On Wednesday, March 4th, the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome will open a three-day event, co-sponsored by the Italian Bishop’s Conference, dedicated to examining “Liturgy as a means of evangelization.”
This conference (one that Pope Francis presumably will address, either in person, or via a written statement) may give us more insight into the upcoming Synod of Bishops than one might imagine.
How so?
According to Vatican Radio, the conference “takes its inspiration from Pope Francis’ comments on the liturgy in his Apostolic Exhortation, Evangelii Gaudium: ‘Evangelization with joy becomes beauty in the liturgy…The Church evangelizes and is herself evangelized through the beauty of the liturgy, which is both a celebration of the task of evangelization and the source of her renewed self-giving.’” (EG 24)
In addition to proposing the liturgy as a tool for evangelization – a concept pushed forward by the pre-conciliar liturgical movement spearheaded by the ecumenist Dom Lambert Beauduin – Pope Francis had any number of noteworthy things to say about liturgy in Evangelii Gaudium.
Seizing the opportunity to take another verbal whip of cords to “traditionalists” (aka Catholics), the Holy Father said:
In some people we see an ostentatious preoccupation for the liturgy, for doctrine and for the Church’s prestige, but without any concern that the Gospel have a real impact on God’s faithful people and the concrete needs of the present time. (EG 95)
While it may be tempting to dismiss this as just one more among countless other insults hurled in the direction of faithful Catholics by the reigning pope, these words are telling beyond what may be immediately obvious.
First, this statement clearly indicates that Pope Francis holds to the erroneous notion that the sublimity of the ancient rite renders it outdated to the point of practical irrelevance; i.e., he obviously isn’t capable of comprehending how the Mass of Ages, the same that nurtured the Saints in holiness for some 1,500 years, could possibly have “a real impact on God’s faithful people and the concrete needs of the present time.”
Is it any wonder that some people are asking, in all sincerity, if this man is even Catholic?
Perhaps more importantly, one notes that in connecting liturgy, doctrine, and the sacred rite’s impact on the faithful, it is evident that Pope Francis understands well, even if only intuitively, the principle lex orandi statuat legem credendi (the law of prayer establishes the law of belief).
Good news?
No, it’s terrible news.
You see, this explains why Pope Francis is so hostile toward the traditional Mass. He knows very well that it serves to inculcate the faithful with a love for the very doctrines that he considers mere obstacles to the so-called “pastoral initiatives” he so clearly favors.
As such, it should come as no surprise that Pope Francis is attempting to leverage the sacred liturgy’s innate formational power to propagate his modernist ideas.
Already, his now well-known hand in approving and publishing the Extraordinary Synod’s midterm relatio provides hard evidence of his desire to make of the liturgy a venue wherein the “God of surprises” (more properly identified as Bergoglio himself) can infect the hearts and minds of the faithful with what amounts to a new faith.
In one sense, the topic being addressed by the upcoming liturgical conference, in and of itself, is nothing new.
The Novus Ordo Missae has ever been the fruit of the Beauduin led liturgical movement wherein the emphasis on catechesis, evangelization, ecumenism, and social action in the liturgy duly overshadows the true nature of Holy Mass; the immolation of the sacred Victim upon the altar in propitiation for our sins.
Even so, the Franciscan revolution stands out among the post-conciliar pontificates as it relates to the boldness with which the liturgical reorientation is being pressed forward. (This is especially so relative to Pope Benedict XVI and his obvious desire to restore the Church’s venerable liturgical traditions; most notably via Summorum Pontificum.)
Pope Francis, for his part, even goes so far as to suggest that the role of preaching in the Mass – something that is optional outside of Holy Days, and never takes place when the faithful are not present – stands on a near equal footing with the Most Holy Eucharist.
We have long since moved beyond that old contraposition between word and sacrament. The preaching of the word, living and effective, prepares for the reception of the sacrament, and in the sacrament that word attains its maximum efficacy. (EG 174)
Before the advent of the current pontificate, a statement such as this would have caused consternation in our so-called “conservative” Catholic friends had it come from a parish priest; today, it’s passed over in silence even though, and because, it comes from the lips of the pope himself! I digress…
The “old contraposition” to which Pope Francis refers concerns the traditional rite which more clearly (and very rightly) distinguishes between the Mass of the Faithful (that portion of the rite, beginning at the Offertory, directly oriented toward the Sacrifice at the altar), and the Mass of the Catechumens that precedes it.
That said, “contraposition” is a poor choice of words as the two parts of the Mass, though most certainly unequal, were never imagined to be “opposed” to one another.
In any event, this undue stress on “preaching of the word” is part and parcel of the “reformers” desire, as reflected in the very opening lines of the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy of Vatican II, to make the Mass a more comfortable occasion for protestants whose Sunday service boasts of little else.
It is also directly traceable to Presbyterorum Ordinis, the Council’s Decree on the Ministry and Life of Priests, which proposed under the heading “Priests’ Functions”:
Since no one can be saved who does not first believe, priests, as co-workers with their bishops, have the primary duty of proclaiming the Gospel of God to all. (PO 4)
In Catholic thought, by contrast, the primary duty of the priest is to offer the Holy Sacrifice at the altar in atonement for our sins, administering the sacraments, caring for souls, etc.
Even heretic “ministers,” albeit in ways imbued with error, venture to “proclaim the Gospel of God to all” as their “primary duty.”
But then, that’s the point, isn’t it?
Elsewhere in Evangelii Gaudium, Pope Francis further diminished the exalted role of the priest vis-à-vis his duty to preach saying:
The same Spirit who inspired the Gospels and who acts in the Church also inspires the preacher to hear the faith of God’s people and to find the right way to preach at each Eucharist. (EG 139)
One notes here a perverted understanding of the sensus fidei wherein it is imagined that the priest is led by the people; a perversion also evident in the pressure Pope Francis exerted upon the Extraordinary Synod to listen to “the beat of the age.”
This inversion of roles is a very serious matter. Like modern ecumenical efforts wherein no one is called to conversion, it is the fruit of a bankrupt ecclesiology; the same clearly evident in the very text upon which the aforementioned liturgical conference will focus:
Evangelization with joy becomes beauty in the liturgy…The Church evangelizes and is herself evangelized through the beauty of the liturgy, which is both a celebration of the task of evangelization and the source of her renewed self-giving. (EG 24)
Consider, is it proper to imagine that the Church, the Mystical Body of Christ, is herself evangelized in the sacred liturgy?
While we can say that the faithful are nurtured and in some sense formed in the sacred liturgy, the simple answer is no, the Church herself is not evangelized therein.
The word “evangelize” comes from the Latin, evangelizare, meaning “gospel,” a word found most notably in Sacred Scripture (in the Latin Vulgate), relative to the nature and purpose of the Church, as Our Blessed Lord, reading from the prophet Isaiah in the synagogue, proclaimed His mission:
The spirit of the Lord is upon me. Wherefore he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor, he hath sent me to heal the contrite of heart, to preach deliverance to the captives and sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord and the day of reward. (Luke 4:18-19)
Having been endowed with the fullness of the Spirit, the evangelizing mission described by Our Lord as His own is now proper to the Holy Catholic Church, His Mystical Body and Bride.
As such, it is clear that it is incorrect, and frankly dangerous, to imagine that the Church, the solitary evangelizer established by Christ, is herself evangelized in the liturgy.
In all of this, Pope Francis is at least consistent.
One recalls Cardinal Bergoglio’s intervention at the pre-conclave Congregation of Cardinals wherein he proposed evangelization as that through which “the Church gains life;” when in truth, it is through evangelization that the Church, endowed with every good gift, imparts life to the world.
It is for all of these reasons that I, for one, will be keeping an eye on this week’s liturgical conference in Rome.
Your thoughts are very interesting on this, Louis. One can’t help but agree with your clear analysis on this topic regarding the liturgy. It’s good to know that you will be keeping an eye on this upcoming conference. Thanks again for manning your station in this battle.
Dear Louie,
We should have seen this coming, given the all the warning shots fired against the TLM over the past 2 years. Thanks for the heads-up and for keeping an eye on this situation.
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Rorate Caeli was given and exclusive phone interview with CARDINAL BURKE, last week, and asked him how we’re all to deal with the Confusion coming from the Pope, (among many other things- such as the blogger being sued, and the Pope’s agenda regarding married priests.)
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Near the end, when the Cardinal was asked if he had anything else to add, he said:
” Just to encourage everyone to be devoted to the Sacred Liturgy, which is the highest expression of our Catholic faith, the highest expression of our life in God, and to be very devoted to the study of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and to the teaching of the faith in our homes and in our local communities. The Church has suffered terribly from decades of poor catechesis, such that the faithful, children and young people, even adults, don’t know their faith, and we need to address that because the two things go together. When we know our faith well, then we have a strong desire to worship in accordance with our faith, and at the same time our worship makes us desire more to know our faith. And then, obviously, all of that gets expressed in action by the charity of our lives, especially on behalf of those who are in most need.”
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Regarding the role of Traditional Catholics in the Church today, the Cardinal said:
“I find more and more very strong Catholic families who are devoted to the traditional Mass, and I think that those families will have more and more influence in the time to come. If those families influence other families, then obviously there’s a momentum that grows.”
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Re: Confusion from the Pope:
He said: ” We can’t lose our energy being frustrated over something that we think we should be receiving and we’re not. Instead, we know for sure what the Church has always taught, and we need to rely on that and concentrate our attention on that.” (He also urged people to study and teach the Catechism)
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Re: Summorum Pontificum at this time:
Cardinal Burke: “The law stands as it was given by Pope Benedict XVI, and it has not been changed. The document for its implementation was issued by the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei. All of that holds. All of that urges that when there is a desire for the traditional Mass among a group of the faithful, it is to be provided for them.”
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Re: Encouragement for Faithful Catholics:
Card. Burke: .. when, in times like this, there seems to be some confusion in the governance of the Church, then we have, more than ever, to steep ourselves in the
Church’s constant teaching and to hand that on to our children and to strengthen the understanding of that teaching in our local parishes and our families. And our
Lord has assured us — He didn’t tell us that there wouldn’t be attacks on the Church, even from within, but He has assured us that the gates of Hell will never
prevail over the Church. In other words, Satan, with his deceptions, will never finally prevail in the Church. We have to have that confidence about us and go about it with great joy and great determination, in teaching the faith, or in giving witness with apologetics to souls who don’t understand the faith or who have not yet become members of the Church. We know that the gates of Hell will not prevail, but in the meantime, our way is the Way of the Cross. And when we have to suffer for the sake of what we believe, what we know to be true, we can embrace that suffering with the knowledge of the final outcome: that is, that Christ is the Victor. He is the one that ultimately overcomes all the forces of evil in the world and restores us and our world to the Father. That is the way in which I try to encourage faithful Catholics. I think it’s important, too, that devout traditional Catholics get to know one another and support one another, to bear one another’s burdens, as the Scripture says. We ought to be prepared to do that and be sensitive to families that might be suffering some particular difficulty in this regard, and try to be as close to one another as possible.
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The full intervies: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/03/exclusive-cardinal-burke-interview-with.html#more
Nice post. Noticed a typo in the Latin paraphrase–namely, an extra “lex”.
Reads: lex orandi statuat legem lex credendi
Should read: lex orandi statuat legem credendi
For those interested, the original seems to be (Louie might have covered it in a previous post, but I can’t remember): “… ut legem credendi lex statuat supplicandi” (Prosper of Aquitaine, De vocatione omnium gentium, 1, 12, PL 51 664C; Pope St. Celestine, Indiculus, ch. 8, Denzinger 139/246 cited in Br. Andre Marie, “Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi” @ http://catholicism.org/lex-orandi-lex-credendi.html — Note: site seems to be Feeneyite, but it’s the best I could find after a quick search)
We’re screwed.
Excellent piece, and replies. Seems overwhelming. If you don’t analyze each word coming from the Vatican, you can be swept away in deception. Thank you, for your constant vigilance, and writings. They are a gift, and only sad more don’t read, or don’t believe.
I’m getting to the point where I approach Traditional Catholic websites with “fear and trembling” never knowing what the latest shenanigans are on the horizon coming from this papacy and the hierarchy. My only consolation (other than prayer) is knowing that there are those who stand for truth and defend the unchanging tenets of the Catholic Church. Thank you, Louie, John Vennari, Michael Matt, Chris Ferrara and many others. St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of battle.
“The same Spirit who inspired the Gospels and who acts in the Church also inspires the preacher to hear the faith of God’s people and to find the right way to preach at each Eucharist. (EG 139)”
This is pure modernism, as explained by Pope Saint Pius X in #23 of Pacendi. Here the pope explains the modernist’ teaching:
“The nature of this authority is to be gathered from its origin, and its rights and duties from its nature. In past times it was a common error that authority came to the Church from without, that is to say directly from God; and it was then rightly held to be autocratic. But this conception has now grown obsolete. For in the same way as the Church is a vital emanation of the collectivity of consciences, so too authority emanates vitally from the Church itself. Authority, therefore, like the Church, has its origin in the religious conscience, and, that being so, is subject to it. Should it disown this dependence it becomes a tyranny.” (Cf #23, Pacendi, http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10pasce.htm )
The frustrating thing in all of this mess is just how blatantly obvious it all is. The vast vast majority of the human element of the church is blind and/or willfully blind.
What will it take for these people to wake up? Fire falling from heaven I suppose.
Bishop Schneider said it: this is the fourth great crisis in the Church. First the Arian Heresy, second the eastern schism, third the Protestant Rebellion, now the Modernist Heresy. In each of these crises we see millions of souls lapping up false teaching – avidly swallowing the poison, with itchy ears to hear the false gospel…to the present day when every word from Poor Francis is treated as if it’s never been heard before. The Poor! The Peripheries! The Gospel! Mercy! Healing! Wounds! The stink of the sheep!
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There has been some talk recently about Robert Hugh Benson’s “The Lord of the World”. It’s been portrayed as a story about secularism overtaking the world. But this is a wrong interpretation. It was a new religion that was swept into the world by Julian Feltsenberg. He was worshiped like a god. He came out of nowhere, out of America, and suddenly his voice was heard all over the world – all new thoughts with lots of hope and change – opening minds to hear them. One priest was chosen to face him. And I won’t spoil the ending for those who want to read it (you can download it to Kindle for free). But let’s just say this new religion was not favoured by Our Father in Heaven. What we’re seeing now is the five-year plan advocated by those who pushed this Pope into our hapless Church. We are in for a very difficult time. We may see millions swayed from the One True Church – or rather witness this Church morphed into something new, and awful.
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CraigV above says “The vast, vast majority of the human element of the church (sic) is blind and/or willfully blind.” But not just blind – they are hungry for candy, for peace at any cost, for assurance that they are not sinners but simply poor wounded children that need Papa Pope to lull them into a deathly sleep. Or rather isn’t he exhorting us into frenzied ‘action’ – any action out there – as long as we don’t have to stay on our knees here, and be quiet – and pray to know our sinfulness – and repent and repair?
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I try not to read quotes from Poor Francis because his words are so painful to read. I don’t remember ever hearing anything so awful. Even in the depths of John Paul II’s personalism, phenomenology, and Modernist blah blah, or Cardinal Ratzinger’s swaying back and forth from Modernism to semi-terrified-conservatism nothing like this was ever said or written. Both these men were modernist through and through from university onwards. Both paid lip-service to tradition and conservatism. Both had moments of panic when they saw things going wrong – neither was able to realize it was their very thoughts, writings and teachings that in large part brought about the crisis. Both thought they had power and realized it had been seized by others – and it was too late to turn back.
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Cling to The Catechism of Trent, The Baltimore Catechism, or The Catechism of Pius X, and read as many old encyclicals as you can get your hands on. Read everything you can written by anyone with St. before their names – as long as they died before 1950!
Don’t believe ANYTHING if it doesn’t fit into Tradition.
Thanks!
Most are in a longterm state of mortal sin. This dulls the intellect and hardens the heart.
“Even heretic “ministers,” albeit in ways imbued with error, venture to “proclaim the Gospel of God to all” as their “primary duty.” But then, that’s the point, isn’t it?” Exactly. The continuum of VII error continues.
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When anyone stops being concerned with Truth, anything goes, and usually any authentic God-given ability to love as Christ loved, for the sake of our eternal souls. The liturgy of the Novus Ordo has no where to go, Catholically speaking. It has to keep disappearing any hints of Catholicity – sending them off into some South American dictators hall of errors. The Novus Ordo (the defectible ‘church’) approves (in VII the theory of its teachings), anything. At any rate, a reminder about one aspect of the Novus Ordo ‘assembly’ of self-worshippers – women servers. The Catholic Church – indefectible – does not approve or consent to women servers and the sensus fidei of any Catholic concurs: “Pope Gelasius in his ninth letter to the bishops of Lucania condemned the evil practice which had been introduced of women serving the priest at the celebration of Mass. Since this abuse had spread to the Greeks, Innocent IV strictly forbade it in his letter to the bishop of Tusculum: ‘Women should not dare to serve at the altar; they should be altogether refused this ministry.’ We too have forbidden this practice in the same words….” Pope Benedict XIV, Encyclical Allatae Sun http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Ben14/b14allat.htm
Excellent article. Perceptive insight and well stated. Not surprising at all. PF is clearly liturgically tone deaf, not to mention dogmatically deficient. He is to the Church what Obama is to the USA…a radical narcissistic ideologue bent on a historical transformation. PF is getting bolder and we must continue to prayer that he becomes more and more outrageous to the point of waking up the dead and in-denial Catholic media. This will reach a point where even the media sycophants will become embarrassed. When it does the jackals will turn.
A question for anyone who wishes to respond:
Pardon my ignorance, but has Bergoglio EVER celebrated the TLM any time during his priesthood up to present day? Does he know how? This is not a rhetorical question. I really would like to know. If the answer is NO, this would explain the dreadful condition of this papacy and the horrific consequences for the entire Church. Sanctifying Grace is sorely lacking! Thank you one and all. God bless you!
Barbara,
I couldn’t agree with you more. Well said. This vacillating back and forth and speaking out of two sides of our mouths is what is contributing to the breakdown of marriage and sexual morals also. The thing that is most troubling and destabilizing is how one can speak with orthodoxy one minute and than be utterly imbued at the same time with modernistcs errors. One must be vigilant and in all charity take the good, and reject and point out the bad. As I pointed out in my last comment on the hierarchies of marriage in Louis’ most current last post on Timothy Dolan, John Paul II had the best thourough explanation on the hierarchy of the purposes of marriage that I have ever come across and this just astounds me still to this day. I am certainly not a fan of his writings as I have indicated in my comment on the previous posting. What I guess I am trying to say is we must be careful not throw the baby out with the bath water. Or better yet don’t pull out the weeds just yet lest you end up pulling up the good wheat along with it. When contradictions are sown, confusion is thus sown, and the faith is attacked and weakened. This is surely from the devil. We must be vigilant.
being trampled on and slowly destroyed.This is from the devil for sure.
my@cents, it’s doubtful, although I don’t have personal knowledge, whether Poor Francis has said the TLM. He is the ‘first post-concilar Pope’ as he says, and that means he was formed as a priest at the beginning of the darkness, and has breathed in that dark fog all his priestly life. How do we judge his words and deeds in this context?
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One of our former parish priests used to say, “all adult Catholics have the duty to seek the Truth, and if they don’t they are responsible.” That used to seem so harsh to me, but I understand it better now. Our Dear Father actually gives everyone this grace: to be able to find him, through reason first, then through Revelation, the Church, and all the other helps He has planned. This is done on an individual basis – tailored to each one’s capacity. If this Pope has gone astray we must hold him accountable on a personal level, and on the level that he is the teacher to millions. When he was being formed as a priest there was information available to him – he might have sifted through the modernist garbage to find that little kernel of truth, upon which to find the rest. But he did not do that. He willingly revelled in the NewTheology/NewPhilosophy which panders to all that is ‘natural’ in man. And we see so many millions gladly grasping at this new religion being formed out of the true religion….
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Bishop Sheen: “God has created another world to correct the injustices of this one.” Every wolf in sheep’s clothing will be brought to justice, Poor Francis too.
Sorry I missed removing those stragling words at the end.
Thank you, Barbara, for your kind and thoughtful response. Michael Matt’s latest RemnantTV demonstrates how the suppression of the TLM has opened the door to Satanic attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyspI2ib_tg
The only hope for our Church in crisis is the complete and absolute return to all things Traditional—esp, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
Thank you again, Barbara.
Here is an scholarly review by Cardinal Burke which clearly lays out through Canon Law the dangers of giving Holy Communion to public sinners:
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http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/holycom/denial.htm – it’s a long read but packed with material to tuck away for reference.
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What I take away is that it is even conceivable that Poor Francis, and all the Bishops and Cardinals who publicly promote Holy Communion to public sinners (including those divorced and ‘remarried’), and who actually practice this, may be in objective mortal sin as well – and should not be receiving Holy Communion.
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What’s interesting is that as recently as the reign of John Paul II it was taught that unrepentant public sinners were not to receive. Waaaaaayyyyy back then! All, all gone in two years.
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Frightening isn’t it when we start to look at what the Church really teaches in this grave matter? Cardinal Burke also says that the fact many Catholics think nothing of this practice, or who think denying Communion to public sinners is harsh, or is a good thing for their healing, are already scandalized and this MUST be corrected. Thanks to a comment on Mundabor for the link.
Good comment, I recently read from the Barnhardt.biz blog, Ann Barnhardt, again warning us to beware, even if it’s old
doesn’t mean it is true and to be wary until researching who what where and when, I am referring to her article about Pope Francis making Gregory of Navrek, a 10th century theologian, a Doctor of the Church. Excellent write up, and a teaching for us sheep, who think if this person is 10th century, then he must be right on with the other good guys of his time. Wrong. She claims:… ‘him to be a heretic and particularly a “Miaphysitite”, those that hold Christ has only one nature, which contains both a divine “character and a human “character Claiming this heresy is referred to today as the “oriental Orthodox ” churches… This information goes along with Louie’s article in that realizing the importance of approaching everything written with knowledge and wisdom (hmmm, you think the Holy Spirit is about!) Not only should we rely on excellent catechises, but our children need to be raised in this and a good heaping of Natural Law teachings also, so as to give them foundational tools to continue with our Lord’s teachings. Seems we are rounding the bend good men, yet we will not always be able to rely on the Verriecho’s, or Vennari’s, Matt’s, or Ferrara’s, and Barnhardt’s (inspite of the amazing God send they are now). We must put on the armor of God, with humility and do our research, have that under our belt, fine tune our senses, and those who God sends our way, we will be able to help.
Barnhart is good but a few things concern me…
It appears she is in the “stay away from the sspx” camp. Also I think she pushes the fables the government spins on such topics as 9-11, and the current march to war lies and propaganda were being fed regarding Russia and the Ukraine.
Check out the latest Fatima Crusader for info on the latter (or Paul Craig Roberts’ website for secular reporting on the same).
It just makes me wonder if there’s a little Voris in her, if you get my drift. Controlled opposition.
I don’t think so.
When was he ordained? Isn’t he the first pope to have never sworn the anti-modernist oath?
Louie writes: “insults hurled in the direction of faithful Catholics by the reigning pope”.
I am afraid I could not get past the words, “the reigning pope”.
Recently, I discovered that a blogger of whom I had had some previous awareness came to the following realization about Jorge Bergoglio as early as the fall of 2013:
http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2013/09/jorge-bergoglio-and-the-vacant-throne/
Her next entry on the subject was this:
http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2013/11/the-joyful-hot-air-of-a-pseudo-pope/
I am surprised that, by March 2015, I have not found other bloggers who have reached the same conclusion.
Hello Barbara. The truth is the JPII was as much a part of Team-Belial as Bergoglio is.
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I have a book on my shelf that was published in 2000, entitled, ‘We Resist You to the Face’ – the title taken from Galations 2:11 where St Paul says, “But when Cephas (St Peter) was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.”
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Its authors are Michael Matt, John Vennari, Marian Therese Horvat PH.D, and Atila Sinke Guimaraes. The book is an appeal to/indictement against the Wojtyla/JPII and his desecration of the ‘Papacy’ – his naked women masses, his ‘Catholic woodstock’ round the world whirl of nothing but worldiness, his appalling ‘concord’ with the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights despite its support for population control through abortion, sterilization and contraception. His declaration that it is a human right to change religon according to conscience (denying the Rights of God to have His True Faith adhered to over and above the vagaries of human ‘conscience’), his public declaration that the god of muslims and all who don’t believe Christ and His Word, is the same god Catholics supposedly believe in – a public denial that Christ is God and ‘no one comes to the Father but by Me…he who has seen Me has seen the Father’. The book denounces JPIIs remaking of the ‘papacy’ so it will be acceptible to schismatics, his pan-religious Assisi abominations. Let’s also remember JPIIs continuing Paul VIs erroneous redifinition of marriage as not being primarily procreative (Catholic Doctrine) but as being equally ‘unitive’ (which JPII took to creepy depths in his ‘Theology of the Body’.) The book also address how Roncalli made concord with Jewish delegates who were known enemies of the Church which led to Nostra Aetate. The Book of the Apocalypse calls Jews who work against the Church, the ‘synagogue of satan’ – they are not permitted to be called Jews by the Angel of Christ who speaks to St John in the Apocalypse. The ‘concord’ that Wojtyla, and Montini and Roncalli et al made and continue to make with belial convicts them of their faithlessness. John Vennari has a couple of excellent articles at the end of the book called, ‘The Gospel according to non-believers’ – fits Bergoglio to a tee. It would be good if this book were available on kindle or in PDF… ‘Your Holiness and Pope John Paul I were the first two popes who refused to be crowned with the Papal Tiara (regarding which, Paul VI, ‘in a dramatic act in November 1963 [layed the Papa Tiara] on the altar of St. Peter’s Basilica in a gesture of humility to symbolise the papacy’s surrender of any claim to temporal power’)
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These men were and remain Team-Belial = abominators and desolators.
Thanks for the link to ‘The Joyful Hot Air of a Pseudo-Pope…For all his talk of tenderness, Bergoglio sniffs disparagingly at Catholics.’ That’s a very tender way of putting what Bergoglio is up to which is, preaching the Gospel According to Non-Believers/Christ-deniers.
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“A pope who is a manifest heretic automatically (per se) ceases to be pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.” De Romano Pontifice, St Bellarmine.
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“As we said earlier, I repeat once more: If anyone preaches to you a gospel contrary to what you have received, let him be accursed. …The heretic, even though he has not been condemned formally by any individual, in reality brings anathema on himself, having cut himself off from the way of truth by his heresy. What reply can such people make to the Apostle when he writes: As for someone who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned. It was in the spirit of this text that Cyril of holy memory, in the books which he wrote against Theodore, declared as follows: ‘Whether or not they are alive, we ought to keep clear of those who are in the grip of such dreadful errors. It is necessary always to avoid what is harmful, and not to be worried about public opinion but rather to consider what is pleasing to God’.”Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Councils/ecum05.htm
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“Saint Peter’s Successors will at no time deviate from the Faith…Still less can the Roman Pontiff boast, for he can be judged by men — or rather, he can be shown to be judged, if he manifestly ‘loses his savor’ in heresy. For he who does not believe is already judged.” Pope Innocent III, In Consecratione
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Pope Paul IV in his encyclical Cum ex Apostolatus Officio teaches that if one who was a known heretic is made ‘pope’ his election is “null, void and worthless”.
http://www.sedevacantist.com/encyclicals/Paul04/cumex.html
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The defective Novus Ordo 1983 code of canon ‘law’ is clear, ‘Since no one can judge the pope, no one could depose a pope for such crimes [schism, heresy, apostasy].’ (the text almost begs to finsih with, therefore even if you see open heresy, schism and apostasy, so what? we redefine what perfection is according to the ‘beat of the age’ and you must follow)
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Those who still consider Bergoglio and Team-Belial true popes seem to hit a brick wall over the ‘idea’ that there is no ‘mechanism’ to get rid of a Bergoglio or Team-Belial prelate – certainly not within the Novus Ordo, even though the Church has been very clear, a heretic is not Pope – it is tail chasing dog stuff.
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What the Novus Ordo with its heretical leaders has taught people to believe is that Christ has no authority over the Papacy (despite 2000 years of authentic doctrine, worship and discipline vouchsafed us by the indefectible Church/Popes which is still alive and kicking all over the earth, albeit in smaller portions). When Montini raised ‘temporal power’ over Christ, he effectively told the world and the Church, that a church which a Montini ruled was now the world/temporal and must burn its incense to Caesar. We are expected to believe that not even Truth/Apostolic Tradition/And even the Holy See of unassailably authentic Popes has authority to anathematize a heretic. It is like satan saying, if I tell you God has given me authority to make you burn incense to Caesar, then you must! Um…gee, ok satan – not.
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The Church is indefectible and the Church and the Pope are one – so anyone who teaches defection is not the Pope and not ‘Church’. Meanwhile Christ gave as a very clear mechanism, shake the dust off your feet and have nothing to do with them. St Paul seconds this by crying out, ‘anathama’ meaning ‘you are outside the Church because you teach falsehoods/another doctrine, ‘another Jesus’ recieved from a different ‘spirit – like the serpent to Eve.
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A choice in the wake of Vatican II: The Church has defected or, men have defected and lost their offices and authority. http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/TradsInfall.pdf
Thanks for the link to ‘The Joyful Hot Air of a Pseudo-Pope…For all his talk of tenderness, Bergoglio sniffs disparagingly at Catholics.’ That’s a very tender way of putting what Bergoglio is up to which is, preaching the Gospel According to Non-Believers/Christ-deniers.
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“A pope who is a manifest heretic automatically (per se) ceases to be pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.” De Romano Pontifice, St Bellarmine.
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“As we said earlier, I repeat once more: If anyone preaches to you a gospel contrary to what you have received, let him be accursed. …The heretic, even though he has not been condemned formally by any individual, in reality brings anathema on himself, having cut himself off from the way of truth by his heresy. What reply can such people make to the Apostle when he writes: As for someone who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned. It was in the spirit of this text that Cyril of holy memory, in the books which he wrote against Theodore, declared as follows: ‘Whether or not they are alive, we ought to keep clear of those who are in the grip of such dreadful errors. It is necessary always to avoid what is harmful, and not to be worried about public opinion but rather to consider what is pleasing to God’.”Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople
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“Saint Peter’s Successors will at no time deviate from the Faith…Still less can the Roman Pontiff boast, for he can be judged by men — or rather, he can be shown to be judged, if he manifestly ‘loses his savor’ in heresy. For he who does not believe is already judged.” Pope Innocent III, In Consecratione
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Pope Paul IV in his encyclical Cum ex Apostolatus Officio teaches that if one who was a known heretic is made ‘pope’ his election is “null, void and worthless”.
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The defective Novus Ordo 1983 code of canon ‘law’ is clear, ‘Since no one can judge the pope, no one could depose a pope for such crimes [schism, heresy, apostasy].’ (the text almost begs to finsih with, therefore even if you see open heresy, schism and apostasy, so what? we redefine what perfection is according to the ‘beat of the age’ and you must follow)
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Those who still consider Bergoglio and Team-Belial true popes seem to hit a brick wall over the ‘idea’ that there is no ‘mechanism’ to get rid of a Bergoglio or Team-Belial prelate – certainly not within the Novus Ordo, even though the Church has been very clear, a heretic is not Pope – it is tail chasing dog stuff.
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What the Novus Ordo with its heretical leaders has taught people to believe is that Christ has no authority over the Papacy (despite 2000 years of authentic doctrine, worship and discipline vouchsafed us by the indefectible Church/Popes which is still alive and kicking all over the earth, albeit in smaller portions). When Montini raised ‘temporal power’ over Christ, he effectively told the world and the Church, that a church which a Montini ruled was now the world/temporal and must burn its incense to Caesar. We are expected to believe that not even Truth/Apostolic Tradition/And even the Holy See of unassailably authentic Popes has authority to anathematize a heretic. It is like satan saying, if I tell you God has given me authority to make you burn incense to Caesar, then you must! Um…gee, ok satan – not.
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The Church is indefectible and the Church and the Pope are one – so anyone who teaches defection is not the Pope and not ‘Church’. Meanwhile Christ gave as a very clear mechanism, shake the dust off your feet and have nothing to do with them. St Paul seconds this by crying out, ‘anathama’ meaning ‘you are outside the Church because you teach falsehoods/another doctrine, ‘another Jesus’ recieved from a different ‘spirit – like the serpent to Eve.
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A choice in the wake of Vatican II: The Church has defected or, men have defected and lost their offices and authority. http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/TradsInfall.pdf
Dear DO,
The link was interesting, and her honesty is refreshing. We also read the comments responding to it, and noticed this link provided by an FSSP priest, who asked her to read it. She promised she would:
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2013-0315-siscoe-sedevacantism.htm
It’s one we’ve read before which convinced us the problems are much more complicated than the average lay person realizes just lying awake nights worrying about the Church, as this person says she was doing. We sympathize with everyone going through this, as it’s not an easy time for any of us who wish to be Faithful to Christ, and recognize that things seem very wrong at the top.
1969.
The abomination of desolation.
I believe that the Pope is an obstinate manifest heretic. But the Church must formally adjudicate and make the declaration.
The Remnant had an article not too long ago on how the Church would handle a heretical pope. It’s complicated…but logical…
“Can the Church Depose a Heretical Pope?” http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1284-can-the-church-depose-an-heretical-pope
The problem of course is the majority of the hierarchy are infected with the same modernist errors. This crisis will take direct Divine intervention if it’s ever gonna be resolved.
The only way I can handle it is to look at it as the Passion of His Mystical Body. Our Lord allowed Himself to be handed over to the enemies. And now His Mystical Bride is undergoing the same. There will be a resurrection. Somehow, some way.
Dear CraigV,
It does seem to require Direct Divine intervention, even to bring about the collegial Consecration of Russia requested by Our Lady of Fatima, which promises such a miracle. We are being called upon to stand with her at the foot of the Cross, offering our sufferings, and praying for much good to come of all the evils God is allowing to be manifest everywhere. We do see a deepening of conviction among those who had awareness of the crisis before this point, and many more are awakening to it now that more and more upper hierarchy are publicly standing up against the worst errors being circulated. There is a great battle in progress right now. And we have God’s word that He will not allow the evil one to prevail in the end. It is a time for us to encourage one another by remaining strong in our Faith in the Lord Whom we have every reason to Trust, as He neither deceives, nor can be deceived.
Dear All,
Cardinal Burke is forging ahead with his travels-spreading the true Faith and devotion to God through his speeches and offerings of Pontifical Masses wherever he goes. Rorate Caeli has his upcoming schedule for March in the UK and Germany :
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/03/tireless-shepherd-cardinal-burkes.htmlr
under the heading: “Tireless Shepherd”
God bless him and keep him growing in the Faith.
It’s crucial to understand how Christ, who is Authority -‘unto Him is given all authority in heaven and Earth and under the Earth’ – dealt with ‘temporal authority’ as opposed to Temple authority. When it came to spiritual authority He castigated falsehood and preached His Truth. Being Authority Himself, He fulfilled the letter and the spirit. When it came to worldly authority, he chose three paths, preaching the Gospel (before Pilate) or choosing silence (before Herod – a false and utter mockery of kingship whose approach was ‘dialogue’ – something Christ doesn’t do), or drinking the cup of His Passion for the Victory for souls, fulfilling His Mission of Victory over sin and Victory over the father of lies. The teaching of ‘turn the other cheek’ is often misunderstood. It means to stand one’s ground for the sake of Truth. Certainly, at the slaps of Bergoglio we have been having to turn the other cheek like there was no tomorrow; but we turn a cheek, just a cheek, meaning we don’t back down, turn away or pretend there is no slap coming; we stand convicting the one who assaults us; Bergoglio leads souls to hell who have not the strength to stand against his spin, so we must stand, ‘unshakable’ in the face of such falsehoods and not be run down by them. God is the rock upon which we stand. We are no where obligated to submit to falsehood. It is the Martyr/Saint who stands against falsehood, convicting the lie and the liar under the Cross of Christ.
my dear salvemur,
you & most of the brethren here know I am just an old lady who’s been characterized as a creed-reciting parrot Christian by Frank. Quite (frankly) all I did was read dear Mr. V.’s headline and knew I’d drop dead if I read this latest of current events, despite Mr. V’s. always excellent treatment. Please explain this all to a frail old lady, –very, very gently.
Prayers for all my dear friends here.
Hello de Maria. In Truth we are all frail and with one toe, or more, in the grave. As a fellow ‘creed-reciting-parrot’ – “Grace be to you and peace. We give thanks to God always for you all; making a remembrance of you in our prayers without ceasing”.
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I reckon Louie is saying, ‘Oh dear, me’, the wayward one in the white cassock wants a New/Novus Novus Ordo – gird your loins! In other words, we who have not traded in the Pearl of Great price for the fallow field, need only watch and pray. 15 Decades a day! God bless you, de Maria – roses at the foot of Our Lady for you and yours.
PS. a wolf is a wolf is a wolf and the sheeps know. God bless and keep you in His Grace.