The latest scandal surrounding Pope Francis concerns the gifts he received from Bolivian President Evo Morales; a sacrilegious representation of the Crucifix fashioned out of a hammer and sickle and a medallion bearing the same communist symbol.
Now, there is considerable debate taking place in the Catholic blogosphere about whether or not Pope Francis said, upon receiving the bastardized Crucifix, “No esta bien” (This is not good).
From a review of the video, it’s not clear to me either way, but what should be clear to all concerned is that there is a major problem with this pontificate.
Even if Pope Francis did say “No esta bien,” two entirely unacceptable and avoidable things took place:
Number one, Morales successfully executed a photo-op of himself standing next to a smiling Roman Pontiff, who happens to be holding in his hands an article that combines two mutually exclusive things – one pure evil, one the greatest gift mankind has received; namely, Communism and the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
I’d say that Morales hit himself a home run.
Secondly, a semi-private muttering of “No esta bien“ isn’t even close to good enough.
If, in fact, it actually was said, the manner in which it was spoken only confirms what we’ve long since known about this pope; he simply doesn’t take his role as guardian of the Faith and Supreme Teacher seriously.
One wonders how Popes Pius X, Benedict XV, Pius XI, and Pius XII would have reacted to such an affront.
On the one hand, we might say that a firm and unmistakable rebuke would have taken place, followed by the Holy Father likely dropping to his knees in reparation for this terrible offense against Christ.
On the other, it’s more realistic to believe that such a travesty would have never taken place.
There is no way that such “gifts” would have ever made their way into the same room as the Holy Father in those days; his entourage of assistants and security personal would have immediately eliminated that possibility, if for no other reason than knowing full well that their own heads would likely roll if they allowed such a thing.
Which brings me to another aspect of this scandal; namely, the kinds of men with whom Pope Francis chooses to surround himself.
Every pope surrounds himself with men who think as he thinks, or at the very least learn to conform their thinking to his own in order to serve him.
There can be no doubt whatsoever that, especially given that we now live in an age of terrorism, that any number of persons in the papal entourage had screened and approved of these magnificently offensive “gifts” well before they were given.
They even allowed Morales to drape Communist symbols around the Holy Father’s neck; like it is acceptable to use the pope as if he is little more than a mannequin!
In the best case scenario, the pope’s staff failed him, and then he in turn failed the world.
That said, it’s not as if his staff had no reason to believe that their boss would be open to posing for a politically charged photo-op.
What kind of pope allows himself to be treated as a billboard for various causes even by those who are enemies of the Church; enabling them to steal what looks to many like her approval?
The kind of pope who belongs to the world more so than to the Holy Catholic Church.
GOOD GOD MAN!!! THIS IS THE DEVIL HIMSELF OPENLY CAROUSING AND LAUGHING DIRECTLY IN OUR FACES AS THE ESTABLISHMENT CATHOLIC MORONS CONTINUE TO PRETEND THAT FATIMA IS IRRELEVANT AND THAT RUSSIA DOESN’T NEED TO BE CONSECRATED!
OR THEY’RE COWARDS LIKE CHURCHMILITANTTV WHO’LL KEEP THEIR HEADS BURIED IN THE SAND AND TELL US THAT WE CAN BE FREE TO IGNORE FATIMA!!!
POPE FRANCIS SHOULD’VE REFUSED THIS ‘GIFT’ RIGHT TO MORALES FACE! Not a measly “this is not good… but who am I to judge?” moment…
WHAT A FARCE!
WAKE THE HELL UP!
One of the problems with this Pope (there are so many it would be impossible to count) is that he is so loved by the world that no one fears him! He is a “live and let live” kind of a guy which allows anyone to do or say anything without fear of reprisal (except being Traditional, of course!). Is the US Supreme Court “shaking in their shoes” because Bergoglio is scheduled to visit after their horrendous decision which is an attack on traditional Marriage and the family? I don’t think so! Are our so-called “Catholic” politicians worried that they may be reprimanded by the Vicar of Christ for their anti-Catholic positions? Again, I don’t think so! We are like orphans with this man as the Visible Head of the Church. Let us cling to Christ the King!
Who am I to judge-? But, I can tell you I am ready to join with the sedevacantists.
How much more anti-Christ can you be Mr. Bergooglio? Celebrating a pure atheist symbol under which millions have been slaughtered? Are you kidding me? Congratulations…I have just joined the Sedevacantist ranks. No sir, who ever he is, he’s not my Pope. Time for the cardinals to get off their fat asses and go into a conclave and impeach this dipshit imposter pope and elect a true one. I’m not holding my breath though, they seem pretty comfortable living off the collection basket their entire lives, and they won’t put that at risk.
Michael Francis Poulin
Very welcome ol’ chap! 🙂
Hey Mike,
This is too good to be true!!! 🙂
Im not looking to “hijack” this thread….but when I see this craziness, I, as a sede, have no problem with it….I am not “stunned and appalled” and see it for what it is: the act of a tool of satan doing his best to destroy our Church. Like any other apostate, mr. bergoglio defames the Catholic Church at every opportunity. It upsets me of course but it is to be expected. Satan is all about destroying the Church…..actual popes could never take part in anything like this. We can defame the man and his words until the cows come home….as long as we acknowledge this man as “pope” we lend credence to his position as “Christ’s vicar on earth” which he is surely not, and HELP lead ignorant souls astray.
The problem is that the cardinals are vatican 2 apostates as well. They are incapable of electing a true pope because THEY ARE WHO THEY ARE, and God will not infringe upon our free will.
Amen! Haleluja!!!
OK, now I’ll be quiet, because I can feel the tomatoes lining up to be launched. 🙂
Evo Morales is an open, flagrant enemy of Christ’s Church.
Upon his coming to office, one of the first things he did was to ditch the crucifix and bible and other Catholic ceremonies from government, and change them to pagan ones. Also, he tried to ban catholic catechism classes from schools run by the Catholic Church (only 15%).
And he’s a big fan of Francis too.
Go figure.
https://www.gloria.tv/media/KdTQxPTnPex
“this is not good [he’s clearly seen to shake his head in the video]… but who am I to judge?”
Yup, that was my overall impression too.
What’s that necklace Francis is wearing around his neck anyhow??
Lol….thankfully we are on a site comprised of good men and women, run by a good man, who strive to do as Christ demanded of us (even though many of us disagree with each other on a very important matter). Bergoglio will force the hand of many.
Another day (hour?) another blasphemy.
But you don’t really have to if you are only now “ready.” I agree Heresy-A-Day Jorge is no longer Catholic and, as a result, no longer pope. But if not a sede before you still have a pope…Benedict. You don’t really think he voluntarily resigned, right? Don’t you think there has been a subtle supernatural message all along in this duality? Kind of like designating the Mass of the Ages the extraordinary form while the NO became just ordinary. Someone’s been trying to tell something to those who will listen.
No one who is honest and of normal intelligence could deny that he is a pertinacious heretic and therefore certainly not the pope in the supernatural realm, whatever about the canonical situation. However. The longer he is allowed to remain in the external office of the pope, the more damage he does to the Church, and to countless souls.
Goo Lord, if you reject jorge as a pope how in the world do you accept jozef? He FORMED jorge!!!
This, your last sentence, is what so many seem to disregard. What true pope would LEAD souls to hell??? How could Christ’s true vicar LEAD souls to hell? This is a total contradiction of who God is. It baffles my mind as to how anyone could call this man a pope. Pope’s dont help people go to hell…..Christ would never trick us in this way as it is against His perfect nature which desires all to be saved.
mpoulin,
Wow! The pope can have his concubines and bastard children running all over the Vatican and he’s still the pope. But if during a political meeting with another leader, he has a piece of blasphemous art placed in his hands and he doesn’t react instantly the way he should, that’s grounds for you to declare him not the pope? Yes, I believe Pope Francis will go down, barring a miraculous conversion/awakening, in the annals as one of the most reckless in safeguarding the Faith, but surely you can do better than this incident as a reason to declare the Chair of Peter vacant.
Learn the difference between regular mortal sin and the mortal sin heresy….and then apply it to the man who calls himself pope. Both will send you to hell but one severs you from the Church while you still breath.
Re the Gloria TV piece: I’m amazed at the bishop from Singapore with his ‘we are one’ nonsense – this is really getting scary. How fast bishops jump on the language bandwagon – have they all been waiting in the weeds for this ‘permission’ to speak heresy and apostasy?
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The language of the Catholic Church is changing right before our eyes (ears?). As we speak, so we believe…a paraphrase but true. The neo-speak has changed what neo-church believes.
I have no idea who the pope is. It could be Benedict, Francis, or nobody. I just don’t get it. I’d rather have a pope with a womanizing problem and lots of children hopped up on sugar running and screaming through the halls and all over the place than this situation we’re stuck with today. At least we’d know the womanizer was still “manly” in a sense and would wipe the floor with Morales and all the jokers that let the guy through with his “gift” after a stunt like that! This guy….ugh, I just don’t know what-the-hell-is-what these days.
Google Bp Donald Sanborn and start from there. You need to take a DEEP breath and then listen to one of the few good Catholic Bishops who still exist. Listen to him intently and the fog will start to lift.
Move along, folks. Nothin’ to see here. We’ve now been assured that this was about…you guessed it…DIALOGUE. Of course! See:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150709/lt–pope-communist_crucifix-f025b21fae.html
…And also learn how to, and who can, judge an action as mortally sinful and/or heretical.
Not only DIALOGUE…that stupid word…but it’s ugly cousin INTENT.
From the second to last bit of that article you linked to above:
“The Rev. Robert Gahl, a moral theologian at Rome’s Pontifical Holy Cross University in Rome, said it all boils down to Espinal’s intent in designing the cross and Morales’ intent in giving it to the pope.”
Someone spanish translated his words on another site as ” I did not know that “
Francis is the biblical false prophet he is the precursor to the Antichrist who very soon after some major world events will take his place on the world scene. he will be the long awaited Zionist jew world order Messiah. .
1.) Having concubines and bastard children is hardly on the same moral level as promoting an ideology that has murdered and persecuted millions, also a private sin is not the same as public sin by a reigning Pope.
2.) I didn’t “declare” him not the pope, I said he is not my Pope, the same as I will never accept that he is the Pope as he continues his heretical actions and statements.
3.) This is the last of along history of incidents. If it was an ambush “gotcha” moment” setup it could be overlooked , but you know damned well it was not, just another in a long line of indicators that says this man is not even Catholic. The first indication for me came when he put doubts on the lips of Mary.
4.) A True Pope would have condemned this blasphemous “art” immediately and publicly, including an announcement of some sort to the faithful. Not hearing it are you?
Time to get yourself out of Vatican II happy land Mike.
The Catholic Faith is not gnostic or complicated. It accords with our reason, and all persons of the age of reason are capable of knowing and understanding it, knowing what is of the Faith or against it. We are not concerned with occult heresy but manifest pertinacious heresy, repeated and confirmed in many different ways.
It is the failure of the good bishops and cardinals to do their duty to preserve the Faith and save souls that is most painful and most illustrative of the depths that the Church has sunk to. Lord, have mercy. A famous description of catastrophe is that of the evil being full of zeal while the good are silent and apathetic – that is how this Great Apostasy is.
No, you modernist, relativist, subversive theologian – it is a simple objective matter. The piece is objectively grave matter and Francis knew the evil of what he was doing by accepting it. I am quite sure it was all prearranged down to the last detail as papal meetings always are, including what “gifts” are to be exchanged.
Any Catholic who knows his Faith and has a modicum of reason knows giving in to sins of the flesh in one’s private life is not comparable to publicly promoting heresies and intrinsic evils as pope.
Spot-on.
Francis should have dropped the thing to the floor, and then left the room.
I can judge my friend. I am a Catholic who knows the Truth and does his best to abide by it. If you support the evilness of abortion (for example), I judge you to be hellbound. Please explain to me how my judgement is incorrect.
You give them much more credit then I do….I dont see any of these men as being good. As far as I see, any man who is still a part of the heretical vatican 2 church is lost. This includes the sspx “fence sitters” who do not have the courage to damn the vatican 2 heresy and separate from them, which Bp Lefebvre should have done to begin with.
Exactly.
Compare this, the preamble of Pope Paul IV’s Bull Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio with the behavior of the purported current Pope:
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“By virtue of the Apostolic office which, despite our unworthiness, has been entrusted to Us by God, We are responsible for the general care of the flock of the Lord. Because of this, in order that the flock may be faithfully guarded and beneficially directed, We are bound to be diligently watchful after the manner of a vigilant Shepherd and to ensure most carefully that certain people who consider the study of the truth beneath them should be driven out of the sheepfold of Christ and no longer continue to disseminate error from positions of authority. We refer in particular to those who in this age, impelled by their sinfulness and supported by their cunning, are attacking with unusual learning and malice the discipline of the orthodox Faith, and who, moreover, by perverting the import of Holy Scripture, are striving to rend the unity of the Catholic Church and the seamless tunic of the Lord.
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1.In assessing Our duty and the situation now prevailing, We have been weighed upon by the thought that a matter of this kind [i.e. error in respect of the Faith] is so grave and so dangerous that the Roman Pontiff,who is the representative upon earth of God and our God and Lord Jesus Christ, who holds the fulness of power over peoples and kingdoms, who may judge all and be judged by none in this world, may nonetheless be contradicted if he be found to have deviated from the Faith. Remembering also that, where danger is greater, it must more fully and more diligently be counteracted, We have been concerned lest false prophets or others, even if they have only secular jurisdiction, should wretchedly ensnare the souls of the simple, and drag with them into perdition, destruction and damnation countless peoples committed to their care and rule, either in spiritual or in temporal matters; and We have been concerned also lest it may befall Us to see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by the prophet Daniel, in the holy place. In view of this, Our desire has been to fulfill our Pastoral duty, insofar as, with the help of God, We are able, so as to arrest the foxes who are occupying themselves in the destruction of the vineyard of the Lord and to keep the wolves from the sheepfolds, lest We seem to be dumb watchdogs that cannot bark and lest We perish with the wicked husbandman and be compared with the hireling.”
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Has the current purported Pope EVER manifested an awareness of his duty for the souls in his care as manifested by Pope Paul IV in this preamble, or is he the worst spiritual fornicator ever to occupy the Papal Seat, chasing after the forbidden fruit of every novelty in vogue during his purported papacy?
On Eponymous Flower there is a photo with him wearing the satanic symbol: http://eponymousflower.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/what-is-origin-of-hammer-and-sickle.html
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The places that first reported the ‘that’s not right’ are retracting. He may have said, “I didn’t know that” (“No sabía eso”) – the indisputable fact is, the man who has no jurisdicition in the Catholic church, smilingly accepted the blasphemy before everyone. I reckon the greater scandal is that people still think the man who accepted the blasphemy has any jurisdiciton from Christ. That is becoming more of a scandal than the continued public demonic apostasy of Bergoglio.
Before you do you might want to read the attached by John Salza. It is a bit long but necessarily so. He explains and deconstructs the sedevacantist well. It is very informative and worth everyone’s time to read it.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic%20Tradition/Feature%20-%20Salza%20responds%20to%20Novus%20Ordo%20Watch.pdf
PF is wearing us out for sure and testing our Faith. May I suggest you read John Salza on the SV issue before you join their ranks which is understandable given the ongoing fiasco in the Chair of Peter. It’s worth everyone’s time. As tempted and sympathetic one might be to the SV, IMO it is not advisable to do so. Salza explains why not far better than anyone I have read (a lot by the way) on the subject.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic%20Tradition/Feature%20-%20Salza%20responds%20to%20Novus%20Ordo%20Watch.pdf
Agree Mike. As much as it is counter intuitive we are not dealing with the ordinary scandalous behavior of a modern day prelate. John Salza explains it well. Worth everyone’s time IMO.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic%20Tradition/Feature%20-%20Salza%20responds%20to%20Novus%20Ordo%20Watch.pdf
PS. Agree with some of the comments above – VII and the Novus Ordo are simply personified in Bergoglio – its ripe fruit. He belongs to a system that broke with Christ fifty years ago. A system that occupied the episcopal sees, and exiled Christ and His true Apostolic successors from the ‘ancient places’. For those who have been given the grace to know that Vatican II/Novus Ordo is the work of saboteurs, to continue to look for the ‘visible’ One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in the VII/Novus Ordo counterfeit is as intellectually honest as looking for her in the Church of England, simply because the sees of the Anglican Bishops were once Catholic. By the Grace of God, the Apostolic gift and mission has been preserved in those brave and terribly maligned sedevacantist priests and bishops and in the SSPX clergy as well. That the SSPX are choosing to confirm the alien in his alien errors by collaborating with him as if he were ‘brethren’ rather than call him the enemy of Christ that he is, is to bless all his wickedness. It puts countless souls in danger and acts towards those souls, including Bergoglio, with an utter lack of charity.
Anger and negative emotions over the actions of PF are understandable. May I suggest reading John Salza on the Sede issue. It is very well done.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic%20Tradition/Feature%20-%20Salza%20responds%20to%20Novus%20Ordo%20Watch.pdf
After you do, then also read John Salza on the issue. It is well done and thoroughly rebuts the good Bishop. We do not have the luxury of our emotions on the Sede issue. Although understandable it is untenable.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/feature-articles/Catholic%20Tradition/Feature%20-%20Salza%20responds%20to%20Novus%20Ordo%20Watch.pdf
the correct translation and meaning was…”This is not good”…Talk about an understatement? It ranks right up there with..”Who Am I to Judge?”
Dear Jacobum,
I cross my heart and hope to die – I really did try to read Salza’s article.
Sadly by the middle of page 3, I just could not continue. The spirit was willing, but the flesh couldn’t take anymore. By that stage I had seen so many false statements, I could no more. How I wish we could sit down with a beer and quietly discuss Salza’s article together. If I just refuted those 2 1/2 pages with my one finger typing, it would take me all night and we would be having a full scale debate on sedevacantism again. I certainly would not recommend this article to anybody who truly wants to find out about sedevacantism.
“… As far as the spoken words go: As is visible and audible from the clips, Morales explains to Francis that the “crucifix” was probably designed by the Jesuit Fr. Luis Espinal Camps and then hands him the blasphemous piece. At that point, Francis says, “I didn’t know that” (that’s the part all the fuss is about) and his look turns serene and he smiles a bit and seems content with the explanation given. Morales replies, “Now you know”, and the whole affair — both words and gestures — makes perfect sense, especially because the night before this encounter, Francis had prayed at the site where this Fr. Espinal was assassinated in 1980 and “Fr.” Lombardi has since confirmed that Francis did not know this “artwork” had been designed by Fr. Espinal. … The matter is clear: Based on his words and his gesturing, Francis did not rebuke the Socialist president but merely expressed his astonishment at the origin of this “crucifix” and didn’t give a flip about it being a blasphemy. He gladly accepted the explanation given by Morales. “http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/#.VZ92yPmeDGc
He’s keeping up the tradition of his father in the faith, Montini:
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http://s1349.photobucket.com/user/nanateam/media/Popes/PAUL6_zpse9ede101.jpg.html (portrait publicly accepted by Montini after he gave the artist access to the ‘papal’ audience for a couple of years).
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If you want to know what the portrait means in real folks terms:
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http://www.novusordowatch.org/paulvi-smoke.jpg
“Has the current purported Pope EVER manifested an awareness of his duty for the souls in his care as manifested by Pope Paul IV in this preamble, or is he the worst spiritual fornicator ever to occupy the Papal Seat, chasing after the forbidden fruit of every novelty in vogue during his purported papacy?”
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I reckon Wojtyla still takes that prize for worst spiritual fornicator. If Bergoglio had no awareness of the Catholic faith he would not attack it so vigorously and ‘colourfully’. Likewise, he had is shown to be a spiritual fornicator by the fact that he was raised in the Faith (free from any of the adulterations of VII and the Novus Ordo yet to come) – a Faith which he now spends his days – with the help of the Novus Ordo Cardinals, Bishops et al, the jet, the ‘pope-mobile’, the hotel, the cassock and the Square – ‘serenely’ attacking. Does this man have the approval of Christ the King to define faith and morals before the Church and the world? Or does this imposter have the permission of God to lead astray those who hunger for a fornicator to lead them? 20 centuries of Catholic fact and tradition give us a clear answer.
above in answer to Cyprian’s Q.
Exactly, AlphonsusJr! It’s as though ‘to dialogue’ is to go beyond Good and Evil. (It’s nihilistic!)
This Pope — and the entire post-conciliar Church — seeped with the heresy of modernism and progressivism, forget that although Christians are ‘in the world’ they are not ‘of the world.’
To paraphrase the wise words of a saint: when battling sins or the occasions of sin it is often more courageous to flee than to do straightforward battle. But these troglodyte categories of ‘sin’ or the ‘occasions of sin’ no longer exist in the modern church.
I asked the same question to myself too.
Another apology “comin’ at yu” in the footsteps of “St.” JP2:
http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/pope-echoes-predecessors-apologies-for-catholics-sins-during-colonization-of-america
Here’s a question for anyone who would like to take a stab at it:
It is quite obvious that Bergoglio hates Catholics (with a capital “C”) and hates being Catholic, so why do “c”atholics love him so much?????
Because most catholics have been brainwashed to hate true Catholicism.
You’re just not evolved. Wake up, man! Here, let Placido Pax help you see the glories of DIALOGUE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa4cOvMuAXc&list=PLf375sWCjj6rRGmcJeRyBDHKflN6yf6MZ&index=22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-6tsIyP46A&index=23&list=PLf375sWCjj6rRGmcJeRyBDHKflN6yf6MZ
Bingo. V2 produced a new church with a new religion, which is NOT Catholic! Therefore, if you do not accept the ‘new springtime’ , you are called mean, divisive, intolerant, rigid, scrupulous, radical, extreme, out-of-touch, old-fashioned, behind-the-times, schismatic, and on and on…Where does this hatred come from? The modernist agenda has succeeded in gathering the “people of God” together to be the majority of “Catholics” working for their cause to destroy true Catholicism. Of course, we know they won’t win the battle, as it has already been won by Truth, but the amount of souls that are casualties in this war must be staggering. That is why we must remain vigilant in prayer and speaking the truth to help save as many souls as possible.
‘These things I command you. that you love one another. If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.’ (St. John 15: 17 – 19)
The world loves its own: the post-conciliar church has all the marks of being ‘of the world’.
Extrapolating from St. John 15: 17-19, it seems the modern, post-conciliar church not only sins against God, but against love of neighbour.
People can reasonably question whether or not efforts of the laity have any significant effect right now, but we know from Tradition, Scripture and personal experience, that God blesses and multiplies even our smallest good offerings and use them in ways we could never imagine, to bring about good.
-So it’s good to hear that these respected Catholic people are still hard at work and making those efforts- at their annual Summer meeting, as reported by Gloria tv. today:
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“Getting The Church Back On Track: The Roman Forum, gathered presently at Lake Garda in Northern Italy, has adopted the Lake Garda Statement. It calls on Pope Francis – quote – to reverse the Church’s course of the past fifty years, abandoning the disastrous “opening to the world” and the endless “dialogue” and fruitless collaboration with the Church’s implacable enemies.” The statement is signed among others, by the US historian John C. Rao, the president of the American Catholic Lawyers Association, Christopher A. Ferrara, the editor of The Remnant, Michael J. Matt and by the editor of Catholic Family News, John Vennari.”
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God bless them and all of us with the courage and wisdom to continue working, placing ALL our trust in Him, and remembering Our Lord’s promise to remain with His Church until the end of time, not allowing the gates of Hell to prevail.
Ann Barnhardt tells it like it is about this Pope to CMR, with no pulled punches. One to save and reference:
http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2015/07/ann-barnhardt-part-iv-pope-sodomites.html
Indignus Famulus, lovely reply as always. For myself, despite Great anger and disgust over all these wicked insults to Our Lord, I humbly try to remind myself it is not just the sins of our clergy that bring about these horrible acts, but My sins too. Rather than always blaming the clergy, I try to remember that any past indifference or carelessness on my part has brought about these wicked times. It is not good enough to be filled with righteous anger but to always remember holy lay people can and will make all the difference. Prayers and penance from true Catholics are what will save us, in mercy through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Now I’m getting confused. The Corpus is hanging on the symbol of the Soviet Union, right? Communism, Marxism, socialism, right? The regime that banned God from life, murdered tens of millions of people, right? The regime whose butcher of a leader banged his shoe on his desk at the UN as a style of dialogue, right?
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As I said I’m confused. Here’s me thinking those things I listed above are BAD! How could I possibly know this whole thing with the Marxist, socialist, murdering millions was all about respect, honouring different opinions and styles of worship and DIALOGUE.
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Thank Heavens we have Francis and Lombardi to help us UNDERSTAND.
Thanks for putting this up. So comforting that we have real men speaking real truth, no matter who doesn’t like it.
I believe Cardinal Burke has sent his greetings and support for this year’s Roman Forum. Wish I could afford to go!!
Yes. We are certainly sinners – Our Lord said even the just man sins seven times a day…add our petty sins to the millions and millions of baby murders, and the millions and millions of sodomitic acts and we’re talking chastisement here.
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Sodom and Gomorrah here we come?
Dear tmarie,
A hearty Amen. This has been the consistent message of the approved apparitions of Our Blessed Mother over many centuries, including Quito, Ecuador. And “war is a punishment for sin” she said at Fatima. The Faithful know that Spiritual warfare is every bit as painful and has far more permanent effects on its casualties in eternity.
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We’ve found it helpful to remind ourselves that whatever temporal sufferings God allows into our lives can be accepted and offered to help atone for our own past sins; (“Take up Thy cross and Follow Me”) while keeping that idea balance with what St. Paul said –(paraphrasing) that whatever is NOT applicable to our own failings, can be offered for the sake of other souls who can use our help. This is the work of the Church. We grow in genuine love and contribute to Our Lords’ work of redemption. Great reasons never to be discouraged, even when our sufferings seem like more than we can bear.. (Although we have been known to joke about this topic over the last 50 years of trials and losses, -that if God’s has only one imperfection it is how much he overestimates what we can take at times.)
Keep the Faith. God Bless you 🙂 🙂
Sister Lucy…God is giving two last remedies to the world. These are the Holy Rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. These are the LAST TWO REMEDIES which signify that THERE WILL BE NO OTHERS”.
Just a reminder that, in this video, Bergoglio quotes Zhou Enlai (at the 4:28 mark).
Wikipedia discusses Zhou Enlai’s record here.
My point was if he’s only NOW considering sede, he must have thought previous popes were legitimate. That means Benedict would have been legitimate for him…and Benedict is still around. I, for one, was not sede previously, consistent with the position of the SSPX, which I have come to believe that through the grace of God and his promise to the Church, is a final repository of the faith. I do, however, think Jorge has excommunicated himself by his un-Catholic words and the almost daily scandals they have created.
Dear Dumb ox,
It’s bad enough we have a Pope who uses quotes from his favorite Communists, [even though in this case he admitted that Enlai’s comment about youth being the future was “only half right”, because the wisdom of the elderly is needed to balance it]. What’s worse is the absence of any Catholic teaching on these important matters. Neither the youth nor the elderly will save the culture he is so concerned about in that video, without that “wisdom” having come from God through His Church and from the Graces it brings to save souls. What totally missed opportunities! He remains focused on this earth right to the end, where they ask him how to motivate the youth regarding the “fatherland”. He says to give them one “concrete idea” to hold onto – like the explorers had, and then let them grow. Not a word about our Heavenly Father or where our true homeland is, and how understanding our being and destiny is what instills love in us for everything around us that God gave us at birth.
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It’s painful to watch, and at the same time very revealing, because when someone is asked a question and answers spontaneously, generally what matters most to them comes out in their speech. What stands out here are only thoughts of the earth and human endeavors, rather than of God and His Loving, providential plans for our souls in all eternity.
Ock Amen
Waiting with baited breath to see how Michael Voris spins this one ????
Imagine those priests and sisters who gave their very lives for the natives in South America! They converted, through the graces of a Most Merciful Father, millions of pagan souls.
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If even one of those souls went to heaven it was all worth it. Francis knows nothing about this. He consistently chooses self over that Most Merciful Father’s Will.
That representation of Christ spells out what has been happening in the Catholic Church ,with the hammer they have smashed our Altars and Sanctuaries ,and with the sickle they have cut Tradition out ,they have distorted the Words of Christ and deformed the Faith ,in a strange way that image speaks volumes .We’ve had the broken Cross ,the Risen Christ cross ,the bent Cross of Cevo that fell and killed a young man.This one is just another monstrosity to add to the collection ,and is a visible outward sign of what’s taking place within.
Its a medal with an image of the hammer and sickle cross.See close up on this link. http://eponymousflower.blogspot.ie/2015/07/what-is-origin-of-hammer-and-sickle.html
Dear mazara,
Insightful and well put. Louie has mentioned a few times that painful as it is, he thinks it’s a good thing to have this all becoming more and more evident. We fully agree. Our Lord warned us long ago that a time of great scandals would come, when many would fall away, and charity would grow cold, and that when we see all these things begin to happen, we should know that He is “at the door” , and persevere to the end.
Very true.
http://youtu.be/Wvf4QKvZXK4
Dear john6,
While we agree that our fellow earthlings have been begging for God’s wrath through the world-wide promotion of un-repented Mortal sins and we are therefore long overdue for the birth-pangs this video presents; the first item it mentions–Planet X — has been debunked by numerous credible sources. The woman who started it in 1995, Nancy Lieder, claimed to have a brain implant that was receiving messages from aliens in the Zeta Reticulum galaxy. If any more than that is needed–as each of her dated predictions failed they were removed from her website. 😉 😉
I didnt put the vid up for the planet x theory. The vid is 26mins long that finishes at 1min 25sec.
Dear john6,
We’d hoped that was the case. We think the cautions are good and necessary for those who might not be aware of hoaxes. Hope you don’t mind.
God Bless.
This is the terrible truth.
Likely the same way the Vatican did. And none of them are concerned that the Pope is going to visit Communist leaders (with a record of hate speech and actions against the Church)-contrary to 2,000 years of practice and teaching, with NO intention of using the opportunity to actively try to convert them. We know this from his prior “instructions” on what he thinks Catholics should do in public situations. What do you bet Voris will claim we can’t blame the pontiff for unexpected gift and that he said something like “that’s not right”. ?
Just read the Lake Garda statement. Encapsulates exactly what’s needed to turn the Ark of Peter around. Bravo The Roman Forum!
Yeah, but Voris has a crucial interview with Bishop Schneider on his Premium site. He’s been showing snippets of it this week. Very, very, very blessed we are to actually have a bishop who speaks like a bishop and that through the interwebs we can access this. Thank Our Dear Father in Heaven for the gift of this bishop.
Some context for what’s happening right before our eyes. The latest from Rorate Caeli. Michael Davies Lecture – history of past 50 years post-council – roots of present evil.
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http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/07/exclusive-for-rorate-michael-davies.html
Here is some more straight talking: http://66.147.242.160/~stumbli4/
This is frightening and comforting at the same time.
I like and respect Mr Salza and I read his article. Thanks for the link. From the article I take it I can resist and even disobey him, which I do, but only the Church can formally declare him a heretic. I believe I did say so in my crude manner much the same, I leave it in the hands of the Cardinals or a general synod, even though I’ll never trust them either. By their fruit you will know them. Modernist fruit smells pretty rotten to me. In October the Vatican II cult will allow unrepentant sinners to receive Holy Communion, then you all will have to decide whether to follow the false shepherd or not.
Amen
Here’s one news flash we didn’t see coming…
Gloria tv. July 13
” Pope Francis has offered the controversial hammer and sickle turned into a cross.. to Our Lady of Copacabana in La Paz, the patron saint of Bolivia… In accompanying words Francis calls these – quote – “symbols of affection and closeness” or “emblems of the everlasting love and persevering gratitude of the Bolivian people” for Our Lady.”
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Is it a “coincidence” that the apparition of July 13, 1917 included the vision of Hell and Our Lady’s requests to
“Make sacrifices for sinners, and say often, especially while making a sacrifice: O Jesus, this is for love of Thee, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for offences committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary. ”
Lucia later wrote:
“.. terrified and as if to plead for succor, we looked up at Our Lady, who said to us, so kindly and so sadly:
You have seen hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. It is to save them that God wants to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart.
and … ” I shall come to the world to ask that Russia be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart, and I shall ask that on the First Saturday of every month Communions of reparation be made in atonement for the sins-of the world. If my wishes are fulfilled, Russia will be converted and there will be peace; if not, then Russia will spread her errors throughout the world, bringing new wars and persecution of the Church; the good will be martyred and the Holy Father will have much to suffer; certain nations will be annihilated. But in the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and the world will enjoy a period of peace. In Portugal the faith will always be preserved… “
Is this another attempt to claim that Russia has already been converted WITHOUT its being consecrated by name?
Here is an article in Christian Order (2001) by Father Chad Ripperger on why there is such a dis-connect between Traditional Catholics and Neo-Conservative Catholics:
http://www.christianorder.com/features/features_2001/features_mar01.html
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He describes how the modern philosophies and writings of the modern philosophers (of the past 300+ years to present) influenced the ‘reforms’ of the Church and the minds of the hierarchy. This dis-connect is very deep and we must remember as Father Ripperger amply demonstrates that we are usually speaking to neo-Catholics in an alien language – they simply cannot understand us.
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Please read this article. It is a gold mine of information about the recent past, how important the past is, how the magisterium has been perverted to mean something different from what we understand…and much more. We have a very long road ahead of us to overcome the modern ways, because they are ingrained in the very minds of most people, the hierarchy, and certainly the current pope.
P.S. reading the footnotes of the above article is worth the effort! Our Dear Loving Father in Heaven is so good to us – He sends us philosophers and theologians that have a true understanding of reality, human nature, and the role of Holy Mother Church in our salvation. Deo Gratias for Father Ripperger.
Dear Barbara, Supertradmum, on her blog, Etheldreda’s Place, is always recommending Fr Ripperger. He is an exorcist and says many people are suffering from oppression of possession.
Link to fr chad ripperger talks and sermons from 5mins to over an hour
http://www.sensustraditionis.org/multimedia.html
Dear Barbara,
It seems a very good reference piece for formally identifying the various evil philosophical influences which led to the current crisis.
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One example that comes readily to mind reading it, is the rejection of former anathemas with which the Church implemented the will of God found in Our Lord’s words in Matthew and Revelations, and those in St. John and St. Paul’s writings-regarding those who choose to live in unrepentant sin, or reject the teachings after being admonished twice –i.e. to “Treat them as you would heathens and tax collectors” ;”Do -not even open the door to those who teach another doctrine” and ” “Avoid these” not to “tolerate the Jezebel” in their midst.
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People with whom we’ve discussed that issue, often point to the enthusiasm of Thomas Aquinas and others who endorsed “shunning” and even the burning of heretics– as their examples of why the thinking of the past obviously must give way to that of the present.
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What this article points out about that is significant. If people had not exchanged the rational thinking of the past for the emotion-based ideas of the present, they would more likely be consider reasons for such apparently harsh punishments as realistic– due to the gravity and corruptive influences of such sins as heresy; and why such inducements to return to Grace before receiving such punishments were not only accepted by the Church, but by the general populace, as necessary for the protection of society. Today, they focus on the pain or alienation and rejection in this present life without considering eternal happiness or punishment. As a result, “shunning” anyone has become anathema, and society is now so tolerant of unrepentant evildoers that those who dare speak the truth about sin to them, are to be repressed and punished.
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Pope Francis latest homily is a good example. http://www.wsj.com/articles/pope-francis-calls-for-more-church-openness-1436728106
ASUNCIÓN, Paraguay— Pope Francis called for a more welcoming Catholic church, open even to those don’t accept its teachings..
… to hundreds of thousands of people at a military air base on the outskirts of Paraguay’s capital city on Sunday, the pontiff taught a lesson in how the church should—and shouldn’t—attempt to spread the Gospel.
He called for “welcoming those who do not think as we do, who do not have faith or who have lost it, at times through our own fault. Welcoming the persecuted, the unemployed. Welcoming the different cultures, with which this land is so richly blessed. Welcoming sinners..”
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Our Lord called us to teach them the Truth about their need to repent of sin and be Baptized; not to welcome them regardless of their rejection of His Salvation.
Full Statement can be read here:
https://sarmaticusblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/11/t-107-starting-to-stop-the-madness/
The full “Lake Garda” statement issued by the “Roman Forum” mentioned above, can be read here:
https://sarmaticusblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/11/t-107-starting-to-stop-the-madness/
Welp! Pope Francis has confirmed that he actually was not offended by the ‘gift.’
In fact not only was he not offended, he PRESENTED THESE GIFTS TO OUR LADY!!!!!
http://www.onepeterfive.com/pope-francis-on-communist-crucifix-it-wasnt-an-offense/
What will the papal-excusers say now?! That maybe Pope Francis was asking our Lady to destroy them??? I could see them stretching this in that direction.
Yes, the Lake Garda statement is terrific. These guys are such terrific writers! Blows me away…I wonder where this will go?
Yes, Linda and Father Ripperger has a prayer group called Auxilium Christianorum. Here are the aims of the association:
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To provide prayers for those priests associated with the Auxilium Christianorum so that their apostolate in driving out the demons is efficacious. To provide prayers for the protection of the priests, members of the Association and their families and friends so that they are not adversely affected by the demonic.
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There is a set of prayers, which I believe you can get from the above named site. It’s quite a commitment as the prayers are not short and must be prayed daily.
And you, Lynda, are a neurotic, obsessive compulsive bog-trotting, blog hopping wing nut. Anybody so possessed with as much hatred as your are, is in huge psychological trouble.
Get help before it’s too late.
You have a thoroughly disordered understanding of faith and you certainly give little or no evidence of possessing much in the way of reason.
You can’t even come up with a decent account of the Natural Law and its deemed contents.
Barking mad bog-trotter.
“…With respect to the Synod, we urgently petition [belial] to put a stop to…” –
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1 Kings 3:9 “Give therefore, thy servant an understanding heart, to judge Thy people and discern between good and evil.” “Every man is like a tree in the moral order, yielding a certain kind of fruit. If we wish to form a judgement about him it is enough to wait for and examine his fruits, that is his conduct, deeds and words which wll betray his inmost nature; we judge of the cause by its effect (Fillion)” Matthew 7: 15-21 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit.Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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Sadly the men who signed the ‘Lake Garda’ statement continue to evince a dearth of good judgment in seeking to remedy attacks upon the Faith by appealing to the enemies doing the attacking. If St Paul had continued to appeal to the Jewish leaders, he would have been killed.
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Acts 28: 25-28 “And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, Paul speaking this one word: Well did the Holy Ghost speak to our fathers by Isaias the prophet, Saying: Go to this people, and say to them: With the ear you shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears have they heard heavily, and their eyes they have shut; lest perhaps they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.” — The signators of the Lake Garda document – what wisdom or good judgement do they show in appealing to the “obstinate Jews”/faithless Novus Ordo institution? Worse, such appeals say publicly, see people of the world and the ‘church’, this anti-Catholic, anti-papal institution created by Lutherans and all manner of heretics and apostates IS the ‘catholic church’. Worse yet, what it shows is that every man who signed the document believes that the visible Bride of Christ can become and is, a whore.
And you, David Timbs, need a damn good hiding, you dumb red-neck, for talking to a lovely lady like Lynda like that! How I wish I could give you one, you dumb prick! You need help you arse-hole!
What can we expect from a pope who went to Korea without saying a word about NKorean communist dreadful regime and concentration camps martyrising its people decades after decades, about the nightmarish lot of cats and dogs barbarously treated and slaughtered in Far-East from centuries on, a pope who is far away from earth to earth practical political national problems and force Europe to greet days after days potential criminals, terrorists, ill people in spite of its own awful financial difficulties, a pope whose only wish sounds like flattering mankind and never asking for praise, thankfulness or contrition to the Almighty from men, a pope who doesn’t seem to acknowledge the Turin Shroud as Our Lord Jesus’ One?
We hate that leftist pope. He shames Saint Francis.