We have reached the point where it is no longer a matter of debate; Pope Francis intends to destroy the hierarchical structure of the Church as Christ willed it. The time for faithful men – laymen, priests, bishops and cardinals – to stand up and oppose him is well at hand.
I would like to offer an alternative perspective on this dreadful state of affairs.
It seems that one of the main responses to those of us who cannot recognize Bergoglio’s claim to be Vicar of the Second Person of the Holy Trinity (if indeed he makes that claim), is to require that we answer the question:
“What do you propose to do about the ‘vacant see’?”.
As an aside, the subject of Louie’s video surely indicates that the future of the (disputed) papacy under Bergoglio is out of the hands of any traditionalist, aka Catholic, regardless of his or her position on his legitimacy.
That said, however, is his legitimacy truly dependent on answering the above question? I submit that it is not. To help explain why, I propose that one considers and compares the following two questions:
1) Is the legitimacy of Jorge Bergoglio’s papacy determined by having an answer to the question, “What do you propose to do about the ‘vacant see’?”?
If so,
2) Is the legitimacy of IVF determined by having an answer to the question, “What do you propose to do about the embryos currently in frozen storage?”?
All catholics must resist this pope. A false notion of obedience is killing us. This is exemplified by two extremes which stall resistance:
1. Because he is the pope he must be perfect.
2. If he is not perfect he is not the pope.
It is true that the “Fatima curse” must be lifted before victory is accomplished. I do not believe that things will end well for the current pope.
Meanwhile, one very large Video operation by way of Ferndale,MI, looks like they are drinking the Bergolian Kool Aid in regards to “A Healthy Decentralization.”
Gee, which backers are they trying to please.
Francis is the Joseph Hazelwood of the Catholic Church.
I wouldn’t worry though, nobody listens to the USCCB anyway; its just a club where the good ol’ boys can commisserate, and issue documents that no one reads on the “social issues” de-jour ; it makes themselves feel important deciding how to spend their thirty pieces from Uncle Sam. Meanwhile, the ship runs aground.
Michael F Poulin
Indignus famulus – are you still around these parts, my friends?
Around eight months ago, I told you in this space that I would address an article you referenced, “Why I Left The SSPX Milieu”, by an ex-SSPX priest. I have finally gotten around to that, and Part I of my piece will appear in next month’s Catholic Family News.
God bless.
Amen! Thanks, Louie. You are always on point.
Your logic is St Thomas’…Catholic. and remember Ratzinger criticized such.
Louie is on the money in that looking to any ‘son of Roncalli’ is not a Catholic response to the crisis of a counterfeit church. Bergoglio’s ‘spirit’ and ‘path’ is pure Prostestantism. And that path was established by the traitor Roncalli, and the bricks laid and sign posts to the utopia of man-centred hell put up by his ‘sons’, the most ‘august’ of which remains the wretched Christ-hater, Wojtyla.
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http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.co.nz/2015_09_01_archive.html
Is it true that the voting on the final document paragraphs is going to be done… electronically?
DANGER… DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!
Michael Voris has released his most baffling Vortex yet… Oy Vey… 🙁
http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/the-vortexfailed-papacy
I went over to The Vortex website and watched the latest Vortex.
Wow!
First Mr Voris talks about the crises facing the Church (not a spelling mistake – I mean plural crises, not just one crisis), then he talks about the corrupt Churchmen who are doing this. Just when I thought, finally this man is starting to get it – Voris then spends the final section of his presentation explaining how it is absolutely NOT the Pope’s fault and that, having admitted the Pope personally chose the crowd of heretics that surround him, somehow it is in no way the Pope’s fault, but rather these wicked men are making the Pope do what he does!
What is it with Mr Voris?
Why is everyone, and I mean everyone, in the Church, able to be criticised for the parlous state we in – but not the Pope.
No way.
Not one word of criticism must be levelled at him. This is in spite of the numerous heterodox, misleading and downright erroneous statements this Pope has made.
Johnno, electric or by hand …the votes are little more than communists putting in a vote for how much the proletariat will swallow next:
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https://youtu.be/RG0ochx16Dg
John 314. The falsehoods are that Christ’s Vicar must be free from personal sin, and that Christ’s Vicar is not protected from universally leading souls astray.
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Any self-professed Catholic who believes that Christ’s authoritative Vicar can lead the Church astray, or that the private person of a ‘pope’ is immaculate, are deceived.
We do not pretend that life is all beauty. We are aware of darkness and sin, of poverty and pain.
But we know Jesus has conquered sin and passed through his own pain to the glory of the Resurrection.
And we live in the light of his Paschal Mystery – the mystery of his Death and Resurrection.
We are an Easter People and Alleluia is our song!
St John Paul II
Wonderful quote of John Paul II, Ever mindful! Did he recite this to the pagans and heretics at his Assisi meetings??????
As I have said before, JP2 set the stage—Bergoglio is dancing on it!!!!
This kind of thinking must be challenged. We are NOT an Easter people. We are a CRUCIFIXION people. We are asked by Jesus Himself to pick up our Crosses and follow Him. Jesus did not ask us to celebrate Easter Morning on our altars. He asked us to remember and represent His sacrifice on the CROSS.
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The kind of feel good stuff put out since Vatican II is simply not Catholic.
Thanks, Louie. We already know that Bergoglio likes a mess. Now we know that he likes things upside down. Perhaps, if he gives his next sermon standing on his head, some remnants of CATHOLIC blood (if he has any) will convert is Modernism brain (if he has one!)
Dear Barbara,
He was quoting St Augustine
It seems that the body snatchers have taken Mike Voris?
Poor Pope Frances surrounded on all sides by enemies !!!
Pope Frances: Vatican City, 21 February 2014 ….” I read and reread Cardinal Walter Kasper’s document and I would like to thank him, as I found it to be a work of profound theology, and also a serene theological reflection. My idea was that this is what we call doing theology on one’s knees. Thank you, thank you”.
one can’t make this stuff up !!!!
Louie, you have demonstrated again a deep awareness of the current crisis, and you have made it clear how all of us, even the correct critics of the current Papacy, are spiritually walking on a razor’s edge. I’ll be especially mindful of you in my upcoming prayers.
Vatican II, Archbishop Wojtyla ….“It is not the role of the Church to lecture unbelievers. We are engaged in a search along with our fellow men – let us avoid moralizing or the suggestion that we have a monopoly on truth.” As Pope he repeated this in his encyclical Ut unum sint !!!
Voris boweth before The Building Donor, a man who himself, maketh no sense.
Just WHAT GAME ON FOX is Mr Voris watching?
In fact WHAT GAME ON TBS is The Cheque Writer watching?
Be that as it may JPII had a way about him that makes anything he says sound slightly off. Contrast him with St. Augustine. St. Augustine could make a statement like that and know that the Cross is the mainstay of our Faith. Put it into JPII’s mouth and the whole meaning changes.
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By their fruits you shall know them. What legacy has St. Augustine left us? A bit deeper, and richer than 100 JPIIs could manage in 1,000 years.
Yes, Michael the Purchased is still saying Bergoglio has just been led astray by others and that it’s the media’s fault all those false expectations were set. He cannot bring himself to admit this is a failed papacy, either because of cognitive dissonance or the fact he has, after all, sold his soul in exchange for buildings and equipment.
But check out his combox. Either they haven’t cleaned out all the posts critical of Bergoglio yet, or there are just so many of them that they have to leave some in. He’s going to start losing viewers/members by the boatload soon if he doesn’t wake up.
This is typical Modernist talk. Since when has teaching the truth to all men been lecturing? It is not true that we are searching – we have the truth – it’s our fellow men outside the Church who are searching.
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Again since when is teaching Catholic truth moralizing? And to suggest that we DON’T have a monopoly on truth is just not Catholic.
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So please let’s not use JPII as the go-to-guy when we’re looking for a neat quote!
I meant that for EM, not ock.
Christ did not conceal from his listeners the need for suffering. He said very clearly: “If any man would come after me… let him take up his cross daily ”(81), and before his disciples he placed demands of a moral nature that can only be fulfilled on condition that they should “deny themselves”(82). The way that leads to the Kingdom of heaven is “hard and narrow”, and Christ contrasts it to the “wide and easy” way that “leads to destruction”(83). On various occasions Christ also said that his disciples and confessors would meet with much persecution, something which—as we know—happened not only in the first centuries of the Church’s life under the Roman Empire, but also came true in various historical periods and in other parts of the world, and still does even in our own time.
The Gospel of suffering speaks first in various places of suffering “for Christ”, “for the sake of Christ”, and it does so with the words of Jesus himself or the words of his Apostles. The Master does not conceal the prospect of suffering from his disciples and followers. On the contrary, he reveals it with all frankness, indicating at the same time the supernatural assistance that will accompany them in the midst of persecutions and tribulations ” for his name’s sake”. These persecutions and tribulations will also be, as it were, a particular proof of likeness to Christ and union with him. “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you…; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you… A servant is not greater than his master. If they persecuted me they will persecute you… But all this they will do to you on my account, because they do not know him who sent me”(85). “I have said this to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world”(86).
Down through the centuries and generations it has been seen that in suffering there is concealed a particular power that draws a person interiorly close to Christ, a special grace. To this grace many saints, such as Saint Francis of Assisi, Saint Ignatius of Loyola and others, owe their profound conversion. A result of such a conversion is not only that the individual discovers the salvific meaning of suffering but above all that he becomes a completely new person. He discovers a new dimension, as it were, of his entire life and vocation. This discovery is a particular confirmation of the spiritual greatness which in man surpasses the body in a way that is completely beyond compare. When this body is gravely ill, totally incapacitated, and the person is almost incapable of living and acting, all the more do interior maturity and spiritual greatness become evident, constituting a touching lesson to those who are healthy and normal.
The answer which comes through this sharing, by way of the interior encounter with the Master, is in itself something more than the mere abstract answer to the question about the meaning of suffering. For it is above all a call. It is a vocation. Christ does not explain in the abstract the reasons for suffering, but before all else he says: “Follow me!”. Come! Take part through your suffering in this work of saving the world, a salvation achieved through my suffering! Through my Cross. Gradually, as the individual takes up his cross, spiritually uniting himself to the Cross of Christ, the salvific meaning of suffering is revealed before him. He does not discover this meaning at his own human level, but at the level of the suffering of Christ. At the same time, however, from this level of Christ the salvific meaning of suffering descends to man’s level and becomes, in a sense, the individual’s personal response. It is then that man finds in his suffering interior peace and even spiritual joy.
The parable of the Good Samaritan belongs to the Gospel of suffering. For it indicates what the relationship of each of us must be towards our suffering neighbour. We are not allowed to “pass by on the other side” indifferently; we must “stop” beside him. Everyone who stops beside the suffering of another person, whatever form it may take, is a Good Samaritan. This stopping does not mean curiosity but availability. It is like the opening of a certain interior disposition of the heart, which also has an emotional expression of its own. The name “Good Samaritan” fits every individual who is sensitive to the sufferings of others, who “is moved” by the misfortune of another. If Christ, who knows the interior of man, emphasizes this compassion, this means that it is important for our whole attitude to others’ suffering. Therefore one must cultivate this sensitivity of heart, which bears witness to compassion towards a suffering person. Some times this compassion remains the only or principal expression of our love for and solidarity with the sufferer.
I now end the present considerations on suffering in the year in which the Church is living the extraordinary Jubilee linked to the anniversary of the Redemption.
The mystery of the Redemption of the world is in an amazing way rooted in suffering, and this suffering in turn finds in the mystery of the Redemption its supreme and surest point of reference.
We wish to live this Year of the Redemption in special union with all those who suffer. And so there should come together in spirit beneath the Cross on Calvary all suffering people who believe in Christ, and particularly those who suffer because of their faith in him who is the Crucified and Risen One, so that the offering of their sufferings may hasten the fulfilment of the prayer of the Saviour himself that all may be one(102). Let there also gather beneath the Cross all people of good will, for on this Cross is the “Redeemer of man”, the Man of Sorrows, who has taken upon himself the physical and moral sufferings of the people of all times, so that in love they may find the salvific meaning of their sorrow and valid answers to all of their questions.
Together with Mary, Mother of Christ, who stood beneath the Cross(103),we pause beside all the crosses of contemporary man.
We invoke all the Saints, who down the centuries in a special way shared in the suffering of Christ. We ask them to support us.
And we ask all you who suffer to support us. We ask precisely you who are weak to become a source of strength for the Church and humanity. In the terrible battle between the forces of good and evil, revealed to our eyes by our modern world, may your suffering in union with the Cross of Christ be victorious!
To all of you, dearest brothers and sisters, I send my Apostolic Blessing.
Given at Rome, at Saint Peter’s, on the liturgical Memorial of Our Lady of Lourdes, 11 February 1984, in the sixth year of my Pontificate.
ST JOHN PAUL II
APOSTOLIC LETTER
SALVIFICI DOLORIS
OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF
JOHN PAUL II
TO THE BISHOPS, TO THE PRIESTS,
TO THE RELIGIOUS FAMILIES
AND TO THE FAITHFUL
OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
ON THE CHRISTIAN MEANING
OF HUMAN SUFFERING
I, too, have been disappointed with the direction that Michael has taken in recent months. It is pretty clear that money and the need for it to support an expanding enterprise is a MAJOR driving force at CM.
Even so, I think his “touching” on the issues of the papacy is a good step. Not as far as I would like to see him go. But there are people like Louie for that. That fact that Michael is even willing to hint at a problem with the papacy is a step in the right direction. We can pray for more movement in this directions.
By the way, Louie, not to divert attention from the truth and power of what you say, but … I LOVE the opera posters in the background. I can almost imagine our pope Bergoglio singing Musetta’s aria. Well, actually, not really. It would likely be dreadful, but what I mean is that the text might fit him well:
When walking alone on the streets,
People stop and stare
And examine my beauty
From head to toe…
And then I savor the cravings
which from their eyes transpires
And from the obvious charms they perceive
The hidden beauties.
So the scent of desire is all around me,
It makes me happy!
And you who know, who remembers and yearns,
You shrink from me?
I know why this is:
You do not want to tell me of your anguish,
But, (O Holy Church), you feel like (you are) dying!
Regarding the Synod AGAINST the Family:
“This is the day Bergoglio has made. Let us resist and be mad in it”
I’m delighted to see that you’re a Puccini lover. I hope Verdi posters may be seen elsewhere.
Just one: Il Trovatore. 🙂
Please explain the “razor’s edge” part.
Great! Verdi’s my main man.
Evil intentions. Yes! Now you are starting to really understand. The False Prophet does intend to destroy the Church while making it look true, so that he can ultimately create the one world religion.
Based on private revelation, I know that EWTN will become a major mouthpiece for the false prophet after Mother Angelica dies.
Also, Pope Paul VI had a double for a time, and the other post V2 popes were “Peter in chains” as Malachi Martin described. With so many Freemasons in the Vatican, real popes could not do much. In fact, that is how “altar girls” were “approved”, through Freemason released documents not really approved by JP2.
Get read for the formal schism – or shattering – with “national churches.” There will be a minority of prelates who speak up and refuse the heresies. It is these who we will unite with and form the remnant Church while the heretics will own the buildings.
Francis is the biblical false prophet
Prophecied by St Francis Assisi. He is preparing the way for the Antichrist who will appear on the world scene during WW3 as the great peace maker.
In reference to the video, what does “essential doctrine” mean? What would be an example of an non-essential doctrine? To avoid heresy, don’t we have to accept all Church doctrines? In that sense, all doctrines are essential.
Better late than never
Diabolic disorientation and culpable blindness.
Fantastic. Especially after the 13 minute mark. The “false choice” is a solid point.
That is a denial of the Incarnation and Passion and the establishment of the Church by Our Lord. A denial of God’s chosen means of salvation, and all salvation history.
God became man, suffered, died and rose again, creating the Church so that the whole world would know Him, the Truth, and knowing, loving and serving him, be saved.
Voting on matters of eternal truth as given us by God – is evil and mutiny against God.
As sure as the rising sun, each time I read “saint” in front of John Paul II, my eyeballs bleed a little.
Nothing a little Pascendi can’t remedy, naturally.
Agree. But God is good. What these men do or decide is happening outside the Catholic Church. That people would have a counterfeit and call it Catholic is the pressing issue.
Wojtyla was an enemy of Christ. It is scandalous to pretend otherwise. He mocked God in the first commandment, mocked the Mass with pagan, Protestant, not mention topless ‘extraordinary ministers’. He wrote and promoted the diabolical ‘Theology of the body’ – a contradiction in terms. His encyclicals reek of antichrist humanism, religious indifference and standard modernist hypocrisy. He presided over decades of child abuse and did nothing. He contrived the Balamand agreement. He created the ‘rock stadium “mass”‘. He spent millions placing his anti-pope slippers upon as much global soil to sell the counterfeit church as possible. He also had a gigantic swimming pool put in Castle Gandolfo so he could do his laps, in between skiing trips and creating the liturgical dance culture. And, he mocked God and His Church with the Assisi evil.
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Many cultures would curse his memory. A Catholic however, does evil to celebrate it.
PS. And how could anyone forget the antipapal lips kissing the devil’s nethers when he smooched the koran – a wretched book of lies, mocking Truth, which denies the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and refers to the Most Holy Trinity as something I will not repeat.
I hear often the argument that VII was not infallible and can be resisted when teaching an error on faith and morals that conflicts with Tradition. This argument is based on the premise that there is a third level of teaching that belongs to the Ordinary Magisterium, is universal, but yet is not infallible like the second level of teaching that belongs to the same universal Ordinary Magisterium. This is due to the supposed lack of language within the teaching and the lack of an anathema if rejected. See the below URLs for such an argument.
http://catholicism.org/the-four-kinds-of-magisterial-statement-and-the-various-responses-catholics-owe-to-each.html
http://catholicism.org/the-three-levels-of-magisterial-teaching.html
http://catholicism.org/vatican-ii-and-the-levels-of-magisterial-teaching.html
In my studies, I have yet to find any Church teaching, prior to VII, mentioning this third level of teaching. Those who subscribe to this idea try to prove their position to be true by quoting Vatican II popes or more recent ones. This presents a problem because one must accept a post Vatican II teaching in order to deny others. It also seems that this third level of teaching was introduced to us by Modernists who reject early 1900s PBC declarations and other teachings such as those in Humanae Vitae.
Can anyone provide me with authoritative teachings of the Church prior to 1962 that will either prove true this third level of teaching or prove it to be a myth?
Thanks
Yes! Fantastic. I agree —- this is most poignant after the 13 minute mark when you speak about the “false choice.” “Satan is served no matter which one we choose…”
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Your ending is perfect.
“Unless and until a pope comes along who is willing to carry out Our Lady’s wishes, such as She articulated so plainly at Fatima ——
Until then this chastisement under which we are currently laboring is going to continue.”
Do you know what damage you may cause by throwing stones with your eyes blindfold?
Neither do you know the harm you may cause — and at times it is very great — by letting drop uncharitable remarks that to you seem trifling, because your eyes are blinded by thoughtlessness or passion.
St Josemaria Escriva
Call me a pharisee if you want, EM. It won’t change the truth that Wojtyla and Escriva belonged to a sect that worked and works, to dissolve Christ.
Re the escriva quote- ain’t just like the children of the father-of-lies to get all puritanical about their father’s potential victims who object.
Worth repeating, my2cents.
“and that which you have spoken in the ear in the chambers, shall be preached on the housetops.”
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http://www.the-pope.com/responsefv.html
Thank you, Louie, for this response to what has become obvious to us all, a truly heretical infiltration of the Church. The future will be left to a schism of huge proportions now. The disease of modernism has taken hold during these 100 years and how is deeply ingrained. VII set it free and this synod made it evident. There is no further need for proof of the intentions of those in authority in the Church. None of us wanted to face the incredible scandal and pain of having to correct what was growingly more obvious with each year. It will be very complicated because the position of the pope is involved. In the end, the schism will take place for the protection of the true Church. It will go back to the beginning of the collapse, VII. It will hold a council to expose and eradicate modernism from its ranks and its mind. It will be misunderstood and persecuted. In the end, it will thrive as it always has until He returns.
It’s a tired theme herein and already much debated, Alphonsus Jr., so I don’t want to belabour the point, but judgment of the Pope brings with it peculiar perils. (And reminding myself of this peril does not make what Mr. Verrecchio says wrong. In fact, reason dictates one should concur with Mr. Verrecchio.) The dissident theologians of the 60’s, especially evident after the issuing of Humanae Vitae, notwithstanding attempts by Pope JP II with then Card. Ratzinger to reign in the dissidents in the mid-80’s, heralded a new age in which disobedience to the Pope became fashionable especially among theologians and the seminaries. In disobeying the Pope and the Magisterium of the Church, these dissident theologians and prelates proved to be protestants in spirit. With the NO mass instituted by Pope Paul VI in 1969, the tendency to make ‘protestant’ the Church and the members of the Church became pronounced. For example, now the ultimate authority to rank and file Catholics became their individual consciences. In short, most of the Church’s teaching institutions, its liturgy and members themselves have become Protestants in one degree or another.
Which brings us to where we are now and the ‘razor’s edge’ image above. We all have become somewhat like the dissident theologians in the 1960’s insofar as we are, or will have to be, disobedient to a Pope, in one way or another. There is no two ways around this.
Yes, Adam’s sin was disobedience to God, and not to God’s representatives on earth (the stoning of the prophets of old would excel in that latter sin), but we must face the fact that we risk suffering from the sin of disobedience. And although disobedience is not a capital sin per se, disobedience seems to hold within itself a legion of sins, especially when the disobedience is toward the visibly instituted vicar of God. (Ergo, the dissident theologians of the 1960’s and the paedophilia scandal of the 80s, 90s and 2000s are causally connected, I submit.)
And I may be far worse than most especially as the propensity to private revelation to criticize the Hierarchy makes me more protestant than most. And the personal and moral hazards I have experienced doing so are apparent, at least to me. (It seems the demons are especially excited by troubled souls whose moral world seems to be out of joint.)
This is the razor’s edge referred to above.
In general this ‘razor’s edge’, this challenge to sin or not to sin, has been with us always not withstanding the present crisis. But in an age where laymen such as the worthily courageous Mr. Vorrecchio, and a low life like myself who rants in the peanut gallery, can take up arms of words against this sea of heresy at high places and actually make a point….well… this may be utterly unique in the annals of Church history.
But surely we pew sitters have not been asked to do this or that YET have we?
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The obedience/disobedience will come in the not too distant future for faithful bishops and priests. Once the dust settles from this sham in Rome there will be subtle and not so subtle messages coming out of National Bishop’s Conferences to do the unthinkable – for those who are not giving Holy Communion to adulterers already, or to active obvious homosexuals. Then the faithful ones will have to stand up, and disobey.
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Faithful bishops and priests do not have to obey evil, unjust laws so there is no worry there. The doo-doo will hit the fan to be sure but we expect that, no?
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As for you and I, I think it will be more a matter of moving from parish to parish to find a good priest for Mass and Confession (and the other Sacraments) rather than having to obey anything particular.
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Keeping our Faith whole and vibrant will be the focus we will have to maintain, especially when we will be very lonely in our faithful parishes.
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Another role for us: support for faithful bishops and priests. They will need courage and must know that there are many, many who want to follow their lead.
Thanks.
Watching the Vortex/Voris is like going to a NASCAR race and waiting to see the inevitable crash. MV is either in deep, deep denial or beholding to someones deep, deep pockets. His latest comment reflects the mind and the spine of a contortionist. He is moving into “Moonbeam” territory aka one brick short of a full load.
Just checked his Combox and the Moderator actually said the reason for their “no criticism of the Pope” policy is..are you sitting down?
“The Pope is different. He can’t be replaced”
If they are serious then that means they are objectively ignorant of the faith…Guess they never heard of Bellarmine or Suarez or Denzinger etc….
If that is too erudite for them, they could check out John Salza at his website (johnsalza.com) who explains clearly (see #s 12 & 13 on his list) the why and the how that a Pope can be removed.
He covers it thoroughly when explaining why the sedevacantist are in error. (12) http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic Tradition/Feature – Salza responds to Novus Ordo Watch;
(13) http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic%20Tradition/Feature%20-%20Bellarmine%20Against%20Suarez.pdf
Both articles are well worth everyone’s time
I find Salza a superb writer and apologist and right up there with Louie, Vennari, Matt, Ferrara, Rorate. They are all a must for clarity in these dark clouds of confusion being created by PF the Mischief Maker.
Salza is currently writing a 600 page book on Sedevacantist…ie why they are incorrect. He just finished the superb..”A Catechism on Fatima”. He is a bit more academic but remains highly readable and extremely informative.
Dear Jacobum, Not only can such a pope be found to be heretical and thereby found to have lost his office but a heretical pope should be put to the test and a finding and declaration made as soon as possible. A heretical pope has already lost the office in the eternal, supernatural forum, jus as he’s no longer a Catholic from the moment he chooses to adopt heresy. There is always a time lapse between a pope actually becoming a heretic and losing membership of the Faith and his office, on the one hand, and an official declaration of the fact as formally found, on the other. However, when the heresy is manifest and repeated and very flagrant and even repeated attempts to impose the heresies, as through the EG, the annulment MPs, the Synod public statements, etc., then the scandal caused by a failure to act on the part of the bishops is extremely egregious, and culpable, and they share to some extent in the terrible damage wrought on souls.
That encyclical on suffering was very good. I wrote an essay on it once. Among the very good stuff that JPII wrote.
I agree with you Barbara. This is what the diabolical disorientation and planned confusion by the evil powers and principalities is all about and has been manifesting itself for close to a hundred years and began its debut through it’s public activity with Pius XII reign. The ‘forked tongue double speak’ by writting or saying one orthodox thing in paragraph one and then hiding conveniently in the middle of your speech or writing in about paragraph 50 a modernist agenda so it doesn’t jump out at you is how this has been done and continues to be done to this day.Although I have to add the confused and the not so confused don’t even try to hide it anymore and they are getting drunk on their sloppiness. It truly is the ticket to drive the world to insanity. Be on guard. Don’t hang your hat with just any one group or personality. Fast, study, pray, repent and worship God not Man.
Alarico,
You disappoint me. Disobedience against Humanae Vitae? You have got to be kidding me. This document is precisely the obvious double speak on contraception if there ever was one. This document clearly endorsed the separation of procreation from unity for married couples through the endorsement of planned exclusive use of the infertile period in order to avoid having children. Take the shackles off of your eyes on this most crucial moral teaching. If you don’t see the error in this you fail seriously in Catholic moral teachings on purity and marriage.
They are repeating the Bizarre Philosophy of a Wealthy Texas Land Investor, who may have sipped too much from the Over Fluoridated Water Towers on the North Shore of Long Island, NY.