As those who follow me on Facebook are likely already aware, the day after The Catholic Inquisitor was announced on these pages, Karl Keating – the poster-patriarch of Newchurch apologetics – rushed to social media to pronounce the effort dead:
THIS NEW TRADITIONALIST NEWSPAPER WILL GO NOWHERE
For the benefit of those unfamiliar with me, Keating offered a brief bio:
At one time Verrecchio traveled the country giving lectures explaining–and defending–Vatican II. He wrote a workbook about the council; it received an imprimatur, and it got endorsements from several prelates. Within a few years, though, he had turned his back on his previous work, declared himself a Traditionalist, and zoomed from the “Novus Ordo Church” to the far end of the Traditionalist spectrum. Today he is one of the bitterest American opponents of Pope Francis.
With the exception of his failure to point out that “the far end of the Traditionalist spectrum” is really nothing other than what every Holy Roman Pontiff prior to Vatican Council II would simply call “Catholic,” I have to say that he nailed it.
Keating then set about dissecting the video that I posted on the Inquisitor website:
Keating explains:
Verrecchio claims that “conservative Churchmen routinely lead the people astray.” While he says that, the images are of Cardinals Sarah, M üller, and Burke. Verrecchio says that people “working in Catholic media have a serious obligation to confront these ideas [and apparently these men] head on.”
He complains that other apostolates are “no longer willing to do this work.” Someone has to take up the task, and it will be Verrecchio and those he has gathered as contributors to “The Catholic Inquisitor”: Cornelia Ferreira, Peter Chojnowski, Randy Engel, and John W. Proctor–names familiar to those who already have been reading “The Remnant” or “Catholic Family News.”
Now, one would think that a Newchurch apologist extraordinaire like Karl Keating would take issue first and foremost with the claim that souls are being led astray by conservatives like himself, but he doesn’t.
And why not?
Well, because the salvation of souls is no longer the primary concern of men like Karl Keating (if it ever was); no more than it was for the Second Vatican Council, which only gave lip service to the doctrine extra Ecclesiam nulla salus as it labored to heap praise upon the false religions of the world; even going so far as to assure the Jews that they are one with us in the very Cross that they consider folly, and comforting heretics with guarantees that Jesus Christ uses their error-ridden communities as “means of salvation.”
In any event, Keating finally gets to the meat of his post; namely, forecasting the death of The Catholic Inquisitor even before it is properly born:
I predict his project isn’t going to go anywhere, for several reasons.
If you read his rant in its fullness (via the hyperlinked title at the top of this post) expecting that at least one of those reasons is that he doesn’t believe that the effort is based in truth as understood and taught by the Church, you will be disappointed.
You see, the major problem with this effort as Keating sees it comes down to three things: marketing, economics, and customer acquisition.
Hey, let us at least give Keating credit for staying true to his guiding principles as this is precisely the way he built Catholic Answers, and it is precisely how the aposto-business continues to be run even today.
Whether or not the truth is being defended and taught in its fullness, whether or not grave errors against the Faith are being exposed and condemned – these are of no real concern to such men.
And why not?
For one reason and one reason alone – those kinds of things are rather unpopular with potential supporters at large and thus can only have an adverse effect on the bottom line.
Indeed, Karl Keating really does understand the “business side” of this “apostolate” thing far better than I do. If nothing else, he’s proven that much over the years.
Unfortunately, his school of thought – one that places far too much emphasis on building supporters, even if it means overlooking grave errors – is no longer the exclusive franchise of neo-cons, which is precisely why The Catholic Inquisitor is so very necessary.
Are the odds against the newspaper being launched, much less flourishing? Probably.
Do I risk exhausting myself physically and financially trying to make a go of it? Sure.
At the end of the day, however, I won’t be looking at a balance sheet in order to gage the success or failure of this venture as there is no entry to be found there for the glory of God and the salvation of souls.
In conclusion, it has been suggested to me that Karl Keating’s transparent desire to see the newspaper fail indicates that the prospect of it doing otherwise makes him nervous.
I’m not so sure about that, but one thing is certain – those who have their eyes opened by The Catholic Inquisitor will be able to see Catholic Answers and the concilar Newchurch that they labor to build for what they truly are, and the picture isn’t pretty.
At this juncture, however, I have to admit that Keating may be right; i.e., this effort might not even get off the ground even though we’re making good progress toward our goal.
I know it’s asking a lot of people to roll the dice on a publication that doesn’t yet even exist. Even so, if you’re able, take a leap of faith – not so much with me, Cornelia, Peter, Randy, John and our other contributors – but with Our Lord and Our Lady.
Let’s all find out together where they wish to lead us in this venture!
Not to make light of the commitment, but seriously, folks, given the putrid state of ecclesial affairs today, what do we have to lose?
Then there’s the Michael Voris semi-selective sell out business model to consider.
The controlled opposition recognizes you as a “threat” to surveil. This in combination with the paid trolls in your AKA comments is quite a compliment. You’re renting space in their heads for free. Well done Louis!
Wow is Keating lugging around a huge basket of rotten ole Vatican Two fruits !
How he will defend these fruits as good to consume is beyond my comprehension.
Perhaps he will wash polish and present “frs” James Martin Rosica , Paglia ,Wuerl and Dolan along with their hero Borgoglio? You have to admit he has plenty of material to shape and form into something that appears remotely Catholic. I wouldn’t want to take on that job !
Louie, perhaps you should thank Keating for the publicity. How many Catholics out there are tired of the so-called “traditional” newspapers which never get off the fence. Onward and Upward!
All I can say is, Catholic Answers??? LOL
Does this guy look like he’s light in his loafers or what? I don’t think I ever saw a picture of him before.
Not sure you know what a troll actually is. But I can assure you nobody is spending money to have this combox trolled.
Harvey Weinstein didn’t know he was a sexual predator either.
May God bless your effort , Louie. I have already signed up and will commit to two gift subscriptions. Thank you for fighting the good fight and defending the Catholic faith, the one outside of which souls cannot be saved.
The expression screams, “I’m really really an honest loving sincere and holy person”……….just a bit too much.
We’re telling everyone we know and sharing it around amongst our traddie fb pages!
I don’t know who this karl guy is, but I do know that I have found The Mass, and it is magnificent. There is no discussion necessary. No debating it. It Is. Something obviously went very wrong in the 1960s. Very wrong. And that did not happen overnight. It was planned. Our Lady of Fatima tried to warn us. I will pray for this Karl, that he is given the Grace to see. It is Magestic, Karl, just beautiful and uncomparable. Once you see it, It is undeniable. I pray God gives you the Graces and opens your eyes. I want everyone to know about this Mass that is suppressed. I could imagine that the powers of hell would attack it. There is something about it that illicits much persecution to those who find it and love it. Much persecution. I know very well that type of anger masquerading as charity. Very see through to me and always cookie cutter the same. Quite unattractive and see through. I mean it…always the same and ugly too.
Many of you reading this know what I’m talking about. I pray for your perseverance, Louie. I appreciate your courageous fight and love for the Truth.
This earth is not our final resting place.
ROFL!
Yes Cortez, the true Catholic Mass is indeed a beautiful thing. It is the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven. Not only is it pleasing to our senses, but more importantly is instructs our intellect. The Eastern Catholics have a beautiful liturgy too. It is very different in its appearence but in its essentials it is the same Holy Sacrifice of the Roman Rite. That is the true beauty of the True Mass whether Roman or Divine Liturgy. It is Truth and it promotes Truth in every liturgical action and in every prayer. That is why the new fake mass is such a blasphemy. It mocks what God Himself created and revealed.
Someone just emailed me this . It must have been very difficult for him to revisit his past and bring this up again and it took him a few days but at least he said it.So good for him because it needs to be driven home to the publich who just does not get it. Abuse begets abuse ,unless someone steps in and breaks to trajectory.
“No one is born gay.
They are traumatized into it, raped into it, abused emotionally into it, deprived of an authentic masculine presence into it and even coached into it by predatory men — some of whom are priests. I’d like the man who is currently pope to look me in the eye and tell me God made me the way I used to live and therefore intends me to be that way and was happy with it and would have no problem with me returning to it, because after all, He made me that way.
You can imagine what my answer back would be. My answer to the very fallible man with a very errnant, very personal opinion who just happens to also be pope, for now.
Pray for him and the gang of perverted men around him.”
Sadly he still shields Borgolio in all his errors because he is called Pope. Dr Bill Marra wrote a great piece on Papolatry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1275634/posts
“elicits”
As a general rule : don’t trust celebrity priests and others making money off of the Gospel.
Didache Ch XI
“And concerning the Apostles and Prophets, act thus according to the ordinance of the Gospel. Let every Apostle who comes to you be received as the Lord,
But let him not stay more than one day, or if need be a second as well; but if he stay three days, he is a false prophet.
And when an Apostle goes forth let him accept nothing but bread till he reach his night’s lodging; but if he ask for money, he is a false prophet. “
Sweep, you are flirting with heresy and teaching error by implying that a Pope can be fallible when teaching on matters of faith and morals. He is certainly fallible when he teaches on subjects like the environment. But when it comes to faith and morals, the Catholic faith teaches that the Pope is protected by the Holy Ghost from error in his solemn extraordinary magesterium (ie ex cathedra) and in his ordinary magesterium (ie encyclicals, canon laws). For if he were fallible in any way with regards to faith and morals, then the Church would have no use for a Pope other than some sort of administrative purposes. The fact that this man spews heresies and blasphemies not only in his speech but also in his official documents can only have one logical possible conclusion. While the other conciliar popes were not as blatant, they too officially promulgated many hereises that should lead one to the same conclusion.
Well good luck to Karl Keating polishing this fruit of Vatican Two.
This is one comment I read under Voris’ latest diatribe against the “born that way” comment alleged from Borgolio.Anyone recall being banned if you said anything negative ,even with respect, against Pope Francis on churchmilitant?
The Vatican is in BIG trouble with this present occupant of the Chair.
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San Miguel defiendenos • 2 hours ago
“Bergoglio in Argentina taught psychology, where he corrupted a student Yayo Grassi confirming him in the vice of sodomy. He himself testifies that Bergoglio approved his homosexual behavior and that he knew his boyfriends and that he owes Bergoglio his open mind.
The Guardian: Austen Ivereigh, who has written a biography of the pope, said Francis had likely made similar comments in private in the past, when he served as a spiritual director to gay people in Buenos Aires, but that Cruz’s public discussion of his conversation with Francis represented the most “forceful” remarks on the subject since 2013.”
Voris’ statement was that this was a private comment and not subject to infallibility. Personally I think the Holy Ghost took the first train to he coast when the masons and communists moved into Vatican City.
Oh was that Voris who said that? My apologies. Noce nod to Don McLean.
Who can forget Voris’ attacks on those who dared to criticize the “pope”? Who can forget his “policy” never to criticize the “pope”?
The fact that he is allowing this to some extent and even questioning Francis himself is a sign that there might be hope for him yet.
Is it logical to assume that Bergoglio is gay?
It would be a good bet anyway.
It’s just as logical as assuming you are gay.
A certain troll ( or just ill informed person)asked me on another page if I even ever met a gay person.
If you have “RoS” on your bookshelf note the foreward n the book by Ann Cillis. “Now you are one of us.” I asked the author why she accredited Mrs Cillis when it was I who told her the real life stories of so many I knew.. Answer: “You were not the only one, a lot of people have told me that while researching this book.”
Voris knows it .Scambria knows it and the author of that book knew it. Lawyers who defend the victims of adult sodomites also know it and have told me so .
One Detective who worked for RCF and state social services for decades investigating these kinds of cases after he retired doing the same for law enforcement, also confirmed it to me . It’s one big dirty secret used to propagate their own.
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For Borgolio to teach Psyche and become a SD for a group of them in Argentina and make that statement? My educated guess is yes, and that is why he was elected .
Here’s the Pope’s close friend , Yayo, and are we surprised to see James Martin on the podium with him? Personally I always told the sodomites whom I listened to what God’s Word says about the vice. Yayo does not tell us his Pope friend ever did. If he does not preach the Truth of Jesus Christ first and foremost ,he is NO true Apostle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrzclkqHQ9s
I remember reading in a science journal that the most common trait, though not absolute, that homosexuals shared was a poor rapport with the same sex parent during childhood. The critical years be 0-9 years old. This fits with precision for the few homosexuals that I know.
Louie,
Mr. Keating’s concerns on the economics side of things reflects the remarks made to us by a very well-known FSSP priest: “it’s all about market-share”. I never considered myself, a Roman Catholic parishioner, as “market-share” and for sure I never dreamed that a ” golden-mouthed priest” would look at us laymen that way. The whole Novus Ordo system is based on big numbers and big bucks, regardless of which “Mass” is prayed. No wonder the true Catholic Faith and Priesthood was discarded–it just doesn’t sell.
Interesting indeed. My cousin is a homosexual and he absolutely had a bad relationship with his father.
Based upon this comments section:
Question: Is Karl Keating correct that there is not a market for an extreme-right, Bennyvacantist newspaper and that such newspaper cannot be economically viable?
Objection 1: Karl Keating is gay.
Objection 2: Pope Francis is gay.
Sed contra: Sed evecantist!
Respondeo: This sort of reaction of the “most disgruntled” would seem to affirm what Karl Keating wrote.
Reply Obj. 1: Nope.
Reply Obj. 2: Nope.
Please link to any words from this alleged Pope in which he publicly reiterates the Word Of God as taught throughout Church History regarding the serious sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance , called sodomy.
Nada, instead he preaches homophobia as do you.
mpoulin: why did you skip over #1 and #2 in the Didache Ch XI?:
1. Whosoever then comes and teaches you all these things aforesaid, receive him.
2. But if the teacher himself be perverted and teach another doctrine to destroy these things, do not listen to him, but if his teaching be for the increase of righteousness and knowledge of the Lord, receive him as the Lord.
And:
8. But not everyone who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, except he have the behaviour of the Lord. From his behaviour, then, the false prophet and the true prophet shall be known.
This is the Word of God.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/sodomy
As an alleged Successor of St Peter , this is what the Pope should be preaching and it is not homophobic , it IS the Truth.
One might ask , why isn’t he preaching this in order to save souls?
Instead he appoints a plethora of perverted men to positions of authority in the Church and does not contradict his homosexual friend’s public repetition that he told him he was ,”born that way”.
Please see video of Borgolio’s friend, Yayo, speaking at a conference for “fr” James Martin.
Logical conclusion?
Borgolio is like minded at the very least. a homosexual Prelate , at the very worst.
Although I do not particulary care for this group ( because a hx young man who came to me for catechetical instruction complained to me he attended and found that sharing perverted experiences in group session caused him to think about more perverse acts)
However, even this Courage priest corrects ‘born that way”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHB47NOA9E
IMHO,
http://stumblingblock.org/?p=12139
Something worth listening to.
Our Lady, of Quito in which Our Lady warned that, ”He who should speak seasonably will remain silent”
2 Cents I posted a video somewhere here in which” fr” James Martin has Yayo, Borgolio’s close friend from Argentina, on the podium. Yayo tells how he called Borgolio to complain that the newspapers there said he was against same sex marriage. He alleges Borgolio apologized to him
and denied he ever said that. How very Apostolic !
Here it is again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrzclkqHQ9s
Are you getting a subscription?
Pope Francis, however flawed, is the head of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Crackpot theories like Bennyvacantism, Sedevacantism, and Home Aloneism run counter to Church teaching and common sense. So, no, I won’t be putting money behind a newspaper or any effort that supports these sorts of things.
That’s sad because maybe you could have learned something about what the Church has always taught.
Disagreement is one thing….but when you start saying “crackpot theories” thats when I lose respect for you. I dare you to openly debate a true sede (and let us know where we can hear the debate). Simple sedevacantism is MILES away from some “crackpot theory”.
As a sede I have no doubt that what I believe is correct, but you’ll never hear me calling a trad a “crackpot”. Yes, I believe that they are wrong, but a crackpot?? Not even close. Learn some respect.
Sedevacantism relies upon personal interpretation of Canon Law and writings of the Church Fathers, personal judgment of the Pope, both reinforced with either vague and questionable personal revelation or made-up “revelation” like the supposedly missing 3rd secret of Fatima. If you choose to build your house on that kind of shifting sand and then yell to the billion+ Catholics who disagree that you’re right, sorry, that’s crackpottery.
Trads love to quote that phrase “by their fruits you shall know them.” Doesn’t get much fruitier than sede public faces, like Fr. Kramer.
Sedevacantism relies on NOTHING personally interpreted (good grief already with that nonsense), it relies strictly on submission to our Faith. WE are not picking and choosing….WE are the ones who remain absolute.
Again though, Im not going to demean a trad. I was a trad not even 5 years ago.
Blunder, you know what runs counter to your church teaching? Yout church teaching.
To me, it looks like if the picture was moving he would be batting his eyelashes.
Louis, you asked us to share the message about The Catholic Inquisitor on social media. I shared your Catholic Inquisitor promo video on my YouTube channel and it garnered over 1000 views over the weekend. Hopefully you got some more subscriptions out of that. Here is where I posted it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuaJUlObMJE