At the General Audience earlier today, Francis continued to expound upon the Novus Ordo (let’s be clear – he isn’t offering catechesis on Holy Mass), this time with respect to what he dubbed “the central moment;” namely, the so-called “Eucharistic Prayer.”
The Mass, he said, “corresponds to what Jesus himself did, at the table with the Apostles at the Last Supper.”
This concept, which emphasizes meal as opposed to Cross, is one that the Protestants find most acceptable. Francis wasn’t done, however, as he went on to say of the Novus Ordo:
Jesus’ thanksgiving lives again in all our Eucharist, associating us [in Italian, associandoci] with his sacrifice of salvation.
I am not certain what the theological significance of “associating” is, but I am fairly certain that the heretics are good with it.
He continued:
And in this solemn prayer – the Eucharistic Prayer is solemn – the Church expresses what she does when she celebrates the Eucharist and the reason why she celebrates it, that is, to make communion with Christ truly present in the consecrated bread and wine.
First, I had to laugh at the repetition. The Eucharistic Prayer is solemn. No, really, it’s solemn!
One wonders if he is trying to convince us, or himself.
In any case, “to make communion truly present” is not the purpose, or the ends, of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
As has been our method in dissecting these wretched General Audiences, we now turn to the Ottaviani Intervention which tells us that they are as follows:
- Ultimate end. This is that of the Sacrifice of praise to the Most Holy Trinity according to the explicit declaration of Christ in the primary purpose of His very Incarnation: “Coming into the world he saith: sacrifice and oblation thou wouldst not but a body thou has fitted me” (Ps. XXXIX, 7-9 in Heb. X, 5).
In the Novus Ordo, the Intervention points out, “This end has disappeared from the Offertory.” [Emphasis in original]
- Ordinary end. This is the propitiatory Sacrifice. It too has been deviated from; for instead of putting the stress on the remission of sins of the living and the dead it lays emphasis on the nourishment and sanctification of the present.
At this, the Intervention sheds great light on the disordered priorities of the Novus Ordo when it states:
Christ certainly instituted the Sacrament of the Last Supper putting Himself in the state of Victim in order that we might be united to Him in this state, but this self-immolation precedes the eating of the Victim, and has an antecedent and full redemptive value (the application of the bloody immolation). This is borne out by the fact that the faithful present are not bound to communicate, sacramentally.
Get that?
The stress in the Novus Ordo has been deliberately shifted away from the propitiatory Sacrifice offered for the remission of sins.
Francis, as I stated last week, knows his Novus Ordo very well, which is why his so-called catechesis on why the Church “celebrates the Eucharist” does not mention sin even once.
And lastly, according to the Intervention’s treatment on the ends of Holy Mass:
- Immanent end. Whatever the nature of the Sacrifice, it is absolutely necessary that it be pleasing and acceptable to God. After the Fall no sacrifice can claim to be acceptable in its own right other than the Sacrifice of Christ.
On this point, as noted last week as well, the Intervention warns:
The Novus Ordo changes the nature of the offering, turning it into a sort or exchange of gifts between man and God: man brings the bread, and God turns it into the “bread of life”; man brings the wine, and God turns it into a “spiritual drink.”
At this, Francis took a thinly veiled shot at the Traditional Latin Mass:
The priest pronounces the Eucharistic Prayer aloud, in the name of all those present, addressing the Father through Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit … And to unite must understand. For this reason, the Church wanted to celebrate Mass in the language that people understand, so that everyone can join this praise and this great prayer with the priest.
No, “the Church” didn’t want the common, profane language of the people to supplant Latin in the Mass; much less did our Holy Mother desire to turn the sacred liturgy into performance art which requires that the priest’s every word be audible – rather, a bunch of arrogant and sinful men made that happen.
At several points in today’s Audience, Francis quoted the Catechism of the Conciliar Church and offered a few (heartfelt?) comments about the Real Presence.
Those who are weak of mind, or of faith, or of both, will likely focus on these; as if the leaven that is well mixed throughout his presentation is of no concern.
For Francis’ sake, it would be much better for him if he simply pays lip service to the Real Presence, and does not actually believe, as he said, “The Mass is the sacrifice of Christ … It is the body of Jesus,” given the fact that he refuses to bend his knee before Our Lord either at the altar/table or elsewhere.
Bottom line on this point:
There is precious little to no evidence that Jorge Bergoglio believes that Jesus Christ is truly present in the Most Holy Eucharist, and a boatload of evidence to the contrary.
Some “pope,” eh?
Furthermore, would anyone who understands and holds the Catholic faith say the following, as Francis did today?
Then there is the invocation of the Spirit to consecrate bread and wine with his power. We invoke the Spirit to come, and in the bread, and in the wine, there is Jesus.
If a child preparing for First Holy Communion made such an answer, it would be clear that further formation is needed before proceeding.
Like I said, some “pope,” eh?
The only benefit to be derived from these weekly debacles is that they shed additional light on the sheer folly of the Novus Ordo and on the “so-called pontificate of Francis,” to quote dear Fr. Gruner (buon’ anima!)
I genuinely feel sorry for those who are clinging to the irrational belief that this man, Jorge Bergoglio, who clearly does not believe what the Church teaches, and whose words and deeds are set in active opposition to the same – in spite of numerous corrections – is the Vicar of Christ and the head of the Holy Catholic Church on earth.
At this, I will invite you to read the following blog post from Oakes Spalding, a sincere and well-formed Catholic man whose eyes have recently been opened:
Okay, I’ll Say It: I Don’t Think He’s the Pope
May it please God to likewise open the eyes of many others who are not afraid to raise their voices.
Louie , the Marxist Communist agenda is now out in the open as are many of the sodomites who elected Borgoglio. They feel their numbers are great enough and their time has come.
http://www.lepantoinstitute.org/america-magazine/america-magazine-writer-blaspheming-communist/
While some skirt around the Truth , what genuine Catholic Believer can still deny this?
Yes, Oakes Spalding hits the nail on the head. A very good article. I find it really odd that those with the fullness of Holy Orders cannot see what us poor pew-sitters can see so vividly. That is:
1. The St. Gallen Mafia coerced Benedict’s resignation making it invalid, thus, Benedict is still the pope.
2. If #1 is true, then the election of Bergoglio is invalid.
3. Even if Benedict’s resignation is valid, can any Conclave elect a known heretic? Otherwise-
4. Even if Bergoglio’s election is valid (by some chance), then he has most certainly lost the papacy due to obstinate, material, pertinacious heresy.
Either way, I agree with Spalding that the Chair of Peter is vacant. We can argue all day long how that is or is not the case. However, we cannot deny the facts.
It matters not one whit whether anyone here believes Francis is Pope or not. There are sedevacantists and bennyvacantists but who cares? In the ordinary course of time, Pope Emeritus Benedict will die and His Holiness Pope Francis will die and the College of Cardinals will come together and elect his successor. The opinions of trads on obscure sites notwithstanding.
Also, I have to say that as opposed to the Pius XII sedevacantists, the Benedict XVI sedevacantists are kinda snowflakey. I mean for good or bad, the Pius XII sedevacantists were real men who risked everything by giving up their salaries and pensions by disassociating from their bishops, opened up their own chapels to offer the sacraments, and loudly declared that Pope St. John XXIII and his successors were not popes at all.
Now we have……………….. bloggers.
And one day the College will chose an SSPX Bishop as a papal successor and the century old modernist V2 dumpster fire will finally be extinguished by the Holy Spirit.
I won’t be holding my breath, LennyB.
LennyB. If the SSPX Bishop you speak of is faithful to the true mission of Archbishop Lefebvre, that would be an answer to many prayers. But even then, it would take Divine Intervention to restore the Holy, Roman Catholic Church as Christ established it. Let us pray that your comment is prophetic.
No Gang, what you have here are the voices of real Catholics who now cannot deny the usurpation of the Vatican by the phony sodomite Marxists posing as Catholic prelates and priests.
Try as you might to justify any other position, it is all in vain , because each day another atrocity comes out, another sodo Prelate comes out and God help us Borgoglio puts another one of his shoes in his mouth.
We have all hung onto hope, prayed our rosaries and waited for Divine Intervention while closing our eyes to the obvious.
We all love the Church Jesus Christ established and we know He will finally step in and sweep out the filth.
The new conference by David Rodriguez on Grave Papal Errors is most apt. Find it here:
http://svfonline.org
If not, then it’s here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jwwt7byv63jv4wb/AAA5xdHsqHNB8nk8B_kSx2m0a?dl=0
I now return to my Lenten silence. hehehe….
He has the faith of a Saint and soon he will be entering an SSPX seminary. Few born in the 20th century will live to see his ascension.
I hope this seminarian does not believe in any agreements with evil Modernist Rome. If he does, I cannot put much faith in this “prophecy”. Let’s leave it at that.
Very funny indeed!
Lenny B “Few born in the 20th century will live to see his ascension.”
Do you mean to say few because of the Chastisement or few because it will happen some time in far future? Either way, what makes you think the Triumph will not happen with the next pope in foreseeable future after BISHOP in WHITE and martyrdom of true pope.
Why not sooner?
“When the White Pope and the Black Pope shall die during the same night then there will dawn for the Christian nations the Great White Day. Woe unto the City of Philosophers, woe unto Lombardy for thy towers of joy shall be broken down; All the tyrants shall be put out of God’s Church, and there shall occur a general conversion to the faith of Christ under the Great Lion”
Why not Angelic Pope and Great Monarch around the corner?
“After these purifying punishments, she saw Saint Peter return on a majestic papal throne together with Saint Paul, who went through the world shackling the devils and bringing them before Saint Peter, who cast them back into the dark caverns from where they had come. “Then a beautiful splendor came over the earth, to announce the reconciliation of God with mankind. The small flock of faithful Catholics who had taken refuge under the trees will be brought before Saint Peter, who will “choose a new pope.”” -Bl. Elizabeth Canori Mora
“St. Peter and St. Paul, having come down from Heaven, will preach in the whole world and designate a new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become Pope. Christianity, then, will spread throughout the world.”-Bl Anna Maria Taigi
That’s why I’m asking. How would you know if this is for our time or later?
2 Cents ,
….What is funny is that the joke was always on us. The NO mass was conceived
by those who want it to be a focus of entertainment.
Frustrated dancing and singing queens who think they are priests to entertain us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0BUl-Til-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHHf3Y8UCIg
What Happened PaPa Borgoglio………….?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WFjoQL3wog
sweep–My “funny indeed” comment was meant for AlphonsusJr. who is once again returning to his Lenten silence. I see nothing funny about the blatant attack on Christ’s Church from the enemy within. It is the saddest thing in the world. What makes it even more disturbing is that these perverts do whatever they please totally out in the open without any consequences and that the Catholic laity feel they must support this garbage in order to remain “catholic”. Sweep, I think you will agree with me that adherence to the True Catholic faith has nothing to do with entering any building (loosely referred to as “churches”) that is owned and operated by the V2 establishment. There is no doubt that Paul the Sick is well on his way to “sainthood” perhaps while he is enduring the “smoke of Satan” in a very hot place. May God help us all.
The half-measure of Bennyvacantism will look all the more silly at the passing of Cdl. Ratzinger. Either a pertinacious public heretic who has severed himself from the body can be its head, or…not.
To Momento Mori,
You quoted, “When the White Pope and the Black Pope shall die during the same night then there will dawn for the Christian nations the Great White Day. Woe unto the City of Philosophers, woe unto Lombardy for thy towers of joy shall be broken down; All the tyrants shall be put out of God’s Church, and there shall occur a general conversion to the faith of Christ under the Great Lion”
From Wikipedia entry on Pope St. Pius X: “He died on 20 August 1914 of a heart attack, only a few hours after the death of Jesuit leader Franz Xavier Wernz and on the very day when German forces marched into Brussels.” Pope Pius X= White pope; Fr. Franz Wernz= Black Pope.
There is no forensic evidence that Pius X died of a heart attack. In fact, observational evidence leads to the conclusion that he was poisoned. He had a gradual paralysis from the lower portion of his body gradually to the head. His illness started on August 15th with total paralysis resulting on the 20th. These symptoms are not consistent with the diagnosis of a heart attack.
2Cents , I understood your comment but had to add my own wry brand of sarcasm after a Catholic lawyer friend emailed me one of the videos last night.
Allow me to share that he told me 90% of boys who have been sexually molested will never report because they are embarrassed.
We are supposed to be “impressed” that Borgoglio privately meets with groups of victims of clerical abuse every week !
BUT what as he done to safeguard the seminaries from allowing more “disordered” to enter?
Absolutely the best shock that hits home now is the visual image of what was to what is considered giving honor and glory to God in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
We need to realize there is an entire generation and their children who have no clue. Neither do they realize that the NO appeals to the narcissism that is a common trait with “disordered” individuals.
I personally know way too many ,even those who say the TLM .
They go overboard dressing up and even parading in the streets carrying banners celebrating Feast days that the elderly appreciate who are blinded to the fact the priest is an active sodomite .I have read their praises on Fr Z’s website scratching my head that even he has no clue. Once some parishioners find out the truth they are disgusted with the hypocrisy.
Right now Archbishop Scicluna is in Chile to “Fix” that situation as he did with the legion and RC. But what really changes? In the case of the Legion Maciel was put out to pasture in his mid eighties in a vacation home in Florida . His close friends were reshuffled and other went on to abuse. In Chile they will realize for public consumption that Sodano was complicit ( he is very old and sick now too) and the finger will point his way to absolve Borgoglio of knowledge just like the fingers were pointed elsewhere to absolve the Sainted JP2 and Ratzinger.
They knew Maciel was abusing way back in the mid fifties but the rationalizing and the excuses just continue with no real effort to reform anything.
Just as a side note , I was over at the CMtv site last night and noted the few comments on most stories until I saw one with over a thousand comments. Yes it was about the pervs in the priesthood in Italy , but what shocked me as I perused the comments was the downright angry explicit filth that was being posted by some.
I was banned years ago for questioning the validity of Ordinations without Proper Intention and yes I even spoke with a priest Canon Lawyer who agreed with me since so many sodomites were known to be invited into the seminaries.
I still cannot post ( unless maybe if I become a Premium member).
Perhaps the descriptive filth postings are not something that offends Mr Voris or his moderators , but honest questioning about the revisionist revolution in the Church does ?
I rest my case.
“Honduran Bishop Pineda, Auxilliary to Maradiaga accused of gross sexual perversion – why has Bergoglio and Ouellet left him in place?”
http://voxcantor.blogspot.com/
These kind of fires are breaking out all over the world in the Church and there are not enough Prelates to stomp them out , they continue to smolder in the minds and hearts of the Faithful.
I think it can be worse than just ineffectiveness. This blog, in particular, started with the whole “Bergoglio” instead of “Pope Francis” thing and then gradually and by degrees slithered into a Bennyvacantist position. I see the same logic here – a gradual replacement over time of the word “Mass” with “Novus Ordo”; what will follow will be first “questions” and then declaration (by degrees, of course) of the invalidity of he Mass and all the Sacraments of the Church except for whatever splinter group is the “TRUE remnant” of the Church. I’m not sure that this warrants Hell, but it’s misguided schism at best, probably Gnosticism, and apostasy at worst, and leading gullible people down this path is not good. This is hardly unique in Trad circles, but still harmful. If people want the Latin Mass and to clean up the Church and to fight the Culture of Death, that’s great, but time spent self-interpreting Biblical prophecy, questionable and always vague apparitions etc. accomplishes nothing. I personally dislike a lot of what the Pope says, but I do think that you don’t get to heaven if you just “admonish the sinner”, “instruct the ignorant”, seek out radical groups for Mass (or don’t go at all) and don’t do at least a few corporal works of mercy (which Trads really don’t seem to like) once in a while.
You already know the answer to your question. “After the three days of darkness, St. Peter and St. Paul, having come down from Heaven, will preach in the whole world and designate a new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become Pope. Christianity, then, will spread throughout the world. He is the Holy Pontiff, chosen by God to withstand the storm. At the end, he will have the gift of miracles, and his name shall be praised over the whole earth. Whole nations will come back to the Church and the face of the earth will be renewed. Russia, England, and China will come into the Church.” (Prophecy of Blessed Anna Maria Taigi [1769-1837 A.D.] who was Beatified by Bendedict XV in 1920.)
sweep, a few years ago, I got into a conversation with a mother of a N.O. priest who was in the seminary in the 1970’s to 1980’s. She remarked that on many occasions when her son came to visit, he would be accompanied by fellow seminarians who all appeared to be very “effeminate”. Should we be shocked!
2Cents , absolutely NOT .
i know the mother of a young SSPX priest and since I did, a friend who worked in an active Diocesan sodomite’s rectory called me wishing I would warn the mother.
She said the young priest had been there to talk to the hx pastor she worked for and she asked the sodo priest why since he is an sspx priest . He replied ,”Oh we have much more in common than you know.” This NO priest was very convincing to his flock that he loved tradition . I believe the sspx priest went there encouraged by his own mother to do so when Hewko and his Resistance broke away from the Society.
Her son and she were very close to Hewko ,who himself had much in common with this Diocesan.
Bergolio has to be the worst Pope in the Church’s almost 2000 year history. If you like this guy and his goofy ideas of playing at church, then you better check the spiritual condition of your heart or you’ll find yourself stoking the fires of hell with the rest of these scarlet clad prelates who fill Francis’ chambers.
First it was Amoris Laetitia and it’s allowance of public adulterers. Now full fledged acceptance of homosexual unions! This is not just breaking the 6th commandment of adultery, but sinning against the law of nature.This church, or sect or whatever you want to call it is in full APOSTASY! I cannot speak for all the individual members (God only knows their hearts), but the leadership, with a few exceptions, are total HERETICS!This so called Pope, Father Bergolio, is a complete liberal maniac, and is in the process of destroying our One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. After Vatican II, Novus Ordo Misse, and Amoris Laetitia we no longer have a Church but a sect, a new religion. Since this article I have sought out an SSPX chapel to practice my faith. Who knows, pretty soon true Catholics will have no place to worship but in their own hearts.