There’s a new dust up taking place in Catholic circles (and even some Protestant ones) thanks to the “catechesis” offered by Francis during his Wednesday Audience this week.
Speaking of God the Father, he said:
“It is He who cannot be without us. This is a great mystery: God cannot be God without man. This is a great mystery.”
Of course, this isn’t really so much a “great mystery” as a great heresy; so great, in fact, that very few Catholics if any beyond the age of reason actually believe it.
And guess what?
Neither does Francis.
Far be it for me to defend His Humbleness, but…
Though I certainly won’t go so far as to say that this is no big deal, if we’re honest we have to admit that the bumbling old Jesuit was simply getting a little too cute in trying to titillate his adoring fans by making the point that God will never abandon us; even when we are convinced that He has.
This much seems fairly obvious from the context of his comments.
In other words, no one really believes that Francis was attempting to change either the immutable doctrine of the Church, Divine Law, or the bi-millennial practices that flow directly from them.
That, however, is precisely what he is doing in Amoris Laetitia, the blasphemies and heresies of which are being widely accepted as truth and actively employed; not just by under-nourished laypersons, but by entire bishops’ conferences.
My point is simply this:
The idea that God cannot be God without man is just plain absurd; so much so that one would be hard pressed to make the case that it represents a clear and present danger to souls.
And yet, the buzz created by it over the last few days seems to exceed that which is attributable to Amoris Laetitia over the last several months.
This being so, when I read about the “fiery debate” that has ensued among theologians in the aftermath of Wednesday’s carnival act, some it coming from Catholic theology professors, and I encounter Catholic clerics on social media expressing outrage over Francis’ latest stupefying act of stupidity, I can’t help but see fiddlers fiddling whilst Rome burns to the ground.
With every passing day, Amoris Laetitia is getting more and more deeply ingrained in the life of the Church and, in this case, countless souls are most certainly being misled; some of them all the way to Hell.
A mere ten days from today, the much discussed dubia will celebrate its ninth month in existence and it has yet to give birth to anything other than some meaningless conversation. At this point, even that has died down to a veritable whisper.
With this in mind, it seems pretty obvious that we have a priority problem, and by “we” I really mean those in authority.
Consider:
Two of the four Dubia Brothers recently found time in their busy schedules to speak at a multi-day conference in Rome. Good for them! One of the two then departed the Eternal City for Milan where he was booked to appear for a similar gig. God love him!
Has it ever occurred to these men that while they’re out there traveling the celebrity circuit, the flame-throwing heretic author of Amoris Laetitia is still happily setting fire to the Church practically unmolested?
Maybe it’s time for us to send a dubium to the Dubia Brothers:
DUBIUM:
Do you guys really give a rat’s rectum or not?
Yes, the pressure to act immediately & call for an imperfect council to declare PF the heretic he is should be placed firmly on the shoulders of the four Dubia Brothers & their hidden, silent supporters all protecting their own backs. Attending conferences, giving tv interviews, leading pilgrimages, celebrating TLM here & there is not getting the necessary removal job done. PF has effectively changed Catholic Doctrine when he changed the praxis to what he terms a more pastoral outlook. He has in one fell sweep put Holy Matrimony on the same platform as civil marriage, made the Eucharist into a biscuit anyone can take as long as they are accompanied by priests who are reluctant to offer them the Sacred Host without prior confession & the promise to amend their lives. As a result those who are refused Holy Communion without repentance will be able to complain to the Bishop & have faithful priests removed. He has now ensured that the College of Cardinals has sufficient Modernists to elect another like-minded successor unless drastic action is taken to publicly inform Catholic clergy & laity that PF shouldn’t be followed & what steps they can take to ensure he isn’t.
It is not necessary to sit on the Throne of Peter to teach heresy – the drip drip of continual questioning of God’s Word, the Ten Commandments he gave to all people for all time, saying there is no Catholic God, no Hell, even Atheists can get to Heaven, etc. is not from the Holy Ghost but the Dark One, and as such PF cannot be viewed as Catholic & has shown no attempt to date of upholding the Deposit of Faith, Magisterium or Tradition of the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church which Christ founded on the First Apostles. He must be deposed!
Bishop Fellay, quotes from an open letter to Pope John Paul II, 1999:
“Most Holy Father,
In 1986, Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro Mayer considered that it was their duty to publicly reprimand You, according to the example of Saint Paul (Gal. 2:11), on account of the Assisi prayer meeting, to which You invited the principal world “religions.” This public sin against the first commandment of God and against the first article of the Creed, this great offense against the Sovereign Majesty of the only true God, One and Three, caused an immense scandal to the faithful.
How could You, Vicar of Christ, Vicar of the solus Sanctus, solus Dominus, solus Altissimus, place Yourself as one among the represenatives of the “religions” which deny His divinity? How could You humiliate the Catholic Church, the only Spouse of Our Lord Jesus Christ (Eph. 5:26,27) by bringing it down to the level of organizations founded not by God, but by the will of man (Jn. 1:13)? How could You invite the followers of “religions” which refuse the only Mediator between God and men, Jesus Christ (1 Tim. 2:5) or which, by denying the existence of one only, personal God are nothing more than atheism and idolatry? How could You justify this invitation by affirming that the Holy Spirit dwells mysteriously in every man, whereas Saint Paul teaches the contrary (Rm. 8:9)?
At the same time as You are going to renew the Assisi scandal, October 28, at St. Peter’s Square in Rome, we dare to solemnly protest against this sin, and invoking the authority of Your quite recent predecessors, and to confront You with the condemnation that they made of this, as well as of the underlying errors: Pius IX in the Syllabus (Propositions 16-18); Leo XIII condemning the Paris Congress of Religions (Letter of September 15, 1899) and Pius XI in Mortalium Animos. By these “inter-religious” meetings You do not confirm Your brethren in the Faith. Much to the contrary, You promote an immense indifferentism and You provoke division within the bosom of the Church. Moreover, the humanist, earthly, and naturalist themes taken up at these meetings cause the Church to fall down from its entirely divine, eternal and supernatural mission to the level of the freemasonic ideals of world peace outside of the only Prince of Peace, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Archbishop Lefebvre saw in this disastrous event of Assisi one of the “signs of the times,” which permitted him to proceed legitimately with episcopal consecrations without Your consent and to write to You that “the time for an open collaboration has not yet come.” The past thirteen years of Your Papacy have failed to wipe away these signs in any way at all, nor their disastrous consequences for the Church, nor the would that they have inflicted on the hearts of faithful Catholics.
To this first cause of sorrow is to be added the signature, on October 31, of the Common Declaration of the Catholic Church and the World Federation of Lutheran churches on Justification. How can You permit signature of this Declaration, after Cardinal Cassidy, in the name of the Catholic Church, has contradicted its text on serious points, uncovering its errors and ambiguities?
Your Magisterium, ratifying in this manner the anathematized error of the simul justus et peccator (at the same time just and a sinner), the ambiguity on the nature of grace, and on the free and meritworthy co-operation with it, loses its credibility.
These very serious words are inspired only by our love of our Mother, the Holy Catholic Church, of the Holy Apostolic See and of the Pope (…)”
Bishop Fellay, April, 2017 interview:
“At the time, I wrote to Pope Francis, and we prepared a text to wake up the cardinals, a letter from our three bishops. But, I will not say “unfortunately” — that would not be the right word — but four cardinals took the initiative just before we were about to send the letter. That’s why there was not much noise about it because it was already done. So our letter just remains in a drawer.”
If the four dubia cardinals were truly concerned with the Catholic faith, they too, like the SSPX would no longer have status in the conciliar church. I used to be a big “fan” of Burke and Ratzinger and the FSSP until I realized how complicit they were in propping up a false religon. I then sought some sort of haven with the SSPX but am deeply troubled by Fellay’s silence concerning the errors propogated daily by the conciliar church. Our Lady’s warnings over the last few centuries is the only answer that seems to make sense of this situation. The True Church must be eclipsed somehow. The Rome we see and the Bishops and Priests we hear from no longer preach Catholicism. Only in SSPX and sede chapels can we still find Catholicism.
As usual Ana Milan hits it.
I do not think anything more is coming from the Cardinals, who have had ample time and opportunity to get it done if they had a mind to. They do not.
Anything can happen of course, and I have no skills in prophesy, but it does not appear anyone is going to say a word about this pope, and yes, we sink further and further into apostasy and destruction of our faith and church each and every day that this mess goes unchallenged. As I have felt for a few years now, a wayward pope is a scandal, the reality of Cardinals wearing red for no reason whatsoever is devastating. The bishops have almost altogether gone astray. Weak? That would be kind.
In our area our bishop is now full on board the Francis-train, welcoming all shiny new refugees to our shores! Our local priest, a faithful priest who at his jubilee two years ago included public prayers to Our Lady, on his knees at the altar, now includes multiple references to “the Common Good”, which is Marxist-speak, and straight out of…Rome.
“So our letter just remains in a drawer”?????? Why??? Send it anyway to support the initiative of the four cardinals. Sounds pretty lame to me. I would have been embarrassed to admit that!
Psalm 2
1 Why have the Gentiles raged, and the people devised vain things?
2 The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes met together, against the Lord and against his Christ.
3 Let us break their bonds asunder: and let us cast away their yoke from us.
4 He that dwelleth in heaven shall laugh at them: and the Lord shall deride them.
5 Then shall he speak to them in his anger, and trouble them in his rage.
6 But I am appointed king by him over Sion his holy mountain, preaching his commandment.
7 The Lord hath said to me: Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I will give thee the Gentiles for thy inheritance, and the utmost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt rule them with a rod of iron, and shalt break them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 And now, O ye kings, understand: receive instruction, you that judge the earth.
11 Serve ye the Lord with fear: and rejoice unto him with trembling.
12 Embrace discipline, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and you perish from the just way.
13 When his wrath shall be kindled in a short time, blessed are all they that trust in him.
Pope Dubia = Francis’ new name.
God the Son told the Jewish leaders of the people, He was, before Abraham was. ” I am who am” In fact He always was and can never not be.
That means a contingent being such that we are, are totally reliant on God. This is clearly missed by Francis. His upside down description of Life causes one to wonder, if he ever studied St Thomas Aquinas. Perhaps the only Pope not to have been at the Council did not get an opportunity to learn the truth about God Almighty. And he’s His representative, visible Head on earth?