By now, most readers have read the cockle warming story about Pope Francis stopping the pope mobile this past Wednesday in St. Peter’s Square in order to bid an Argentinian priest, Fr. Fabian Baez, to climb on board.
According to Catholic News Service:
Father Fabian Baez … told La Nacion that he shouted “Santo Padre” to get the pope’s attention. The pope saw the priest, made his driver stop the popemobile and gestured to him to come see him. They waited until the priest could make it past the people in front of him, the large wooden barricade and security. As you can see in the video, the two hugged warmly, the pope asked if he were by himself and when he said, “Yes,” told him, “Come! Get on!” and take a seat next to the papal assistant.
Most commentators in the media, Catholic and otherwise, are positively giddy about this latest episode in the pontificate of he who apparently prefers to remain just a “regular Jorge.” (One exception being Damian Goddard.)
I for one have mixed feelings about it.
While it remains deeply troubling to witness the Sovereign Pontiff fiddling with whims superficial even as Rome continues to burn, if the alternative is yet another papal locution that compels Jimmy Aiken to concoct a new installment of “Ten Things Pope Francis Really Meant to Say in Spite of What He Actually Said,” then by all means, Holy Father, stay on that pope mobile and scoop up all the hitchhikers it can handle while us Neo-Pelagians count Rosaries for the intention of securing a Maccabean style miracle wherein the vehicle never runs out of gas.
That said, there is one aspect to this story that is of considerable significance:
As the priest clambers on, the pope rightly tells him: “The picture will go around the world.”
Well then… so much for the preposterous notion that the Bishop of Rome is humbly unaware that his every utterance and gesture, including that growing body of work otherwise known as “a new genre of papal speech that’s deliberately informal and not concerned with precision,” are almost instantly dispatched for global consumption.
What this indicates is that even the most casual of Pope Francis’ remarks; i.e., those so often excused as “off the cuff,” offered innocuously, and somehow undeserving of scrutiny, are nothing of the kind.
They are, to be sure, the operations of a media savvy pope who is far more sly than his deliberately made-to-appear-simple public persona may suggest; a man on a mission, fully cognizant that the mic never grows cold and more than adept at using it to methodically go about the work of preparing the people of the world to accept the vision of the Church that he intends to bring to fruition.
So let me get this correct. The Pope is being driven around St.Peter’s Square when he spots a friend in the crowd of pilgrims attending the weekly outdoor audience and the Pope allows his friend to exit the crowd and clamber on to his vehicle, while he (the Pope) is supposed to be greeting pilgrims to the Vatican.
If this anecdote has been correctly reported, even if the Pope meant well, his actions send out completely the wrong signal to a watching world audience.
Oh, Lord give us strength…
Assuming you have done your homework,Louie, and this is factual, this pope is not that “off the cuff”, open mouth insert foot, extemporaneous, he didn’t mean that, thinking only of the poor pope! The devil can direct lies only so long and then the HS jumps in and out pops a truth. Hasn’t anyone figured that out yet . Don’t mess with Almighty God. Stupid,stupid,stupid!!!
Read the CNN article and immediately marveled at the “humility” of he who is so humble warning the humble hitchhiker that he will also be in the news–as if he didn’t already know this?
So, the assumption is that he IS very much aware of the world’s eye on him. I have felt for some time now, and perhaps this article was all I needed, to come to my own conclusion that he “stages encounters”. Is he only seeking out the disabled and seemingly down on their luck types intentionally to “bestow” kisses? I always thought those photos looked forced.
There is a reason why they say that there is no fool like an old fool.
BTW, great selection blogs in your Blogroll. A one stop shop of Catholic sanity.
Vatican Hires Global Firms to Modernize Communications, Accounting
“(…) McKinsey will work on integrating the Vatican’s numerous media outlets, including newspaper, television and radio, so that the organization will be “more functional, efficient and modern.”
This consulting work will allow the commission—comprising seven laypeople and one member of the clergy—to make recommendations to Pope Francis on better communications. (…)”
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304866904579268163741288016
Vatican hires world’s leading pro-homosexual corporations as advisors
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/engel/140101
Louie: One more link suggestion. WikkiMissa. A great site to find a Latin Mass when one is on the road and can’t locate a SSPX chapel in the area. Link here:
http://honneurs.free.fr/Wikini/wakka.php?wiki=PagePrincipalEn.
PS The page is actually quite inspirational. It was not that long ago that there were no Latin Masses, anywhere (1984) outside the SSPX. And look now!
Too bad novusordowatch.org is not on the blogroll list. Learned tons lately about the true nature of the heresies perpetrated by the conciliar church.
Well, it certinly warmed my cockles, and now I’ll pause to pray for that Maccabean-style miracle.
“The picture will go around the world.”’
It seems he is very aware.
And now news comes from Rome
http://chiesaepostconcilio.blogspot.com/2014/01/signore-da-chi-andremo.html
that priests who want to say or continue to say the TLM are being threatened with the loss of their 8 x mille, which is a monthly sum equivalent to about half their salary/pension.
Make no mistake, Bergoglio is about to persecute the whole Church.
Dear Catholic at Rome,
Would you be able to translate the article you referenced in your comment into English? I do not speak Italian.
Thank you so much.
With this Pope, every day is a “Kodak moment”! He is chipping away at the dignity of the papacy. Does he even know that he is the Vicar of Christ??? He is going to be a tough act to follow if the next Pope is truly holy!! Please, God!
1. The Pope really ought to resume the use of the sedia gestatoria IMHO.
2. As to this incident: I don’t see the problem. Messing with the Liturgy to make gestures is very problematic indeed. Panreligionism at Assisi likewise. This, by contrast, seems like very small beer indeed. What am I missing ? And what is wrong message that his action sent out ?
I consider myself to be a Conservative and Traditional minded Catholic and I too am concerned about the FFI and things he has said. However I honestly don’t know what is wrong with this particular incident mostly for security reasons I would think. No concerns for his safety and security just how undignified and how a regular George he is. I think I finally get it know. You are only concerned about his image and dignity as Pope but what did Jesus say the greatest of all the Law was LOVE one another. I don’t see any hint even of respect for him on this website. When he said SOURPUSSES I guess he was talking about you guys. Jesus is the CENTER OF OUR Church NOT the POPE.
The BoR is just a regular politician. Catch the microphone and camara at every opportunity and off you go promoting yourself as, What exactly? Just like Obama and his ilk. Hope and change, we are gonna have us a NewChurch! Alleluia.
Sheena, most of us would like to keep Jesus as the center of our Church, not the pope and not Man. Unfortunately the Holy Father does contradict himself frequently, but he always makes it a point to put down ordinary, praying Catholics. Of course people are concerned for his health—perhaps he should not put his guards in such a dangerous position—and we have to keep praying for him. But we don’t have to like everything he does.
Sheena………Jesus Christ established a Catholic Church, with a hierarchy to teach and govern the faithful. Is it true or not, that these conciliar popes, have devastated God’s Vineyard……..millions of lost souls! Do you get it? The mission of this holy Church was always to save souls……….Do these popes ever preach about saving souls? About conversion to the One True Faith? Do they preach that Jesus Christ is THE KING of kings, and THE LORD of lords? Are they not guilty of forcing on the faithful their ‘novus ordo mess’……..lying for decades that the MASS OF ALL TIMES, is no longer allowed………MISERERE! Have they not destroyed the Altar of God, with their miserable ‘table’? Have they not reduced The True Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist to a symbol…..to please the heretics, the Jews, the infidels…….and every stripe? They have made a ‘mockery’ of HOLINESS and SACRED! How about praying with the ‘no longer chosen’ for the coming of the (who???)……..I cannot even write this any more……it’s is the most ‘unimaginable evil’…….MISERERE!
Speaking of disobedience to GOD………Lord Have Mercy!
For these popes, the world is their stage, Oh, how they love to smile to the world, make funny faces, kissing the children, the sick, so the world say……how his ‘humbleness’ is sooooo humble…………….they are the main actors in this ‘fatal play’, only God Knows the ending………Thanks Be To God!
We live in a very disturbing times, only ‘remnant’ understands what evil is happening……the rest is either ignorant or simply a supporters of these evils……
Thanks Be To God!
.There’s a reason why St. Paul warned us…..to work out our salvation with fear and trembling…….especially today…….when we have to discern if the Pope is speaking as a Catholic or as a ”an average Joe”…………
We are our brothers keepers……….Souls are falling to hell as we speak……..Truth must be preached, must be defended, must be protected……..ERROR must be rebuked, and despised………Error, false flattery, false ecumenism, and heresy is NOT CATHOLIC! There’s a terrible persecution on those who are followers of ‘truth’………so be it……this is their hour of darkness!
We may be ‘sourpusses’ by his and your standard……..but, with Jesus and Mary we taste nothing but ‘sweetness’……..but, how would you know!
Jesus Mary save us, lest we all perish!!!
This may be of interest:
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/01/straight-talk-from-benedict-appointee.html
It’s as weird as his impassive appearance on the balcony. “The whole world will see this.” God help us.
There is only s many allowances which one can make. This incident in St.Peters square has for some reason resonated with me more than the other controversies. Perhaps it is a culmination of controversies on my part.
Where I am told that I should see humility, I see vanity.
Where I am told that I should see inobtrusiveness, I see showmanship.
Where I am told that I should see someone not interested in worldly material, I see a man using public property to give his friend a lift during a worshipful event.
This incident rankles with me. I have run out of patience with this Pope.
I know that it is wrong to be angry, but Francis is sorely testing me and us all.
I read that the Argentinian priest is a devotee of Medjugorje.
Thank you. I couldn’t agree more. Every time he kisses a (figurative) leper, I smell a calculated photo op. Otherwise, why not do these things without the cameras present? I call it “The Hermeneutic of BS.”
Just to let you know, that there’s no more Ars Orandi blog……David threw his computer out the window……a path for all of us to follow, the computer is truly a playground for the devil. To save our soul is what we should desire above all. Hell is for the devil and his followers……..who is who is Known Only to God! Let us not be a ‘peons’ of the devil…….he is a master of manipulating our minds and our hearts………let us be closer to Jesus and Mary, THEY are our best FRIENDS…….with friends like that, who can be damned?
Heaven is our true destination……Let us pray and hope that we’ll all meet in one of the Mansions of Our Father, Who art in Heaven…….
God bless,
Halina
For those of us who are not going to be throwing their “computer out the window” any time soon, (sorry Halina, I just couldn’t reisist – mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa) if for no other reason than without it we would not be able to earn our daily bread, the following article should be of interest. Link here: http://osbnorcia.org/2014/01/04/liturgicallaw.
With respect to the subject matter, and how BXVI will be viewed in the annals of Catholic history, I would just say the following: the gift of Summorum Pontificum which BXVI gave to the Bride of Christ, should be a satisfactory act of contrition for any and all previous modernist sins of the said wretched sinner.
Our Lady of Victory, ora pro nobis.
This interview with Fr Malachi Martin might interest readers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5TVHteYpSM&feature=youtu.be
@ 12:35 mark
“We have apostates who are PAPABILI. YES, WE COULD HAVE AN APOSTATE “POPE…IT WOULD TEST THE FAITH OF THE GREATEST SAINT…”
I believe all the signs are pointing that His Humbleness Mr Bergoglio is the apostate that Fr Martin talked about. And of course an apostate “pope” is no pope at all since he can clearly not be a member of the mystical body of Christ and much less its head. I don’t believe this merely because of the aforementioned interview, as I’ve reached this conclusión for some months now having only found the interview very recently.
So, dear brothers and sisters in the faith, buckle up tightly ’cause it’s gonna be a wild ride with Jorge “the Humble” these next few years. Don’t let his apparent shows of humility upset you: this evil man has been sent by God as a well deserved punishment for our sins. I agree with Ann Barnhardt that, if anything, it would shake my faith to see that despite our enormous sins, the Lord did not show His great displeasure at us by allowing us to be led by false “shepherds”.
Cling to your rosaries, cling to your scapulars, trust in the Lord. Cover yourselves under the mantle of Our Immaculate Mother, refuge of sinners. Do not lose hope, Our Lord will ultimately be victorious and Our Lady will trample the Serpent’s head!
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“I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.” Genesis 3:15
“But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved” Matthew 24:13
“For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.: Matthew 24:24
“These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world.” John 16:33
Here’s another story that implys the same message
http://mundabor.wordpress.com/2014/01/08/the-thing-with-the-poverty/
Dear Armaticus……your sincerity, and our hate of heresy…… I cannot resist…..so, let us fight the good fight… Omnia Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
Below is crystal clear, why we have to expose the evil of our times……..in the Holy Church……..
Pius XI Refutes
Vatican II’s ‘Sinning Church’
Continuing with the texts that show the flagrant contradiction between the past papal Magisterium and the present Vatican progressivist orientation, we spotlight the text with which Pope Pius XI closed his Encyclical Mortalium animos. In it he prohibited ecumenism with heretics and schismatics and refuted the thesis of Ecclesia semper reformanda and the “Sinning Church,” defended today by the conciliar Popes.
Pope Pius XI
Thus, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics. There is but one way in which the unity of Christians may be fostered, and that is by furthering the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from her; for from that one true Church they have in the past fallen away. The one Church of Christ is visible to all, and will remain, according to the will of her Author, exactly the same as He instituted her.
The mystical Spouse of Christ has never in the course of centuries been contaminated, nor in the future can she ever be, as Cyprian bears witness: ‘The Bride of Christ cannot become false to her Spouse, she is inviolate and pure. She knows but one dwelling and chastely and modestly she guards the sanctity of the nuptial chamber.’ (De Catholicae Ecclesiae unitate, 6).
The same holy martyr marveled that anyone could believe that ‘this unity [of the Church], fruit of divine stability and consolidated by the heavenly Sacraments, could ever be broken by the shock of discordant wills’. For since the Mystical Body of Christ, like His physical body, is one (1 Cor. 12:12), compacted, and fitly joined together (Eph 4:16), it is foolish to say that the Mystical Body is composed of disjointed and scattered members. Whosoever, therefore, is not united with the body is no member thereof, neither is he in communion with Christ her Head.
(Pius XI, Encyclical Mortalium animos, of January 6, 1928
Paris: Bonne Presse, 1928, vol. 4, p.. 77-79)
Pius XI Refutes
John Paul II’s Ut Unum Sint
It is remarkable how Pope Pius XI describes and refutes in detail the wrong position on ecumenism synthesized in the phrase Ut unum sint. This refutation is particularly accurate when applied to JPII’s encyclical Ut unum sint, which adopts most of the condemned positions. Read the text below, compare and reach your own conclusions.
Pope Pius XI
And here it is opportune to expound and to refute an error which lies at the root of this whole question and from which proceeds the activity and multiple efforts of non-Catholics to bring about the union … of Christian churches. Toward this aim, the authors of that project have the habit of quoting the words of Christ, ‘that they all may be one [ut unum sint] … and there shall be one fold and one shepherd (Jn 17:21),’ as if, to their understanding, the prayer and the desire of Christ had not yet been carried out until today.
For they hold that the unity of Faith and government, which is the note of the one true Church, has up to the present time hardly ever existed, and does not exist today; that this unity is indeed to be desired and realized, at times by a common understanding of wills, but that it is necessary, notwithstanding, to consider it as a type of utopia.
They add that the Church by her nature is divided, that is, composed of innumerable churches or distinct communities which still remain separate, and although they hold in common some points of doctrine, nevertheless they differ concerning the remainder. Each church, according to them, enjoys the same rights. …
Hence, they say, controversies, even long-standing ones, and doctrinal differences, which still today continue to divide them, must be forgotten and set aside. And, with regard to other doctrinal truths, it is necessary to propose and draw up a certain rule of common faith. In this profession of faith … they may feel themselves to be true brothers. …
Such, Venerable Brethren, is the common contention. … But they immediately go on to say that this Roman Church, too, has erred and corrupted the primitive religion by adding to it a certain number of doctrines not only foreign but contrary to the Gospel, and imposing them on the Faith of the faithful. Chief among these they cite that of the primacy of jurisdiction granted to Peter and to his successors in the See of Rome [and they praise secondary aspects of the Papacy]. …
However, even while you may hear many non-Catholics loudly preaching brotherly communion in Jesus Christ, yet not one will you find who thinks of submitting to the Vicar of Christ in what he teaches or of obeying what he commands. They assert that they prefer to deal with the Church of Rome on equal terms, as equals with an equal. In reality, however, if they propose some eventual accord, it is not with the intention of renouncing those same opinions that hold them, still today, in their errors and deviations, outside the one fold of Christ.
In these conditions, it is evident that the Apostolic See cannot under any pretext take part in these [inter-confessional] assemblies; nor do Catholics have any right to favor such enterprises by their support or action. If they did so, they would be attributing authority to a false religion, entirely alien to the one Church of Christ. How could we tolerate that the truth, above all the revealed truth, be made a subject for compromise? This would be the apex of iniquity. …
How can it be allowed that the object of Faith become in the process of time so dim and uncertain that we should tolerate these contradictory opinions? If this were so, then we should have to admit that the coming of the Holy Ghost upon the Apostles, the perpetual indwelling of the same Spirit in the Church, and even the preaching of Jesus Christ Himself many centuries ago would have lost all their efficacy and value. To affirm this would be blasphemy. …
These pan-Christians who strive for the union of the churches would appear to pursue the noblest of ideals in promoting charity among all Christians. But how can one imagine that this growth of charity be made to the detriment of the Faith? Everyone knows that St. John himself, the Apostle of charity … absolutely forbade any relationship with those who did not profess the doctrine of Christ pure and entire: ‘If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house, nor say to him, God speed you’ (Jn 1:10). Therefore, since the foundation of charity is Faith pure and inviolate, unity of Faith should be, as a consequence, the principal bond that unites the disciples of Christ.
How, then, can one conceive of the possibility of a Christian pact, in which each member would have the right, even in questions of Faith, to retain his own way of seeing and thinking, even when it would be in contradiction with the opinions of the others?
One Who Enters into Ecumenism
Abandons True Religion
Contrary to what the Conciliar Popes have been teaching for the last 50 years, the previous Popes always condemned Ecumenism. In this section titled Forgotten Truths, we will be posting excerpts from this magnificent Pontifical doctrine for the perusal of our readers.
Responding to the first ecumenical encounters in Catholic ambiences, Pope Pius XI published the Encyclical Mortalium animos in 1928. In it he ratified the immutable position of the Pontifical Magisterium in defense of the unity of the Faith and the unicity of the Catholic Church. He reaffirmed the position of fight that Catholics must take in face of ecumenical endeavors. He qualified such initiatives as “pan-Christian,” “blasphemous,” and destructive of the true Faith. Further, he held them to be trailblazers to religious Indifferentism and Modernism.
In the text below, Pius XI condemns the nascent ecumenical attempts.
Pope Pius XI
Knowing perfectly that there exist few men who are entirely devoid of the religious sense, they [the men who are trying to introduce a sentiment of universal fraternity into the Church] nourish the hope that all the peoples, despite their religious differences, may yet, without great difficulty, be united in the profession of certain doctrines admitted as a common basis of the spiritual life.
With this object, they promote congresses, meetings, and conferences, attended by a considerable number of hearers. To join in the discussion they invite all, without distinction, unbelievers of every kind as well as the faithful, and even those who have disgracefully separated themselves from Christ or rudely and obstinately denied the divinity of His nature and mission. Such efforts can meet with no kind of approval among Catholics, because they support the erroneous opinion that all the religions are more or less good and praiseworthy. …
Those who hold such a view fall into an open error; they also reject the true Religion; they distort its tenets and fall gradually into Naturalism and Atheism. Therefore, it is perfectly evident that one who joins with the partisans and propagators of similar doctrine abandons entirely the divinely revealed Religion.”
(Pius XI, Encyclical Mortalium animos, of January 6, 1928
Paris: Bonne Presse, 1928, vol. 4, pp. 64-5)
(Pius XI, Encyclical Mortalium animos, of January 6, 1928
Paris: Bonne Presse, 1928, vol. 4, pp. 64-5)
Ecumenism is Synonymous with
Religious Indifferentism
Today, Ecumenism and Inter-Religious Dialogue have become synonymous with the general line followed by the Pontiffs since Vatican II. Indeed, one could well say that nothing has been more straightforward than the Vatican policy of developing relations among religions. In these relations, there is no concern about the truth, and even less concern about bringing the followers of those false religions to the bosom of the Catholic Church in order to profess the unique true Faith. On the contrary, the conciliar Popes have virtually forbidden any effort to convert schismatics, heretics, Jews and pagans.
This position, however, is clearly opposed to Catholic Dogma and the Pontifical Ordinary Magisterium of the past. As an example of this constant teaching, we offer an excerpt from the Encyclical Singulari quidem, in which Pope Pius IX strongly condemned Ecumenism, then identified by the expression Religious Indifferentism.
Pope Pius IX
You well know, Beloved Sons and Venerable Brethren, that among the many deplorable evils which disturb and afflict principally the ecclesiastical and civil society, two stand out in our day and are justly considered to be the origin of the others.
In effect, you are aware of the innumerable and fatal damages which the terrible error of Indifferentism causes to Christian and civil society. It causes us to forget our duties to God in Whom we live and act and have our being. It causes us to lose our concern about our Holy Religion and destroys almost to the very foundation all law, justice, and virtue.
There is little difference between this most vile form of indifference and the demonic system of indifference between the different religions. According to this system, those who have strayed from the truth, who are enemies of the true Faith and forget their own salvation, and who teach contradictory beliefs which never had stable doctrine, admit no distinction among the different creeds. Rather, they make a pact with everyone, and defend that the haven of eternal salvation is open to the followers of all religions, whatever they might be. They do not care about the diversity of their doctrines as long as they agree to combat the one that is the unique truth.
You see, Beloved Sons and Venerable Brethren, how much vigilance is needed to keep the disease of this terrible evil from infecting and miserably killing your flocks. DO NOT CEASE TO DILIGENTLY DEFEND YOUR PEOPLE AGAINST THESE PERNICIOUS ERRORS…….
Catholics Should Not Collaborate
with Non-Catholics
In this post-conciliar era, we see Catholic Prelates everywhere promoting ecumenical initiatives in which members of different religions collaborate in social, cultural or ecological projects or to help the victims of some catastrophe. Even many ‘Catholic’ pro-life groups – especially for the youth – have become inter-confessional. St Pius X condemned this inter-confessional practice that was inaugurated by the Modernist movement of the Sillon in France. He wrote the Encyclical Our Apostolic Mandate condemning that movement. Among the points he censured is the tactic of common ground among Catholics and non-Catholics.
St. Pius X.
For the construction of the city of the future, all workers from all religions and all sects were convoked. Nothing other was asked of them but this: that they embrace the same social ideal, respect all creeds and bring with them a great supply of moral energy.
Admittedly, it was proclaimed, ‘The leaders of the Sillon … ask everyone … not to oppose each other on account of the philosophical or religious convictions that may separate them, but to march hand in hand, not renouncing their convictions, but trying to provide, on the ground of practical realities, the proof of the excellence of their personal convictions. Perhaps unity may come about on this ground of emulation among souls holding different religious or philosophical convictions.’ …
Thus, a host of new groups – Catholic, Protestant, free-thinkers – at present apparently autonomous, are invited to set to work: ‘Catholic comrades will make an effort … to instruct and educate themselves. Protestants and free-thinking democrats will do likewise on their side. But all of us – Catholics, Protestants and free-thinkers – will aim at arming the youth not for a fratricidal struggle, but for a disinterested emulation in the field of civic and social virtues.’
These declarations [of Marc Sangnier, leader of Sillon] and this new organization of the Sillonist action call for very serious remarks.
Here we have, founded by Catholics, an inter-denominational association that aims to work for the reform of civilization, an undertaking above all religious in character. …
This being said, what are we to think about the promiscuity in which young Catholics will be caught up with the heterodox and unbelievers of all kind in a work of this nature? … What are we to think of this respect for all errors and of this strange invitation made by a Catholic to all the dissidents to strengthen their convictions through study to give them ever more abundant sources of fresh forces? What are we to think of an association in which all religions and even Free-Thought may express themselves openly and in complete freedom? For the Sillonists … certainly do not intend to prevent a Protestant from asserting his Protestantism, and the skeptic from affirming his skepticism. Finally, what are we to think of a Catholic who, on entering his study group, leaves his Catholicism outside the door so as not to alarm his fellow comrades. …
Alas, yes, the equivocation is revealed: The social action of Sillon is no longer Catholic. The Sillonist as such does not work for a faction, and ‘the Church,’ he says, ‘cannot in any sense benefit from the sympathies his action may stimulate.’ A strange insinuation, indeed! …
Even stranger, however, and at the same time unsettling and alarming, are the audacity and frivolity of men who call themselves Catholics and dream of re-shaping society under such conditions, and of establishing on earth, over and above the Catholic Church, ‘the kingdom of justice and love’ with workers coming from everywhere, of all religions or no religion, with or without beliefs, as long as they set aside what might divide them. …
The end result of this promiscuity in process, the beneficiary of this cosmopolitan social action, can only be a democracy that will be neither Catholic, nor Protestant, nor Jewish. It will be a religion (for Sillonism, as its leaders admit, is a religion) more universal than the Catholic Church, uniting all men, finally become brothers and comrades in the ‘kingdom of God.’ [As they say,] ‘We do not work for the Church, we work for mankind.’
And now, overwhelmed with the deepest sorrow, We ask ourselves, Venerable Brethren, what has become of the Catholicism of the Sillon? Alas! this movement that once offered such promising hopes … now is no more than a miserable tributary of the great movement of apostasy being organized in all countries for the establishment of a One-World Church, which will have neither dogmas nor hierarchy, neither discipline for the mind nor curb for the passions, and which, under the pretext of liberty and human dignity, would bring back to the world (should it triumph) the reign of legalized fraud and violence, and the oppression of the weak and all those who toil and suffer.
(St. Pius X, Apostolic Letter Notre Charge Apostolique
Petrópolis: Vozes, 1953, nns. 30-33)
Neither Charity nor ‘Martyrdom’ Can Win
Salvation for Non-Catholics
The heresy of universal salvation has never been so broadly and profoundly preached and believed as it is in our times. Therefore, it seems opportune to remind our readers of the text of the Bull Cantate Domino by Pope Eugene IV (February 4, 1442), confirmed by the Council of Florence. It clearly states that neither works of charity nor even the ‘martyrdom’ of non-Catholics is of any avail for their salvation. If they do not enter the Catholic Church, they will go to Hell.
Pope Eugene IV
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot have a share in eternal happiness; but that they will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the Devil and his Angels (Matt 25: 41), unless they unite themselves to the Church before their death; and that so precious is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those who abide in it can benefit from the Church’s Sacraments for their salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militancy. NO ONE, no matter how much he has given in alms and even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, UNLESS he has persevered in the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”
(Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino, Denzinger n. 714)
(Encyclical Singulari quidem §§ 3-4)
I’d say it’s a good thing Father Fabian came to visit in January instead of April. It would be hard for two to fit on the donkey.
“We do not hesitate to affirm publicly that We put great confidence in the Holy Rosary for the healing of evils which afflict our times.”……….Pope Pius XII
How to Address Protestants and Schismatics
In our post-Vatican II times, we hear talk every day that we Catholics should adapt to the errors/heresies of the Protestant and Schismatics in order to achieve ecumenical unity. In fact, Vatican II avoided at all costs emphasizing the truths that conflicted with the religious beliefs of the non-Catholic observers invited to be present at the Council.
It seems very opportune to recall how Pope Pius IX, who also invited non-Catholic observers to be present at Vatican Council I, addressed them in the initial allocution of that Council, calling them to abandon their errors and enter the only true Religion, the Catholic Church. Here we have a clear contrast between the false and true positions regarding Protestants and Schismatics.
Pius IX
“No one can deny or doubt that this Jesus Christ, in order to apply the fruits of His Redemption to all generations of man, has built here on earth, upon Peter, His one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church; and that He conferred upon her the power necessary to preserve whole and inviolate the deposit of Faith, and to transmit this same Faith to all peoples, tribes and nations, so that all men be united in her Mystcal Body through Baptism. … Wherefore, this Church, which constitutes His Mystical Body, will persist and prosper in her stable and immutable nature until the end of time …
“Whoever carefully considers and studies the situation of the various religious communities, divided amongst themselves and separated from the Catholic Church … will be easily convinced that none of these associations – whether considered individually or taken as a whole – can in any way be seen as that One Catholic Church that Christ the Lord built and willed to exist. Neither can they in any way be considered members or part of this same Church, as long as they remain visibly separated from Catholic unity. It follows that such communities, lacking the living authority established by God to teach men – especially in Morals and matters of Faith and customs, directing and governing them in all that concerns eternal salvation – thus mutate in their doctrines and are constantly changing and instable. …
“For this reason, let all those who do not possess ‘the communion and the truth of the Catholic Church’ take advantage of this Council, in which she … offers a further demonstration of her profound unity and impregnable vital force; and responding to the demands of their hearts, let them strive to leave this state that does not guarantee for them the security of salvation.”
(Pius IX, Apostolic Letter Iam vos omnes
Religious Liberty, a ‘Monstrous Right’
In our days, when we have Vatican II and the conciliar Popes upholding the revolutionary principle of religious liberty, it is good for us to remember that this is an anti-Catholic principle. Popes who followed the bi-millennial tradition of the Church condemned it and taught the opposite. Pope Pius VI, a contemporary of the French Revolution when religious liberty was first installed as a civil right, is quite explicit in his unqualified condemnation of it. He calls it a “monstrous right,” and an “imaginary dream.” TIA deems it useful to offer this document to its readers.
Pope Pius VI
The necessary effect of the constitution decreed by the Assembly is to annihilate the Catholic Religion and, with her, the obedience owed to Kings. With this purpose it establishes as a right of man in society this absolute liberty that not only insures the right to be indifferent to religious opinions, but also grants full license to freely think, speak, write and even print whatever one wishes on religious matters – even the most disordered imaginings. It is a monstrous right, which the Assembly claims, however, results from equality and the natural liberties of all men.
But what could be more unwise than to establish among men this equality and this uncontrolled liberty, which stifles all reason, the most precious gift nature gave to man, the one that distinguishes him from animals?
After creating man in a place filled with delectable things, didn’t God threaten him with death should he eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil? And with this first prohibition didn’t He establish limits to his liberty? When, after man disobeyed the command and thereby incurred guilt, didn’t God impose new obligations on him through Moses? And even though he left to man’s free will the choice between good and evil, didn’t God provide him with precepts and commandments that could save him “if he would observe them”? …
Where then, is this liberty of thinking and acting that the Assembly grants to man in society as an indisputable natural right? Is this invented right not contrary to the right of the Supreme Creator to whom we owe our existence and all that we have? Can we ignore the fact that man was not created for himself alone, but to be helpful to his neighbor? …
Man should use his reason first of all to recognize his Sovereign Maker, honoring Him and admiring Him, and submitting his entire person to Him. For, from his childhood, he should be submissive to those who are superior to him in age; he should be governed and instructed by their lessons, order his life according to their laws of reason, society and religion. This inflated equality and liberty, therefore, are for him, from the moment he is born, no more than imaginary dreams and senseless words.
Pius VI, Brief Quod aliquantum, of March 10, 1791,
in Recueil des Allocutions, Paris: Adrien Leclere, 1865, pp. 53-55.
of September 13, 1868 – DS 2997-2999
Ecumenism is Synonymous with
Religious Indifferentism
Today, Ecumenism and Inter-Religious Dialogue have become synonymous with the general line followed by the Pontiffs since Vatican II. Indeed, one could well say that nothing has been more straightforward than the Vatican policy of developing relations among religions. In these relations, there is no concern about the truth, and even less concern about bringing the followers of those false religions to the bosom of the Catholic Church in order to profess the unique true Faith. On the contrary, the conciliar Popes have virtually forbidden any effort to convert schismatics, heretics, Jews and pagans.
This position, however, is clearly opposed to Catholic Dogma and the Pontifical Ordinary Magisterium of the past. As an example of this constant teaching, we offer an excerpt from the Encyclical Singulari quidem, in which Pope Pius IX strongly condemned Ecumenism, then identified by the expression Religious Indifferentism.
Pope Pius IX
You well know, Beloved Sons and Venerable Brethren, that among the many deplorable evils which disturb and afflict principally the ecclesiastical and civil society, two stand out in our day and are justly considered to be the origin of the others.
In effect, you are aware of the innumerable and fatal damages which the terrible error of Indifferentism causes to Christian and civil society. It causes us to forget our duties to God in Whom we live and act and have our being. It causes us to lose our concern about our Holy Religion and destroys almost to the very foundation all law, justice, and virtue.
There is little difference between this most vile form of indifference and the demonic system of indifference between the different religions. According to this system, those who have strayed from the truth, who are enemies of the true Faith and forget their own salvation, and who teach contradictory beliefs which never had stable doctrine, admit no distinction among the different creeds. Rather, they make a pact with everyone, and defend that the haven of eternal salvation is open to the followers of all religions, whatever they might be. They do not care about the diversity of their doctrines as long as they agree to combat the one that is the unique truth.
You see, Beloved Sons and Venerable Brethen, how much vigilance is needed to keep the disease of this terrible evil from infecting and miserably killing your flocks. Do not cease to diligently defend your people against these pernicious errors.
Catholics Should Not Collaborate
with Non-Catholics
In this post-conciliar era, we see Catholic Prelates everywhere promoting ecumenical initiatives in which members of different religions collaborate in social, cultural or ecological projects or to help the victims of some catastrophe. Even many ‘Catholic’ pro-life groups – especially for the youth – have become inter-confessional. St Pius X condemned this inter-confessional practice that was inaugurated by the Modernist movement of the Sillon in France. He wrote the Encyclical Our Apostolic Mandate condemning that movement. Among the points he censured is the tactic of common ground among Catholics and non-Catholics.
St. Pius X.
For the construction of the city of the future, all workers from all religions and all sects were convoked. Nothing other was asked of them but this: that they embrace the same social ideal, respect all creeds and bring with them a great supply of moral energy.
Admittedly, it was proclaimed, ‘The leaders of the Sillon … ask everyone … not to oppose each other on account of the philosophical or religious convictions that may separate them, but to march hand in hand, not renouncing their convictions, but trying to provide, on the ground of practical realities, the proof of the excellence of their personal convictions. Perhaps unity may come about on this ground of emulation among souls holding different religious or philosophical convictions.’ …
Thus, a host of new groups – Catholic, Protestant, free-thinkers – at present apparently autonomous, are invited to set to work: ‘Catholic comrades will make an effort … to instruct and educate themselves. Protestants and free-thinking democrats will do likewise on their side. But all of us – Catholics, Protestants and free-thinkers – will aim at arming the youth not for a fratricidal struggle, but for a disinterested emulation in the field of civic and social virtues.’
These declarations [of Marc Sangnier, leader of Sillon] and this new organization of the Sillonist action call for very serious remarks.
Here we have, founded by Catholics, an inter-denominational association that aims to work for the reform of civilization, an undertaking above all religious in character. …
This being said, what are we to think about the promiscuity in which young Catholics will be caught up with the heterodox and unbelievers of all kind in a work of this nature? … What are we to think of this respect for all errors and of this strange invitation made by a Catholic to all the dissidents to strengthen their convictions through study to give them ever more abundant sources of fresh forces? What are we to think of an association in which all religions and even Free-Thought may express themselves openly and in complete freedom? For the Sillonists … certainly do not intend to prevent a Protestant from asserting his Protestantism, and the skeptic from affirming his skepticism. Finally, what are we to think of a Catholic who, on entering his study group, leaves his Catholicism outside the door so as not to alarm his fellow comrades. …
Alas, yes, the equivocation is revealed: The social action of Sillon is no longer Catholic. The Sillonist as such does not work for a faction, and ‘the Church,’ he says, ‘cannot in any sense benefit from the sympathies his action may stimulate.’ A strange insinuation, indeed! …
Even stranger, however, and at the same time unsettling and alarming, are the audacity and frivolity of men who call themselves Catholics and dream of re-shaping society under such conditions, and of establishing on earth, over and above the Catholic Church, ‘the kingdom of justice and love’ with workers coming from everywhere, of all religions or no religion, with or without beliefs, as long as they set aside what might divide them. …
The end result of this promiscuity in process, the beneficiary of this cosmopolitan social action, can only be a democracy that will be neither Catholic, nor Protestant, nor Jewish. It will be a religion (for Sillonism, as its leaders admit, is a religion) more universal than the Catholic Church, uniting all men, finally become brothers and comrades in the ‘kingdom of God.’ [As they say,] ‘We do not work for the Church, we work for mankind.’
And now, overwhelmed with the deepest sorrow, We ask ourselves, Venerable Brethren, what has become of the Catholicism of the Sillon? Alas! this movement that once offered such promising hopes … now is no more than a miserable tributary of the great movement of apostasy being organized in all countries for the establishment of a One-World Church, which will have neither dogmas nor hierarchy, neither discipline for the mind nor curb for the passions, and which, under the pretext of liberty and human dignity, would bring back to the world (should it triumph) the reign of legalized fraud and violence, and the oppression of the weak and all those who toil and suffer.
(St. Pius X, Apostolic Letter Notre Charge Apostolique
Petrópolis: Vozes, 1953, nns. 30-33)
Neither Charity nor ‘Martyrdom’ Can Win
Salvation for Non-Catholics
The heresy of universal salvation has never been so broadly and profoundly preached and believed as it is in our times. Therefore, it seems opportune to remind our readers of the text of the Bull Cantate Domino by Pope Eugene IV (February 4, 1442), confirmed by the Council of Florence. It clearly states that neither works of charity nor even the ‘martyrdom’ of non-Catholics is of any avail for their salvation. If they do not enter the Catholic Church, they will go to Hell.
Pope Eugene IV
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot have a share in eternal happiness; but that they will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the Devil and his Angels (Matt 25: 41), unless they unite themselves to the Church before their death; and that so precious is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those who abide in it can benefit from the Church’s Sacraments for their salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militancy. No one, no matter how much he has given in alms and even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has persevered in the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”
(Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino, Denzinger n. 714)
(Encyclical Singulari quidem §§ 3-4)
How to Address Protestants and Schismatics
In our post-Vatican II times, we hear talk every day that we Catholics should adapt to the errors/heresies of the Protestant and Schismatics in order to achieve ecumenical unity. In fact, Vatican II avoided at all costs emphasizing the truths that conflicted with the religious beliefs of the non-Catholic observers invited to be present at the Council.
It seems very opportune to recall how Pope Pius IX, who also invited non-Catholic observers to be present at Vatican Council I, addressed them in the initial allocution of that Council, calling them to abandon their errors and enter the only true Religion, the Catholic Church. Here we have a clear contrast between the false and true positions regarding Protestants and Schismatics.
Pius IX
“No one can deny or doubt that this Jesus Christ, in order to apply the fruits of His Redemption to all generations of man, has built here on earth, upon Peter, His one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church; and that He conferred upon her the power necessary to preserve whole and inviolate the deposit of Faith, and to transmit this same Faith to all peoples, tribes and nations, so that all men be united in her Mystcal Body through Baptism. … Wherefore, this Church, which constitutes His Mystical Body, will persist and prosper in her stable and immutable nature until the end of time …
“Whoever carefully considers and studies the situation of the various religious communities, divided amongst themselves and separated from the Catholic Church … will be easily convinced that none of these associations – whether considered individually or taken as a whole – can in any way be seen as that One Catholic Church that Christ the Lord built and willed to exist. Neither can they in any way be considered members or part of this same Church, as long as they remain visibly separated from Catholic unity. It follows that such communities, lacking the living authority established by God to teach men – especially in Morals and matters of Faith and customs, directing and governing them in all that concerns eternal salvation – thus mutate in their doctrines and are constantly changing and instable. …
“For this reason, let all those who do not possess ‘the communion and the truth of the Catholic Church’ take advantage of this Council, in which she … offers a further demonstration of her profound unity and impregnable vital force; and responding to the demands of their hearts, let them strive to leave this state that does not guarantee for them the security of salvation.”
(Pius IX, Apostolic Letter Iam vos omnes
Religious Liberty, a ‘Monstrous Right’
In our days, when we have Vatican II and the conciliar Popes upholding the revolutionary principle of religious liberty, it is good for us to remember that this is an anti-Catholic principle. Popes who followed the bi-millennial tradition of the Church condemned it and taught the opposite. Pope Pius VI, a contemporary of the French Revolution when religious liberty was first installed as a civil right, is quite explicit in his unqualified condemnation of it. He calls it a “monstrous right,” and an “imaginary dream.” TIA deems it useful to offer this document to its readers.
Pope Pius VI
The necessary effect of the constitution decreed by the Assembly is to annihilate the Catholic Religion and, with her, the obedience owed to Kings. With this purpose it establishes as a right of man in society this absolute liberty that not only insures the right to be indifferent to religious opinions, but also grants full license to freely think, speak, write and even print whatever one wishes on religious matters – even the most disordered imaginings. It is a monstrous right, which the Assembly claims, however, results from equality and the natural liberties of all men.
But what could be more unwise than to establish among men this equality and this uncontrolled liberty, which stifles all reason, the most precious gift nature gave to man, the one that distinguishes him from animals?
After creating man in a place filled with delectable things, didn’t God threaten him with death should he eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil? And with this first prohibition didn’t He establish limits to his liberty? When, after man disobeyed the command and thereby incurred guilt, didn’t God impose new obligations on him through Moses? And even though he left to man’s free will the choice between good and evil, didn’t God provide him with precepts and commandments that could save him “if he would observe them”? …
Where then, is this liberty of thinking and acting that the Assembly grants to man in society as an indisputable natural right? Is this invented right not contrary to the right of the Supreme Creator to whom we owe our existence and all that we have? Can we ignore the fact that man was not created for himself alone, but to be helpful to his neighbor? …
Man should use his reason first of all to recognize his Sovereign Maker, honoring Him and admiring Him, and submitting his entire person to Him. For, from his childhood, he should be submissive to those who are superior to him in age; he should be governed and instructed by their lessons, order his life according to their laws of reason, society and religion. This inflated equality and liberty, therefore, are for him, from the moment he is born, no more than imaginary dreams and senseless words.
Pius VI, Brief Quod aliquantum, of March 10, 1791,
in Recueil des Allocutions, Paris: Adrien Leclere, 1865, pp. 53-55.
of September 13, 1868 – DS 2997-2999 )
The Church’s Rigor against Heresies
In today’s general atmosphere of ecumenism, it seems quite opportune to recall the third canon of the Fourth Lateran Council that rigorously excommunicates the crimes of heresy and suspicion of heresy. It magnificently reminds us of the militancy of the Catholic Church, which has been fraudulently concealed after Vatican II. This canon is like a stroke of lightning in the sky that purifies the atmosphere and allows us to see in the dark storm.
Fourth Lateran Council (1215)
We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy that raises itself up against this holy, orthodox and Catholic Faith that we have just expounded. We condemn all heretics under any name whatsoever they may use. For, if their faces are different, their tails are all tied together by their pride. Once condemned, let them be handed over to the secular powers to receive their due punishment; or if they are members of the clergy, let them first be degraded from their orders. The goods of the lay heretics are to be confiscated, and that of clerics to be given to the churches from which they received their stipends.
Those who are only found suspect of heresy are to be excommunicated, unless they prove their innocence by an appropriate penance … and if they persist in this state for one year, they are to be condemned as heretics.
Let the secular authorities be warned and, if necessary, compelled by ecclesiastical censure, to publicly swear that they will expel from their lands all heretics designated by the Church. If a temporal lord, once admonished, neglects to purge his lands of them, he will be excommunicated by the Metropolitan and other co-provincials. If he refuses to give satisfaction within one year, the Sovereign Pontiff will be warned of this so that he can release his vassals of their oath of fidelity and offer his lands to be conquered by Catholics so that they, after expelling the heretics, may possess and preserve them in the purity of the Faith, preserving the right of the overlord [suzerain of the punished one] provided that he raises no obstacles to the execution of this decree. The same law is to be observed regarding those who do not have an overlord.
Catholics who take the cross for the expulsion of heretics shall enjoy the same indulgence as is granted to those who go to the fight in the Holy Land.
(Apud Rohrbacher,
Histoire Universelle de l’Eglise Catholique,
1885, vol. 7.1.71, p. 385)
A Catholic Must Have No Relations with Heretics
In a country like the United Sates with a Protestant majority, it is useful to know the true Catholic doctrine on how a Catholic should avoid relations with them unless such relations deal with religious topics with the aim of converting them.
St. Thomas Aquinas, with his customary clarity and solid argumentation, is today more timely than ever in order to combat the false Ecumenism that invaded the Catholic Church principally after Vatican II.
St. Thomas Aquinas
For two reasons one must not maintain relations with heretics. First, because of their excommunication since one must not have relations with excommunicated persons. Second, because of their heresy, and this for three reasons:
First, because of the danger that our relations may come to corrupt others, according to what is taught in the First Epistle to the Corinthians: ‘Evil communications corrupt good manners.’ (15: 33).
Second, to not appear that one gives any approval to their perverse doctrines. In the second Epistle of St. John it is said: ‘If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him: God speed you. For he that saith unto him: God speed you, communicateth with his wicked works’ (1:10-11). Regarding this verse, the Gloss comments: ‘To talk with someone reveals communion, unless the talk is a duplicity, which should not occur among Catholics.’
Third, in order that our familiarity [with heretics] does not provide occasion to err for others. Another Gloss comments on this passage of St. John: “Even if you are not taken in by the heretic, seeing your familiarity with him, others can be fooled imagining that you take pleasure from such relations and believe in him.’ Still a third Gloss adds: ‘The Apostles and Disciples exercised such great vigilance in religious matters that they did not even have an exchange of words with those who had removed themselves from the truth.’
The exception to this rule is when someone speaks about salvation with a heretic with the intention to save him.
(St. Thomas Aquinas, Quaestionis quodlibetales
[spontaneous questions], quodlibeto 10, q. 7, a. 1, 15, c.)
…..please, forgive me……I got careless again…….
You think he’d give father Manelli a ride in the pope mobile?
Forgive me but I sensed he was acting a part at first sight. This is not a VERY important incident, considering the wreckage to Catholicsm done over the past 10 months. But nonetheless it reveals something of the character of the man.
Only 10 months? Golly it seems like an eternity since Benedict..
Being called a sourpuss from the present Bishop of Rome, I would consider a compliment, Sheena! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Louie – thanks for yet another insightful observation. My gut feeling tells me you are right. If that’s so, the ramifications can only be deeply disturbing.
Halina – have you ever considered setting up your own blogsite? You seem to have such a wealth of information and are obviously keen to impart it to true Catholics.
Happy New Year to all! Wonder what 2014 has in store???
Message January 21, 2012 about the False Prophet that would replace pope Benedict.
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/false-prophet-will-be-treated-like-a-living-saint-those-who-oppose-him-will-be-considered-a-heretic/
TITLE: “False Prophet will be treated like a living Saint. Those who oppose him will be considered heretics.”
EXCERPT: “One sign to look out for will be his pride and arrogance hidden behind an exterior false humility. So fooled will My children be that they will think he is an exceptional and pure soul.”
Interesting: http://crownofstars.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-fabulous-gift-for-fr-fabian.html
Promoted leading bishop from the Legionaires of Christ? Check!
Shared spotlight with Medjurgorge devotee? Check!
Shifted congregation of bishops hard to center-left? Check!
Used ad orientem to give himself a traditionalist vaccine? Check!
Rinse, wash, repeat.
I thought it was a great gesture from a truly great Pope.
Seems rather snarky to pick at such a simple thing.
Surely there are unbaptized babies out there you can see
escorted to hell?
He(Bergoglio)is NOT Truly Catholic. Pray for his Conversion.
One Order which is a Secular Institute, though played up as “Conservative” is the 1st Ecumenical Order which was permitted to accept Non Catholic Members in the form of Cooperators is Opus Dei.
Within 17 Years of the Death of the Founder, Msgr Jose Maria Escriva Y Balaguer, he was declared a Saint by Pope John Paul II in 1992.
This is contrary to our history as Preconciliar Pope’s knew the Dangers of all the False Ecumenism, part of the False god of Liberty, leading to Gross Indifference on the part of the Catholic Faithful.
And This Pope is an Egotistical Show Off.
This incident – like so many others shows that he is more than savvy at setting up “spontaneous” incidents which he uses for his own agenda. Good grief he used a portaloo 4 yards away from the crowd who took selfies of themselves with the pope exiting the tiny toilet right behind them while he tidied his apparel……. and all while his bodyguards were laughing out loud! Such lack of dignity is appalling and inexcusable.