Recently reported comments offered by Cardinal Marx of Munich—President of the German bishops’ conference—have raised no small number of traditional eyebrows.
According to Catholic World News:
In an interview with the French Jesuit journal Etudes, Cardinal Marx says that the phrase “new evangelization” … suggests a “restoration” of Catholic influence.
The Cardinal offered a swift correction:
“It could be mistaken for a model for a spiritual reconquest, as if the aim was to regain lost ground,” the German cardinal said. “It is not, however, about restoring or repeating what existed in the past, but rather, a new start, a new approach, a new situation.”
While the idea of the Church embarking on a program of novelty that effectively divorces the Church of her past is condemnable indeed, don’t shout “Horse Feathers” just yet.
The fact of the matter is he’s absolutely right; “a new start” is precisely what the so-called “new evangelization” is all about.
That is why the overwhelming majority of churchmen in our day (including the pope) no longer call anyone to conversion, have totally abandoned all talk of the Social Kingship of Christ, and are comfortable celebrating a new rite concocted by committee with the intent of making the heretics feel right at home.
Dear Louie,
Funny you should bring in Groucho, 🙂 🙂 as he had a few choice things to say about what we see going on in the German Hierarchy and too many other places today:
–“The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”
–“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
–“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
Hooray for Cap’t Spauding!
And my favourite (when Groucho was denied member ship in a no-Jews country club) “I wouldn’t join a club that would have me as a member!”
Heheh. I wonder if Groucho was a secret periti at the council?
It [the new spreading of the gospel of the unbelievers] is a ‘model for spiritual reconquest’ – by the world that ‘lost’ so many souls to heaven and now wants to gain back that ground to boost the sales in hell. Even though they probably don’t believe in hell, and therefore certainly don’t believe in heaven.
Here’s a quote from Marx: “Openness is essential, as is mutual trust in order to find the right path to take, together.” Here he’s talking about the Synod. How twisted is the language! He means there was a ‘frank and fair’ discussion about mortal sin, and not-quite-mortal sin – adultery and don’t-be-so-harsh adultery, between dogma and discipline and mercy and love. The lack of logic is astounding – it’s called ‘a false alternative.’
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Perverted logic but when read by the uninformed it sounds good, no?
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First point: openness is essential. Yes indeed. Faithful Catholics must openly preach the Gospel in season and out. But Marx means that all the lies must be spoken in the same way as the truth – openness – get all the mess out in the open – let good and evil be discussed as equals, then let’s sort it all out so everyone can be happy.
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Second point: when he says mutual trust must be given he means we must trust that the lies somehow will meet the truth and the lies will prevail. All we have to do is trust him, and his cohort – so simple! Just trust me! It will be ok, I promise! We will all go to Heaven together, so just stop telling the truth because it’s not helping!
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Everything that comes out of this poor man’s mouth is perverted but couched in such sweet terms it’s being swallowed wholesale. Evil.
Did Louie hit the nail on the head again??? “YOU BET YOUR LIFE!!”
Holy Modernist speak Batman! New, new, new, new, new…like the great commission is sooooo outdated and all of those missionary saints were clueless and out of step. Pffft! And the twisted double speak is alive and well. Openess=open to evil. Trust=let me do what I want even though it’s a lie. Me thinks I hear the slick tongue of the demonic. God bless~
Dear Barbara, (regarding your quote of Cardinal Marx above)
Unfortunately quoting the OTHER “Marx”, shines a light on the philosophy that appears to have so many in our hierarchy working feverishly to undermine the ancient One True Faith of Christ:
–“The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their REAL happiness.. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.”
–” Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man will continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and pluck the living flower. The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, SO THAT HE WILL MOVE AROUND HIMSELF AS HIS OWN TRUE SUN. Religion is the only illusory Sun which revolves around man AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND HIMSELF.”
–” .. the human essence has not aquired any true reality..Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of the heartless world, and the soul of soulless
conditions. It is the opium of the people.” (From the introduction of Karl Marx’s unpublished, and unfinished, “A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right.”
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Spoken like a truly diabolically disoreinted man, who after thoroughlly analyzing the astonishing complexity of the physical, spiritual, and emotional nature/makeup we each are born with, and the world of equally amazing complexity, beauty, mystery, and wonder, espoused a philosophy which puts man at the center of the universe, rather than as totally indebted to the God and Father Who has revealed Himself to us as our Creator, Redeemer, and Sanctifier, whose ever-present Providence sustains every breath we take; instead Marx denigrates the idea of taking up the Cross of Christ in this life as “the halo” false religion gives to the vale of tears.
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Miracles that confirmed Our Lady of Fatima’s words are nowhere mentioned by modernist/Marx-ists, while the serious warnings and predictions she gave us are denegrated and then put in a closet or “redefined” as fitting in with their ideas.
John XXIII (opening address at VII Oct 11, 1962):
” In the daily exercise of Our pastoral office, it sometimes happens that We hear certain opinions which disturb Us—opinions expressed by people who, though fired with a commendable zeal for religion, are lacking in sufficient prudence and judgment in their evaluation of events. They can see nothing but calamity and disaster in the present state of the world. They say over and over that this modern age of ours, in comparison with past ages, is definitely deteriorating. One would think from their attitude that history, that great teacher of life, had taught them nothing. They seem to imagine that in the days of the earlier councils everything was as it should be so far as doctrine and morality and the Church’s rightful liberty were concerned.”
— “We feel that We must disagree with these prophets of doom, who are always forecasting worse disasters, as though the end of the world were at hand. Present indications are that the human family is on the threshold of a new era. We must recognize here THE HAND OF GOD, who, as the years roll by, IS EVER DIRECTING MEN’S EFFORTS whether they realize it or not, towards the fulfillment of the inscrutable designs of His providence, wisely arranging everything, even adverse human fortune, for the Church’s good.”
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In THIS case, it seems the Council itself, with its homo-centrist philosophy and the abuses it has generated, are the “adverse human fortune” that we must survive while holding on to Faith and Hope to see the Church’s future good. Our Lady of Fatima was the True prophet of our times. Those who oppose her words, are the false.
The above link to “CatholicCulture” points to an additional source for this story – href=”http://www.lastampa.it/2015/03/04/esteri/vatican-insider/en/marx-its-not-religious-entrepreneurs-that-are-needed-but-witnesses-k0ehRMasDyknLrLPfifGkI/pagina.html”>this article in La Stampa. The latter article appears to attribute the following extended quote to Marx (though the speech marks are difficult to follow):
“In terms of the magisterium too, the Church develops without renouncing its beliefs but throughout its history, Church dogma has unfolded further and it has been elaborated on further…. There is no finish line in the search for the truth.”
Whether it is an exact quote or not, this statement echoes Bergoglio’s refusal to speak about “absolute” truths, even for believers.
Compare both of the above statements with the Catholic Encyclopedia on href=”http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm”>”Infallibility” (emphasis added):
“If the early definitions of the Church were fallible, and therefore reformable, perhaps those are right who say today that they ought to be discarded as being actually erroneous or even pernicious, or at least that they ought to be re-interpreted in a way that substantially changes their original meaning; perhaps, indeed, there is no such thing as absolute truth in matters religious! How, for example, is a Modernist who takes up this position to be met except by insisting that definitive teaching is irreversible and unchangeable; that it remains true in its original sense for all time; in other words that it is infallible?“.
(Please delete my comment above. The following is the same comment, but hopefully this time with functioning links.)
The above link to “CatholicCulture” points to an additional source for this story – this article in La Stampa. The latter article appears to attribute the following extended quote to Marx (though the speech marks are difficult to follow):
“In terms of the magisterium too, the Church develops without renouncing its beliefs but throughout its history, Church dogma has unfolded further and it has been elaborated on further…. There is no finish line in the search for the truth.”
Whether it is an exact quote or not, this statement echoes Bergoglio’s refusal to speak about “absolute” truths, even for believers.
Compare both of the above statements with the Catholic Encyclopedia on “Infallibility” (emphasis added):
“If the early definitions of the Church were fallible, and therefore reformable, perhaps those are right who say today that they ought to be discarded as being actually erroneous or even pernicious, or at least that they ought to be re-interpreted in a way that substantially changes their original meaning; perhaps, indeed, there is no such thing as absolute truth in matters religious! How, for example, is a Modernist who takes up this position to be met except by insisting that definitive teaching is irreversible and unchangeable; that it remains true in its original sense for all time; in other words that it is infallible?“.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [Matt 7-15, Douay Rheims]
Lies and Trust. How easily is a lazy ‘trust’ abuse by lies.
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From todays reading. Ephesians 5: Be ye therefore followers of God, as most dear children and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath delivered himself for us, an oblation and a sacrifice to God for an odour of sweetness…For know you this and understand, that no fornicator, or unclean, or covetous person (which is a serving of idols), hath inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words. For because of these things cometh the anger of God upon the CHILDREN OF UNBELIEF. Be ye not therefore partakers with them. For you were heretofore darkness, but now light in the Lord. Walk then as children of the light.
Pascendi
55. …. Let them combat novelties of words, remembering the admonitions of Leo XIII: “It is impossible to approve in Catholic publications a style inspired by unsound novelty which seems to deride the piety of the faithful and dwells on the introduction of a new order of Christian life, on new directions of the Church, on new aspirations of the modern soul, on a new social vocation of the clergy, on a new Christian civilization, and many other things of the same kind.”