Go ahead people, lose your faith, you’ll only remain a nihilist briefly because it’s not true then you can start thinking reasonably. And maybe the professional gnat killers are invested in gnat killing supplies so they’ll tell you your crazy looking for exploded cans. If I’m wrong about a hinky papal enclave, I was also wrong about the litter box. But I wasn’t wrong that the gnats were due to a much bigger problem and Bergoglio is a gnat. Apocalyptically BAD gnat but there is a bigger problem.
*that’s conclave not enclave and you’re not your
Why is there no edit button, I had to suffer having written “truely” at least three times on this site. I’ll never spell it wrong again.
How about “Make ALL our clergy and seminaries straight again” ?
I love ironic posts such as there.
TGS: I would like to know. Otherwise I would not have bothered to engage with you. Lately you seem to have laid off your rabid anti-sede attitude, so as long as that continues, I’m willing to listen.
“‘I’m concerned about our people that they may be scandalized and tempted to turn their backs on God,’ Zubik told KDKA.” This is a damnable lie. I don’t believe these sodomites ! Good for you Melanie!
AG Shapiro on BBC just contradicted what Zubik states. The AG said Zubik was was promoted because he DID coverup and transfer these satanist monsters. Then Jesuit Reese comes on and says Wuerl the girl went to the Vatican to get Cipolla defrocked….yep he sure did because Ccipolla threatened to blab to the Congregation of the Clergy about Donna’s own sexcapades…..There is no love loss between these demonic swine .They will use their own blackmail wherever and whenever it serves them.
Awww c’mon Skilts aren’t you going to step in and call us ALL liars and gossips and remind us about all the good in the Nervous Ordo?
Well at least over at CMTV, they now allow commentors to openly criticize and finger-point directly at Francis.
And even Voris has had to allude very discretely toward Francis as being responsible for what occurs under him.
So that’s at least some progress…
Vermont, thanks, that’s fair enough. There’s less rabidity all round and long may it continue.
My thoughts are pretty straight-forward. We are very far into Apocalyptic times. 1917 was Chapter 12 (woman clothed with the Sun); now we are even more deeply into it, and the pace of events is astonishing.
The old intra-Trad wars over sedevacantism, and the Remnant R&R stance is, in face of what we see now, absolutely without any significance whatsoever. That goes for sedevacantism too.
Bergoglio may very well be the False Prophet. I know for a fact that a sizeable group of SSPX priests think he may be the Anti-Christ himself.
Whether he is one of those or not, it seems to me to be self-evident that with structures, doctrine, discipline, faith and morality in complete breakdown, with nothing solid to be seen anywhere (except at the bottom of one of my saucepans this evening), the old fights are of no relevance anymore at all.
Now is the time to step away from this position or that position, and simply try to be a Catholic as it was always understood before the Great Springtime. There’s nothing more to be gained either by Siscoe or by Salsa or by Cekada. It’s now meaningless.
To be honest, I’ve thought this for a long time.
That’s it in a nutshell. I myself expect the Chastisement to come at absolutely any second, minute, day, week. May God forgive us all our sins and bring us to eternal life.
Speaking of the formerly great city of Baltimore:
70% Black Baltimore: Four Black “Youths” Assault White City Employee (Who Oversees “Anti-Violence Programs”) In Broad Daylight
Bergoglio is not on St Malachy’s List because he isn’t a pope. Peter the Roman will come after the Warning and Pope Benedict is martyred as in the third secret of Fatima.
God will put a stop to the madness by sending fire from the sky which will wipe out a great part of humanity as Akita describes. Expect WW3 to start soon in the Middle East.
Actually this gives another diversion for Church Militant as they defended Francis changing the death penalty because he really didn’t change doctrine, only discipline. Uh huh. Takes the attention away from the obvious.
You just can’t let go of your ego, can you, Smearer? I see why you like this site. Two reasons. First, Louise doesn’t monitor comments,and second, you have a platform where people listen to you whereas IRL you are certainly ignored as the lunatic that you are. Your behavior here is textbook narcissistic sociopath. Normal people ignore folks with that disorder IRL. On the internet, though, you can command the attention of the feeble-minded, the gullible, and The Great Stalin.
Let me be very clear. Priests who molest children, as far as I’m concerned, should be slowly lowered into volcanoes, vats of acid, tanks of hungry sharks, wasp hives, whatever is slowestly-fatal and most painful. Their guilt far exceeds that of a non-clerical child molester – who themselves deserves the harshest of punishments – because they use their office as a Priest of the Catholic Church to aid them to pursue their depravity.
Where you and some other people here are wrong is that you use the disgusting crimes of some priests as an excuse to slander others whom you detest for a variety of reasons and indulge in your pathological lust for the most filthy and disgusting of gossip. And it’s always about sex, sex, sex. Guy like Sciambra describes what he “used to” (suuure) do and the state of his rectum (if you’ve actually read his stuff, it’s all in there) in pornographic detail, and you eat it up. Woman shows a little knee at Mass, you scream “whore”.
You’re as obsessed with sex as the ones you condemn, albeit in a different way. Are you as morally reprehensible? Obviously not, a you’re not doing anything sexual of any kind, acceptable or unacceptable. But you’re also guilty of mortal sin, in that you slander people. Your place in hell will be not quite as bad as that of a child molester. But that will be small consolation for the rest of eternity.
You’re mentally unhealthy. You poison minds. You sin boldly, loudly, and pubically while condemning others with nothing more than other gossip blogs as “evidence”. You have left the Church, refuse to practice the Catholic Faith, won’t attend Mass, and seek to assuage your own guilt by trying to lead others out.
You are evil.
Stalin, you’re an older man and are going to find your last days very difficult when you realize that you’ve pegged your entire faith on this being the end of the world, when the world keeps on chugging along and you face your own mortality.
At the end of the day, and at the core, it’s arrogance that will send both of you to the pit if you don’t repent. But I have more sympathy and hope for others here. Because to believe you, they must indeed be invincibly – and astoundingly, alarmingly, and absolutely – ignorant, and just might loophole their way through the Pearly Gates.
To return to the topic at hand, which you cannot and will not do, I don’t know if it will matter if people protest. Nobody will criticize them for objecting to the reprehensible covering-up behavior of the American Catholic hierarchy as a whole unless, of course, they go Westboro Baptist and wave signs saying “God hates fags.” But I don’t see that happening.
I also don’t think the hierarchy will listen.
I think that Louie’s article is the product of his obsession with damning everyone who isn’t Catholic enough (on the uniquely eccentric and contrarian) Louie Scale to hell, but that regardless of motivation he has a solid point when it comes to whether this will be at all efficacious.
Anyone care to actually address that last part, which is what the article is about? I’ll wait while the usual suspects exhaust themselves spewing their bile.
With all due respect TGS, it would a lot easier to be Catholic if we had a Pope and Bishops who taught the Catholic faith. In order to be Catholic I have to reject Bergolio and the entire V2 NO religion. You can call it RR or sede but in the end we have to reject V2 and the NO, which means rejecting those that teach it.
“If the solemn duty that a Successor to the Apostles has before Jesus Christ and the very real prospect of Hell isn’t motive enough to keep and to teach the true faith and to confront evil head-on (and clearly it isn’t), then no amount of positive reinforcement from the flock is going to matter.”
This has been the great scandal for the Faithful over the past fifty years. They do not care for the salvation of souls, of those true to the Faith or of those in opposition to it.
Lord, give us the graces necessary to persevere in the Faith in spite of the persecution by false prophets.
Catfish , do yourself an educational favor on your bishop there and watch the Netflix series about who killed Sr Cathy entitled “The Keepers” Pay attention to the account given by a Dentist who was abused as a child and his visit from a Monsignor Malooly from the Chancery along with his lawyers who tried to buy him off to keep quiet. As AG Shapiro mentioned on the BBC tonight Zubick became Bishop of Pittsburgh because he handled these cases in the same way.
Great! I know I am in good company Skilts as you obviously hate me ,TGS and Louie and what we have to say. Thanks for the compliment.
“Louis Verrecchio is right………….
Leading a march nowhere headed by the controlled ( opus dei) opposition will accomplish nothing.”
Photo Ops for the sake of a happy image.
Hi Tom. Your post is not very clear but I’ll say this – OF COURSE one has to reject the Vatican II cuckoo Catholicism and any cleric who teaches it. That goes without saying. You sedes do it in a more formal way than the R&Rs, that’s the only difference. I am saying that it doesn’t matter any longer whether one holds the one position or the other, that battle is no longer of any relevance whatever. The situation is far beyond that old war.
TGS, I do agree that the situation is probably far worse than anyone can imagine. My one concern about what you wrote is that you said we should just “try to be a Catholic as always understood.” Yes, we should hold fast to Tradition and continue the traditional practices, but one of the most critical ways we live a Catholic life is to be subject to the Pope. This is why I believe the question does matter. If this current clown is Pope I am in big trouble because my Catholic senses tell me I should be assenting to his heretical teachings. Same goes for the other apostate conciliar usurpers. I cannot assent to all religions have elements of salvation or we worship the same merciful god as the muslims. I cannot attend worship services that offer God fruit of the earth and works of human hands. I will not do these blasphemous things anymore. From what I gather, you too will not submit to Bergolio and the conciliar apostate anti-popes. If your thesis puts forth that the See of Peter is not vacant because an anti-pope is illegitimately sitting in the seat, I can go along with that premise. But I cannot “be a Catholic as always understood” if I am rejecting what the true Pope and my Bishop and Pastor are teaching.
Thanks for that link.Sweep. Who’s the guy in the canon212 video? Speaks good sense.
I understand. In.normal.times, your reasoning would be spot on. We have to be subject to the Pope and assent to his teaching (as long as it is line with Tradition!).
But the whole point of my argument is that we are NOT In normal times at all. Therefore the usual rules are out the window. They cannot apply in the current situation.
Nowhere does the Catholic Church teach that Catholic teachings/principles go out the window when we are not in normal times. This kind of thinking reminds me John XXIII’s throwing open the windows of the Church at Vatican II.
Catholic teachings and principles are timeless.
Yes, I would agree that the combox seems calmer these days with one or two exceptions.
Thank you for sharing your views. I do find them interesting. Although I can understand why you think this way, the fact of the matter is: this may not be Apocalyptic times. I’m pretty sure that people have thought they were in apocalyptic times or near the end before only to find the world was still around for many, many years. Christ said only God knows the day and the hour, so I prefer not to focus on end-times theories.
As such, I think the issue of the pope still matters (and therefore the difference in the R&R and the sedevacantist views still matters) because a true pope would dump Vatican II, the Novus Ordo communion service, the Novus Ordo rites of Episcopal Consecration and Priestly Ordination, the new Canon Law, etc. These are not the teachings, liturgy, or disciplines of the Holy Catholic Church.
The question is: how does this come about? Personally, I believe that the traditional Catholic bishops are the true hierarchy with true apostolic succession. Clearly the heretic bishops (that is, if they are true bishops to begin with depending upon the rite they were consecrated in) in communion with their heretic “pope” can not possibly be the true Catholic hierarchy with valid apostolic succession. The true hierarchy needs to recognize their responsibility, agree that there is no pope and elect one who will do all of the above. As with the Western Schism, let it all shake out. The real Catholic Church will win. God will make sure of that.
It sounds like we are saying the same thing in a different way, TGS.
I have received a lot of emails telling me to watch his daily videos on “catholic” news. Apparently the world is filled with people who do not have time or cannot read and want a quick video clip . He always has great respect for Louie’s assessments on the state of the church.
How does a situation where the ‘Pope’ is not only a heretic but actually a major player in the advent of the Anti-Christ conform to normal rules?
Maybe I’m not making myself clear.
My stance is really that it no longer matters: the ship is going down and it’s high time to be heading for the lifeboat. Whether the Captain is the real Captain or an imposter who opened the scuttles is not relevant.
Probably a bad metaphor but it gets my point across.
Tom’s got it. We ARE saying the same thing, and maybe not really in a different way.
This is for anyone who really believes we have no need to read Scripture because we hear it read at Mass.
According to the “Riccolta” reading Scripture is an indulgenced prayer.
TGS: You say the ship is going down. How can the Catholic Church, “go down”?
2VT, its just a matter of semantics. I’m with you, The Church is Holy and Spotless and can never “go down.” What is going down is the false conciliar church. Someday TGS may see it clearly as we do or we may see it as clearly as they do. Either way it is not a dogmatic issue since there is no Pope to settle this question. As long as TGS doesnt call Bergolio the “Holy Father” we should direct our fire at those who are still propping up the false NO sect. TGS seems to want the conciliar sect to crash and burn as we do. I don’t think we are going to convince him to accept the terms we use to express the situation. Likewise we do not accept his terms. All of the clouds of confusion will be lifted one day and we will see the Church as it exists. Till then we are just groping in the dark for a lifevest or rope to keep from drowning. There is a ship going down. It is not the Catholic Church. Its some evil imposter and we all would do well to get as many of our loved ones to abandon that ship before its too late.
“The Church is Holy and Spotless and can never “go down.” What is going down is the false conciliar church. Someday TGS may see it clearly as we do ..”
!!!!!!!! THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING EVER SINCE I CAME TO THIS SITE!!!!!!
2Vermont, it was a metaphor. If you are going to react in that way, with that level of pedantry, let’s not communicate. It’s bad for my blood pressure.
TGS, this is what you wrote:
“My stance is really that it no longer matters: the ship is going down and it’s high time to be heading for the lifeboat. Whether the Captain is the real Captain or an imposter who opened the scuttles is not relevant. Probably a bad metaphor but it gets my point across.”
Sorry, but I don’t think that it does get your point across. If you are referring to the Conciliar Ship and we’re already off it, then why do we need to head for lifeboats? Also, how could the fake church have a Real Captain on it?
I think this confusing metaphor stems from your opinion that the Conciliar Church (Anti-Church) and the Catholic Church are somehow living within each other and are then somehow on the same ship?
I’m not looking to get your blood pressure up. I appreciate that we are having reasonable interactions.
Your “metaphor” just was (and is still) not clear to me. Perhaps Tom gets you. I don’t. Perhpas like you said it was just a bad metaphor. Perhaps there is no metaphor that can properly describe our situation.
Was Father Kunz silenced?
Yes 2VT, no metaphor can capture what we see happening today with the “Church.” The vast majority of humanity just doesn’t care. I agree with you that the See is vacant but if TGS can come up with some other way to explain the mess without destroying the Catholic teaching on the Papacy and the indefectible Magesterium, then let him have his theory. We have ours.
My 2 Cents..Yes , he was . He was exposing Bernadine’s Boyz on his call in radio show.
No, Smeary, I hate your lies and the massive egos you and Benedict Carter ram down the throats of the well-meaning. But I don’t hate you.
As proof of how little I hate you, it’s my sincere wish that your place in Hell is as close to the border of Purgatory as possible.
No ice core for you. Just an eternity of the thermostat set to 92 and no water available.
No Matter How Bad You Think the Corruption Is, It’s Worse
“The difference with the clerical sodomites is that they become professional apostates. It is not enough for them not to believe in the sacraments; they must make others not believe in them as well. They will not stop twisting and mutilating the Church until she blesses their sin, along with many other sins. To achieve their goals, they must wreak havoc on every last aspect of the Church. This is what the faithful must stop – forget about the contemptible bureaucracy of the USCCB with its well heeled lawyers and slick marketeers. We begin to stop the havoc by calling its source by its real name. McCarrick was not just a predatory sodomite, but an apostate, and all of his “brother bishops” who knew about the double life and still got their pictures taken with him, laughing away at the latest wool pulled over the people’s eyes – you know, the ones who are putting out videos about how unfortunate this is, what a mess, and, you know, it isn’t as bad as people are making it out to be – these are all apostates, too. They’re company men with company cars, driving in a long line to their own burials at the ecumenical cemetery.”
You cannot contain your hatred of The Blacks. You are a sicko. Maybe go join some evangelical Black hating group. Do NOT take Holy Communion. Repent of Go join the Church of Racism, aka not the Catholic Church where all are equal.
You are probably a sodimite too, so go find some church where you can find a boyfriend, you will be much happier. What you say is:
The coment ended with Poop Emoji, but it doesn’t show, it’s what Alphones ‘ comments are, poop pure and simple and stinking to High Heaven. Nasty woman Alphone.
“Has.anyone noticed the intellectual level of the Remnant’s readership? I know that Matt and his family live in a region where villages have names like Scalped Sioux Gulch and a population of five, but you’d expect the commentators to be better educated than just those five.”
Ouch. Having lived in just that region myself, that’s a pretty condescending attitude, sir or ma’am.
I don’t recall Our Lord telling Simon that he was Peter on account of his “intellectual level” or “because you’re from Bethsaida”.
Rather it was on account of his great faith.
Be careful, please.
Tom: “I agree with you that the See is vacant but if TGS can come up with some other way to explain the mess without destroying the Catholic teaching on the Papacy and the indefectible Magesterium, then let him have his theory. We have ours.”
I think you and I are going to disagree on this. I don’t agree that believing that a true pope could be the head of a false church is in keeping with the teachings of the papacy (and that is the impression I have gotten from TGS’ metaphor and insistence that it doesn’t matter whether the Captain is real or an impostor).
Therefore, assuming I am not misunderstanding him here and/or in his previous posts regarding an Anti-Church, it is not just another theory. Having said that, I am not interested in arguing with TGS. I think we are more on the same page than not.
Thanks Vermont, that’s gracious of you.
To be honest gents we are totally on the same page. Let’s just say I am more & more post-R&R and / or sede. I just think the old theories don’t apply anymore; and yes, probably you’re right – we are in a metaphor-free zone given the unprecedented nature and gravity of this crisis.
Peace and Grace to both of you.
You’re right Herman, up to a point. What I really mean is the number of posters there who clearly don’t have the first clue about anything much, let alone about that they spout on about; yet their posts are allowed to stand. But one shouldn’t be surprised, given that the Moderation there is not to inform and educate the readership, but merely to enforce the Remnant party line. As I believe the Remnant to have lost its way badly in recent times, they can stick their party line where the sun doesn’t shine. For me, the Remnant is a shadow of what it was.
Sweep out the SKILTS . You’ve OUTED yourself as the returning BlunderASS in your posts here, especially with you’re response to Alphonse.
Louie needs to check out your IP .
“RAAAAAAAAAAACCCISSS!!!!!!” the cuck dutifully squeaks.
Thoroughly processed CatholiCucks like the pitiful Blunderpuss, now posting as sweepoutthekilts, can’t help reflexively squealing “RAAAAAAAACCCISSS” at every opportunity. So predictable. Sad.
Blunderpuss, will you ever learn that cries of “RAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCISSS!!!!!” don’t concern me in the least?
I would say the cappa magna should be replaced with a nice itchy potato sack in this day and age. Preferably worn as an undergarment.
When the credibility and authority of the institutions of the visible Church have been so undermined and corrupted such as they are now, so go the symbols of that credibility and authority such as the long red cape of the cardinal.
That being said, I have to wonder how many people see Burke (and others) wearing it and think “drag queen on parade”.
This heartbreaking one minute video says it all! What about the other 49 states? What’s next?????
Hey TGS: Just so you know, I’m a gal, not a gent. 😉
More false accusations, why am I not surprised. I agreed with some of what Blunderass said though. From now on I am going to ignore your LIES but that is hard when you keep attacking me and everyone.
🙂 Then I’ve not been very gentlemanly (until now at least). Glad we are on good terms.
TGS: How would you know that I was female!? I am very happy we are on good terms as well. I think I may turn out to like you…lol. 😉
I can’t say I disagree with you because sometimes I wonder if some nostalgic (and fanciful) notion of “Catholic Culture the way it used to be” takes precedence over Apostolic Tradition based on what I read coming from The Remnant so often.
Same goes with Mr. Skojec at 1P5- the other day he mused about “Catholicism the way it always was”. Not sure what he means by that…the Church has been through a lot in 2 millenia. The only thing which has remained totally steadfast is Apostolic Tradition.
This “Silence Stops Now” of Mr. Voris is a different manifestation of the same sort of thing…albeit with the characteristic kitsch, camp and Fox News-like panache only Mr. Voris can provide.
In any case I’m sorry to say but the “glory days” of the institutional, visible, earthly Church are almost over and they aren’t coming back as far as anyone who has eyes can see. Scourging, the road to Calvary, crucifixion and death are what is coming for it.
But did not Christ tell us that this all had to come to pass? So why should be be so troubled? And despite it all, the Work of The Church justifying and sanctifying mankind will carry on.
Amen to that brother.
Lovely to read that. I promise to.try to keep my grizzly bear under control from now on.
I.can’t say I’m upset about the US scandal by the way (except of course great sorrow for the victims).
Who knows? Perhaps it’s even the very beginning of the end for this false Anti-Church.
The Novus Ordo sect is done. Francis, the anti-pope, is a joke–not even a Catholic! We are witnessing God’s judgement on a sin that has cried out to heaven. We true Catholics need to support the traditional Mass where ever it can be found, and stop supporting this corrupt organization. The Lord has definitely removed his candlestick from this house of disrepute.
Just some various thoughts:
Lemmesee …. you drop one in the let’s march punch bowl and say don’t go ….
Isn’t that like telling the poor to clothe and feed themselves? If we are the hands and feet of Jesus here on earth to feed and clothe the poor why are we not His hands and feet to fashion a cord and whip the money changers out of the temple?
True action is needed in addition to prayer, fasting, etc.. In Marine Corps leadership school were were taught a combat saying: Lead, Follow, or get out of the way! ….. looks like you just want to get out of the way. Saint Michael did not pray the devil down to earth …. he used combat! Gideon sent the cowards home: in this fight many will stay home too …. while others fix bayonets and engage. Phineas had zeal for the Lord and took action.
The Blessed Mother using her heel to crush the serpents head is the essence of combat and an example we should follow in our corporeal combat against evil.
I do realize that not all troops in any army are combat troops … there’s clerks, cooks, supply, troops, etc. …. but those are still trained in basic combat and totally
support those who fight …. I guess that’s what I am looking for here.