I just returned home from the Catholic Identity Conference; the second I’ve had the privilege of joining as one of the speakers (and the least of them at that, believe me).
In addition to attending the beautiful liturgies, listening to the outstanding talks, and reconnecting with the other speakers and various other friends that I don’t get to see nearly often enough, one of the best things about these events is that they provide a venue for people who “know” one another mainly from their interaction on social media (like this blog) to meet and spend time together in person.
Well, with this in mind, I have a announcement to make, or otherwise stated, an invitation to extend:
In June of 2016, Fr. Michael Rodriguez and I will be leading a group on a 12 day pilgrimage to Rome and a host of other noteworthy sites in Italy including Assisi, Siena, Florence, Orvieto and others. I won’t go into great detail here as all of the information is available by clicking the image below.
I do want to note a couple of things, however…
This trip isn’t about putting travelers through the paces with a series of talks, like an extended conference; it’s a pilgrimage first and foremost that will provide a great opportunity for us to soak in the riches of our Catholic faith.
I can’t tell you how excited I am that Fr. Rodriguez will be with us as our Chaplain. No doubt he’ll have a great deal to offer in helping us get the most out of this trip, especially in a spiritual sense; offering the Traditional Latin Mass, hearing confessions, granting us the benefit of his insights and knowledge, etc.
Incidentally, his presentation at the Catholic Identity Conference was outstanding. I’ll provide some excerpts from it here soon. The fullness of the text will be published in the Remnant as well. I’ll link to it when it’s available.
This trip also has ample time built in for leisure and to just plain enjoy all that Italy has to offer in addition to the magnificent churches and religious sites – from museums to vineyards and, of course, the incredible food!
Note that travelers are always free to do whatever they wish apart from the group. For example, you’ll see that on Sunday June 4th we’ll be in Rome where there will be an opportunity for Mass, the Angelus and the papal benediction. Some folks may prefer to do something else. Of course, a lot can happen in eight months, and if Pope Pius XIII is there, it’s more likely that we’ll all be together. Just sayin’…
Lastly, I realize that this isn’t something that everyone can do as time and money are both hard to come by. The truth is, I couldn’t make this trip if Catholic Heritage Tours wasn’t willing to put it together. In fact, it was their idea. They got in touch with me a few months ago, and since then I’ve done some research and have talked to lots of people about them. I found out they’ve been arranging Catholic pilgrimages for over 20 years, and I’ve heard nothing but great things about them.
Ultimately, the thing that made me decide to move forward with this trip is recognizing how important it is that this blog serves as a “community” for like minded people who love the Catholic faith, and seeing how valuable those rare opportunities are for the who gather here to meet and spend time together in person; just like this past weekend’s conference.
So at this, take a look. I hope you can make it, otherwise, please pass this info around to others who may be interested in joining us.
What a blessing that trip will be to those who can make it…It would be very interesting to see the faces behind those who comment here…In my minds eye I could imagine those who thunder down fiery comments might turn out to be delightful elderly ladies sipping tea, little fingers expertly poised….
Ever mindful, you are a treasure!
And yes, what a wonderful opportunity to tread in the steps of the saints, with Father Rodrigues….oh well, we’ll see…
Catholic Identity. It’s about what one witnesses to. It must be the Catholic Faith.
To bear witness to the entire planet that heresiarchs are Vicars of Christ, and a whorish counterfeit is Holy Mother Church is to pervert Catholic Identity. The Church teaches that heresy is the fuel of the mystery of iniquity. VII and its heresiarchs lead souls to hell by their example and the falsehoods they imposed on every Catholic parish in the world.
Perhaps it should have been called the neo-Catholic Opinionism Conference. It is Opinionism to treat a heresiarch as if he is Pope, by using arguments of ‘authority’ to ignore the teachings, liturgy and disciplines of the Catholic Faith, which witness to all exactly what the Church is and where She is. And most certainly, where She is not and what She is not.
The real Remnant are, these days, called sedevacantists. But they are really just Catholics keeping the Faith, despite the proliferation of Opinionism.
More on Catholic Identity versus VII/Novus-Ordo-Counterfeit-Identity…an interesting comment from ‘Clare’ from a non-Opinionist site regarding Bergoglio’s response to being called an anti-pope:
“I’m sure that I haven’t said anything more than what’s written in the social doctrine of the Church.” Of course Bergoglio can say that with conviction because, as is noted in the analysis above, “Francis is right on one thing, however: He is merely repeating and developing Vatican II doctrine…” Bergoglio even reiterates, “I believe that I never said a thing that wasn’t the social doctrine of the Church.” It is clear that “The Church” he is referring to is not the Catholic Church, it is the Vatican II Church; Bergoglio believes in the social doctrine of the Vatican II New Order religion…It is for the thousands in the New Order V2 religion to examine the Creed, to examine what it is they truly believe when they profess their faith, not Bergoglio. Sure, arrogant and flip Bergoglio can recite it….no doubt as a mere rigid exercise…but (as stated above) “The Modernists are masters at affirming with their lips one day what they deny with the same lips on another…” This craft however, does not describe the sincere members of the V2 New Order religion who do not trivialize the Creed, who do want to follow Our Lord Jesus Christ and want to be in the Church that He founded, our Catholic Church. It is these people, within the V2 Church hierarchy of ministers and their parishioners, who must in truth examine the V2 religion and determine how it squares with true Catholicism in order to affirm their membership in it, that is, to believe what their Pope Francis believes, specifically the Vatican II Creed, or to believe the Creed of the true Catholic Faith that maintains everything that was taught and done by the Church prior to Vatican II. For true Catholics: “The solution is, to put it bluntly, the dumping of Vatican II. It must be dumped, that’s the only word for it. We cannot make any compromise; we cannot have any truck with the Modernists; that means any sort of contact and reconciliation with the Modernists. It’s very important for our Catholicism. So it’s not merely a question of going to Mass, it’s a question of being Catholic.” 12:28
Bishop Sanborn, Tridentine Mass Society, UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
It is a question of being Catholic.”
Not even Fr. Nicholas Gruner (RIP,) nor John Vennari would recommend the catechism from whence Fr. Rodriguez derives his catechesis, that being the JPII catechism – 1992. The wearing of the cassock & the ability to say the traditional mass do not a traditional priest make.
Excellent point. The progression of the mystery of iniquity.
This pilgrimage sounds very good. I pray there will be many graces and fruits. I only wish I could go. Fr Rodriguez is in my prayers – may God protect him and console and strengthen him. Thank you, God, for good priests.
Im sure satan is happy with you de maria attacking a good priest like fr Rodriguez. I nearly forgot your excuse is your doing GODs work because Fr Rodriguez isnt really a priest and the vast majority of catholics in the world are being fooled so really your doing everybody who reads this a favor if only we blind people could see it…………. as much as im annoyed at your comment i will pray for you.
Dear de Maria:
W/r/t the return to the ONE TRUE FAITH, this is a process. There is a great post at the SSPX’s website about Msgr. James Byrnes’ “journey”.
On an aside, I simply hate that “j” word. It sounds so VII-aberro-sexual.
Link here: http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/monsignor-tradition-10902
I admit to being behind the times when it comes to texting abbreviations (I don’t text), what is w/r/t and I also confess I didn’t understand your comment about the “j” word.
I would appreciate your kindness in responding.
September 29 – Dedication of St. Michael, Archangel
Enjoy the beautiful music & tradition
John Vennari’s full series on the Catechism of Pope Pius X entitled:
“Certitude of the Catholic Faith” can be found here:
One can only conclude from your reply that teaching from the 1992 Catechism is okay with you. I would want any other Catholic to warn me about Modernism being taught by anyone, whether it be a school teacher or yes, even a priest. As far as the body of your reply, not at all a charitable attempt at discussion & filled with assumptions. So be it.
Well you know that the fact that we disagree vis a vie it being “a process” is (partially) at the heart of that upon which we fundamentally disagree. But today I’m not wearing my knee guards my friend (not that they’re at all necessary in discussions with you, BTW) so no further on that right now.
But– I don’t understand the rest of your reply, though.
Peace be to you, my friend.
S.Armaticus is saying: “with regard to—
but, to the rest,as you can see , I don’t get the j either.
God love you.
As for me and for my house, we’ll stay with Peter…….’where’s Peter, there’s the Church!
Some things have no price……..to go to Rome, to discover our Catholic heritage with such a holy priest, in the year of Mercy ……..is priceless.
Let us pray, God Will Provide……..
St Michael, pray for our Holy Mother Church on Earth.
St. Peter, pray for your successor.
Holy Spirit, come down and guide Your Church and the Vicar of Christ.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.
Viva Cristo Rey!
This so-called discussion begins and ends with sedevacantists dismissing completely any thought that does not fall in with their ‘throwing out the baby with the bathwater’ mentality.
To dismiss Father Rodriguez out of hand because he is a faithful, obedient priest of The Holy Roman Catholic Church is mere foolishness.
Louie’s posts reflect Catholic Tradition, but this com-box appears to have become a soap-box for sedevacantists.
Believe it or not, not every thought, word, idea presented in these well-thought out posts needs a sedevacantist response. Give it a rest, and give us a break!
I believe the ‘j’ belongs to ‘journey’ which is neo-catholic blather.
Thank you, Barbara. But it still doesn’t make any sense (not to me, at least!) Don’t we have enough confusion without these strange words!!
Thank you, de Maria. I’m still waiting for Armaticus to explain!!
We’re Catholics. Louie welcomes us. Perhaps you should too. Mr. V. has not marginalized us, as you appear to want to do. Just extended debate & argumentation he wishes to be in the Forum. We abide by the request of the owner of this site. Consider that.
You have proof that Fr. Rodriguez teaches from the 1992 CCC.
The sedevacantists who comment regularly on this blog are working under the illusion that they can trash whole sections of the Catholic Church unchallenged – under the guise of free and frank comment. That ends up in long, very long, screeds of sedevacantist propaganda that is immediately seconded with lots of high-fives by the usual suspects – this goes on and on…. we are supposed to remain silent in the face of this onslaught and ‘take it to the Forum.’
There is something insidious about this kind of talk:
“We’re Catholics. Louie welcomes us. Perhaps you should too. Mr. V. has not marginalized us, as you appear to want to do. Just extended debate & argumentation he wishes to be in the Forum. We abide by the request of the owner of this site. Consider that.”
So Uncle Louie says it’s ok for you to make outrageous sedevacantist statements as fact, backed up with more suspect fact and the rest of us are supposed to remain silent? No.
Consider this from your quote above:
1) We areCatholics? Is Father Rodriguez not a Catholic?
2) Louie welcomes you. But it has become apparent that there are many who used to comment here have been very quiet since sedevacantism has run riot through the com-box. That’s Louie’s business but it cannot be left to stand as the last word – again and again.
I am ‘marginalizing’ you? This is a very old dodge! Straw man, and red-herring. The best offence is a good defence. We are now supposed to get into a tussle over whether I’m marginalizing you? No
Extended debate and argumentation relegated to the Forum? Yes, very clever here too. Sedevacantists are free to comment as are we all. However, the sede comment consists of blasting everything “Catholic” that doesn’t meet the very strict sede criteria. And the linking to other sede sites, videos and books for confirmation. Then when someone like me tries to counter the foolishness I’m told to take it to the Forum.
Louie runs his blog quite well without my help – but as a Catholic who loves her Church, in spite of all the sin and evil I see, I have to speak up. Sedevacantists have jumped out of the barque of Peter – what did St. Peter say to Our Lord in another context: “To Whom Shall We Go?”
Our SV brothers are misguided and misinformed. Louie doesn’t agree with them but has stated he allows them here out of a sense of sympathy and charity. I agree with him but must state it is a form of “penance” at times to read their less than charitable rants. The SV’s have boxed in themselves.
They clearly and unilaterally suspend their intellect and reasoning by ignoring volumes that have been written on why and how a Pope is elected and subsequently must be removed. Namely, both must be done formally by the Church.
SV’s Get over it. It’s easy to say but the Truth should always easy to say. (That’s why we come to this blog) If not then the SV’s are using the selective “pick & choose” heresy of ‘Private Judgement” on the matter. Seems to me a priest named Luther went the same way with disastrous results.
We understand the frustration of the SV’s and sympathize with them but using “feelings and personal opinion” to justify their position is untenable and defies common sense. It’s the same false reasoning and no different than those they accuse of being illegitimate. It’s their opinion…Nothing else.
I’m not sure if you’re asking a question here. In case you are, in this video & in numerous other places, Fr. Rodriguez teaches directly from the CCC 1992–
Sadly, Father also quotes Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, popular guest on the topic of “same-sex attraction” on the ever popular Catholic Answers Live & who should need no further introduction to the trad.
It would be good to engage with you on the position-but in order for that to happen, it’s necessary for each of us to actually know the sedevacantist position. I hope you’ll take time to do that * if only to effectively refute it* if you will.
There are lots of sources for one to get info today, some already presented here to other commenters who like to talk with us. Anyway, this is as good a place to start as any:
Many commenters here have said that they enjoy interaction with sedevacantists, ask questions & the discussion is ongoing i.e.– vibrant discussion, as you know, has taken place here from those who welcome it. In fact, there are those who’ve stated here in the past that they actually regularly visit this site because the sedevacantist Catholic presence adds interest, despite anyone who complains otherwise.
The sedevacantist presence here actually draws thousands of readers & many actually look forward to reading us here & interacting with us – your constant complaining notwithstanding. We do get it that you don’t enjoy such interaction, Barbara.
Is this what you mean by our learning what the sedevacantis position is?
Quote from “Bishop” Sanborn in the link you put up: “The sedevacantist position rests on principles which are unassailable, namely (1) that it is impossible that a true Roman Pontiff together with a true Catholic episcopate promulgate to the whole Church false doctrines, evil disciplines and false liturgical practices, and (2) that it is impossible that a public heretic be a pope. These principles come directly from the Church’s teaching, as well as the unanimous consent of popes and theologians. There is no argument about these principles. Indeed, one could not deny them without falling into serious error or even heresy.”
So “Bishop” Sanborn states categorically that there is no argument about these principles – if one attempts to argue one is branded a heretic…yeah, that just about says it all.
From what I have observed here and elsewhere there is no real discussion. It’s your way or the highway. What good is it to keep banging the drum?
What pushed me over the top into disappointment with the sedevacantist point of view here was the criticism of Father Rodriguez. As I’ve said before there is no one who will ever meet your very narrow criteria for Catholicity if Father Rodriguez is not good enough for you.
John6, wash your mouth out. I apologise on your behalf to de Maria.
If you have a problem with people questioning the Catholicity of Novus Ordo priests take it up with Pius XII and the Council of Trent. In fact, take it up with Christ.
Barbara. The sedevacantists ‘work’ under no illusions. There is nothing ‘insidious’ about the Truths out there and in the open of Holy Mother Church repeated, that’s all sedevacantists are doing, is repeating them on Mr Verricchio’s site, which he stated – not so long ag – ‘is your space as much as mine’ (‘Scuse if I’m paraphrasing)’ But I will take Mr Verrecchio at his word.
Not so long ago Bergoglio called folks reiterating the Truths of Holy Mother Church ‘parrots’. I’m happy to be a parrot of truth.
Barbara. The ‘criticism’ of Rodriguez is absolutely necessary. Not of the man as an man, but the man as a “Catholic” priest. Catholicity is not optional as those who reject the Catholic Truths presented under the not-self-named-title of ‘sedevacantist’.
Either the Church teachings back to year dot, Trent (which is where the name ‘tridentine’ comes from…), and ending with Pius XII were as reprehensible to you as ‘sedevacantists’, or..not?
PS. that should be ‘those who don’t reject Catholic Truths presented under the not-self-named-title of ‘sedevacantist’, understand and accept (lest folks take a typo as Christ’s judgement, which, these days, wouldn’t surprise me, given the superstition surrounding the ‘Catholicity’ of the Novus Ordo.)
I get your adour, Barbara, ’cause I am not luke-warm either. But lending that adour to Truth is all that matters.
PPS. We talk about Rodriuez, about whom we know he probably had the full monty N.O. ordination. Yet even when it comes to SSPX priests:
“41. They, therefore, walk in the path of dangerous error who believe that they can accept Christ as the Head of the Church, while not adhering loyally to His Vicar on earth. They have taken away the visible head, broken the visible bonds of unity and left the Mystical Body of the Redeemer so obscured and so maimed, that those who are seeking the haven of eternal salvation can neither see it nor find it.” Mystici corporis Christi.
You are unique in your placing His Excellency Bp. Sanborn’s name in quotation marks. Not even the most vehement haters of sedevacantists would ever even think to do that. Bp. Sanborn needs no defense from anyone in the recognition of the fact that he is a Bishop of the Roman Catholic Church. John Vennari knows that. Michael Matt knows that. Bp. Fellay knows that, as does Bp. Tissier de Mallerais, as do all of the SSPX-many of whom interact often with Bp. Sanborn & other sedevacantists. BTW quite a few SSPX priests are sedevacantists themselves. The fact that you’d dare to do something which even those with whom you agree would never dare to do is something you might want to think about.
Honest speech does not seek secret places.
Today’s the Feast of St. Jerome ! How appropo of you!
The Catholic loves his Church in spite of the failings and shortcomings which attach to her earthly existence. “Such as she is, she is to him of the Holiness, Justice, and Goodness of God. The Catholic does not look for an ideal Church, a heavenly Jerusalem on earth. What though his Mother is covered with dust from the long journey; what though her gait is at times slow and weary, and her brow marked with the lines of care and sorrow, she is his mother none the less. In her heart there leaps up the old flame of love. Out of her eyes shines the old faith. From her hands stream forth the old blessings unceasingly.”
Sedevacantism cannot be justified, no matter what. It is contrary to the faith, contrary to its Tradition, contrary to the teachings of numerous saints and highly acclaimed theologians, among them St. Thomas Aquinas.
Stop arguing……lest we’ll perish!
….from restless soldier of Christ, who in spite of the scandals, remembers that he has to save his soul (or else) trusts God, he says……..The V2 popes are still popes even though much of their teaching is doctrinally rotten and therefore non-acceptable. As bad as they are, their consecrations are valid – or can be valid, even if not in every case, depending on the intentions, matter, form of the sacrament of Orders, etc. These are the simple truths that God expects us to accept, ignoring all the rest that can only be resolved by theologians and future Church councils….
HOW can so many be blind by such CLARITY?
“As Thou Father, in Me, and I in Thee; that they also may be one in Us” (Jn. 17-21), was the prayer of Jesus for us.
To ‘keep unity in the bond of peace’, we should be persuaded that all that disturbs, weakens, or worse still, destroys fraternal union, DOES NOT PLEASE GOD! AMEN!
It does not please Him even if done under the pretext of zeal. Very often the cause of divison among good people is excessive self-assertion….pride! This individualism is the enemy of UNION, it is a hindrance to good works as well as to spiritual progress. (Divine Intimacy, by Fr. Gabriel of St. Mary Magdalen).
….a prayer…..”Where charity and love are, You are there also, O Lord! Your love, O Christ, has united us in one body and one heart; grant, then, that we may love one another with a sincere heart. Keep far from us all quarrels and contentions; grant that our hearts may be always united in You, and do you dwell always in our midst.” (The Liturgy).
In this life we walk toward God, not by division, but by fraternal Christian unity……the purer is our faith, the more it enables us to accomplish God’s Will ……not our miserable will!, in spite of ourselves…….in spite of ALL obstacles! GOD IS IN CONTROL…..BE STILL! GOD IS LOVE! And who are his miserable creatures?
Stop being a spectacle, a scandal, to God and His Church, to the joy of the enemy, who is clapping! Let us be true children of God and true children of ‘Sancta Mater Ecclesia’!……Let us be loyal to God and His Church! The gates of Hell have NOT prevailed against the Holy Church……regardless of what so many confused and proud in their blindness proclaim!
Let us pray for the scandalized, for they despair (which is a sin against the Holy Ghost)…..that the scales will fall off!
Viva Cristo Rey!
The position of the sedeoccupantist is that somehow Holy Mother Church is defectible & also that a pontiff who gives stones to the faithful can possess the Authority of Jesus Christ & have the protection of the Holy Ghost. This is contrary to the very teaching of Holy Mother Church Herself. Thus, we here have contradiction.
The position of the sedevacantist holds to what Holy Mother Church Herself has always taught, that Holy Mother Church is indefectible & that a pontiff who possesses the Authority of Jesus Christ is protected by the Holy Ghost from giving the faithful stones. Thus, we here have zero contradiction.
In the sedeoccupantist position, you end up with contradiction. In the sedevacantist position, you end up with perhaps some mystery, but zero contradiciton. The perennial Teaching of Holy Mother Church is at the heart of the sedevacantist stance.
On Resistance & Indefectibility
Yes, we get it. I’m the bad guy because I think of sedevacantists as a sect.
The devil knows how to divide us doesn’t he? I’m guilty of the same distraction as you are Maria. So I, here and now, will ignore the baiting put out with every sedevacantist comment and get on with the more important work: staying in the barque, no matter how rough the waters, and speaking not my truth but the truth the Catholic Church as been teaching for 2000 years.
I will make a concerted effort to be more charitable and that will mean not responding when I have nothing to say other than pointing out the beam in the eye of another.
Here’s a quote from a post on OnePeterFive today that I found helpful, and which points out my failings well:
“But even now, the forces which have aligned themselves against the surge of heresy now roaring up like a geyser from within the Church are themselves being manipulated. I have seen in recent weeks a growing spirit of division among those who should be united under Christ’s banner. Like tendrils of smoke, the enemy sows doubt and discord, delicately enough that we do not notice. We distract ourselves with arguments that do not pertain to the evil before us. We find that the faults of others with whom we are aligned have become sufficiently exaggerated that we are agitated. And some of our fellows, with whom we should be standing against the coming charge, have even turned and set upon the members of our ranks.
“I have become convinced that these sorts of events, which I see growing in frequency, are in fact the fruit of a campaign of spiritual warfare — intentional distractions and provocations — designed to blunt our effectiveness, to dull our awareness, and to drain our energy. Beware the Divider, already in our midst, who seduces us into thinking that our cause is more just, our judgments more correct, our methods more praiseworthy. Look for the signs of this deception in your own life during these troubled times. Be on guard against the conflict and bitterness and gossip and futile arguments and judgments made on those who agree with you on the important things – judgments that they are not worthy enough, not Catholic enough, not committed enough to the cause. Root them out. Pray more. Plead with God for wisdom and guidance. Do not do work in the service of the cause without first making supplication that the Holy Spirit work through you, committing all things to Our Lord through prayer.”
FromPoland, thank you for this excellent comment. It does my heart good to see my faults laid out so clearly, and when I receive this grace I must respond.
Others (see my post above) have pointed out the folly of sniping at each other when our hands must be upon the pumps – the barque is awash. Jesus appears to be sleeping still.
How right the statement that anger and agitation with words that do not reflect truth can be (are) prideful and egotistic.
God is good in that He sends words like those in your comment to teach us, to keep us on the narrow way. Thank you. Thank you.
Dear Fr. Rodriguez,
I have met you on the pilgrimage to Our Lady of Good Success in Quito, Ecuador (January 2015). What a joy I felt then, and still do now, to be so privileged to have met such a holy servant of God. I say that in humility, not as a flattery, dear Father.
I have attended your Mass, and after the Mass, God granted me the privilege of receiving a blessing from you…..
That memorable morning of the Candle Mass, and the procession with the Miraculous Statue of Our Lady of Good Success, was of such holy magnitude……..never to be forgotten……there was three priests only……Fr. Rodriguez, a priest of Fraternity of Saint Peter, and a priest of the Society of Saint Pius X……..the flowers of our Lady (no bishop of Quito, nor any other priests).
Dear Father, I was right behind you with so many other people, pushing one another……all wanting to touch the ‘hem’ of your cape…..by His grace, a sinner that I am, I did touch the hem of your garment……with tears in my eyes, I begged God for Mercy!
Without the priesthood we would be deprived of the Holy Eucharist; we would never have the consolation of hearing, in the name of God, ‘Thy sins are forgiven thee’……If there were no Church, I dare not to think about the abyss, the misery, our children would be abandoned to evil. In God’s Mercy, He has left us His Holy Church……a holy hope for our salvation and sanctification. As Christians we should be very grateful for the gift of the priesthood, our sincere gratitude ought to be to Jesus Christ who instituted it, and then to remnant holy priests who perform its SUBLIME DUTIES……such work of God is priceless……DEO GRATIAS!
God willing, I will come to the pilgrimage in the Year of Mercy, in company of a holy priest.
O Lord, give to Your Church many holy priests!
Our Lady of Good Success, ora pro nobis!
In Cristo et Maria,
There’s no charity, in allowing ‘error’ to reign in your combox. Souls are at stake, including those who tolerate and those who spread it! Thru somebody’s fault, it was not nipped in the ‘bud’ from the very beginning. This so-called liberty to say what I please, and what my narrow mind believes……can only come from the ‘devil’.
Let us be reminded that, we ought work out our salvation in fear and trembling……to be presemptuous of ones salvation is like playing ‘russian rullete’……one can easily become a prey, and fall.
Let us beware, and discern before we spread a diabolic propaganda.
Viva Cristo Rey!
This comment is wonderful. Thank you for sharing your experiences in Quito. When I, too, listen to Father Rodriguez I get the feeling he is a priest for the present, and for our future.
Can we have enough of the Sedevacantists criticizing everything to death? You don’t see SSPX, ICK, Indult and others bashing holy priests like Fr. Micheal and constantly pushing their position. Stop trying to force the Sede position all the time. Yes you are Catholics and welcome here but how about extending some leeway in your position (like Louie does with allowing you to post here) and just comment without the constant Sede push?
I love Sedes…love the SSPX…love the FSSP, ICK, Undult etc. As the Remnant Newspaper has pointed out (Louie too) it’s imperative we all come together in this fight. And let’s leave the hashing out of the details to the proper authorities in God’s time, yes?
Wonderful idea, Louie:+) I’m too broke to attend but can dream of it one day:+) Enjoy the time spent with such a holy priest as Fr. Michael…and the food too:+)
Father Rodriguez, reminds me of St. John Marie Vianney (Cure of Ars)……the simplicity and purity of his heart is a gift given by God to His beloved…….the remnant. But make no mistake, he is also a fearless, roaring lion, when it comes to teach, protect, and defend what was passed on to him from Him.
Lord grant us many holy, fearless priests! who understand that where there is no hatred of heresy there is no holiness (Fr. Faber).
If I may add; ‘where there is no holiness, there’s no ‘fear of God!’
Viva Cristo Rey!
This is the truth.
Father Faber is also a terrific resource, and all his books are wonderful. This quote about heresy is interesting. He says we must HATE heresy. Do we? I mean hate it? We moan and groan but we have been taught for so long that to ‘hate’ is bad, bad, bad, nay, uncharitable.
But he’s right. If God could hate (which he can’t) He would hate heresy. But we can, and should hate this evil taking over our Church. Heresy goes directly against God and His Truth. That is most serious.
As Catholics we should lament and hate, the abuse and the denial of Christ’s divinity, or that of the divine origin of His holy Church, or the Queenship of the Blessed Virgin Mary, or the Primacy of Peter or the Real Presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist, or for that matter of any other tenet of Catholic belief, such as social reign of Christ the King………the rights of God, which all men are obliged to acknowledge and uphold…….this is no mere human opinion or theory, but Heaven’s Divine Plan.
Are we not members of the Church Militant….. taking a stand for Christ? As a matter of fact, not only simply Catholic, but Protestant, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, agnostic, atheist……none can remain neutral or indifferent towards their common Creator and Redeemer…..at the end, he who is not for Christ is against Him…..plain and simple.
We love the sinner, we hate the sin…..
Viva Cristo Rey!
The Church Militant is comprised only of those who belong to Christ = those who have no concord with belial. The Church Militant in these days is truly a remnant. And the self-titled church militant in communion with the heresiarchs have no part of the Church Militant. Just like the self-titled catholic church under the heresiarchs have no part of the Catholic Church. Just like the self-titled remnant are in communion with the heresiarchs are no part of the Remnant.
Actually, the SSPX, Novus Ordo ‘traditionalists’ (the misappropriately named ‘remnant newspaper’), Novus Ordo henchmen (CMTV, the ardent FSSP VII loyalists), neo-cons etc. spend much of their day either criticizing their Novus Ordo anti-pope, or criticizing the heresiarchs’ Novus Ordo anti-Cardinals and sundry other cassock-wearing laymen; or tearing each other to shreds – and usually making a living off of it. The only thing all of those above agree upon is that ‘wolves are shepherds’; and that sedevacantists, who will never cease repeating Church teaching that wolves are never shepherds, are to be silenced.
PS. Only the sedevacantist upholds the dogma of the universal spiritual goodness of the Bride of Christ. Only the sedevacantist upholds the truth of the protection of the Holy Ghost.
All other self-professed Catholics proclaim that there is no necessary protection upon Christ’s Vicar from spreading evil universally, or ‘authoritatively’ leading souls to hell – neither of which ‘teachings’ are from Christ.
As to your objection to, as you put it, “Sedevacantists criticizing everything to death?”– consider the following-
If you’ve been around here long enough, you will note that I’ve defended anyone-be they group or individual-who is treated unfairly or more inportantly-wrongly defined in these pages.
For example, even though I don’t take the approach of the current day SSPX, notwithstanding the fact that I’ve spoken personally with the Archbishop decades ago with babes in arms, I’ve more than once & will still- defend when they or their position is wrongly presented.
That said, vis a vie the topic at hand- as far as I can tell, many here’d want to be notified when a priest is teaching anything that any diocesan non-trad priest, albeit somewhat conservative, would be teaching. On the other hand, such may be OK with many, including you. I’ve mentioned this particular matter long ago here in this combox.
Interestingly, that information was received entirely differently here a couple of years ago- including some stating they’d ask Father about it, at my suggestion, actually. IOW, the response was friendly.
There’s lots of indication that sedevacanists are being treated here in this combox with increasing animosity. To this, unfortunatley, I attribute the differing response between then & now.
It ought to be, IMHO, also pointed out that there are several sedevacantists who comment here who are afraid to so indentify-bc of this building animosity-such as at least one person saying they’ll leave if we stay-or begging Mr. V. to get rid of us, or attempting to suggest that among commenters here, there exists a certain kind of “seniority” if you will.
I think I can safely, at this point, say- that if a Shintoist, Hindu or Buddhist were to commen here-and yes “criticize” to the max-they’d be treated with fraternal charity-not so however, with fellow Catholics, which sedevacantists are.
I hope you & others will think about this.
de Maria. Plain, clear, Catholic voice!
Holy Mother Church isn’t sneaky or confusing, just straightforward. A shepherd is a shepherd, the Mass is the Mass. Meanwhile a wolf is a wolf and outside the Church, and a perverted worship service is a perverted worship service and therefore lacks the non-negotiable Catholicity (Catholicity must include, legitimacy, validity and authenticity). This is what the Bride of Christ, for the sake of our souls, teaches.
While the Novus Ordite doing a ‘finger-in-the-socket’ impression over the sedevacantist reiterating Holy Mother Church is pretty standard – not you specifically MMC, ’cause you sound pretty reasonable, but generally), blokes like this:
are overlooked as Novus Ordo par for the course.
In Italy they are interpreting Vatican Council II like the secular media.
No denial from Phillip Pullela and Nicole Winfield
Reuters Religion Editor Tom Henegan also interprets Vatican Council II with the Baltimore Catechism error
Before you come to Italy could you discuss Vatican Council II with reference to these points ? Church Militant TV is making the same error as the Baltimore Catechism.
de Maria, I have communicated with Fr. Rodriguez personally over the years and attended the Quito, Ecuador pilgrimage with him last January. During that conference, Father Rodriguez strongly recommended the My Catholic Faith (1954) catechism. Please beware of assumptions based on google or youtube searches.
What is of Catholic matter ( Rodriguez must know this ) is Catholicity. Novelty, adulteration, antichrist-elements (heresiarchal aims and names etc) proclaimed through the Blood of Christ is about as non-Catholic as you can get. Kyrie eleison.