On May 21st, the Holy See issued a dubious statement with quotes attributed to Benedict XVI wherein the Pope Contemplatus allegedly claimed “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima;” much less ever told him that the publication of the Third Secret is incomplete.
The neo-conservatives naturally gobbled it up; with certain Ratzingerian Muskateers expressing hope that the episode should henceforth be put to rest.
The following day, Bishop Hector Cardelli of San Nicolas in Argentina’s Buenos Aires province set Cotton Candy Catholicland all abuzz yet again by announcing his approval of a local Marian apparition that would make Our Lady’s six measly appearances at Fatima seem all-the-more forgettable still.
According to a report from the Bergoglian News Agency (otherwise known as CNA):
A Marian apparition has been approved in Argentina – and it’s a big deal
Oh, it’s a big deal alright. How big is it? More than 1,800 messages big, and that’s just the ones that have been made public!
As the story goes, the Blessed Virgin allegedly appeared (and according to CNA, continues to appear) to a woman named Gladys Quiroga practically every day for more than six years beginning on October 13, 1983.
That’s right, the first message supposedly came to Gladys on the anniversary of Our Lady’s final appearance at Fatima – the day of the Miracle of the Sun – and yet according to the visionary, the Virgin Mother didn’t mention Fatima at all; at least not until September 13, 1985 when she allegedly said:
“Yes, this is my day, daughter. The thirteenth of each month was chosen by me, to leave my messages in Fatima, and the principal cause, the conversion of the poor sinners.”
This raises a red flag…
Yes, Our Blessed Lady is always first and foremost concerned with the conversion of poor sinners, but it is a well-known ploy of the enemies of Fatima to reduce her appearance there to nothing more than this in order to divert attention away from her true purpose:
I am worried by the Blessed Virgin’s messages to Lucy of Fatima. This persistence of Mary about the dangers which menace the Church is a divine warning against the suicide of altering the Faith, in Her liturgy, Her theology and Her soul… (Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli)
Indeed, there is every reason to believe that Our Lady’s warnings concern precisely what Fr. Dollinger claimed (on more than one occasion) that he was told by Cardinal Ratzinger; namely, “a bad council and a bad Mass.”
Be that as it may, Bishop Cardelli joyfully announced:
…the supernatural nature of the happy events with which God through his beloved daughter, Jesus through his Most Holy Mother, the Holy Spirit through his beloved spouse, has desired to lovingly manifest himself in our diocese.
Even if one were to take Bishop Cardelli’s conclusions seriously, they don’t constitute the approval of the Holy See, of course.
That, however, didn’t stop CNA from incinerating whatever remaining shred of credibility it may have still had by quoting “Michael O’Neil, a miracle researcher” as saying of the alleged appearances of Mary to Gladys Quiroga:
“That puts it on par with Lourdes, Fatima and Guadalupe.”
Yea, sure it does, and John Paul the Great Ecumenist is a saint.
Which brings me to yet another red flag. (H/T to Laramie Hirsch for calling my attention to this.)
According to Gladys, in a message given on October 27, 1986, which she noted as being the day that Pope John Paul II convened the first of the two “Assisi Interreligious Prayer for Peace” gatherings over which he would preside, Our Lady allegedly said:
“My dear daughter, today, prayer will grow generously on this day on which the Pope, knowing what the Lord expects of him, fights for peace, that much desired peace that the world needs so. My beloved children, the priests must follow the Pope, walking with him, as it is to walk with Christ Himself!
John Paul II is faithful and consecrated to the Mother’s Heart, fears nothing, goes where the Mother calls him, overcoming every obstacle. He trusts the Mother and feels sure that in the most difficult moments, the Mother is with him. His heart, so often pierced by Christ’s adversaries, continues to be strengthened by Christ.”
This message is clearly intended as a counter assault against the messages of Our Lady as given at Fatima. In other words, it comes straight from the Devil’s mouth.
If, indeed, the consecration of Russia had already taken place in 1984 in such way as to meet with Our Lady’s approval (as the enemies of Fatima claim) – the same that she had promised would bring about that much desired peace that the world needs so – then why would it be necessary for John Paul II to continue fighting for peace in 1986?
All of this said, since the Assisi debacle of 1986 (wherein a statue of Buddha was placed for veneration on top of the tabernacle, no less!) is obviously not what the Lord expects of His vicar, it doesn’t take a wealth of insight into the messages of Fatima in order to realize that the aforementioned approval of Bishop Cardelli is not so much a “big deal” as it is a big joke.
Rather, all it takes is a drop of sensus Catholicus, and unfortunately, Bishop Cardelli, like the overwhelming majority of the rest of the episcopal lot, lacks it.
Bottom line: The messages recorded by Gladys Quiroga are not of supernatural origin; they are flat out diabolical.
Avoid them like the plague.
The same applies to Medjugorje also.
Now the false conciliar church as their own apparitions to complement their own mass, their own sacraments, their own saints, their own rosary, their own Stations, etc.
Only a fool would say that this is not a completely different religion.
Bottom line: The messages recorded by Gladys Quiroga are not of supernatural origin; they are flat out diabolical. Avoid them like the plague.”
Funny how you (and no doubt your collegial fellow lay popes/synod/council/ of Siscoe, Salza, Ferrara, Matt & Venarri (whole Fatima Center, Rome & Chartres & Lake Como resort conference vacation Crowd) can judge an ‘apparition’–and yet the ‘new mass’ (which you claim is not of supernatural origin) is fine to attend (as long as Francis says it’s okay, it is!) and the Archdiocese of Baltimore ain’t flat out diabolical and no plague at St. Alphonsus—yet they’re baptizing sodomites’ ‘children,’ leading teens to march in sodomite ‘pride’ parades and exposing them to transgender porn shows–whoa! what a relief for all Our Lady’s Baltimore ‘manly’ men: the devil’s in Argentina!
At 1:32 –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn-p8ZHDRP4
http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/1/11/watch-inside-lgbt-friendly-catholic-church
Archbishop Lefebvre:
“Rome is in darkness, because Rome at present can no longer hear the voice of truth -Rome no longer hears the voice of truth. Then what are we to do? What answer has there been to our appeals? For 20 years now I have been going to Rome. I have been writing, I have been speaking, I have been sending documents to say to them: -“Follow Tradition, come back to Tradition, otherwise the Church will be ruined. You, the appointed successors of those who built the Church, you must continue to build and not to demolish!” They are deaf, stone deaf to our appeals.
… They are shutting themselves up in their errors, they are shutting themselves up in darkness, and they are quite simply going to lead souls into apostasy, the ruination of the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the ruination of the Catholic and Christian Faith…
..They would not reveal her Third Secret, they buried the message of the Virgin Mary. No doubt this message was meant to prevent what is happening today. Had her message been made known, most likely we would not be where we are today, the situation in Rome, would not be what it is today. The Pope refused to make public the Virgin Mary’s message: well, the punishments foretold by Mary are coming: the apostasy announced in Scripture is on its way; the coming of the Anti-Christ draws near, as is perfectly obvious.”
Thank you for your ongoing quotes from Archbishop Lefebvre! They are consistent in their faithfulness to the Church, AKA Catholic, and only now are more and more people coming to realize just how prophetic and correct he was. Santo subito! And yet this crew actually “canonized” John Paul the Fake. Buddha on top of a tabernacle, indeed.
I’m beginning to think the Russian flag flying over St. Peter’s in Rome may well be the answer to this convoluted mess of Vatican II. God works is strange ways.
God’s love to Louie and those of you who come here for insight.
Reaching for my Rosary.
TWN, I don’t think Louie etc. (those you mentioned) think it is fine to attend the N.O. “mass”. On the contrary, they make it clear that this “mass” is a fabrication of man purposely intended to destroy the faith. I am most certain that those you have mentioned would NEVER attend this “mass” and have consistently given grave warnings regarding its dangers to the faith. If I am mistaken, I certainly would appreciate quotes or resources which validate your claim. Also, these same folk have consistently demonstrated that they do NOT believe that anything Francis says is OK. Why don’t you visit The Remnant website and read the numerous articles which prove this. Also, why would The Remnant publish a petition asking Francis to change course or resign? Please clarify your statement not only for me but for all who visit this blog.
On October 24, 2003, a Hindhu Priest was allowed to offer his prayer from the Capelinaha at Fatima. Two years later, the SSPX led a pilgrimage of reparation to the Shrine. When they went inside of the Church, women were vacuuming in the middle of the day, which is unheard of. When they prayed the Rosary outside in Latin, four nuns appeared and using a microphone, sang hymns in an attempt to drown out the prayer of thousands. When this didn’t work, Shrine Officials used the state of the art sound system and played hymns at full volume.
Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen cautioned, “Do not expect the satanic to look satanic.” Giving Judas as an example, the Archbishop said that when Satan entered into Judas at the Last Supper, the Apostles saw no change in him. When Judas left to betray Our Lard, the Apostles thought he went to purchase something for Passover or to give money to the poor.
Hello, would you be so kind as to tell us the source of this quote? I’d like to read further…
I had not heard of this diabolical visionary, Gladys Quiroga.
For sure, this fake “virgin mary” did not get the memo from heaven that the ONLY peace plan was to be the proper consecration of Russia, according to, and as commanded by Our Blessed Mother.
Absolutely !!!
What an awesome quote, maryiloveher.
Thank you.
Reaching for mine, too.
Fr. Gruner’s article here on TIA is a similar story.
Fatima Shrine Rector Msgr. Luciano Guerra, on May 5, 2004, allowed and encouraged the Hindu ritual at the Fatima Shrine.
Fr. Gruner’s article (written in his characteristic humble tone) is entitled “Prelude to Antichrist: Guerra’s Lesson for Us All.”
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bestof/bst007Gruner.htm
https://churchpop.com/2016/05/23/secret-messages-lady-san-nicolas-newly-approved-vision/
Yes, no need to trust anything after V2. Our Lady’s requests at Fatima are still not granted. So ridiculous. That’s certainly not my Mother’s voice.
These quotes are from Archbishop Lefebvre’s sermon at the priestly ordinations in Ecône, June 29, 1987.
Yep. The West will continue to goad Russia into WWIII (as they’ve been doing ever since Putin messed up the Syrian invasion plans a few years back).
Possible scenario could be Russia sweeps through Europe while the China situation explodes in the Far East. Full blown material Chastisement we’re talking. Somewhere along the way, whoever the real pope is and the real bishops who are left do the consecration. Bingo, miraculous conversion of the invading Russian army happens. Now we’ve got a Catholic Christian Army vs all the evil Western NWO powers, the Mohammedans, and the Chinese.
Somewhere along the way, perhaps the prophesied Great Monarch comes on the scene.
Maybe.
Just speculation on my part.
+2 on this. Mediocreorje and this Argentinian joke are both fakes. This new one must be a well-planned out trap by “Pope” Francis to entice those attracted to private devotions. Whoever is responsible for this hoax should burn in hell.
I second that!
If there is a new apparition of Our Lady and Her first message is: “Francis is a heretic. He must GO!!”, while maybe then I’ll be a believer!
I “slept through” the papacy of JPII because I lost my faith in those years so I went looking for the Assisi/Buddha/tabernacle thing to clarify what you wrote. Much to my disappointment I found these images:
http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A430rcAssisi1986.html
We have a priest, I should say, we have a tortured priest, at our Church who is also a Buddhist sensei master and claims that without this, he could not be the Catholic?/Christian? that he is. He has taught me a lot about how fragile faith can be especially when you think (or learned) too much as this most educated priest does. It seems to be utter rubbish to even pretend sacredness to a strange god when the one true God is manifest and sacrificed on the altar at every Mass.
Not only was the Buddha placed on top of that Tabernacle, the statue of Our Lady of Fatima carried by pious Catholics, was refused entry into the same church. Our Lady’s statue had to spend the night outside. May I suggest that paybacks are hell?
In a broken Baltimore diocese, Our Lord chose to preserve the beauty of a very old, weathered, yet extremely beautiful church, St. Alphonsus. It’s in the heart of Baltimore, a very rough area, which makes it difficult for me and my young children to attend safely. But I would encourage anyone visiting the area to venture out to St. Alphonsus. Even before I had a clue that there were any problems in the Church, I felt so different whenever I entered through those doors. I sensed something special something from another time of which I’ve never known. Beauty remains there. Hopefully one day those doors will know the complete restoration of the Church. I often times tell my children that we are all victims of Vatican 2. I also remind them that KNOWING that there are problems in the Church, and there are many, WILL NOT get you to heaven-even if you knew them all.
Yes, Cortez. I have been to St. Alphonsus, too.
It is beautiful.
I guess I missed the part where we find out how Louie Verrecchio and the other “just” men mentioned above are responsible for all the problems in the diocese of Baltimore and in the whole Church.
Please spare us the rants.
Go back to Catholic Answers Forums where you belong, with all the other neo-cons.
Praying to Buddha (or any other pagan god) for peace (or anything else) would have the same effect as praying to the Statue of Liberty.
Knowing there ate problems in the church doesn’t guarantee Heaven for anyone.
TWN–This is for you!!!
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/remnant-tv/item/2561-francis-goes-to-hollywood-honors-clooney-gere-and-hayek
Careful with that kind of thinking, brother. Satan is not above using anything, even that, as a ploy to hook true believers. (example- Maria Divine Mercy)
Agreed! That’s why I said “maybe”. Satan (and his friends) are capable of anything, for sure!
Here’s other elements of discernment for those who doubt that those apparitions are from Satan.
In all the messages, “Heaven” is mentioned many times, but not in the context of the Last Things. It is not clear if everybody will be saved, regardless of if they repent or not. It is as if all the messages are meant to help us be happy on this earth.
“death” (eternal death) is mentioned sometimes in the context of judgment, but it seems easy to get saved.
“Sins” is mentioned many times, but in the same understanding that Jorge Bergoglio has. God loves us even if we sin, etc. That’s true in a way, but the messages do not say that we will be damned if we do no repent. It is as if we only need to have faith in Jesus to be saved, like the protestants.
In all the messages, the word “hell” is not mentioned once. A big red flag, and maybe the biggest problem.
Those messages are so different in tone and content from those of real heavenly apparitions that it could only come from Satan. For exemple, the messages to Marie-Julie Jahenny are so different. Even more so with Fatima. The focus is on the the four Last Things (like in the Gospel) contrary to this demonic apparition that focus on earthly peace.
The life of the seer is not very well known. Apparently she lives in seclusion to not get attention, and it apparently proves her humility. For my part, I think that’s because she wants to hide something …
Sure this apparition is “orthodox” in the light of Vatican II. I am not surprised it has been approved.
And what about her stigmata ?
The stigmata are on her wrists. Most of the real stigmatists, if not all, had their stigmata in the palm of the hand. That’s a small red flag.
I searched the internet for some pictures of the ectasies with their stigmata and found nothing. That’s odd. I understand that the authorities don’t want to make a fuss about it, if that was true. But with the few contemporary real seers (like Mirna of Soufanieh), some pictures and videos are available to prove that it comes from God.
Stigmata could also come from Satan. We need to be careful about that. Satan have the power to work natural wonders. Everything that could be done with the help of the highest technology could also be done by Satan, if permitted by God. Permission from God to work wonders could be given to him so that he could deceive those that want to be deceived. That’s why it’s easier to unmask a false apparition by checking doctrinal problems in the messages.
Thank you Mr Verrecchio. I think you are the only one so far that have correctly tackled this subject. There’s so much confusion everywhere !