According to Edward Pentin of National Catholic Register, plans are underway for a “major international conference to examine ways to resolve the current crisis of division in the Church,” with additional focus on “papal infallibility.”
News of the upcoming conference is being met with excitement; in particular, in neo-conservative circles and even some self-identified “traditional” ones too.
Edward Pentin is one of the most well-informed of Vatican journalists. Although he didn’t divulge sources, there can be no doubt that he is effectively quoting conference organizers when he describes the upcoming event.
With this in mind, the first thing that stands out to me in his report is that the conference, which is reportedly going to meet in Rome in early April, could accurately be named, How do you solve a problem like Francesco?
It won’t be so named, of course.
In fact, we can be fairly certain that it will feature interventions given by the usual cast of characters – Cardinal Burke, Bishop Schneider, Cardinal Sarah, et al – each of which will contain lots of winks-‘n-nods while also failing to identify the actual problem much less name the current primary perpetrator.
The second thing that stands out is that the organizers of the event, in spite of any good intentions, are evidently among the most gravely disoriented.
The “current crisis of division” in the Church, properly speaking (if you’ll forgive my repetition on this point), isn’t so much about Francis; it’s about the Council’s departure from the truths of the Faith that he is simply magnifying as he proceeds along the path that it established.
With regard to Francis himself, “papal infallibility” has very little to do with truly current (and unprecedented) affairs such as those concerning Amoris Laetitia and the various “guidelines” that have been established in its wake (e.g., in Buenos Aires, Malta, and Rome.)
Yes, there are those who wish to treat every papal proclamation as Gospel (when they agree with them, that is), but no one with even an ounce of Catholic credibility is suggesting that Amoris Laetitia has an infallible character.
If the disorientation of conference organizers isn’t evident enough already, Mr. Pentin went on to report:
The upcoming conference is expected to also debate a related subject: the limits of papal power, amid concerns that Pope Francis is leading the Church in a direction that they consider to be a departure from the faith, continuity and tradition, and that he is doing so in an authoritarian fashion and without unanimous consent of bishops.
The unanimous consent of the bishops?
Since when is this a litmus test for determining what can rightly be considered “continuity with tradition” and what cannot?
Let me guess: Since the Almighty Council pronounced on the importance of episcopal collegiality!
A moral unanimity of the bishops of today are utterly convinced that ecumenism, inter-religious dialogue, religious liberty, etc. as conceived at Vatican II are examples of “continuity with tradition.”
This tells us exactly one thing: Nearly every one of these men have departed from the true Faith in such matters.
Even so, excitement about the conference abounds.
As reported by Mr. Pentin, “The international meeting in Rome [was] one of the last wishes of the late Cardinal Carlo Caffarra.”
That’s nice.
Look, by all appearances, Cardinal Caffarra was a holy man. He was also a man-of-the-council who, other than signing the Dubia, did rather little to warn the faithful about the danger represented by the Argentinian presently posing as pope (much less Vatican II and the new Mass).
Now that he has passed, while a conference billed as a testament to his legacy might represent a feel good moment for his overly emotional survivors, it’s of precious little help to the deceased cardinal himself. We must pray for him and for his eternal salvation.
Unless, of course, you are convinced that he’s already in heaven…
The pro-family, pro-marriage forces have a powerful heavenly ally in Cardinal Caffarra—the late archbishop emeritus of Bologna … Perhaps His Eminence—one of the original “dubia cardinals”—is still working in Rome even now, trying to save the Church from the Modernists who have her by the throat.
– Michael Matt, publisher of the Remnant commenting on the upcoming conference
Forgive me for raining on the parade, again, but the Modernist-in-Chief, Jorge Bergoglio, isn’t going to be effectively addressed by a gathering of men whose concept of “tradition” harkens all the way back to the 1960’s; these are the very men from whom the Church and her faithful must be protected!
OK, if not a conference under the patronage of St. Carlo of Bologna, then what will it take to confront the Bergoglian menace?
Simple: The answer lies in applying the Catholic faith whole and entire.
There is no doubt that Our Lord desires for our shepherds to do so authoritatively on our behalf – that is, to formally condemn and depose the heretic for the salvation of souls, including his – but the unfortunate truth is that they simply don’t possess the Catholic faith is sufficient measure to do so.
For more than four years now, Jorge Bergoglio (stage name, Francis) has been demonstrating in both word and deed, consistently and repeatedly, that he simply is not Catholic.
If you have eyes to see as much, thank God for the gift of sight, but do not fail to pray that He will grant it to our churchmen as well along with the grace necessary to do their duty, which isn’t to hold yet another meaningless conference.
My apologies for being somewhat off-topic. The topic for tonight at RCIA is Holy Orders. I am concentrating on giving the most orthodox teaching that I can. Pray that no one asks me about the papacy. I could not teach what I understand to be correct about the papacy with a straight face. Again, please pray for me.
St Carlo of Bologna…..lol. Good one.
“There is no doubt that Our Lord desires for our shepherds to do so authoritatively on our behalf – that is, to formally condemn and depose the heretic for the salvation of souls, including his – but the unfortunate truth is that they simply don’t possess the Catholic faith is sufficient measure to do so.”
And those laity and clergy who clearly have and profess the Catholic faith and have publicly condemned both Vatican II and the Conciliar “popes” are looked upon by most conciliar “Catholics” (both laity and clergy) as schismatic and outside the Church.
I would add to your statement by saying that the youthful priests Ordained by a hx Bishop more often than not defend or will not discuss the concerns the laity have regarding the Diocese. I spoke to one today who warned me that when I stand before god at Judgement I will condemned for the sin of pride because despite the scandals we have witnessed first hand by priests and Bishops and in the Mass we are to keep attending those churches.
IMHO , my conscience tells me pride is not a problem so much as the severe pain we have suffered losing friends, who years later affirmed our experiences with these same clerics.
I really cannot endure those situations anymore . I do not want my family absorbing false interpretations of Scripture or weird Theology in the confessionals. “You just write to your Bishop” , he advised. been there ,done that and sorry but most of the craziness comes from these Bishops in the first place . One Bishop even admitted to me he allows priests and laity to follow their own spirituality ! ( right to hell ). He was a hx too.
“….but the unfortunate truth is that they simply don’t possess the Catholic faith is sufficient measure to do so.”
Why? Because the disordered have Ordained them !
Coincidentally, here’s a fitting quote from an online article entitled, “Where Are the Churchmen With Chests?” published today by Father George Rutler:
“In spiritual combat, there is no teatime, and effective strategies cannot be plotted at conferences, synods, workshops, and costly conventions at resort hotels with multiple ‘break-out’ sessions and mellow music.”
Here’s a link to the article: http://angelqueen.org/2018/01/22/https-www-crisismagazine-com-2018-an-uncertain-sound/
Really though, let’s just pat them on the head with a “that’s adorable, here’s your cookie”
If I had a dollar for everyone who wants to “fix the Church” and call John Paul II a “saint,” I could retire.
You cannot mix Christ wit Belial, and this conference will be meaningless until the Vatican II sect is washed away.
You want your authentic interpretation of V2? Then Bergoglionis what you deserve.
Hollow men, the whole lot. Nothing can come of nothing.
As for the The Remnant, I just viewed their site after a long time of not doing so (I used to regularly read The Remnant). It’s clear that The Remnant is headed for total CatholiCuckery.
For cucks of all kinds, the burning lust for mainstream respectability is just too strong to fight off. Sad!
Why are you involved with conciliarists and their wretched “RCIA”?
A play on C.S. Lewis’s Men Without Chests? Funny. What immediately occurred to me was T.S. Eliot’s Hollow Men and their heads filled with straw. The Lewis thing works too.
Spineless tards, the whole lotta ’em.
Also, why would giving some–any at all–unorthodox teaching be acceptable to you (as implied in your statement that you’ll give the “most” orthodox teaching that you can)? You’re content to possibly send souls to hell through unorthodox teaching? See what association with Judas Council dogs has done to you?
Alfonsus Jr , Don’t be so hard on Briggs,
In time he/she will learn on their own. They all do and then there is someone ready to step in and replace them.
A one time friend was hired as a DRE for the Diocese. she told me she was advised to never talk to anyone who has said something against her boss, the late Bishop McHugh. For 17 years she did not speak to me until I ran into her in a grocery store and she told me she wanted to write a book about the underbelly of the church. I laughed and told her it has already been done 100 x over. Then she educated herself and when I last spoke to her she told me an elderly priest advised her she did not leave the Church ,the Church has left her and all Trad Catholics .
Needless to say, she found her experiences with the NO Bishops and priests were not that unusual and her dedication to see that the CCD children were learning orthodox Catholic teachings was a struggle against the reality of the church today.
Anyone who thinks this conference is going to make a shred of difference is living in La La Land. The Catholic world does not need another conference, another dubia or another correction. It needs an eviction notice.
Don’t teach them the Catholic Faith, you’ll only confuse them. RCIA —-Roaming Catholics Ignorant of Apostolicity.
Ive lost all respect for Michael Matt——he is entering huckster territory. Preserving his trademark brand of “traditionalism” seems above facing reality.
While the Bishops lobby our government to continue to fund Planned Parenthood
http://www.lepantoinstitute.org/usccb/us-bishop-conference-lobbies-congress-fund-agency-funding-planned-parenthood/
When I became Catholic in 2002, I was overjoyed to find the most beautiful thing I had ever seen – the Church. After a cacophany of protestant denominations and worship styles, I found the Mass, I found Jesus in the Eucharist, I found Confession, I found Holy Priests and a diocese that sends its kids to Catholic schools for free. I couldn’t wait to become a catechist to share it with others. When I became RCIA director at my Cathedral parish, I threw away all the materials left for me by the liberal sister who ran it previously. I began to teach from the Catechism and from Scripture and I do my best to teach the most orthodox faith that I can, also drawing from pre vat-II popes and the fathers of the Church. The Catechumens and Candidates at my parish do not get what I hear goes on in other dioceses and parishes.
The current pope and his minions have destroyed my trust in the Church, yet I have these people who want the Church and the Sacraments. Should I send them away? Should I send them to an FSSP parish, or a SSPX group, neither which exists in my city?
I think I prefer to give them the true teachings of the Church, doctrine, sacraments, moral life and prayer without any apology. No one gets catholic-lite from me. I asked for prayer in a difficult situation, and I get snotty comments. I think I’ll leave the site. It is sites like this one that have led to devastating discouragement for me.
Briggs, I will be praying for you. There are many baptized Catholics who know so little or have been so misled, they lack the basic knowledge that is a prerequisite to understanding and being open to the true faith. I think it is important that you are helping these people. The path to uncovering the true Catholic faith is a journey. It doesn’t usually happen overnight. There needs to be foundations laid down, which it appears you are doing. You are protecting them from being misled and if people like you weren’t around during my journey to give me nuggets of truth and expose me to the truth, I may still be lost. As I said, I will be praying for you. I was an adult faith formation director many years ago at a Novus Ordo parish before I had to withdraw. May God bless you!
Perhaps what Briggs means is not that he intends to present anything unorthodox or heterodox, but that he may not be able to convey orthodox teaching in its entirety due to various factors outside of his control (lack of underlying knowledge by the listeners, for example.) In Christian charity, I believe we should not presume a less than pure intention on his part.
All of the weak and meaningless posturing, PR and excuse making engaged in by the few Bishops/Cardinals with any shred of courage, expose the depth of spiritual decay present within these men and why no hope be placed in them. How can none of them be terrified to face God for all the preventable sacrileges committed on an hourly basis, that they are charged with fighting as leaders. There is little to no fear of God.
briggs, ditch the pitiful sentimentalism and virtue-signaling. Man up. It’s time to get really real.
VRasz,
Why is there little or no fear of God among them ?
Because as alter Christus they really do believe they are God even outside of the Sacraments .
I know this first hand because I spoke with one today and then wrote to a priest friend I trust.
Here is what he sent me,” XXXX, any priest who talks “as If” he is God can not be reliable.”
Good point. I look back to my youth and the times I was the least concerned, or frankly oblivious to, God’s justice, were the times I was in mortal sin. All I saw was God’s mercy, and the only love in my soul was self-love and self absorption. However, the further along I go on my spiritual journey the more aware and sensitive and frankly, angry and depressed I become over disrespectful treatment and sacrilegious reception of the Blessed Sacrament. And I’m sure many of you feel the same way – not that any of us are saints of course, but from what I’ve read, my experiences seem consistent with the writings of past saints on the state of an individuals soul and its attachment to, or freedom from sin. So that alone sheds light on the subject (which is consistent the corruption among priests that you have encountered.)
In the meantime, the Bishops of Washington D.C. and Virginia (not sure where) have granted a plenary indulgence to all who participated in the March for Life. It made them look good and it didn’t cost them a penny. Hypocrites!
Here’s the link re above:
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/participating-in-the-march-for-life-theres-an-indulgence-for-that-80846
In all of this I prefer to take the mindset of our Eastern rite brethren. Namely, that, unless the pope is actually teaching as Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Catholic Church regarding a matter of Faith and Morals Ex Cathedra, then pay him no heed. Look, as I have written many times in the Remnant forum(s), the Catholic Churches of the East have NO DOG in this fight. They simply view the pope as an “Equal among Equals.” The Bishop of Rome is the Patriarch of the West, and, nothing more UNLESS he is invoking papal infallibility in accordance with the teaching of the First Vatican Council and prior Council pronouncements. We can argue until the Second Coming of Jesus Christ Himself as to who is or who is not the true pope. Mr. Siscoe and Salza REFUSE to address the Universi Dominici Gregis document left by John Paul II (and unchanged by Benedict) governing the valid election of a cardinal to the papacy. Until then, all of this back and forth and the wringing of our collective hands over Bergoglio is absolutely academic. No one on this forum questions Bergoglio’s valid reception of Holy Orders or his subsequent consecration as a bishop, nor his elevation to the rank of cardinal. That said, the only question the faithful laity (and some clerics and prelates) have is the validity of Benedict’s resignation, and the validity of the 2013 conclave that elected Bergoglio. The entire issue of coercion/blackmail/conspiracy by the St. Gallen Mafia to force Benedict’s resignation and politic for Bergoglio is still in question (in my humble opinion). However, if and until all of these issues remain unanswered by the proper ecclesiastical authority in the Church, I wash my hands of this pontificate.
I also meant to include that I posted this on OnePeterFive yesterday in regards to an article on Siscoe and Salza. Therefore, when I wrote “those on this site”, I do not mean those on this site!
The following is a coment I attempted to place on The Remnant version of this article about a “major international conference” from Ed Pentin. It was banned twice as spam. Judge for yourself.:
Sadly, I see no good coming from a conference if, like the Council of Constance, it advocates a form of conciliarism. Francis I has the power and jurisdiction to shut down the discussion and punish the participants. Any real discussion would have to be done in secret. As I have stated previously, the only solution is military. Only a Catholic state or group of Catholic states would be able to remove Francis I from the papal throne. He was a known heretic before he was elected. There was open collusion and simony during the conclave. He has been consistently heretical during his “pontificate”. As the encyclopedia of the Catholic Church (Knights of Columbus), has stated, no heretic can be made a pope. QED – he’s not a validly elected pope. What then is the reason for his efforts to change Catholic Doctrine, discipline, practices and culture? There can only be one reason. A power, an evil power wants to destroy the Catholic Church and the saving graces of the sacraments through the salvation wrought by Jesus Christ. That power in this age is acting through Freemasonry, an organized cabal of subversives, acting on behalf of Satan.
St. Bernard of Clairvaux and St. Norbert implored Emperor Lothair to haul Anacletus II, a crypto-Jew whose actions made his heresy evident, off the papal throne. We Catholics today have to do the very same. While there is no Innocent II waiting in the wings, that situation could be taken care of by an imperfect council. It’s only job would be to elect a valid pope, i.e., a pope free from heresy, apostosy and schism and most importantly, Freemasonry. This can be done. It must be done – by we Catholics, with God’s good graces.
Mary, I like your comment …if only we had the numbers of Catholics, both clerical and lay who had the same burning zeal for the Jesus now.
But we are few and far between…………..
Such conferences have become little more than exercises in collective virtue-signaling.
As I have implied before, the political leadership of the Catholic majority countries of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire in Europe, may have sufficient support and political will to mount a coup against this Vatican. Already, they, and France, are getting ansy under EU leadership and mandates. Why are the EU politics important? The EU is the tip of the spear of the New World Order. Our beloved pontiff is very likely a freemason and dutiful servant of the New World Order, taking his orders from his masters. The Eastern Europeans appear to be ready to sweep out the filth. If they do that they will have to sweep out the masonic fellow travelers in the Vatican, along with Francis I, with something like an inquisition.
Mary you stated,”Our beloved pontiff is very likely a freemason and dutiful servant of the New World Order, taking his orders from his masters. The Eastern Europeans appear to be ready to sweep out the filth.”
Not “likely” he IS a marxist freemason of the NWO.
Some time ago I read the children’s books he had a hand in writing and producing. They were all on the environment and loving those who among us are gender confused.
In the Apocalypse we read about ” mystical Babylon” or Rome which Blessed Emmerick identified as the RC Mass in many languages. She goes on to say how bad the times are. St John Chrysostom told his parishioners that when Jesus said it would be worse than Sodom and Gomorrah in the END Times, He was referring to the fact that you will see many of His own ministers would become sexually perverted. The Book of the Apocalypse goes on to say that Rome (aka Babylon) will be a city that is a haunt of every filthy scavenger bird of prey.
The attack on the two doves Francis released was just one of the signs people did not recognize.The influx of hordes of seagulls who litter St Perter’s Square with garbage and hovered around the homo sexually designed creche , another.
The book of the Apocalypse also tells us of a the Woman who is flown by an eagle to the desert and nourished in hiding for a time ,times and half . Our Lady who represents the True Church is that woman. That is the Church translated from one place to another, explained by Emmerick and other approved Saints and Blesseds .
Furthermore, as we follow along God Himself tells us through His Holy Ghost and the pen of St John to, “Come out of there my children , lest you partake of her punishments.”
Again , referring to the punishments He will inflict on Rome at that time. The analogy of those punishments is given by the Angel who ties a great millstone around that city and throws it into the sea. Refer back to Jesus in the NT Who condemned those who abuse innocent children keeping them from Him and how much better it would have been for them if they were bound with a millstone and cast into the sea.
The signs are all there and we are living it.
Physically we know Rome will be attacked and burned at least in part, as well as Paris according to Marie Julie Jahenny.
We know this from the partial Third Secret, we know this from the Saints and most importantly from the Scriptures.
If this will all come about by the hands of the Eastern Europeans or by Islamists remains to be seen.
http://traditioninaction.org/bev/091bev10-23-2007.htm
http://traditioninaction.org/bev/099bev06-30-2008.htm
PROGRESSIVISM IS BECOMING GREEN – After Benedict XVI blew the whistle to start the game of ecology at Loreto on Creation Day 2007 (last September 1), his team of Bishops entered the field…….
I have no problem calling Francis I a marxist, pederast, pedophile enabler, homosexual, rationalist, modernist, etc., etc. But, the reason why the freemason label is so important, is because that organization and it’s various permutations is what controls and directs the New World Order, whether it is your local police detectives, your asssemblyman or — the pope. Our pope is not Christ’s man. He is a freemason working under the direction of some banker, or company director or government official on behalf of the New World Order. He wouldn’t be in the papacy unless he were blackmailable.
I heartily disagree with the premise that God will act through nature to end this crisis. Or that the responsibility for ending this falls on God alone. Yes, I believe God will allow this to end, but never forget that we are His arms, legs, hands and feet. By our Baptism and especially our Confirmation it is our responsibility to act on His behalf. Faith without works is dead. What could be a more important work than ensuring the integrity of the faith? Our Lady of Fatima said that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph. When those who would remove the pope from the papal throne act to do so, they should carry an image of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and pray the Rosary. She will show how she conquers.
The Marxist Communist plan was to enter world politics through Green Cross.
Gorbachev is was and has reaffirmed he in a communist atheist. Opus dei and the CIA spread the false notion he was a secretly Baptized Christian and now Putin the KGB murderer, is using photo ops i.e. submerging in water on the Feast of the Epiphany, in an attempt to climb on the exact same propaganda float.
mary_podlesak, understanding the power blackmail and finance controls behind the NWO………….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAz4cnoj7w
Why Is the Vatican Pushing Communist Goals?
http://www.lepantoinstitute.org/sustainable-development-goals/vatican-pushing-communist-goals/
Yes, the New World Order, the Deep State, the Shadow Government want to lead us to total control, ie., atheistic communism. Did you know that all of the most zealous Communists were atheistic Jewish freemasons before they were Communists? That is a well known fact among students of Communism. Masonry is not some side issue. It is the main issue.
Hi briggs,
I admit that I started to post a reply to you that wasn’t snotty to you but was cynical regarding RCIA/Novus Ordo etc. I chose not to post it because I realized that that would not help you. After reading some of the other posts I think I should write a response after all.
I am also a convert to the Novus Ordo Church (1998), so I can absolutely relate to your experiences. I think if you truly want to teach them the Catholic Faith then you would have to teach against the current “JPII” Catechism. You would have to teach them that ecumenism is false, that religious liberty is false, and that at Vatican II the “Church” started teaching a religion that was substantially different from the religion the Catholic Church taught before the Council. Needless to say, doing any of that won’t get you too far with the RCIA lay leaders and the pastor at your parish.
Having said all of that, clearly you are not yet “there”, so at this point I would suggest doing the best you can do to avoid teaching anything against the Catholic Faith. Chances are the topics of ecumenism and religious liberty (for example) will not be discussed. But make no bones about it, by doing this you are shortchanging those who are looking for the True Faith. If I were you, I would make this my last year teaching the Novus Ordo RCIA.
hx?
God bless you briggs, I bet your heart is in the right place. You’re here, so you’ll likely figure this all out at some point. Sometimes, it’s hard for the rest of us, who now understand only too well the conciliar church is a dead end. I hope the talk went well though.
And an exorcism.
I think you are right.
Why on earth should we get excited about a collective of wet kittens, when all we have needed for years now is one faithful Bishop with a microphone.
“No one on this forum questions Bergoglio’s valid reception of Holy Orders or his subsequent consecration as a bishop, nor his elevation to the rank of cardinal.”
Actually, there are quite a few of us who question his “Holy Orders” and “Episcopal Consecration”. He was not ordained nor consecrated in the Old Rite. The new Pauline rites are doubtful.
Even without Holy Orders, a Catholic man can be elected Pope. Bergolio could never be elected Pope because he is not Catholic. Also, all the electors who elected Bergolio lost their offices (if they ever had them), and therefore had no authority to elect a Catholic Pope seeing as to how they were modernists and not Catholic.
True. A Catholic man could be elected pope and then ordained and consecrated.
Yes I did Mary, straight from my Grandmother’s lips who escaped Lithuania with two toddlers in hand when they saw where the Russian winds were blowing their way before the Bolshevic Revolution . I also got the low down straight from the mouths of Communist Party members that we were here with in the Ballet. Irina Kolpakova been one of them, along with Shamakin ,Artistic Director of the Ukrainian Donestk Ballet. Pederasty was an accepted practice in the Russian ballet boarding schools, yet desperate parents wanting financial and career security for their children traveled from all over the soviet union in the hopes their children would be accepted.
Irina was the Ballet Mistress of the ABT in NYC for a number of years and retired on her Lenin award communist pension in Russia. From 1974 to 1979 she served as a deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irina_Kolpakova
Lech Walesa , leader of Solidarity was also a KGB agent.American Catholics were and are for the most part clueless.
Our Lady of Fatima , Pray for US.
Yep, there is a solution to the chaos, and it’s not a conference, it’s a conclave. This pontificate is the source of chaos, confusion, and vile retribution.
For those of us who were brought up in a Novus Ordo environment, we are taught to think it is better to give people half the truth with the hope that they wont be too offended, and then hope you can slip the rest of the truth, (which following is more demanding,) later on. This is of course, horrible! However, it took time for me to realize the error of that method. I did not teach RCIA, but I did supplemental adult faith formation on various other topics, that were essentially of my choosing, for the parish. I reached a point several years ago where I could not implicitly associate myself with what was being taught by others at the parish, even though I was focusing on orthodox teachings. I had to choose between helping pull others along hoping they would see the errors of V2 through giving them orthodox resources from pre V2, and on the other hand. focusing my energies on prayers, fasting and sufferings offered up for the conversion of those NO parishioners. I chose the latter. However, the only reason I ever started uncovering the truth was through trying to learn the faith in depth so I could teach it to others… Without that step, I likely wouldn’t have uncovered the inconsistencies and found pre V2 resources that have led me to the true faith. Finding the Catholic is like a treasure hunt, but most have no idea there is a treasure to find…
A conclave?
I wonder what the percentage of Communists Cardinals will be there vs real Catholic Cardinals?
The Vatican has already asked real Catholic Bishops to step aside in favor of the Politically elected Communist ones in Communist China .
http://voxcantor.blogspot.com/
Mary, your comment was banned at the Remnant because you stated that a heretic cannot be Pope. They believe one can.
Sweep, there are no real Catholic Cardinals. Only a handful of bishops and priests.
With your family history you obviously are aware of the Jewish-masonic connection to Communism. Talmud adhering Jews were and are prominent in Lithuania.
My father was a labor leader and met Lech Walesa. I found out he was a traitor years ago and his good friend, Pope John Paul II was the same and inevitably a freemason.
It’s no surprise that atheists would be corrupt pederasts. With the new openess regarding sexual abuse, these narratives will become the norm. The wonder is that these ballet companies produced these beautiful ballets in spite of the corruption.
My ballet teacher was associated with the ABT.
Yes, Mary and Sweep.
And here St. Maximilian Kolbe tells the freemasons who actually *controls* them:
Maximilian Kolbe to the Masons: You Are Controlled by the Jews
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Read his words here:
http://www.traditioninaction.org/History/G_010_Kobe_Jewsl.html
In the hopes of what? A Pope Burke? He’s not Catholic either.
If I could upvote you, I would.
Ironically the Communist leaders recognized the Vaganova ballet as a national treasure. The forbade the modern ballets to taint the heritage . Although they still focus on the classics there, the same modern garbage that ruined the Art here has, pervaded their schools and performances.
Kolpakova told me she planned retiring in St Petersburg, which she did with her husband in the Tolstoy House apartments.
Most of ,”those beautiful ballets” were created long before communism under the czars. Look up Marius Petipa
Tom A and 2 Vermont…….agree with both of you here.
Mary , after the Bolshevic Revolution it was Jewish revolutionaries who were placed high in the Communist Party. It is a matter of public record.
Also ,CPUSA here came out for Bernie Sanders during the last election and his Campaign Headquarters was housed in the Masonic Lodge where he is a member. now everyone is up in arms about the revelation that, “… members of our FBI belonged to a secret society.”
Then there was the “wonderful” Opus Dei Judge Scalia , who died in the hunting Lodge of another secret society.
I will continue to ask, Is anyone just Catholic anymore?
The KoC , run by Opus Dei Andersen now , also has and has had ties to the local Masonic Lodges in various places. Any wonder their Squires had a pederasty scandal?
Have the participants of this upcoming conference (aka “dog and pony show”), hired food tasters and body guards. Are they ready to join Cardinal Carlo of Bologna?
I am shocked, shocked that Bernie would have his campaign headquarters in a masonic lodge. Or that CPUSA would endorse him. For all intents and purposes he represented the extreme left wing of the Democrats. Really.
As for Judge Scalia, yeah, I knew about that. It would be nice if Maureen Scalia was honest about all this, but then she is probably afraid for herself and her children.
My husband is in the KoC and embroiled in an argument over money. What else? As one of the trustees of the money, I told him he’d better watch his back.
I was banned from 1Peter5 for having the temerity to point out that our fearless leader, Francis I , was a thug who would stoop to murdering “a couple of the dubia cardinals”. Two months after I was banned the first Cardinal died in May, then the second died a couple of months later. With modern drugs and devices it’s easy to kill a sick old man and call it natural causes.
hx =HOMOSEXUAL
2 Cents , did even cost em a scuff on their soles or souls.
Mary,
Skojak is a JP2 convert and was a member of RC.
IMHO, having recognized immediately what the LC/RC and Maciel were all about , these poor souls ,however well meaning ,are some of the the least intelligent Catholics and should not be preaching Catholicism to anyone. There discernment was askew from the beginning. It is one thing to relate their experiences as being fooled and then recognizing they were drawn into a cult ,but quite another to suddenly be claiming to know the Traditions of the Catholic Church. If he did, he would never have joined any of these so called new Movements in the first place.
I wish I could believe that their problems were caused by ignorance or naivete. Their motives must be far more sinister because I was told in no uncertain terms that it was the funders of the site who wanted me gone. Question: Who are those funders? Might they be George Soros groups? Is 1Peter5 controlled opposition?
I lived in Northern Virginia, and still have a house there. I personally knew members of LC/RC. They didn’t impress me as the most moral devout Catholics. Today, after all that’s happened, my opinion is more severe than it was. Anyone who relies on 1Peter5 for their Catholic information is taking chances with their faith.
So please name these handful of truly Catholic bishops and priests. Do they all reside in the SSPX? What about the bishops and priests of the twenty-three other Catholic Eastern rites? Or do we only concern ourselves with the Latin rite? Of these truly faithful bishops and priests, when will they stand up and convene an imperfect Council and then a conclave to elect a true Catholic as pope?
Well, Ms. Randy Engel would probably agree that the hand of Opus Dei most certainly have a major role to play in not only Michael Voris’ Church Militant, but perhaps in just about every other Modernist, Novus Ordo organization- possibly 1P5.
lol…okay!
Dear Louie,
I have not been here in a sometime. Reason? Your work has always been and continues to be on point, accurate, fully supported, highly informative, courageous, direct and blunt when needed. However the most important quality which is greatly appreciated is….you always write with sincerity and charity.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about your COMBOX. One word comes to mind…”NASTY”. Today’s threads reflect just that….NASTINESS! Not everyone but way too many. Some folks seem to be just seething with anger. It’s hurting your apostolate and this blog in IMHO.
It’s not often that one should invoke a “Dilbert” axiom….to wit:
“Never argue with idiots because they will shout you down first and then beat you with experience”
Unfortunately, this COMBOX has just about reached the “Dilbert” stage.
That’s not good. You deserve better. Some Folks are abusing your charity.
Has the Eastern Rite condemned Vatican II?
Yes, it is naturally the SSPX Bishops and those sede
Bishops with valid ordinations. It would also include Eastern Catholic Eparchs. Even schismatic Russian and Greek orthodox orders are valid. Its the Novus Ordo orders that are doubtful.
Tom…I don’t think he was referring to valid orders. I think he was referring to those that are actually Catholic. One can have valid orders and still not profess the Catholic Faith.
On the previous thread I see “Jacobum” was not happy with the comments in the Comboxes. I hope he did presume me “nasty” for pointing out that some converts who came to the Catholic Church during the reign of Pope JP 2 and joined one of the Movements ,thus becoming Catholic celebrities in their own right and teaching others what it means to be Catholic. I give you as an example Mr Scott Hahn OD ,who in one of his writings, had the enlightened notion to tell us the Holy Ghost was female.
It is precisely these converts that the Movements i.e. the Legion/Regnum Christi and Opus were fond of recruiting simply because they knew they would not get a Traditionalist Catholic arguments confronting their novelties.
See my remarks directly above. I am well aware that many who post on AKA Catholic question the validity of NO Holy Orders. My post above referred to those who post on 1P5.
No, the Eastern Catholic rite bishops have not condemned Vatican II. However, as I have written in many blog posts, they have no dog in the fight. They view the pope as an “Equal among Equals” when it comes to Patriarchs. They view the pope as the Bishop of Rome and the Patriarch of the West. Yes, they recognize the pope’s juridical authority over the Universal Catholic Church. However, Vatican II changed absolutely NOTHING for the twenty-three Eastern rites. Not their Divine Liturgy. Not their theology, etc. The prelates who represented the Eastern rites at Vatican II could have cared less about all of the changes. After all, the changes effected ONLY the Latin rite liturgy/theology. I do not think that the Eastern rite bishops voted on ANYTHING proposed at Vatican II. It simply did not effect them. They regard the pope’s authority only so far as the defined Magisterium said at Vatican I- nothing more, nothing less. The Eastern rite prelates regard Vatican II as a pastoral council ONLY. They do not regard any of Vatican II as doctrinal/dogmatic. I hope this helps to clear up a few things.
It’s true. I’m seething with anger. Limp-wristed traitorous sellouts of every kind make me sick. I should probably take a break.
On the other hand, I’m now reading this:
The Necessity of Righteous Anger
http://faithandheritage.com/2017/06/the-necessity-of-righteous-anger/
If you are going to accuse others of being “nasty” you should really be more specific…as in exactly what was said that was so “nasty” and by whom. Otherwise you’re just whistling in the wind.
Gotcha.