{Nota prævia: This article was first published, in its substantial form, in the Catholic blog, OnePeterFive. It is now being published here on Harvesting the Fruit, somewhat modified}.
First of all, let us begin with this certitude of our holy Catholic Faith: anything—and I do mean anything at all—that harms the priesthood in any way, shape or form, starting with the seminary life, most definitely comes straight from the Evil One. Of this we can be quite sure. Why? Because the Catholic Priesthood is the sublime, sacramental participation of those men who are called to this vocation, in the eternal High Priesthood of Our Lord, Jesus Christ, by which we are redeemed of our sins.
It is precisely through the faithful exercise of the priesthood, that Our Lord makes himself present in his Holy Catholic Church, particularly in his mysteries, that is, his sacraments, which He himself instituted for us and for our salvation.
So, it should not be surprising that anything that serves as a stumbling block to the priesthood, smacks of a malignant nature, because it thus attacks the means of our redemption. In the Traditional Divine Office, each night at the prayer of Compline, the Apostle St. Peter (1 Peter 5: 8-9) warns us: Fratres: Sóbrii estóte, et vigiláte: quia adversárius vester diábolus tamquam leo rúgiens círcuit, quærens quem dévoret: cui resístite fortes in fide / Brethren: Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour. Whom resist ye, strong in faith.
So yes indeed, we must be wary and vigilant. This means therefore, that we must be alert when we witness, hear, or read something that seems to somehow go against the traditional conception of the priesthood. The all too-typical liturgical upheaval that has beset the Church after the Second Vatican Council, sadly, has made a rather shocking mess of things.
Let us not be ingenuous: obviously, we are not talking here about mere changes in the rubrics, but rather profound changes in the Church’s sacred liturgy, under the clever guise of “liturgical reform,” allegedly mandated by the Council’s Constitution on Sacred Liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium (04-XII-1963), which exert a correspondingly profound change in the exercise of the Catholic priesthood, directly—and negatively—affected.
One such “bad fruit” is one of the underlying problems of our postconciliar liturgical woes: the present condition of the celibate priesthood following the expansive absorption of many sacred functions by the laity that were formerly reserved to the ordained.
There are obvious derived consequences of a “reformed” postconciliar liturgy, which usurps the sacred functions by the laity that were traditionally reserved to ordained men… and still are reserved to the ordained in the Traditional Roman Rite.
In the Traditional conception, these sacred functions are not conceived as clerical “privileges”, in detriment to the “unworthy laity,” first and foremost because the clerical state is not a privilege at all—it’s a vocation, that is, it’s a call from God, not a personal decision that originates from within—and secondly, though certainly not less important, because all clerics are just as unworthy as any laity.
Furthermore, the continual and intense disaccord between the Traditional Roman liturgy and the so-called “reformed” postconciliar liturgy, serves as conclusive proof—for those who are open-minded enough and willing to see it—that something is rather seriously amiss, for… how can there possibly be such a heated fight between, essentially, two rites of the same Church?, or if you will, in Benedict XVI’s very unconvincing expression, between two forms of the same Roman Rite? In principle, there can be no opposition, but we all know well enough, there most certainly is a staunch opposition.
But it has been made rather clear why this antagonism between the Usus Antiquior and the Novus Ordo: The late Cardinal Giovanni Benelli said it best. When asked if the traditional Mass would ever return {this was long before the indult was granted by Pope John Paul II in 1984}, he answered negatively in rather emphatic tones. The reason: ‘the traditional Mass represented an ecclesiology at variance with the one articulated at Vatican II.’
And so, there we have it! The logical conclusion is readily apparent. We are at the heart of the problem, a problem which can only be corrected from the head, from the top, from Rome. And things will not get any better—indeed, cannot— get any better, until such time Rome acknowledges publicly (not merely certain prelates privately) and at the highest level of apostolic authority, that the liturgical reform of Vatican II has not been a reform in the traditional sense of organic liturgical development, but rather it supposes a break with Catholic liturgical Tradition. Authentic liturgical reform requires organic development.
Thus, in these past fifty-odd years after Vatican II, we cannot speak about authentic “liturgical reform,” precisely because there are more than sufficient reasons to question and reject that it has been undertaken with organic development: it simply has not. And in particular, when the ordained priesthood is deprived of many of its sacred functions, supposedly in favor of more participation by the laity, we are affecting—make no mistake—not just what the priest does, but also what a priest is, and who he is. A genuine Catholic conception of the nature of the Church is not just a functional one, it’s not a mere functionality, but of being; therefore it’s an essentially sacramental comprehension.
That is to say, persons and things are, before they do, or to put in another way: before doing, we are. In the Catholic Church, one does not merely do things, one is, first and foremost. In the Catholic Church, we do not do into order to become; we are and therefore we do accordingly to who we are. Thus, the laity cannot do certain things a priest does, because one would need to be a priest. So no, more than liturgical reform, we are talking about a liturgical revolution which has brought about a change, with certain alterations in the Traditional conception of the liturgy and the priesthood, that can reasonably be deemed to be major and substantial, not secondary or minor.
Take, for instance, the Catholic ordained priesthood, and the participation in the common priesthood of the lay faithful. I purposefully have said Traditional conception—yes, with a capital “T”—because I am not referring here now to mere human traditional conventions throughout the centuries, which are legitimately subject to change, but rather the conception of the Church’s sacred liturgy, ordained priesthood, and common priesthood of the laity through Baptism, founded in Catholic Tradition.
That is, founded on divine Revelation and Apostolic Tradition, which pertains to the immutable sacred deposit of faith, and thus is of perennial value, not subject to change at the whim of the passing age. This is absolutely crucial to grasp and understand. And so, when everyone and anyone gets the chance to do everything, the immediate loss of sacred exclusiveness sets in, whereby nothing is sacred anymore, not even the Catholic priesthood.
On one occasion, a woman faithful told me how she believed that things were much better now in the Church’s liturgy (sic), whereas as before Vatican II, they had been taught never to touch the Lord with the hands nor even the sacred vessels, because they were to understand how unworthy they were to have done so… Well, said I, do you think that Vatican II—which mentions nothing regarding this—has actually made anybody more worthy now to handle the Lord with his or her hands, and the sacred vessels, than before? Really? Can a Council of the Church, by some “letter” or “spirit,” really change our sinful being, just like that!, and make us more worthy of the sacred mysteries of our Redemption?
Does that not sound a bit presumptuous and even palagian? All of us—and yes, including us priests—are still as unworthy of the Lord as ever before, for in the Traditional Roman Rite, the priest says the Confíteor before the faithful do, and later on says for himself at receiving the Lord in Communion, and before distributing Holy Communion to the faithful, each saying no less than three times: Dómine, non sum dignus, ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo, et sanábitur ánima mea / Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.
During my diocesan seminary days (1989-1996) in Oviedo, Asturias, Spain, there is something about those years that I wish to discuss: a way of thinking that was always repeated to us seminarians, a custom that I personally never understood in the way it was presented, for I sincerely believed it to be seriously inaccurate, and indeed utterly wrong, and thus not at all helpful in the pastoral care of vocations and conducive to seminary life. I’m referring specifically to what were formerly known as Minor Orders that seminarians gradually received on their way to the priesthood.
Pope Paul VI substantially changed the discipline regarding Minor Orders (Ordines Minores) with his Motu Proprio, Ministeria Quædam (15-VIII-1972). Only God knows how the Pope had envisioned this change in liturgical discipline, which he certainly undertook with legitimate apostolic authority, though I daresay—given the utter liturgical disaster this has produced afterwards—with unsound prudential judgement.
In hindsight, though, one cannot but respectfully wonder at the great imprudence of having done so, given the enormous confusion these changes have wrought, in addition to having contributed in no small way to the calamitous results in vocations to the priesthood… after Vatican II, beginning with seminary life.
In his Motu Proprio, Paul VI abolished the ancient rite of Tonsure, that was conferred to first or second-year seminarians, thereby admitting them to the clerical state—if not yet properly “clerics” until the Diaconate—and henceforth those seminarians were to wear the cassock as a visible sign of their priestly vocation.
They had been admitted by the bishop, successor of the apostles, and set apart for their sublimely sacred vocation. In its place came into being the very simple Rite of Admission, whereby the local bishop would publicly admit seminarians as candidates for Holy Orders, typically near the end of the fourth academic year, in a six-year formation plan.
Also abolished was the former Minor Order of the Subdiaconate (which in the time of Pope Innocent III (1160-1216) passed to one of the Major Orders, though not pertaining to the substance of the sacrament of Holy Orders)—perhaps the most surprising change made by Paul VI—as well as abolishing the Minor Orders of Ostiary, Exorcist, Lector, and Acolyte.
The last two—Lector and Acolyte—were retained but were no longer to be considered—nor referred to anymore—as Minor Orders, but rather Ministries. Ministries, furthermore, that were no longer exclusively reserved for seminarians on their vocational path to sacred Holy Orders of Deacon and Priest, but susceptible to also being conferred to idoneous male laity, excluding women.
To my knowledge, however, nowhere in his Motu Proprio does the Pope actually mention that these Ministries of Lector and Acolyte are to be considered and referred to as Lay Ministries, but this has been the norm, in practice, since 1972. And this is not merely seriously inaccurate; it wreaks utter havoc in the conception of the Catholic priesthood and in the heart and mind of seminarians.
And so, here is one perfect example of things that have been seriously damaging to the Catholic priesthood. Throughout all of my seminary days, it was insisted that we “students” were not properly “seminarians” until the celebration of the Rite of Admission, which in my home diocese didn’t take place until the Thursday of the third week of Eastertide—late April, early May—near the end of the fourth year. So we entered the seminary because we thought we had a calling, a vocation, to the priesthood, but we are continually told that we are not really seminarians until the end of the fourth year
How can that possibly be? Who or what were we supposed to be up until then, mere young university students, just like the rest of our lay friends in the world? Except that they studied other subjects while we studied philosophy and theology? Was that the only difference? Pretty much, it would seem. Well, except that they could meet girlfriends and a certain secular social life that we couldn’t have… or could we?
Was this a backdoor invitation to meet girls, just like the rest of any normal lay university students? After all, we were only “students”, not properly “seminarians,” right? But was this perhaps a subtle attempt to foment an implicit dislike of celibacy? Wasn’t the progressive cry for “optional celibacy” at its height after Vatican II? Ironically though, as if celibacy were not already “optional,” that is, nobody forces one to be a celibate!
Many who clamor for “optional celibacy” for priests, confuse the fact that celibacy is never imposed on anyone—thus, it’s always “optional” as it were—with the Church’s legitimate preference to choose among those men that God has given the gift of celibacy, for her priests. And of course, other details helped this state of things for us “students” of philosophy and theology: we dressed like normal young people, that is, no clerical shirt, no collar, no cassock (Heaven forbid!)—lest we think we weren’t ordinary laymen, just like our friends in the world.
At the Rite of Admission, one of seminary rectors at the time had the custom of handing out to the “students” who, after four years of ecclesiastical studies, mind you, were finally “seminarians,” a jacket pin of the Ichthys, that is, the symbol of the fish, that in the early centuries, during the Roman persecutions, was a secret identification of Christians. He said that this was now a symbol of the “catechist,” as a token for the seminarians who now were—finally!—candidates for Holy Orders. A symbol of the catechist? Really? Wow…
Why yes, of course, after having been only “students” of ecclesiastical studies for four years, and now becoming “seminarians,” supposedly for the first time in our lives, and thus now candidates for Holy Orders, we were given a token of the catechist—catechist who is normally a member of… you guessed it—the laity! We were always being reminded of our status as laymen, even now after four years of ecclesiastical studies, even now that we were properly admitted as seminarians and furthermore, candidates for Holy Orders.
Then in the Advent of the fifth year and in the Lent of the sixth year of ecclesiastical studies, we would be conferred the so-called “Lay Ministries” of Lector and Acolyte, respectively. But, how could these formerly called Minor Orders be possibly called “Lay Ministries” when even Pope Paul VI did not designate them as such in Ministeria Quædam, and when hardly any real laymen—that is, those who did not enter a seminary because they did not have a vocation to the priesthood, but rather a lay vocation in the world—have been conferred such ministries?
Since the dispositions of Paul VI in 1972, the only males who have been conferred these so-called “Lay Ministries” of Lector and Acolyte are… seminarians, after having been admitted as such in the Rite of Admission. Seminarians who by that time—finally!—were also considered formal candidates for Holy Orders!
But, alas, we were constantly reminded in the seminary, that these “Lay Ministries” were not previous steps in our way to Holy Orders—like the Minor Orders were traditionally—but rather “ministries” for “laymen.” Is that so? Really? But what in God’s name does that have to do with seminarians, since they will be ordained within two years?
Why aren’t ordinary laymen normally conferred such “Lay Ministries,” if indeed these ministries are for laymen? Why confer these “Lay Ministries” to seminarians at all, especially since these ministries were supposedly not gradual phases in our path to receiving Holy Orders? Or… was this not yet another reminder that we, now formally seminarians and candidates for the diaconate and the priesthood, were actually laymen all along? But… after ordination, too?
The sheer absurdity of this obsession for the laity, instilled in the daily lives of seminarians, has done untold harm to countless young men who entered the seminary, thinking that they had a calling to the priesthood… and being constantly hounded into believing that they were only laymen enrolled in ecclesiastical academics. That they must dress like laymen, that they should pretty much lead the life of a secular university student, insofar as possible. Of course, this was possible but obviously not always.
And then after ordination, realize that the laity would again practically invade all areas of pastoral care, from female and male lectors and acolytes—the latter, ironically, without being conferred the alleged “Lay Ministries,“ female and male Extraordinary Ministers of Communion, etc.
And to discover that a priest was no more than a “presider“ over the Eucharist, not a “celebrant“ who was unique since only he, a priest, can offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I mean really… Is it any wonder at all how this has caused an unprecedented identity crisis in the priesthood after Vatican II? Is it any wonder that this sad state of affairs has not contributed to promoting vocations to the priesthood?
And yet for many, this priestly identity crisis and shortage of priestly vocations, are actually considered “blessings,” (sic!) since it was, after all, the promotion of the laity, apparently so long overdue: it was “the hour of the laity;“ moreover, it was their finest hour. But is it really? And even more so the question deserves to be asked, since it never occurs to those who avidly follow this seriously misdirected orientation, to “promote“ certain male laity… to the priesthood.
While it is true that in the Traditional Roman Rite, seminarians were such from day one, and upon receiving the Tonsure at some time during the first or second year, began to dress the cassock, and were considered to have entered into the clerical state, from a strictly theological point of view, a baptized male is, sacramentally speaking, a laymen until he is ordained deacon, by which he properly enters the clerical state, is it not also just as true that the laity have their own particular place in the Church, vocation, even? Lay vocation that the seminarian—be that in the Traditional Roman liturgy or in the Novus Ordo liturgy—simply does not have?
Is this not even what Vatican II teaches about the laity, their singular role in the Church, distinct from the clergy, and we may add, distinct from those who in principle are destined to be members of the clergy? So, as young men who, after some time of discernment, finally decide to enter a seminary, is it not more than reasonable to presume that such men thought that they had a calling from God, a vocation—not to the lay state, but rather to the priesthood?
After all, they did enter a seminary, you know… A seminary. Yes, you know, a place where—you would think—that men are formed to be… priests. But alas, things were the way they were, when they were. So yes, hence the title of this article: seminarians and priests… to be… or not to be… That is the question. And this very serious question deserves a no-less serious answer. God forbid (!) that we “students” of ecclesiastical studies, and, after four years of preparation, “seminarians” finally! and candidates for Holy Orders, should ever have forgotten our lay state in life, and even begin to have entertained the sublime idea that we may, just may, perhaps… become and actually be priests one day, and forever, sacerdos in æternum, and even look the part!
Louie, this entire article goes to the very heart of the severe crisis in the New Order “church”. How is it that a priest, by the awesome graces of the Sacrament of Holy Orders, whose hands have been consecrated to celebrate the Sacred Mysteries and to hold the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord, does not faint in horror at Communion in the hand, “Eucharistic” ministers and the countless abuses at every N.O. “mass”. I don’t care if the priest, bishop, cardinal, or even Pope is labelled “conservative”, “orthodox”, traditional-minded etc. . If these horrible offenses to Our Lord do not disgust him, he cannot possibly be a man of faith. Why should we expect the catholics in the pew to believe in the Real Presence. That is why so few diocesan parishes have Benediction, Adoration etc. What are they adoring? —the very same Holy Eucharist that is profaned at every “mass”—not to mention the Papal “mega-Masses” which should rightly be called “Mega-Horrors”. Who can turn this around and restore what we have lost? I don’t see anyone in the New Order establishment. Sorry for this long comment–I went beyond my 2 cents!
Is our church a zombie church?
https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/a-zombie-church-at-war-with-the-true-church/
A priest in the Novus Ordo Church is usually no more than a “presider” in a community gathering commemorating the Last Supper (not the sacrifice of OLJC) – a social worker of sorts with a certain commitment to sharing the “joy” of the gospel (not of trying to bring unbelievers into the solitary Ark of Salvation)). I suppose, reading Fr Marques’ account here, and other accounts I have listened to elsewhere, that this idea of “social worker” (i.e. layman) is instilled from the early days in the seminary.
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And talk about setting up impediments for the formation of priests – what Fr Marques so correctly describes as coming straight from the Evil One! In this “Mic’d Up” episode, a former seminarian describes his experiences at an American seminary, and how he was forced to flee from it because of the homosexual atmosphere pervading the place:
http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/micd-upseminaries-and-satanists
It is sickening, disheartening, and absolutely revolting in the extreme that effeminate sodomites are still roaming through American seminaries (not sure about the situation in other countries) with the apparent unconcern of a large number of seminary rectors, bishops, etc… What kind of “priests” will these effeminate men turn out to be? A true priest should be a strong, manly figure, reading to protect the flock of Christ against the attacks of the wolves (i.e. the Adversary).
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And as Fr Marques notes, the new rite represents a break, rupture – not a process of organic development – from the Roman Rite of the Church, as described in the accompanying letter written by Cardinal Ottaviani in the “Ottaviani intervention”:
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“The accompanying critical study of the Novus Ordo Missae, the work of a group of
theologians, liturgists and pastors of souls, shows quite clearly in spite of its brevity that if we consider the innovations implied or taken for granted, which may of course be evaluated in different ways, the Novus Ordo represents, both as a whole and in its details, A STRIKING DEPARTURE FROM THE CATHOLIC THEOLOGY OF THE MASS AS IT WAS FORMULATED IN SESSION XXII OF THE COUNCIL OF TRENT. The “canons” of the rite definitively fixed at that time provided an insurmountable barrier to any heresy directed against the integrity of the Mystery.
http://archives.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/brief_critical_study_of_the_new_order_of_mass-ottaviani-intervention.pdf
What a excellent article, I have posted it to my FB and have printed it out and have forwarded the article to my,friends, relatives and associates to who I am bound to pray for.
As far as I understand, even men like Cardinal Burke hand out communion in the hand (someone correct me here if I’m wrong on that). The only NO prelate I know who has forbidden this outrageous practice is Cardinal Ranjith (God Bless him for that):
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/04/cardinal-ranjith-to-his-clergy.html
Oh Father, how sad. It’s spiritual abuse. It will be a fine and holy day when the rot of Vatican II is thrown back into the pit of hell where it came from. God bless~
Wow, what an article!!!!
If only more priests and bishops had the courage to speak in such an open and clear way! This “manifesto” should be spread far and wide!
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“If we wanted to succinctly summarize the nature of the church of the Modernists and compare it to the nature of the Catholic Church which Christ founded, we could do no better than to call it a Zombie church. For just as a zombie is a dead corpse moved by an evil, unnatural principle, so the church of the Modernists is dead to Christ in virtue of having rejected Him as God and Master, and is moved in pursuit of evil, the exaltation of man unto the contempt of God and all which is from God.”
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In a lot of ways, this declaration reminds me of Arch. Lefebvre’s ’74 manifesto:
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“We hold fast, with all our heart and with all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic Faith and of the traditions necessary to preserve this faith, to Eternal Rome, Mistress of wisdom and truth.
We refuse, on the other hand, and have always refused to follow the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies which were clearly evident in the Second Vatican Council and, after the Council, in all the reforms which issued from it.”
http://sspx.org/en/1974-declaration-of-archbishop-lefebvre
Shock and horror:
The Confessions of a Novus Ordo Seminarian in Canada:
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/confessions-of-a-novus-ordo.htm
Reflections from Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani: “We do not fear death: we fear only sin.”
– It is fashionable today[…] to judge, criticize and get rid of everything that doesn’t sound modern, novel, or subversive. […] And the poor Catholic is bewildered hearing so much bitterness from the mouths of little sacristy-communists, hearing in many ways, how everything is outmoded. […].
– […]The only effect of their social action in the end, is to break up, throw out , destroy and raze to the ground to make way – for whom? We need only look at who is holding the cord of this devastation. We say and we fear no contradiction – [it is]for the Antichrist. The Antichrist for us, is anyone who stands for a society in opposition to God or even one simply without Him. And whoever aligns with these people, or lends a hand and obeys them, makes way for the Antichrist, even if unwittingly.
– When a priest is corrupted, he becomes the worst and the speediest agent for social decay.
– Unfortunately the world has become so pagan that some of its materialistic influence has infiltrated into Catholic consciences.
– We are in times when one must resist not only adversaries but also those inside the Church who look outside [ Her] with more sympathy to the other camp and they do more damage inside, as if they had deserted Her already.
– Our thoughts are veiled in sadness when we envisage the many souls poisoned or contaminated by the oozing filth of so much obscene literature; in so many the light of faith is obscured by the murky darkness of books written by atheists. In addition, there is much vacillation also in literature, even if not obscene or blasphemous, which plants doubt, uncertainty, confusion and sets minds in new ways which are not those of the Lord.
– Nowadays almost everyone knows how to read but hardly anyone knows how to think.
– In no other time has dissoluteness and frivolousness spread so much as it has in ours.
– Modern society is afflicted by a feverish burning for renovation, which is frightening. It is infested by men who prevail over our sufferings in order to build an empire according to their own designs and the tyranny of their own vices – a den of lewdness and thievery. Never has evil taken on such widespread and apocalyptic characteristics; never have we known so much danger.
– The nuclear [bomb] creates a desert less atrocious than the prevailing doctrine of a society without God; we have a “Sahara” of the Spirit in addition to a physical “Sahara”.
– During the years of the Nazi violence, I was actually accused of this, I was loathed by everyone; I was one of “those around the Pope” (Manner um den Papst). Those enemies swept through like a monstrous diabolical infestation […]. I know well that the enemies of yesterday have been succeeded by others much more satanic.
– Among the few the Holy Father is honoring today (12th January 1953) with the noble dignity of cardinalship, there is one conspicuous absence. And this absence brings to mind the luminous figure of another Cardinal* who has for years been suffering under the chains of the anti-Christian ferocity of the Reds. […] And they are absent because sub hostili dominatione constituiti, because they are in chains by these new, but much fiercer enemies; so fierce that to hear them – they are preparing pandemonium and wherever they go, solitudinem faciunt et pacem appellant, they create a wasteland and call it “peace”! As horrendous and formidable as they are, they do not frighten us […]. These new barbarians will also pass, and perhaps the hour is at hand. […] The Church will not succumb. We do not fear death: we fear only sin.
*Cardinal József Mindszenty
[Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana | Source: Cordialiter blog. | Image: Cardinal Ottaviani celebrates Mass on December 10, 1963, in the Church of Santa Maria di Loreto, Rome – source: Biblioteche di Roma – Cinecittà Luce archives.]
Oddly enough I had a conversation yesterday after Mass yesterday on this hostility. In my parish we have the NO and for some time now have been allowed the EF. After some say six years, hostility still exist – and it is all from the ageing decaying increasingly doddery, feminised NO faction. I go to both and therefore am suspect.
The liturgical differences in the post -Pauline Mass, in it various forms, is profound, and although they don’t realise it, the NO congregation is Protestantised, hence the hostility. The priests, until recently I must add, (something going on?), have been the worst.
Thank you, Father, for this post on the Priesthood. I will look at my parish priest with new eyes when I see him next. Sometimes we forget, especially if our priest is full of fun, that we must be respectful and even when being silly and laughing with him that he is ‘set aside’ for Christ.
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What a blessing good priests are, and what a punishment bad priests are. BE before we DO – love that.
Thank you, Father. The institutionalised moral and spiritual and ecclesiastical abuse of seminarians is heartbreaking – an insidious attack on the holy priesthood, and thereby the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, so crucial in attaining grace and salvation. So clever, it must be from Lucifer himself. We need good and holy priests to help us get to Heaven! Thank you, priests and seminarians for bearing the suffering for the good of Holy Mother Church and the salvation of souls.
Novus Ordo priests know nothing but Vatican 2, that’s all they are taught (and vat 2 will one day be thrown out, so what’s the use of knowing it? Which means they know nothing worth knowing.). They are malformed. All of them.
I used to be a Protestant. I read and read and read my way into The Church. Once in to the modern Novus Ordo world, I looked around and said, “This is not what I read about. Where is what I read about?” I found it on traditional Catholicism. Finally.
When I wanted to get enrolled in the brown scapular. I had to tell my N O priest about it and provide the words for enrolment . NO priests know nothing. The holy water on NO churches is not really holy water !
The book “Goodbye Good Men”. Is s revealing look into Novus Ordo seminaries! Read it! It explains why they all are ignorant and so many homos and…
Sorry for all the typos above. It is hard to be accurate on this little phone screen. But I am not stupid or ignorant as that typo-ridden post suggests. Just bitter and disillusioned. It took a lot of disillusionment and heartache to get to this point of bitterness. Thinking I had reached “Rome Sweet Home”…and then, no! Wondering where that even exists anymore! We have one diocesan approved TLM and it is at 7:15 am or smack in the middle of the day. At only one parish …in a whole big city. The bishop is obviously trying to dissuade people from the TLM and encourage instead the Novus Ordo…and is therefore obviously evil.
Dear Katharine Elizabeth,
What a brave soul you are! I can imagine exactly how cheated you feel. Our Lord knows how you have done your bit. Welcome to the world of the remnant. Say the Rosary daily, wear your scapula and watch the live webcast of the true Mass on Sundays and Holy days here: http://sggresources.org/products/webcasting-the-traditional-liturgy-to-the-world
More you cannot do. God bless you.
Dear Father Campo,
I started my comment with “Louie” (out of habit, I guess!). My thanks go to you for this very honest and heartfelt revelation.
God bless you, Father!
Katherine Elisabeth, I know of the parish in the diocese you refer to and I agree about the Mass times! Nuts! And that bishop is considered ‘conservative’ and out-spoken too. Hang in there. The Holy Catholic Church IS here and will be found by those who search. “Seek and ye shall find” said Our Blessed Lord, and what was true then is true now. God bless you that you searched and He provided.
One more little comment on Mass times: in many parishes here the NO is at 8, or 8:30 am – way after the time most are at work or at school. So no men, just old women – who ‘run’ the parish and all that happens in it. When I suggested years ago to the pastor that he move Mass time so that working people could attend in the week he told me ‘the ladies’ would not like it. My parish daily Mass is at 7:30 am – as well late for most workers, but as many travel a fair distance it’s the best we can do for now. But, with the grace of God, in the school year we have whole families, children all in uniform, at that 7:30 am Mass.
Dear Katherine Elisabeth, your fellow brothers and sisters of the remnant share in that suffering. Let us daily offer it to Our Lord in consolation and reparation for all the contempt and treachery of a wicked people. God bless and preserve you in grace. Your sister in Christ, Lynda
Thank you all of you who responded above. I am sorry for the rant. It is so nice to know, through this blog of Louie’s, that I am not alone. It is kind of like having trad pen-pals. I am proud to be a trad, a “Grunerite”, a Fatimist, etc. lol. Please pray for me and I will pray for all of you. : ) (And pray for Father Gruner. It always made me a little bit proud to be a Canadian to know that he was a fellow Canadian. What a national treasure! )
1) May God arise and let His enemies be scattered and let those who hate Him flee before His Face!
2) May the thrice Holy Name of God overthrow all their plans!
3) May the Holy Name of the Living God split them up by disagreements!
4) May the terrible Name of the God of Eternity stamp out all their godlessness!
5) Lord, I do not desire the death of the sinner, but that he be converted and live. “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.”
The opening prayers from the Chaplet of Reparation to the Holy Face of Jesus, very appropriate for these times. http://www.holyfacedevotion.com/extra_prayers.htm