Most regular readers of these pages have long been convinced that Catholic neo-conservatism is a religious pathology that presents as spiritual blindness; i.e., an inability to see that which is in plain sight, inevitably leading to a denial of objective reality.
Even so, it is useful (if not amusing) to occasionally consider additional evidence attesting to this fact as it becomes available.
With this in mind, today we are going to take a look at the latest musings of George Weigel as posted on the First Things blog under the title:
The Catholic Church doesn’t do “paradigm shifts”
Weigel defines the term under discussion as follows:
A “paradigm shift” signals a dramatic, sudden, and unexpected break in human understanding—and thus something of a new beginning.
He then asks rhetorically, “So are there ‘paradigm shifts’ in the Church?”
The obvious answer to this question is, of course, no.
Weigel goes on to explain that the “evolution of the Church’s understanding” of divine revelation is not to be confused as a “paradigm shift.” He writes:
And as Blessed John Henry Newman taught us, authentic doctrinal development is organic and in continuity with “the faith once . . . delivered to the saints” (Jude 1:3). The Catholic Church doesn’t do rupture: that was tried 500 years ago, with catastrophic results for Christian unity and the cause of Christ.
OK: Anything that meets the definition of “paradigm shift” provided simply isn’t Catholic; it is more akin to a revolution, and failure to recognize it as such can only lead to catastrophe.
Where Weigel and I (and clear thinking Catholics everywhere) part company is in his disagreement with Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Secretary of State of the Holy See, who, he tells us, “recently described Amoris Laetitia, Pope Francis’s apostolic exhortation on marriage and the family, as a ‘paradigm shift.’”
In Weigel’s view:
But whatever he [Parolin] may have intended, the cardinal cannot have meant that Amoris Laetitia is a “paradigm shift” in the sense of a radical break with previous Catholic understandings. For the Catholic Church doesn’t do “paradigm shifts” in that sense of the term…
Forget Cardinal Parolin’s intent. The better question concerns what Amoris Laetitia actually is; is it a “radical break with previous Catholic understandings” or not?
This question can be asked another way:
Before Amoris Laetitia, is there even one shred of evidence to suggest that the Church understands that God occasionally asks us to persist in mortal sin because the Divine Law is, at times, impossible for us to keep?
Weigel himself would answer no.
Even so, he insists that Amoris Laetitia, the text of which plainly expresses precisely this “understanding,” does not represent a “radical break,” and if you think that’s a perfect example of neo-conservative blindness, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!
He went on to claim recourse for his denial of objective reality to the author of Amoris Laeitita:
… and the Pope himself has insisted that Amoris Laetitia does not propose a rupture with the Church’s settled doctrines on the indissolubility of marriage and worthiness to receive Holy Communion.
In spite of his severe disorientation, even Weigel cannot fail to acknowledge that there is a major problem in the Church with respect to Amoris Laetitia; one that does indeed fit the definition of “paradigm shift.”
The pastoral implementation of Amoris Laetitia mandated in Malta, Germany, and San Diego is quite different than what has been mandated in Poland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Portsmouth, England, and Edmonton, Alberta. Because of that, the Catholic Church is beginning to resemble the Anglican Communion (itself the product of a traumatic “paradigm shift” that cost John Fisher and Thomas More their heads).
One wonders, did Weigel fail to mention Buenos Aires deliberately, or is he so entirely disoriented that it genuinely did not occur to him to reference the only “pastoral implementation” guidelines that can boast of inclusion in the Acta Apostolicae Sedis, and this thanks to Francis?
In conclusion, Weigel writes:
Something is broken in Catholicism today and it isn’t going to be healed by appeals to paradigm shifts. In the first Christian centuries, bishops frankly confronted and, when necessary, fraternally corrected each other.
Don’t be confused; Weigel isn’t suggesting that Cardinal Burke should get on with the “formal act of correction” of Francis that he promised well over a year ago. He is simply suggesting that the bishops of Poland should somehow correct the bishops of Malta, for example.
As for Francis, Weigel has absolved him of any all responsibility in this matter; as if the popes of the first centuries sat mute while controversies raged around them. And this from what many consider to be one of the brightest conservative minds of our day.
The bottom line here is simple:
Anyone who eats, sleeps, and breathes the Second Vatican Council, like George Weigel most certainly does, is ill-equipped to recognize a “paradigm shift” from that which the Church has always understood; even when it is staring him squarely in the face.
The reason is simple; his very concept of what it means to be Catholic is firmly rooted in the most dramatic, sudden, and unexpected break from tradition that the Church has ever experienced.
This is the same reason why the protestations of Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider, et al. will ultimately amount to nothing in the face of the Bergoglian menace; all concerned have, even if unwittingly, taken leave of the Barque of St. Peter and are happily sailing away from the one true Church aboard the Conciliar Catamaran with Francis as their Captain.
Thank you for this article. I’m just curious if others who believe Francis is a Great Destroyer of the Catholic Church, have been accused by others, including so called “loved ones” of “abandoning the Church” for this awareness and belief. We are surrounded (as converts) by this VII “entrenched” mentality and mindset, that is absolutely incapable, by design of the post VII Church, of even recognizing that anything is wrong. They are stubbornly and arrogantly unwilling to open their eyes and ears, and the result is by choice lemmings over the cliff…and yet we are labeled as “abandoning the Church”. Clearly it is the Remnant Church that Christ will not abandon, and that will prevail against the gates of hell.
Deluded. Simply deluded. I guess that frog boiled a long time ago.
atsa4you, yep lots of friends and family in that sad row boat. I frankly admit that yes I have indeed abandoned “that church”. I attend a diocesan TLM for the time being–that is the most I can do–I would prefer SSPX but they are not here…being a moderate I try to take the middle path as best as can be done.
I’ve got more Vatican II’s neo-cons coming to visit me soon….pray for me—patience–for I was once just like them. There is one who still acts like it’s seditious calumny to even suggest the merest taint in Francis. We’re going to have in interesting visit.
“The reason is simple; his very concept of what it means to be Catholic is firmly rooted in the most dramatic, sudden, and unexpected break from tradition that the Church has ever experienced.”
Of course ! Because he is a shining star representative of Opus Dei.
Semper Fidelis, be patient with your friends, and recognize George Weigel’s article as the good news that it is. God gives people different temperaments and those with Weigel’s type of temperament are going to have the hardest time accepting that there are TWO things going on in the Church right now. The first thing I had not really aware of because — and I rarely get to say this anymore — I am a tad too young: something went very wrong at Vatican II. (What I mean when I write that I am too young is that I never experienced the pre-Vatican II Church, so I never knew what I had missed.) Oh, I’ve always thought it was obnoxious how marginalized Traditionalists are, and I thought that the 70s felt banner Masses were in appalling taste. However, until a couple of years ago, it never occurred to me that perhaps Vatican II was not what God had wanted for the Church. The second thing going on, I DID recognize soon after Francis became Pope: something is wrong with Pope Francis himself. In the beginning, I thought he was just a loser, but I soon realized that Pope Francis detests Catholicism and intends to destroy the Church. For many people, it is nearly impossible to conceive that anyone – never mind a priest – could be so evil. My own father, a devout Catholic who is, compared to me, a saint, cannot bear to hear any criticism of Pope Francis. It actually pains him to hear it. On account of this, he has tuned out the last four years of objective reporting about Pope Francis. He refuses to read anything that doesn’t assert Francis is a kindly man who loves the Church. It’s nuts. Since my father goes to Mass every Sunday, as well as a couple times during the week, and since he’s in his late seventies, I have decided not to argue with him about this. If God wants him to see things more clearly, He will lead him that way.
Back to George Weigel. Again, I think his column is good news. So what if Weigel cannot yet admit anything is wrong with Pope Francis himself? The important change has happened: Weigel is acknowledging that something is rotten in Denmark. I suspect Weigel does in fact know where the blame lies, but cannot admit that yet. That’s alright. What we need is for more people like Weigel to raise the alarms that SOMETHING is wrong. For now, I’ll take it.
Good luck my friend, we’ll pray for you. My wife’s sister came for a visit on Monday, and she held her Rosary in her trembling hands as she spoke with my wife…wow. She has accused us of abandoning the church for such matters as our insistence of reverence for the Eucharist by only receiving what we hope is Consecrated Eucharist in the mouth, by a Priest, while kneeling, while she drives around with a host banging around in her purse on her way to distribute it to homebound. Don’t we look awful for objecting to that? All we can say and pray is “Come Lord Jesus” Talk about Schism on all levels
Wow. Sorry your wife had to listen to that. It’s one thing for people to engage in spirited debate; it’s another for people to hurl invective. I decided last year that I would not argue with people who choose not to discuss Pope Francis at all; that is their right. If people want to debate him civilly, I’m game. However, there is a third type of person I will not discuss anything with: the type who begins by defending the Pope with generalities; who then, when you cite specific example of things he has done that appall you, ignores those examples and attacks YOU. (I’m not saying your sister-in-law does this.) Someone on FB criticized the Pope’s critics as “people who make things up about him, such as how he is a closet Lutheran.” I replied, “Well, Pope Francis did install a statue of Martin Luther in the Vatican and issue a stamp of a famous painting of the Crucifixion that replaced the Blessed Mother and John the Baptist with Martin Luther and Philip Melanchthon”, supplying the link to the legit news story about it. The response ignored my facts and link and took another swipe at critics of the Pope and how we “lie about him”. OK, I blocked him on Facebook. To paraphrase Jack Nicholson’s character in the movie A Few Good Men: “He can’t handle the truth!”
It might be helpful for you to listen to this recent video from Dr. Kelly Bowring, a well respected Catholic Theologian in good standing:
“For the Catholic Church doesn’t do “paradigm shifts” in that sense of the term…”
You are correct Mr Weigel. Except your church, the Novus Ordo church, DOES do paradigm shifts and has been doing this since Vatican II.
I’ve noticed that shameless virtue-signaling like that from your sister-in-law is quite common among the mentally disturbed and possibly possessed. Keep that woman out of your house.
George Weigel is a typically impotent CatholiCuck. Like all cuckservatives (e.g., Trey Gowdy), CatholCucks talk a good game. But that’s it. Place no hope in Weigel or in any other CatholiCuck (or indeed in any cuckservative, such as Paul Ryan or Glenn Beck). Their burning lust for mainstream respectability locks them onto a treadmill of total ineffectuality.
“Since my father goes to Mass every Sunday, as well as a couple times during the week, and since he’s in his late seventies, I have decided not to argue with him about this.”
These elderly folks are the ones who SHOULD see the problem. But they’ve been programmed for 50+ years now.
Thats true Utahagan and yes I’m more patient apart from the blogosphere. One very good friend has never broached the Francis subject and neither have I, only obliquely. He is a former Legionaries of Christ too and used to defend Marciel, I only delicately said that I agreed with Benedict’s assessment. A couple years later he finally accepted the truth and was crushed. It will probably be the same thing with Bergolio so I just bide my time.
What is the point of this blog? You reject the Pope as Pope. You seem to have +/- 20 people who tear each other apart in the comments section but more or less agree with you and, presumably, send you $. You believe that 99% of the visible Catholic Church is apostate. Sounds like y’all are another religion entirely.
I have to admit, that is what perplexes me, that people who lived before V2 often seem the most unaware. It would have been traumatic to have had to go through V2 though.
Blundurbuss, just out of curiosity, how did you end up coming across this site? It seems like the content here is off your beaten path…..
I am not sure if you had a chance, but reading previous postings can give you some helpful context.
Yes Blunderbluss, that is the point of these blogs. The trads (for good or bad) do profess a different religion than the Novus Ordo V2 religion. There is no continuity between what was and what is. If you are a loyal subject to Francis and JP2 and Benedict and practice their religion then you are not practicing the religion that your forefathers practiced. It is a different religion, you couldn’t have said it better.
Yes, Blunderbus, while we all remain vulnerable to sin…I too have found this other religion that you mention, thanks be to God. It is called Catholicism and it is an absolutely beautiful treasure. All the persecution I have endured since I have found it, couldn’t drag me away. Catholicism is not for the faint of heart. It is also dependent upon a strong persevering devotion to Our Lady. She is the one who will carry us through.
Happy Feast of the Purification! I am so loving this religion!
@VRasz I’m a 33rd degree Mason globalist trying to infiltrate the remnant of the Catholc Church.
Just kidding. Only 31st degree.
Being serious, though, it seems like what y’all are doing is leaving a room, standing in the street, and saying that it’s everyone else in the room who left and that you took the room with you and are now the only one in the room. I’m not sure that defining your own reality like that is rational. You have no priests, no sacraments, nothing. That’s not a religion by the Catholic or any other definition. I think you’re coming from a good place and don’t think you’ll go to hell for your beliefs, but I do think you are terribly misguided. It’s a free country and you can believe whatever you want, but I do think you damage other people’s faith when you try to push them toward leaving the Catholic Church. At a minimum, you’re denying them the graces of the sacraments (although I’m sure you’d argue that they’re not real sacraments).
The Mystery of Iniquity is a little hard to fathom, is it not?
Can you blame us for trying? Everyone here despite our little tiffs is seeking the truth and acting in good conscience. We all want to know how and why the Church was infiltrated and subverted by an occupying force hell bent on our spiritual destruction. We reject your vapid, dying, morally bankrupt, Church of Nice. If you can’t have the foggiest idea why, then perhaps you can go back to the cult of Mark Shea.
1700 years ago Blunder, you’d be the smug Arian.
“May God console you! …What saddens you …is the fact that others have occupied the churches by violence, while during this time you are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises─but you have the apostolic Faith. They can occupy our churches, but they are outside the true Faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the Faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the Faith? The true Faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in this struggle-the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the Faith?
True, the premises are good when the apostolic Faith is preached there; they are holy if everything takes place there in a holy way …You are the ones who are happy: you who remain within the church by your faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the Faith which has come down to you from apostolic Tradition. And if an execrable jealousy has tried to shake it on a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis.
No one, ever, will prevail against your faith, beloved brothers. And we believe that God will give us our churches back some day.”
Saint Athanatius…..he defined reality because he was one of only a handful of Catholic Bishops left while 99% of others fell or compromised with heresy. He is the hero, the “institutional Church” of his day was the villian. How are we any different in this age of rank apostasy?
Let’s not be too hard on this Blunderbuss. As a typical CatholiCuck, he’s burning with lust for mainstream respectability. If this means having to shill for the perfidious likes of the Judas Council project and its supreme apotheosis, Jorge Bergoglio, then so be it. As long as he continues to be invited to the right cocktail parties, it’s all good.
Blunderbuss has correctly identified the situation (which many trads still have not realized). The NO sect and the traddies form two differing religions. Most trads still can’t accept this and continue to seek mainstream NO recognition.
We’re well aware of your sedevacantist monomania. Evangelize elsewhere.
I see Alphonsus is still foaming at the mouth.
2Vermont, how dare you steal my lines? 😉
“it seems like what y’all are doing is leaving a room, standing in the street, and saying that it’s everyone else in the room who left and that you took the room with you and are now the only one in the room.”
Yeah…. that’s just exactly what was levelled at the Apostles 2000 years ago. Who did those 12 guys think they were? Challenging the majority who were Jews of the Old Covenant and the Greek and Roman Pagans. Didn’t they ever hear of democracy? Perhaps Blunderbuss can hop in his time machine and go back there and inform them. Maybe Blunderbuss can also give them some additional recommendations that the VII periti and Francis discovered and tell St. Peter and St. Paul to curb their language a bit and not be so judgemental and seek ecumenism and common ground. They’d obviously attract more followers that way! They might also receive Roman awards and honors and work together with the Jews and Romans to come up with common dialogue and doctrine. The Jesus guy was a little too much, which is why they killed Him. But Blunderbuss knows better, Blunderbuss comes from the future!
“I’m not sure that defining your own reality like that is rational. You have no priests, no sacraments, nothing. That’s not a religion by the Catholic or any other definition. I think you’re coming from a good place and don’t think you’ll go to hell for your beliefs, but I do think you are terribly misguided.”
Looked in the mirror lately Blunder? And who are you specifically addressing this to?
The Sedes? Or the rest of us who are putting up with the VII facade and still attend Masses in the Novus Ordo or Traditional Masses by those within or equally putting up with the VII paradigm?
Now I certainly don’t think you’re going to Hell, Blunder, because you’re obviously very confused and have been indoctrinated in falsehoods. But I must advise you Blunder that if you don’t open your eyes and check what is actually Catholic and what is not, then you are walking on a dangerous path, and that could lead you to Hell. So be very very careful.
“It’s a free country and you can believe whatever you want,”
BZZZTZTZTTTTTZTZ! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! Blunder!
The Catholic Church DOES NOT TEACH THAT YOU CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT! You DO NOT have a right to believe in FALSE RELIGIONS or HERESIES.
Blunder, NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER tell anyone that they are “free” to believe whatever they want. Otherwise you might as well tell them it’s okay for them to start worshipping Satan. That’s the major error of the false faith that you currently hold. The sooner you realize this, the better for you and others that you might misguide.
Therefore it is actually you Blunder who… “damage other people’s faith when you try to push them toward leaving the Catholic Church.”
There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church Blunder, and you yourself need to make sure you know the actual faith and not the counterfaith that disguises itself in shepherd’s clothing.
What people forget is that Vatican II and it’s subsequent novelties and errors coincided with today’s oldsters’ youth. I’m 70 now, but new church was developing when I was in my 20s and 30s. It was increasingly cool that you could “get away” with more and more and more and more as time went on. Just about anything was excusable with confession something that the church only “expected” during Easter time, if then. Somewhere along the line I found a Latin Mass. It all flooded back to me and I was awakened to the horrors of the new sect that had alienated itself from the true Church and Christ himself. I still occasionally went to NO as necessary, but it was even more obvious how hollow it was. I have attended only the TLM for years now. I love God with all my heart and thank him for showing me where the real Catholic Church still resided. Do not confuse the whited sepulchers for the Church of Our Lord. Do not confuse Jorge Bergoglio for the successor to Peter.
We need more people like you to weigh in about the atmosphere at the time of the Judas Council. Such witness testimony is very important.
Semper Fidelis, I suspect that people such as my father and you friend have more than an inkling about the crisis the Church is engulfed in. However, it is too painful for them to confront. So long as they are not the types I described in another post — i.e., actively defending Pope Francis and personally attacking his critics — I think the charitable thing to do is let them be. For all we know, they are praying fervently about the very things we are posting about here!
Y’all have exceeded my expectations for responses and provided a plethora of LOLs.”Smug Arian” and “cult of Mark Shea” are gold. (Side question – why do you guys hate a sincere, good guy like Shea so much?)
@Johno – sadly, I do not have a time machine. I get the whole Social Kingship of Christ theory, but back here in the real world, an Amercian theocracy would mean hat we bow down to Billy Graham or (gag) Joel Osteen. Be glad we have no established religion, however flawed that paradigm is, as Catholics are minority in the US of A. Once upon a time, we couldn’t own property here. I said you can – not should- believe whatever you want.
@AlphonsusJr – you said elsewhere “Blacks, browns, and white ethnomasichists of the avowedly liberal and the cuckservative variety must be reduced to a tiny fraction of the population.” That’s verbatim. I didn’t realize that Catholic Traditon called for genocide and ethnic cleansing. These days, the majority of the billion+ Catholics worldwide are actually black or brown. Google it.
That brings me to my final point. Y’all are beating up on the Church as it exists in Europe and North America, areas whose broader cultures are entering a period of agnosticism and atheism. But the Catholic Church is a global religion. Its future is black and brown people – future Saints. I think that y’all need to understand and accept this and return to the fold. Ignore bad Popes and their stupid ideas, sure. But if you’re going to define the Church by what you see happening in Europe and the USA and say that you’re right and over a billion others are wrong, then grow a pair, declare your own Pope, and leave. I hope you don’t, though I think many of you are already gone.
And I hope that the author of this blog recognizes that even if he’s only influencing the +/- 20 folks who comment here, he’s Pied Pipering them down a really bad path. Pretty sure you don’t get into heaven just by admonishing strangers on the internet, so perhaps you could encourage them to do some of the other works of mercy.
So much virtue-signaling, Blunderbuss. Feeling better about yourself? Because displaying your presumed occupation of the the moral high ground is what your words are really about. This is typically cuckservative. Pitiful CatholiCucks like Mark Shea do it all the time.
In any event, I’m delighted that you remembered my words (and verbatim to boot!). I stand behind them 100%. You failed to mention that they applied to European countries and their satellites, but that’s fine. As a cuck, you wear your complex of pathological altruism, suicidal xenophilia, and white ethnomasochist oikophobia as a badge of honor, and your omission of that context served to further burnish it. As endless waves of PacoJamal&Abdul continue to flood the lands of your ancestors and destroy everything they built, you’ll feel really good about yourself. Until they turn on you too. Then the true horror of it all will dawn on you at last as your sight dims….
Or are you of the (((perfidious tribe))), and thus hell bent on destroying Christendom once and for all, along with those divinely charged to propagate it? Speaking of the (((perfidious tribe))), their foaming hatred of Christendom and its divinely charged propagators (Europeans) is revealed here:
Take the Red Pill
Notice that you’re aligned with the (((perfidious))) likes of (((Noel Ignatiev))) and (((Barbara Spectre))). Despicable. No, I’m afraid you don’t occupy the moral high ground at all.
“Any inequality today is a horror. For the Catholic Church [the actual Catholic Church, not the post Second Vatican Council abomination represented by the nauseating Pope Francis], it’s not at all a horror. God has designed everything unequal, practically everything: the flowers, the animals, the plants, the mountains, the nations, the peoples, the races, the sexes, the individuals, everything in God’s creation is unequal. What God plans is a great variety, and an order in the variety, with some things higher and some things lower. And St. Paul says in the Epistle to the Romans, ‘Don’t start questioning God on why he put this lower and put that higher.’ It’s like a building, that stone is lower than that stone and that stone is higher…. Compare blacks with whites, broadly speaking, blacks will be superior in some things and whites will be superior in others. But generally speaking, the blacks are lower down on the wall and the whites are meant to be higher up on the wall. That’s just the way it is. That’s the reality. When the whites stopped doing what they should be doing, which is leading the blacks, then….”
-Bp. Richard Williamson (2008 lecture on The Sillon, No. 3 in the Stockholm Conferences 2008 audio series at the St. Marcel Initiative website)
Also see Bp. Williamson’s “Thoughts” of November 2005.
Also see Ch. 10, “The Myth of Equality,” of Fr. Wathen’s book entitled Who Shall Ascend?
After reading this, I can’t imagine why anyone criticizes Trads for stuff like, oh, I don’t know, white supremacist leanings and hatred of Jews?
@AlphonsusJr – I didn’t remember your statement, just googled your username and found that awful stuff. Are those actual Williamson quotes? If so, yikes. Perhaps you and he can find other writings that support your racial theories. There was an early- to mid-20th Germanic school of writers and politicians who would agree with y’all, as I recall. They wore uniforms and committed genocides and invaded countries until those awful, God-hating American heretics, Russian schismatics, and British apostates you so despise stopped them.
Again, I’ll go back to my original remark, which no one has answered. If this blog’s author and commenters have condemned Vatican II, all the subsequent Popes, un-Poped the current Pope, condemned every single member of the Catholic Church’s hierarchy, and are now moving to condemn laypeople like Weigel and nearly all of the other Catholics who don’t agree with them…aren’t y’all just leaving the Catholic Church and starting your own religion?
You’ll love this by +Williamson:
The Fundamental Opposition
Soak in those quotes at the end, and consider the sources. See, Blunderbuss, that’s actual unvarnished Catholicism. It’s thus shocking and utterly alien to you, because you’ve been processed by the Judas Council Revolution and know only a false Catholicism.
As the for the “white supremacist” and HIIIIITTTTTLLEEEERRRRR labelS, which are of course designed to shut down all thought and discussion and elicit Pavlovian cries of RAAAAACCCIIIISSSSTTTTT, they really don’t bother me except insofar as they’re false. I’m simply a race realist, not a RAAAAAACCCCIIIISSSSTTT.
There’s no hate here. Only a healthy, most healthy, love for my own. And keep in mind that I’m just as much of an Asian supremacist, an African supremacist, and a Mexican supremacist as I am a European supremacist. I believe Asians should reign supreme in Asia, Africans should reign supreme in Africa, Mexicans should reign supreme in Mexico, and Europeans should should reign supreme in the societies we’ve built. This is utterly normal and healthy, but seems most strange because of today’s diabolical inversion of all things. Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, but white countries for everyone? This is a prescription for white genocide. And indeed “diversity” is code for white genocide; for wherever “diversity” is pursued, the goal is precisely less white people.
You desperately need to read the following
An Open Letter to Cuckservatives
You need to read it 1,000 times. You must do so to have any chance of possibly cutting through your pitiful white ethnomasochist, suicidally xenophilic, traitorously oikophobic conditioning. Or are you indeed of the (((perfidious tribe)))? Or one of the invaders?
Blunder, please pay no attention to Alphonse. He is stuck in between two contradictory premises that he must maintain on a daily basis. But to answer your question about leaving the Catholic Church. No we are not afraid that we left the Catholic Church. We left the conciliar church of V2. Until you understand that the church which you perceive to be the Catholic Church is no longer Catholic, then you will think we have left. You do correctly observe that there is a split or schism between the trads at one end and the NO sect at the other end. The question you must ask is which side professes the Catholic faith and which side occupies the real estate. Folks like the charitable Alphonse Jr, are called “resisters”. They try to have it both ways out of personal convenience. But in the end they are left with the unenviable task of making round trad circles fit into modern square holes (ie hermenuetic of continuity). It can’t be done. This is why Al jr rages.
Blunderbuss, rabid sedevacantists like Tom don’t believe in the mystery of iniquity and thus need things to be perfectly cut and dry. They would have abandoned Jesus immediately upon learning of the real hellish Judas and the thrice-denying Peter.
Alas, monomaniacal sedevacantists are of quite weak constitution. You wouldn’t want them next to you in a foxhole, as they’d flee the battlefield. Though “life on earth is a warfare” (Job 7:1), foaming sedevacantists can’t cope with battlefields because they’re murky, blood-spattered arenas.
Pitiful. Just pitiful. Possibly even more pitiful than adherents of the Judas Council Revolution and its blasted Novus Ordo (dis)service, as shrieking sedevacantists know so much more.
@AdolphJR – Y’all can blame my public education for my limited vocabulary. Far as I know, the word for a person who talks about how people of other races than his own are inferior and how we need to “reduce the number” of “brown and black” folks is “racist”. Person who hates Jews is an anti-Semite. Maybe you know of some other, more accurate words? I also noticed you won’t type the word “Jew”…afraid they’ll send the chemtrails after ya? LOL
Seems like the Trad world is increasingly split between frightening AlphonsusJresque bigoted lunatics or blind regurgitation of Dimon brothers “everyone is a heretic” blather, right down to the terminology they use, like “Vatican 2 sect”. It makes me sad to see blogs encouraging this or even merely providing an echo chamber for these people, since there are others who come to them genuinely seeking to learn more about the Church’s traditions and are instead exposed to and swayed by this destructive rhetoric.
All this Pope Francis-denial and saying that the other billion-plus Catholics are in schism (the Church left me, I didn’t leave the Church!) is just as silly as #notmypresident. Trump was elected, Francis is the Pope, and really hoping otherwise and yelling about it on the internet doesn’t change reality. Channel your energies toward something constructive.
And these are examples of why I left the Trad world.
O Blunderbuss! How perfectly you’ve internalized the commands of your puppet-masters! So common. Sad.