By this time tomorrow, I will probably be practically cross-eyed after having already labored for several hours through the text of Amoris Laetitia…
Even though all speculation concerning the document’s contents will be put to rest in less-than 24 hours, lying awake last night thinking about the coming storm (yea… this stuff literally keeps me awake at night), a topic came to mind that doesn’t seem to be getting much attention.
Before I share it with you, remember who we’re talking about here: The humble Bishop of Rome who has a history of floating trial balloons; not in order to tailor his opinions and desires to the minds of others, but that he might gauge the prevailing winds in order to determine when and how best to enforce his ironclad will.
DATELINE: February 16, 2016
During the in-flight press conference en route to Rome from Mexico City, Pope Francis floated a veritable Hindenburg. To paraphrase:
In certain cases; for example, as it concerns the risks associated with the Zika virus, avoiding pregnancy is not an absolute evil.
The following day, Fr. Federico Lombardi clarified the pope’s intent, saying:
“The contraceptive or condom, in particular cases of emergency or gravity, could be the object of discernment in a serious case of conscience. This is what the Pope said.”
This explosion which rendered Catholic moral doctrine a mass of smoking wreckage took place was more than six weeks ago, and still one waits in vain for the preponderance of the world’s bishops – even among those who heretofore enjoyed a solid (albeit, obviously undeserved) reputation for being staunchly “pro-life” – to cry out in unison:
Oh the Humanae Vitae!
Did the Jesuit-in-white take this as a sign that the time is ripe to encourage pastors to mercifully accompany couples in a journey of “pastoral discernment” regarding the use of contraception and condoms?
Bear in mind, my friends, this is the same pope who, during yet another in-flight press conference (this one in January of 2015), recounted the following heartwarming story for our edification:
“I reprimanded a woman in a parish a few months ago because she was pregnant with her eighth after seven cesarean sections. But she wants to leave seven orphans? This is to tempt God. There is talk of responsible parenthood. That is the way: responsible parenthood.”
You may recall that this is the same press conference wherein Francis went on to make his infamous breeding like “rabbits” comments.
We will know tomorrow if indeed Amoris Laetitia opens wide the door to contraception and condoms in the name of “responsible parenthood,” but if it does, be not surprised, either by it or by the deafening episcopal silence that will most certainly follow.
Oh great, now I’m not to going to be able to sleep tonight. Primary purpose of marriage, primary purpose of marriage Louie! It all goes back to this rejection and tampering with the primary purpose of marriage. Oh the Humanae Death of it all indeed!
Agreed on all counts!
That “primary purpose” is gone from the minds of the men in Rome.
Sleep will definitely be hard to come by tonight. The press conference is set for 11:30 am Rome time – 5:30 am eastern. I hope the doc is available then as opposed to making us wait until after the spin job… I mean, the briefing is over.
I imagine it will be just as all the rest of these post Vatican-II ambiguous “pastoral” documents: Each bishop interpret it as they see fit. Oh, but in the spirit of Vatican II.
And life will go on as usual at all the NO churches this weekend. Everyone will have been well rested and completely clueless as to what has occurred. Smiling, arm up relaxing on the back of the pew, toe tappin to the music and dropping Our Lord on the floor. Priests will say nothing, and I’ll be praying the rosary…in The Twilight Zone.
I have a question, hopefully someone here can point me to the right Papal teachings, Michael Voris always teaches his followers that no Catholic should criticize a sitting Pope publicly, he even gave out Francis’ email address so whoever has problem with his moral teachings can write him instead of talking to his children, spouse, priests or other Catholics. He did not say what authority supports his teachings. I assume it is Matthew 18:15-16. Is this proper Scriptures to use when a Pope teaches heresy? The late Fr. Gruner said something I think he was using this Scriptures, in defending the post Vatican II popes might not be “manifested” Popes, he said one of the Doctors (maybe St. Robert Bellarmine) taught that if a Pope teaches heresy, a bishop should bring with him two other bishops and asked the Pope if he knows what he teaches is heresy and if the Pope made clear he knows what he teaches is heresy then he is no longer the Pope. But does that apply to laity like us too? My understanding is one of Latin America bishops who was removed by Francis waited for 3 days to talk to him but Francis had no time for him because he was busy praying with pagans and Muslims. So what is the chance an average Catholic have a face time with the Holy Father? The Church would not ask us to do the impossible right? Another area of relevant Scriptures would be St. Paul resisting St. Peter to his face. (Galatian 2:11) Does that apply to any subject to his superior or only the bishops (St. Paul was one of the Apostles not laity)? I read in a priest’s blog also said a Catholic can criticize a priest or bishop publicly but not the Pope so it is not only Voris, I wonder what the Church teaching on it. Anyone knows?
Plant Your Vatican II, post Synod Garden
Plant four rows of squash:
Squash the liturgy
Plant four rows of lettuce:
Lettuce be loving
Lettuce be kind
Lettuce forget God
Lettuce worship man
No garden without turnips:
Turnip for meetings
Turnip for service
Turnip to help one another
Water freely with sacrilege and blasphemy
Expect rotting fruit in your garden
Because you reap what you sow.
It’s called the Decree of Gratian: “Whose sins [the Pope] no mortal man presumes to rebuke, for he shall judge all and is to be judged by no one, unless he is suddenly caught deviating from the Faith”.
The last line has been mysteriously left off in modern times.
Louie, you may take some comfort to know that the Pontifical Council for Damage Control will not be getting too much sleep either. They have to work overtime to make this document sound at least somewhat “catholic”. Good Luck!!!
Ann Barnhardt at http://www.barnhardt.biz says she’s read it and it’s horrific. Paragraphs 186, 79, 302, 303 and 311 are the heart of the poison.
A good friend of mine gave me some good advice: We know we have the Faith as handed down by Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium. When one of those is confusing to the Catholic, he should look to the other two for guidance. Right now the Magisterium is teaching confusion and contradiction, so I look to Scripture and Sacred Tradition to find my way. The key standard I measure any novelty against is to ask: ” is this novelty consistent with that which has been taught and believed always and everywhere by everyone?” When times are as confusing as they are now; what the living Magisterium should be doing is searching in the past, for scriptural and traditional backing in favor of its present thought. Conflicts are to be rejected. Progress in theology , and more precise clarifications in knowledge of the faith certainly cannot consist in the addition of information that is opposed to the past, and certainly not any complete change of ideas, especially changes opposing the very words of Jesus Christ. What is believed and taught must always be consistent with what has always been believed and taught. But of course this takes a curious mind willing to search the past.
Michael F Poulin
Peace and blessings.
Summary of Amoris Laetitia
Thanks. Louie said he will go through it on Friday. I wonder what Francis meant by “too many conditions for mercy”.
Thanks but if we (bishops or laity) judge the Pope “caught deviating from the Faith”, aren’t we judging the Pope then? I thought as Supreme Teacher and Pastor indicated in Vatican I shouldn’t he the one to judge he or others in “deviating” from the Faith?
Thanks. Someone actually has the patient to read it.
Yeah, but she’ll still call him a pope. Thats the problem….good people lend this evil person credence by acknowledging him for something he cant possibly be. As Ive opined before here, I think one of these false popes would literally have to say that God isnt real, or some other such blatant insanity, for people to wake up.
Its as if there are different degrees of heresy and as long as you arent too big of a heretic its ok.
If the “pope” tomorrow says that Christ is not God (for example), are we supposed to stand by like a bunch of idiots? How is mr bergoglio possibly a supreme teacher of Catholicism? Why, because a bunch of other vatican 2 wastes voted him in?
The rub is that he can only be judged by his peers. The chances of that happening are zero to none. So we are back where we started. The diabolic disorientation has permeated the Church as Our Lady of Fatima predicted.
A pope cant be judged by anyone….a true pope has no earthly peers. There is no Catholic basis for a pope to be judged…its an impossibility. The insane idea that a pope can be “put on trial” to determine whether or not he is a heretic is a made up bunch of nonsense. He either is a pope or he is not a pope.
Rich, do you have a link to Salvemur’s blog?
Also, I just read the bird-cage liner exhortation this morning. Briefly tell me about attending Mass with the SSPV, what their standing is, is it like SSPX’s standing, is it “valid but illicit” and all that. Thank you.
If you are referring to Salvemur who used to post here Im unaware if she has a blog. I can tell you where she posts if that is what you need. As far as the SSPV I have never attended a mass there….I couldnt even tell you where their chapels are. I briefly attended mass at an SSPX chapel in NJ but due to personal convictions I had to stop.
Cortez, these are my exact thoughts also. The average Catholic in the N.O. couldn’t care less about this document because the vast majority was never even aware there was a Synod. The document is a tool of the Modernist Church to continue to protestantize the Catholic Church. Their mission is almost complete. Traditionalists and traditional minded Catholics are concerned because they see what is at stake, while the vast majority of Catholics remain clueless. This is what the Modernists want. We must all keep praying the Rosary!
Apparently mr bergoglio (aka pope jiminy cricket) is saying that we (flawed human beings who are predisposed to sin) should let our consciences be our guide. Who needs a Catholic Church when our conscience will suffice?
“Too many conditions for mercy” can mean whatever you (or any other Catholic) wants it to mean. That’s how ambiguous modernism works. Whatever one “feels” it to mean is just fine. No absolute truth; truth is what we feel it to be. Our conscience can now decide.
I imagine that Cardinal Mueller is going to have a tough time with this.
It will be interesting to see what the German bishops take it to mean.
Poor Francis and his band of effeminate men…Our Lady gave him the remedy at Fatima…and yes I know we aren’t bound to believe private revelation, (seventy five thousand people witnessing the miracle of the sun wasn’t exactly private). If Only the men of the church would listen and obey….Louie wouldn’t be putting in hours of torturous reading and disceminating modernist garbage. No where in any of Our Lady’s messages does She speak about accompaniment ….A fav buzzword of these buffoons…….on the other hand She did bother to briefly show the children of Fatima HELL where the souls of poor sinners go….and an amazing merciful remedy to assist souls from that horrific end. Another bit of info given by Our Lady …..that God would punish the world unless men stopped offending Him. So much time wasted on this pathetic exhortation……enumerable souls lost in the balance.
“A pope cant be judged by anyone….a true pope has no earthly peers. There is no Catholic basis for a pope to be judged” Could you cite authority on this statement? How about St. Athanasius who rejected his ex communication and continued to consecrate bishops and ordained priests, did he not indeed judge Pope Liberius’ order to be unjust? And the same thing applies to St. Sophronius against Pope Honorius. God Bless!