Famous American “evangelist” Billy Graham has died. Let us pray for him, confident that Our Lord will render perfect justice unto this man who enriched himself by preaching a false gospel; one that encouraged countless souls to die as he did without the aid of the sacraments, outside the one true Church of Christ.
Though I’ve not yet read any statements from members of the hierarchy commenting on Graham’s death, I am certain that many of them will amount to a call to commence his cause for canonization.
This is precisely what happened when another so-called “evangelist,” Robert Schuller of Crystal Cathedral fame, died in 2015.
Readers may recall that Bishop Vann of the Diocese of Orange, where the deceased heretic ran his Christo-business, issued a statement saying:
Schuller showed the light of Christ to people all over the world [via] his inspiration to so many in his preaching of the Word of God … giving of his entire self to the mission of Christ in the world.
Seriously, folks, would anyone really be surprised if a formal cause for the canonization of Billy Graham is actually undertaken?
I wouldn’t.
In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me one iota if the man is eventually raised to the altars; that is, in the same manner as men like Karol Wojtyla.
If we’re honest, we have to admit that according to the new and improved process for canonization – which renders “sainthood” little more than a Lifetime Achievement Award in Service to the Conciliar Revolution – Graham is no less deserving than John Paul II.
Consider the following:
I think that everybody that loves or knows Christ, whether they are conscious of it or not, they are members of the body of Christ… [God] is calling people out of the world for his name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they have been called by God. They may not know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something they do not have, and they turn to the only light they have, and I think that they are saved and they are going to be with us in heaven. – Billy Graham (cf Interview with Robert Schuller, Evangelicalism Divided (2000), pp. 73–74)
This man is the way for the Church-a way that, in a sense, is the basis of all the other ways that the Church must walk – because man – every man without any exception whatever – has been redeemed by Christ, and because with man – with each man without any exception whatever – Christ is in a way united, even when man is unaware of it: Christ, who died and was raised up for all, provides man – each man and every man – with the light and the strength to measure up to his supreme calling. – John Paul II (Redemptor Hominis 14)
In these quotes, we find summarized in just a few sentences one and the same false gospel; the perversion of the “good news” that both Wojtyla and Graham preached to the nations throughout their “evangelical” careers.
With this in mind, I invite neo-conservative, JPII Catholics, to repeat after me in light of Graham’s passing, Santo Subito!
I would be delighted to see Billy Graham “canonized,” not because I delight in seeing God mocked, but because such would presumably awaken some of those who are pleased to call John Paul II “saint,” opening their eyes to the true extent of the present crisis.
Faithful Catholics across the globe are dying without the aid of the sacraments thank to the N.O. V2 “church”. At least, Graham died knowing his was Protestant and not pretending to be Catholic like so many in the hierarchy today. Also, at least, he died a Christian. Can’t say that for Bergoglio and Company. May God have mercy on his soul. May God have mercy on all of us suffering through this crisis in Our Lord’s Church.
At a certain point, one must wonder (for even cradle post-VII Catholics) just when the lack of proper catechesis rises to the level that- even for Protestants- makes their culpability such that God will not punish them eternally in Hell for not knowing any better. After nearly five centuries since the Reformation, and a true lack of evangelization from the Catholic Church since Vatican II, I have to ask if it is possible that many baptized Protestants will not somehow get to Heaven? I know that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. However, how many neo-Catholics and Protestants really know? And, if they do not know, how can God hold this against them on Judgment Day?
The news today is awash with Billy Graham adulation. All it takes is an altar call and you are saved ! Graham was said to be famous for his altar calls.
I actually witnessed a priest do an altar call during Mass for a very embarrassed and confused group of Confirmation candidates. The priest named it an “altar call” and then picked up a paper cup filled with “holy water” splashing it all over the teens. Then he crumpled up the cup and threw it out into the people in the pews.
I left . Frankly I got very tired of leaving the NO churches. I did so in ’77 and then joined an Eastern Catholic Rite. A little slower on the uptake but they too were filled with notorious “disordered” priests .
Then we tried an SSPX chapel where we were treated to one Fr Hewko’s crazy sermons praising the person of Adolf Hitler. Then a brief trip after 30 years back to a Diocesan parish with Fr William Ashley who said a reverent TLM . That didn’t last because Bishop McHugh allowed him in under false pretenses. He wanted that independent chapel property ( formerly Most Holy Family monastery where John Venarri was a Brother) and as soon as he could he made sure he got it signed over to the Diocese and threw Fr Ashley out.
Of course the official history on their website was changed so as not to reveal the literal turmoil that took place there. I recall when the “disordered” Diocesan finally took over and used his homily time to rail about the previous good priest. People ran out ! One lady came up to my car door to tell me she never heard a priest scream such hate against another priest in her life ! She was a renowned pianist and organist and asked me what was happening as she knew so many Diocesan priests in whose parishes she gave concerts. She wanted to know why they all seemed to be at odds with their fellow priests in their rectories.
Note: I was sitting in the car when I saw who was saying Mass while my family attended. When they returned they told me it was a good thing I never came in.
“It was scandalous to listen to what the priest was screaming from the pulpit. The best description was a hissy fit against another priest .”
That is why Graham appealed to ex Catholics and why some NO priests thought they should emulate him with the altar calls he was famous for.
As the late Fr Leonard Feeney always said ,after he upheld the Dogma of no salvation outside the Church, “Of course we always believe in God’s Mercy.” But his vocal critics , even the newly Catholic converts , never mention this truth.
No. If all we need to do to avoid hell is to live in ignorance than 1) it is possible to “game” God, 2) Jesus’ command to go and preach the gospel to all nations was optional, unnecessary, and an act of cruelty, and 3) the Catholic Church must be destroyed completely along with all other “Christian” churches, and all memory of Jesus Christ must be eliminated in order that all humanity achieve total ignorance thereby avoiding hell.
When I discovered the truth of the Catholic Faith, my first reaction was anger. I was angry at the Protestant minister whom I listened to for several years. I thought that if I, an ignorant and unlearned person in matters of religion could find the fullness of truth, why couldn’t this man, with all his studying and prayer? It took some time, but I finally realized that a person who loves truth and seeks after it does not stop seeking until he finds it. I may not be Catholic today had I not listened to that Protestant preacher and began my journey.
Bishop Sheen said there are three surprises in Heaven:
1) People we expected to see there, won’t be there.
2) People we knew would not make it, will be there.
3) And the biggest surprise of all, you will be there.
Living in ignorance and willfully living in ignorance are two different things. God knows the difference. He knows who’s trying to “game” Him. And He is merciful to those who do not presume His mercy.
Since EENS (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus) was not anymore the truth for JPII among others, we can expect that JPII in that chit-chat session with Billy, has never mentioned, let alone him seriously called to convert to only true Catholic and Apostolic Church established by our Lord Jesus Christ,… we must think twice about who is the one to be blamed here!? I mean, yes, everyone should and must search the Truth until he find it, but it makes all efforts much heavier when you have the very Vicar of Christ before you and he is telling you how good you are in whatever you’ve been doing…
“And they healed the breach of the daughter of my people disgracefully, saying: Peace, peace: and there was no peace.”
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“Thus saith the Lord: Stand ye on the ways, and see and ask for the old paths which is the good way, and walk ye in it: and you shall find refreshment for your souls. And they said: we will not walk.
And I appointed watchmen over you, saying: Hearken ye to the sound of the trumpet. And they said: We will not hearken.
Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what great things I will do to them.
Hear, O earth: Behold I will bring evils upon this people, the fruits of their own thoughts: because they have not heard my words, and they have cast away my law.” (Jeremiah 6,14;16-19)
Agree 100%. Why cast stones at Billy Graham, of all people? Say a prayer for his soul. Graham was a truer Christian than this Pope, and without ever having had access to the sacraments.
The Bishop of Orange county now resides at the Crystal Cathedral . The new Roman Catholic ecumenical center for Southern California.
The services are like protestant masses with Vineyard Christian Music and all.
They even have prayer over by the carismatice’s after mass. Just in case receiving the Holy Eucharist wasn’t enough!
I think most of the stones being cast here are aimed at the NO V2 false church. Graham is yet another victim who was lied to by the NO V2 anti-Church for 60 years.
Bingo. If God condemns people who have simply met Catholics but don’t convert, what is He going to do to Catholics who have the full truth and sin anyway? And please, don’t anybody talk about a good Protestant “gaming” God with invincible ignorance and then say that a Catholic with a scapular and Last Rights applied when they’re in a deathbed delirium has a ticket to heaven. Reason tells us that a just God couldn’t possibly allow that.
He preached a false gospel that said you are saved no matter what you do…even if you kill someone – it did not matter. Complete and utter bullshit which most of the population has fallen for, included many former Catholics lured out of the Church.
And he was seriously anti-Catholic… a Democrat who supported Richard Nixon against John Kennedy only because the latter was Catholic – and he organized with his fellow protestants to defeat him.
Last Rites
Both JP2 and BG preached a Theological variation of “Salvation by Sentiment”
Both were frauds whether intended or otherwise.
JP2 knew the truth, denied it and preached a lie.
BG knew the lie but believed/deceived himself it to be true.
Same result….millions died outside the Church and consigned to very warm climates.
Both adults. Both educated. Both have unheeded access to information and experts. Therefore Both can not claim ignorance.
Based on all the OTF infallibly teaches, Both chose to teach error, the result of which is hell….with a Pope at the lowest level and highest intensity of warmth.
No one can say so with absolute certainty but then again Jesus and His Mother are pretty reliable preachers of Truth.
May God have mercy on both of them and all those who were/are/continue to be mislead by them.
Mr. Graham had decades to convert to the true Church, outside of which no one can be saved but he remained obstinate till the end. I would think that this was in no small part due to many Catholics that he knew, including the JPII, who told him there was no need to convert in order to save his soul. They were derelict of duty, to say the least. Also, I don’t ever remember hearing him talk about , Our Lady. As the fathers of the Church teach, without some kind of devotion to the glorious Mother of God, no soul will be saved. Period.
Altar call? What’s that?
I also am seeing a lot of adulation towards Billy Graham online, from Catholics and Protestants alike (some are former Protestants). I can understand why the Prots are saying he is in Heaven, but the Catholics? Not so much.
Autocorrect, I think. You’re right.
It is totally puzzling to me why the wonderful holiness of Bergoglio couldn’t convert Graham to the Holy, Roman Catholic Church. O! silly me, I forgot–Bergoglio isn’t Catholic either.
On another comment thread I just read this:
Billy Graham was a scammer, and his target was churches. He was an archetypical wolf in sheep’s clothing. Churches would pay him bank to come and evangelise, would bear all the expenses, do all the organization, in the expectation that they’d get a flood of new tithers.
They’d send their own congregants to be counsellors, and those people would come forward at the altar call, creating the illusion that thousands of people were getting saved. In actual fact, the ground in front of the stage was a sea of christians vainly looking for a non-christian to lead in the sinner’s prayer. I remember it clearly – I was a teenaged “usher” at one of ’em.
I mean – come on. Do you really think that an unsaved person goes to a Billy Graham rally to find Jesus? Or for any reason at all? One or two dragged along by a co-worker or a rello, perhaps, who answers the altar call out of awkward politeness.
Billy Graham is right up there with Mother Teresa.
-and the greatest of these is charity.
ST. JOHN VIANNEY AND THE PROTESTANT
The Cure of Ars once gave a medal to a Protestant who visited him, who exclaimed: “Dear sir, you have given a medal to one who is a heretic, at least I am a heretic from your point of view. But although we are not of the same religion, I hope we shall both one day be in Heaven.” The holy priest took the gentleman’s hand in his own, and giving him a look which seemed to reach his very soul, answered him, “Alas! my friend, we cannot be together in Heaven, unless we have begun to live so in this world. Death makes no change in that. As the tree falls so shall it lie. Jesus Christ has said, ‘He that does not hear the Church, let him be to thee as a heathen and a publican.’ And He said again, ‘There shall be one fold and one shepherd,’ and He made St. Peter the chief shepherd of His flock.” Then, in a voice full of sweetness, he added, “My dear friend, there are not two ways of serving Jesus Christ; there is only one good way, and that is to serve Him as He Himself wishes to be served.” Saying this, the priest left him. But these words sank deeply into the good man’s heart, and led him to renounce the errors in which he had been brought up, and he became a fervent Catholic.
Beautiful. What’s the source?
It is within this yellow page:
https://www.olrl.org/doctrine/execnusa.shtml
Many thanks.
Irenaeus, here’s why this Catholic admired Billy Graham: because Graham believed and preached the basics of Christianity, while the current Pope seems to be an atheist who is intent on destroying the Catholic Church. Another poster here accused Graham of being “anti-Catholic” for backing Nixon over JFK. Give me a break. That was over fifty years ago. I’d say Graham, by the time he died, had shaken off the vestiges of his anti-Catholic upbringing. We Catholics should say a prayer for Billy Graham’s soul and focus on holding the Church together during the reign of Pope Frankie. The swipes taken at Billy Graham by a few posters here baffle me.
The “swipes” against Graham are because he preached wretched heresy for decade after decade after decade after decade after decade after decade, thus leading millions upon tens of millions upon hundreds of millions of souls to hell.
But he seemed like a nice guy.
“There is only one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215)
“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, in the bull, Unam Sanctam, 1302)
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes, and teaches, that none of those who are not within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but Jews, heretics and schismatics, can ever be partakers of eternal life, but are to go into the eternal fire ‘prepared for the devil, and his angels’ (Mt. 25:41)., unless before the close of their lives they shall have entered into that Church; also that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is such that the Church’s sacraments avail only those abiding in that Church, and that fasts, almsdeeds, and other works of piety which play their part in the Christian combat are in her alone productive of eternal rewards; moreover, that no one, no matter what alms he may have given, not even if he were to shed his blood for Christ’s sake, can be saved unless he abide in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” (Mansi, Concilia, xxxi, 1739; Pope Eugene IV, in the bull, Cantate Domino, 1441).
The implications of these pronouncements, taken together, are as follows:
1. All three of these statements are ex cathedra definitions of the Church and of the Pontiffs who made them. (Ex cathedra means that these are infallible teachings of the Church which all persons must believe in order to be saved. These teachings are not subject to change as the popes in making these declarations of faith were guided by the Holy Ghost, Who is unchangeable.)
2. Let the reader accept the reasonable fact that the Pontiffs who pronounced these decrees were perfectly literate and fully cognizant of what they were saying. If there were any need to soften or qualify their meanings, they were quite capable of doing so. They were not regarded as heretics or fanatics at the time of their pronouncements, and have never been labeled such by the Church to this very day. It is an easy thing for the people of this “enlightened” age to fall into the modern delusion that the men of former times, especially those of the Middle Ages, were not as bright as we are, so that they sometimes said they know not what.
3. Since the aforementioned formula (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus) is a doctrine of Catholicity, it is the standard of orthodoxy on the subject of salvation; which is to say, all writers, whether they be saints and/or Doctors, of old or of late, all popes and theologians, of whatever era, and their pronouncements are reliable in their treatment of this subject, if they accept and support it. Their testimony or opinions are useless (at best), if they do not, this regardless of any other contribution they may have made to Catholic erudition. The same must be said of the works of all Catholic writers.
4. Such a dogmatic statement is not to be colored, or reduced, or altered, by reference to the Sacred Scriptures. On the contrary, it is in terms of such a statement that all the Scriptures are to be read and understood.
5. The doctrine determines who has good will and who has bad will. Those who have bad will are in the state of sin. In rejecting God’s accredited word and work, they reveal their true selves: They choose not to be among those of whom Christ spoke when he said: “I know mine, and mine know me.” (Jn. 10:14). When it is responded that certain individuals do not know that what they are hearing is God’s word, the reply is: What is being said demands that careful inquiry be made. If the inquiry is made with the disposition of humility, integrity, and courage, the inquirer will find that the word cannot be denied. No argument or evidence has ever been discovered which will leave the honest man free of the revealed word’s imperative.
6. It is important that the reader who thinks he disagrees with the literal reading of these decrees not throw his hands up in indignation and put this paper aside. It should be obvious that the reason Catholics regard heresy with such horror and alarm is this very doctrine. For if there is salvation outside the Church, what difference does it make whether one is in the Church or out of It, whether one is a heretic in the judgment of the Church or not? Really, if to deny this doctrine is not heresy, there is no such thing as heresy, and it would have been pointless, as well as illogical, for the Church to attach such severe censures to the denial of this or any other doctrine.
7. This dogma rules out the possibility of simple invincible ignorance concerning the matter of salvation; those who die in ignorance of the Church as the only course of salvific grace must be adjudged to have been culpably so. In a word, they did not know because they did not want to know.
“It is a sin to believe that there is salvation outside the Catholic Church.”
-Pope Pius IX
“There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Anyone who resists this truth perishes.”
-St. Louis de Montfort
“We must believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church; hence they who are out of our Church or they who are separated from it, cannot be saved.”
-St. Alphonsus Liguori, Bishop and Doctor of the Church
https://www.olrl.org/doctrine/execnusa.shtml
Yes. This ^^
If Pope John Paul II didn’t bother to try to convert Billy Graham, how would Graham have known that he needed to be Catholic to be saved? And why would God send someone to Hell for not knowing any better? Would Billy Graham really end up after death in the same place as, say, Charles Manson?
Well put. I am stunned by a few posters here who seem certain Billy Graham is in Hell, as if God is incapable of sorting out the subjective differences among people. Especially given the turmoil in the Catholic Church over the past fifty years, it seems strange that any educated, believing Catholic would not hope and believe God would give Graham credit for simply not “knowing better” when it comes to being Protestant instead of Catholic. As I wrote in another post, if Pope John Paul II didn’t try to convert him, how would Graham know that he should be Catholic? Now, after five years with Francis as Pope, we Catholics have even less reason to be smug. Bergoglio is, to put it crudely, a lousy CEO. I could not have imagined a worse leader for the Church. How would any Protestant these days get the message that he or she should join the Catholic Church to save his or her soul, when the leader of the Church speaks almost exclusively about secular events, except occasionally to take swipes at believing Catholics? Again, we should pray for Billy Graham’s soul, and pray our next Pope is more like Graham and less like Bergoglio.
Tom A, your view is sensible and charitable. A few posters here seem to irrationally hostile towards Billy Graham, who always has struck me as sincere and in love with the Lord. Let’s pray for him.
I’m with you, Blunderbuss. Once you become aware that the Church is the Real Thing, the bar is very high. However, many good people, such as Billy Graham, would have no way of ever learning that. I believe God will be merciful towards them.
Just to be clear, AlphonsusJr, you believe that every Jew and Protestant who does not convert to Catholicism goes to hell. Yes or no?
Because I’m not worshiping a God who says to a baptized Catholic abortion doctor who’s killed thousands of babies but repented at the last second “you’re in”, yet tells Billy Graham or a Rabbi who’s lived a good life to go to hell. I don’t understand how you can defend a deity that would do that.
“…And John answered him, Master, we saw a man who does not follow in our company casting out devils in thy name, and we forbade him to do it. But Jesus said, Forbid him no more; no one who does a miracle in my name will lightly speak evil of me. The man who is not against you is on your side.” Mark 9:37-39
“De mortuis nihil nisi bonum.”
Blunderbuss, this is why I take comfort in the belief in Purgatory. I think Purgatory is a place/process where/by which we all make a journey to truth and goodness. Non-Catholics will go through in Purgatory what they need to in order to enter Heaven, as we all hope to.
Not a quote but an application of Thomas Aquinas in more modern words: when you play cards, winning through the whole day, getting loads of money with which you make your last bet – if you bet wrongly you lose everything and you leave empty-handed. You have lost all you had till that moment.
I think a short study of catechism will give us light – it is the death rattle that we can win or lose everything. It is better to behave saintly through the previous life, indeed.
God does not make mistakes. Billy Graham (along with every deceased soul) is exactly where he belongs (Heaven, Hell or Purgatory). As Catholics, it is our obligation to pray for all who have passed on to eternity. This is the Holy Season of Lent. Many graces can be obtained by praying for departed souls. Let’s include Billy Graham in our prayers without passing judgement. He has already been judged by Our Lord. On another topic, I have always felt that “Outside the Catholic Church, there is no salvation” really means “Without the Catholic Church, there is no salvation”. The abundant graces of Holy Mother Church are lifeline to Heaven for all souls, as God sees fit.
Beautiful, brilliant post, my2cents.
Difficult to swallow these days and not for the faint of heart:
“It is a sin to believe that there is salvatin outside the Catholic Church.”
– Venerable Pope Pius IX
“There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Anyone who resists this truth perishes.”
– St. Louis Maria de Montfort
“We must believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church; hence they who are out of our Church or they who are separated from it, cannot be saved.”
– St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori, Bishop and Doctor of the Church
I was struck by the story of Constantine whose mother was St Helena. We are told he had a vision of defeating the enemy by the carrying the Cross as his standard. Yet no one explains why he did not convert till he was on his deathbed. I have read it was because he knew he had to continue to kill his enemies, even relatives. For Catholic Christians he was a hero , but didn’t he “game” the Faith and God with the knowledge that all sins are forgiven with Baptism?
I think he was trying to say something here:
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes, and teaches, that none of those who are not within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but Jews, heretics and schismatics, can ever be partakers of eternal life, but are to go into the eternal fire ‘prepared for the devil, and his angels’ (Mt. 25:41)., unless before the close of their lives they shall have entered into that Church; also that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is such that the Church’s sacraments avail only those abiding in that Church, and that fasts, almsdeeds, and other works of piety which play their part in the Christian combat are in her alone productive of eternal rewards; moreover, that no one, no matter what alms he may have given, not even if he were to shed his blood for Christ’s sake, can be saved unless he abide in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” (Mansi, Concilia, xxxi, 1739; Pope Eugene IV, in the bull, Cantate Domino, 1441).
/\ That’s our faith.
Although many today could explain all this away, thanks be to God I can manage to read it clearly, even after I’ve been vaticantwoed. Also, there must be a good reason why St. Isaac Jogues ran back for more after he had his fingers chewed off. Hmm…what could that be? Let us all pray to such saints as he, who are within our Glorious Catholic Church, which was established by Christ himself, for the conversion of sinners, as soon as the shocking name of Billy Graham hits our ears. It’s the least we could do in memory of the many saints within our Church who were savagely martyred for proclaiming the Truth. Boy, we are weak.
An altar call is going up to the altar as a testimony that you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
” I’d say Graham, by the time he died, had shaken off the vestiges of his anti-Catholic upbringing. ”
Maybe this was due to the Ecumenism coming from the Catholic Church leaders?
So he “liked” us by the end of his life?
Yet it still did not convert him to Catholicism.
Personally I was awe struck by the Orthodox children ( I think they were Copts) who threatened with beheading by Isis held fast and got off the bus professing they were Christians to these savages. Anyone remember that story in the News?
I wonder how many Catholics would do the same ,especially the children who have been so weakly catechized by heretical catechisms some of which were banned thanks to Catholic parents who screamed loudly. I wondered why my daughter never brought home her catechism from Parochial school and then when I pulled her out they gave it to her. To my shock it was this piece of trash.
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/29/us/book-s-popularity-tests-the-vatican.html
No wonder Billy Graham sounds good to her generation of Catholics.
Keep up the fight !
If only Catholics in the State of Grace (meaning only having venial sins at time of death) go to Heaven, then Heaven is the size of Rhode Island. If Billy Graham is in Hell simply because he was not Catholic, he will be in the company of many Catholic Bishops (and priests) who didn’t take the time, energy or give proper example to convert him. That should make him Mad as Hell!
Billy Graham (RIP) is responsible for taking away from the Church thousands, if not millions of Catholics. He and his likes have poisoned the hearts of all the Americas, including the Protestant United States. He and his likes are (were) very clever to take advantage of the ‘havoc’ in the Church, the treason of the consecrated’, of the lukewarm, ignorant, confused and doubtful Catholics. They have traveled all over Europe. When I was growing up in the Communist Poland, we had no Protestant ‘churches’……..only Catholics, Jews and Jehovah’s. Go to Poland today, in the last 40 years………you have every stripe. I know people that when Billy Graham came to Poland with his hirelings……..their target was the ‘youth.’….. how clever! Lots of money went into organizing these ‘mega gatherings’…….brain washing. Just like in South America they offered the young opportunities for the so-called better ‘fellowship with Jesus’, money, jobs, education……in the Protestant Darkness of the Soul.
For the children of darkness are more clever then the children of light………Satan at work!
When will Catholics finally get it……….hatred of heresy! The ‘bible’ that they were studying from, our holy Inquisitors were burning at the stake! The holy Martyrs died for this ‘truth!’
May God have mercy on Billy Graham and his likes, for they knew (know) exactly what they are (were) doing!
May God bless the ‘remnant’ soldier of Jesus Christ! In every age only the ‘remnant’ carried the Torch of the Faith, in His Truth, in fearless Faith!
From Poland–Perhaps, JP2 got the idea for World Youth Day from Graham et al. Does the N.O. V2 “church” know exactly what they are doing to our youth–including molesting them! Doesn’t get much darker than that!!
@my2cents; that was precisely what I meant……’where there’s no hatred of heresy, there’s no holiness’ (Fr. Faber).
I will add to that: ‘where there’s no holiness, there’s no fear of God!’
But let’s not canonize Graham either. He did die outside the faith and lived 99 years, was highly educated and presumably knew his scripture. Yet still he did not reject the errors of protestantism and convert to Catholicism (not even the fake NO version). Only God knows his culpability and the culpability of those who were suppose to warn him of his errors. We can only observe the objective reality that he publically died outside the Church. This fact should impell us to pray for our own families and friends who are not Catholic or have fallen away from the faith. May God have mercy on his soul and on ours.
I think the reason why Graham and other protestant preachers were so successful in converting Catholics is because the NO V2 sect had stopped teaching the Catholic faith. Gone were all the anathemas. Plus when you hear these Prot preaching, they actually invoke the name of Christ. I still recall Trump’s Inauguration when “cardinal” Dolan never mentioned Jesus, yet every heretic preacher couldn’t stop invoke Our Lord’s name. Its no wonder the youth are quickly snapped up by these hucksters.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/m013rpProtestantsChristians.html
Please, Don’t Call Protestants Christians
by Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
“The declared enemies of God and His Church, heretics and schismatics, must be criticized as much as possible, as long as truth is not denied. It is a work of charity to shout: “Here is the wolf!’ when it enters the flock or anywhere else.”…..
St. Francis de Sales, ‘Introduction to the Devout Life’, part III, chpt. 29
It is therefore unlawful, and a profanation, and an act the punishment of which is death, to love to associate with unholy heretics, and to unite yourself to their communion……St. Cyril of Alexandria
For if they have doctrines opposed to ours, it is not fitting to be mixed up with them for this cause alone. […] What do you say? “Their faith is the same; these men are orthodox”? Why, then, are they not with us?…..St. John Chrysostom
We have heard that many, saying they are Catholic, are living a life in common with Jews and pagans […] in diverse errors, maintaining that they are not being harmed. […] A great and deadly error!….Pope Adrian I
It is an illusion to seek the company of sinners on the pretense of reforming them or of converting them; it is far more to be feared that they will spread their poison to us…… St. Gregory Nazianzen
The accursed perversity of heretics […] has so increased that now they exercise their wickedness not in secret, but manifest their error publicly, and win over the weak and simple-minded to their opinion. For this reason, We resolve to cast them, their defenders, and their receivers under anathema, and We forbid under anathema that any one presume to help heretics or to do business with heretics….. III Lateran Council
All is according to His Will! We Catholics the ‘chosen in Christ’, need to learn and ponder about the once ‘chosen of God + the Biblical Jews’…..We, Catholics are not excluded from His Wrath……every generation ‘reaps what we sow’…..
May God grant us the necessary courage to carry the ‘cross!’
Today, there’s no excuse for not knowing our God given Faith…..regardless what is happening in Rome! God is JUST!
FIFTH STATION; Simon the cyrene helps Jesus to carry the Cross (Plinio Correa de Oliveira).
…..excerpt: + How frequent is this scene! In the course of our life, we see the Church, persecuted, beaten, slandered, hated, weak, vacillating, agonizing, and sometimes even betrayed by many who claim to be children of light; whereas in reality, it is divinely strong, like Jesus. But we, with the eyes of our flesh, see only the weakness. So nearsighted is our Faith, that we discern with difficulty the invincible, divine strength that will preserve the Church forever. To our eyes, it seems that the Church will be defeated and die. Should I put my strength, youth, and enthusiasm in the service of this Persecuted One, this Slandered One, this Defeated One? Of course not! We walk away. We are not Cyrenes. We care only for our interests. We will be prosperous lawyers, rich merchants, prestigious engineers, important doctors, famous journalists, or renowned professors. Only on Judgment Day will we understand what we lost when the Holy Church passed our way, and we did not help!
Apostolate, apostolate, apostolate! Apostolate filled with prayer, imbued with sacrifice. It is thus we must be Cyrenes of the Holy Church.
My Lord, make us as faithful to this grace as Simon the Cyrene himself.
O blessed Cyrene, pray for us!
Have mercy on us, Lord!
May the souls of the ‘faithful’ departed through the mercy of God, rest in peace! Amen.
Thank you, thank you, Alphonsusjr for posting this. It should be read over and over and over. Also, in the Syllabus of Errors, the pope wrote that we may not have good hope for those who die outside the Catholic Church. Enough of this ‘sentimental theology’! The freemasons have accomplished their work of instilling indifferentism into every nook and cranny.
I always thought it strange that they (Protestants) referred to it as an “altar call” since there are no altars in their churches, which are of course, for offering the Holy Sacrifice. Of all the Protestant and non-denomination churches I’ve ever seen, they may have an altar rail, but never an altar.
Here’s another one – that sermon of St. Leonard of Port Maurice, where he relayed 2 visions, one in which all but 5 of 33,000 and another in which all but 3 of 60,000 people who died went to hell. Aside from those being rather large daily death numbers relative to the earth’s population at the time, that is a “save rate” of between 0.005% and 0.015%. Every day about 151,600 people die worldwide these days. At these rates, that means only between 8 and 23 people get into heaven each day. I’ll hazard a guess that at least that many are martyred. So my non-martyr chances are effectively zero. And so are yours and everyone else’s whom you know. Do you really think a rational God would die on he Cross so that only 8 people get into heaven each day?
Do you also see how quoting these very old, heavily theological texts written for an ecclesiastical crowd and hyperbolic statements from preachers, and how being a fundamentalist about extra ecclesiam, ignoring Divine mercy, and furiously condemning Billy Graham to hell is a problem? And how this, if anything, drives people away from the Catholic Church? Because honestly if my chances of going to hell are 99.995%, I’m not even going to bother trying.
Divine Mercy……. free will, repent and convert.
The rights of God, above the rights of men!
“Liberty for everyone and everything BUT ERROR (heresy) and SIN!”
(Garcia Moreno, the saintly President of Ecuador).
Louie says: “Billy Graham encouraged countless souls to die as he did without the aid of the sacraments outside the one true Church of Christ.” The N.O. V2 fake church did exactly that while pretending to be Catholic and probably in greater numbers. At least, Graham was honest about who and what he was. I know many family members, friends and neighbors who, out of disgust, have abandoned the local diocesan “churches” and are now attending Protestant services because they find them more “Christ centered”. The local Protestant minister did not go down the aisles of the “catholic church” and kidnap these families from the pews. They went willingly and happily after going from parish to parish only to find ridiculous novelty, false teaching and no sense of reverence or piety. Should Billy Graham be “canonized”? No, but neither should Paul 6 and, of course, JP2. Louie, before you blame Protestants for pulling Catholics away–look at who’s doing the pushing.
He preached indifferentism, so when the Catholic Church became indifferent also, he saw no need and longer to openly criticize it.
my2cents: More truth from you. Graham never beguiled Catholics away from the Church. I know Catholics — I’m one of them — who are more religious Catholics for having been exposed to Graham’s writings and speeches. Any “Catholics” who have become Southern Baptists on account of Graham were vulnerable to becoming apostates because the Catholic Church has been in shambles for the last fifty years. Billy Graham never exploited the parlous state of the Church in the US, although some posters here would have you believe Graham were the cause of the Church’s weakness. Especially during this Dark Age of Pope Francis, the worst CEO imaginable — a Pope who is, in my opinion, an atheist — Catholics have to stop looking for culprits outside the Catholic Church to blame for the state of the Church. “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars/But in ourselves, that we are underlings…” (Cassius, Julius Caesar – Shakespeare)
Hatred of Heresy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCtk_E40f-Y
Yes, Utahagen, I believe that Bergoglio is, at least, a heretic if not a thoroughbred atheist. That is why the sermon posted by AlphonsusJr. below is very timely. Heresy is especially hateful when it comes from the man who claims to be the Vicar of Christ on earth.
Nobody is pushing them into the protestant services, my2cents. They are going of their own free will. They left the best Gift, the Holy Eucharist, Our Blessed Lord Himself, for what? What did Our Lord say? I think He said,”Take up your cross and follow Me.” Apostasy is one sin God is loathe to forgive. (See the notes in the Challoner edition of the Douai-Rheims Bible.) St. Ambrose said in one of his sermons that the Sacraments are necessary for salvation. I, for one, will cling to the Rock and bleed. Our Lord never promised us a crown of roses, but a crown of thorns. And, to the comment from utahagen below, a protest-ant has nothing to say to me. We have the saints, the Fathers of the Church, and the Sacred Scriptures. What can a protestant add to them?
The mangled face of Satan is reproduced in the legions of deformed, hunchbacked, club-footed wills wrought by the Judas Council. Deformed wills are impervious to truth. This is increasingly clear to me.
They left the Novus Ordo protestant V2 sect for another protestant sect. Objectively, Graham promoted the same universal ecumenism that V2 did. I doubt Graham had any success amongst the traditional Catholic crowd.
Yes, Tom A– N.O. to Protestant–a lateral move, for sure. What would St. Ambrose say if he attended the N.O. “mess”? Is this debacle necessary for salvation? The TLM is not available everywhere, thanks to the Second Vatican Council.
AlphonsusJr (and everyone else), have you read about the tweet that the detestable Cardinal Tobin of Newark tweeted and deleted? It read, “Nighty-night, baby. I love you.” After the tweet was deleted, one of Tobin’s minions explained that the tweet had been meant for one of Tobin’s sisters, but was being “misinterpreted”. This story is being widely carried and the comments below the articles are scathing. NOBODY believes this tweet was intended for Tobin’s sister. I shouldn’t chuckle that a Catholic Cardinal is tweeting, “Night-night, baby. I love you” to anyone, but given how obnoxious and gay-obsessed Tobin is, I can’t help myself.
I’m with you. I admit, Billy Graham is in a bit of a special category for me, I’ve heard him all my life. And after observing all the milquetoast men and craven apostates who have infested our church, and also observing the ever-faithful Christian witness of Rev. Billy Graham, I’d throw in with him any day of any week. If God does not deal well with Billy Graham, then I admit I don’t know God at all. He spent his entire life teaching about Christ and bringing millions to Him. There is no hint of scandal or otherwise attached to him. By all indications he was faithful to what he understood Jesus expected of him. That has to count for something. I admit, I don’t know, and I do believe Catholicism is the religion God intended for us.
But compare this man, with pretty much any of our apostate clergy, unfaithful to what they were taught.
May God have mercy on the soul of Billy Graham, and us as well.
I’m certain that Billy Graham impacted my search for God during my life for the better. No American certainly, unchurched, could avoid him in the 50’s or 60’s. There can be no doubt but that millions were influenced by him even by happenstance, to reconsider the path they were on.
I agree, I am absolutely positive Billy Graham influenced me for the good. I was a young know nothing, a complete pagan, and his was the only voice in our secular world that was undoubtedly Christian, and his confident and forceful manner of proclaiming the Gospel, the dire realities of denying it, were laid out before us many times. You could hardly grow up in the America then and avoid it! Not like now, where any voice of faith would be drowned out in the cacophony that passes for “culture”. Billy Graham may not have been Catholic, but he preached an undeniable message with passion and all assurance, unless you know Jesus Christ before you die, you are lost, and one second after that last breath, it will be too late. That message managed to penetrate many a thick, young noggin, God be praised for it, and start them on a journey of a lifetime. I ask and plead for God to be merciful to the soul of Billy Graham, and me, because I find that I know so little.
He was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. As such he was instrumental in leading my mother’s half of the family to hell. They all greatly admired him and, because of the teaching of Graham and others of his ilk, felt quite sure they didn’t need to become Catholics.
Let’s also not forget that Graham was very much a friend of the perfidious Jews.
It’s really amazing. From praise of Prot wolves like Graham to softness against sodomite perverts to softness against those of the Christ killing tribe, the diabolical disorientation displayed even among readers here is quite appalling. Satan has indeed assumed his throne in this world. His followers often signal their allegiance to him–witting or not–via wretched sentimentality and false compassion.
Blunder, your chances of going to heaven are 100% if you die in a state of grace.
If Graham has any chance of salvation, it will not be from his decades of works spreading his version of Christianity. Objectively, he earned absolutely no spiritual merits having been outside the Church. No, if he makes it to heaven, it will be by some special grace that was given to him by Our Lord prior to death where he was able to renounce his errors and enter the Church. Barring this event, our faith teaches that his lifetime of works were meaningless and he is eternally lost. Our sentiments cannot change this objective reality. If we do not believe this harsh reality, then there is no point in being Catholic.
Billy Graham is exactly where he belongs according to God’s will. Speculating on his eternity is presumption. Let’s pray that God’s grace helps all of us get to Heaven.
“No, if he makes it to heaven, it will be by some special grace that was given to him by Our Lord prior to death where he was able to renounce his errors and enter the Church.”
Exactly!!!
There will only be Catholics in Heaven. Only Catholics who die in the state of grace can enter Heaven. That is what is meant by the dogma Outside the Church there is no salvation. Those who are Catholics but remain outside the state of grace when they die cannot enter Heaven. Those who are non-Catholics and remain outside the Church when they die cannot enter Heaven. Period. End of discussion. Anyone who pretends to be Catholic and yet teaches that outside the Church there is salvation or reinterprets the dogma to mean something other than what it originally meant is a heretic. Period. End of discussion.
We should never judge a person’s conscience as to subjective culpability (obviously judging a person’s behavior as to objective sinfulness is a different matter) for the Lord Himself teaches us that we are not to judge lest we be judged. Objectively speaking, Billy Graham probably died outside the Church and if he did he cannot enter Heaven. However, subjectively speaking, Billy Graham may have been invincibly ignorant which would move the Lord to offer him a chance to become Catholic at the moment of death. If at that moment, Billy Graham rejected his Protestant errors and accepted entering the Church then he entered Heaven. But, if Billy Graham was not invincibly ignorant then the Lord would not be moved to offer him that special final grace to enter the Church at the moment of death.
Without faith in Jesus Christ one cannot enter Heaven. The true faith in Jesus Christ is the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Faith (ie., is inside the Church). That true faith has the corresponding good works (i.e, adheres to the Natural and Divine Law and the Church’s Precepts and avoids mortal sin).
No one who does not have faith in Jesus Christ can enter Heaven.
No one who professes faith in Jesus Christ but who does not profess the Catholic Faith can enter Heaven.
No one who professes faith in Jesus Christ and who professes the Catholic Faith but who does not evidences the corresponding good works can enter Heaven.
All three things are essential for salvation. Good works alone will not get one into Heaven. Being a member of the Church alone will not get one into Heaven. Having faith in Jesus Christ alone will not get one into Heaven. All three things are necessary; not one or even two but all three.
This is the ordinary way for men to be able to enter Heaven. The exception or extraordinary way is for those who are invincibly ignorant wherein the Lord will give them a final grace to accept the Faith at the moment of death.
Since we do not know who is and who is not subjectively culpable of what is an objectively mortal sin and who is and who is not invincibly ignorant it is best to pray for the souls of all; living and dead.
It is also best to remember to work our own salvation, as St. Paul counsels, in fear and trembling. The Lord Himself has told us that only a few will be saved and the Saints have echoed this throughout the centuries.
Philippians 2:12-13: “Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed – not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence – continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”
Matthew 7:13-14 13: “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”
“Billy Graham (RIP) is responsible for taking away from the Church thousands, if not millions of Catholics.”
Indeed, and a invincible ignorance does not negate it.
What is the driving purpose of Protestantism, from day one? To steer people clear of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, so loathsome to M. Luther.
Billy G. in 1982 and again in 1984 denied there was any religious persecution in the Soviet Union; and he had a doctorate?!? Did not our our Lady speak of errors coming out of atheistic materialism? 60 million Christians murdered by the Communist system. But, Billy spoke with such passion, so let’s give him a pass.
Best evidence is that he, along with every other TV evangelist, are high ranking Freemasons. Billy was on top of his game at 33°.
Sr. Lucy said it’s Our Lady or Satan; when are we going to draw the line?
“Best evidence is that he, along with every other TV evangelist, are high ranking Freemasons.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPhAVnbeOuo
Billy Graham Exposed (Full Documentary)
….excerpt from ‘No King but Caesar’ by Hugh Akins
“Freemasonry, Talmudic and Kabalistic Judaism, is the single most lethal secret society in the world. Protestantism must also assume its fair share of the responsibility for the centuries of decline and decay it has wrought.
If history proves anything it proves that Protestantism is a revolt against the teachings of Our Lord and is therefore not Christian.
…..while America was certainly influenced by Roman Catholicism for the up-building of a just and orderly society, she came to be dominated by Protestant secularism, Masonic naturalism and sheer materialism for its accelerated dissolution.”
May those who have ‘eyes’ SEE! +++ and those who have ‘ears’ HEAR!
His soul has already been judged.
God is merciful to all His creatures. But He also just. Mercy does not exist without justice. Justice is simply cruelty without mercy.
Amen.
Amen. And hatred of heresy means condemning Francis’s constant public attacks on God Almighty, the Holy Faith and morals whilst purporting to be a successor to Peter. Ignoring same and pretending to one’s parishioners or one’s diocese or one’s children (as priest or bishop or parent) that nothing is wrong, when it is horrifically so, is the most grave dereliction of duty and a public affront to God.